However it was produced, and opera experts would know far better than I, Ramey's combination of pleasing tone and great power are impressive here. However, the more I listen to Tennessee Ernie Ford on his more serious stuff and compare him with other bass-baritones classical and popular, the more I'm inclined to think that he had the sweetest tone of any of them.
@larrydonguy That makes a great deal of sense. So often in early study I was told to not let my acting interfere with my technique. But in improv clsses or lessons different suggested emotions changed my tone and still conveyed the message. Lots to think about. Thanksyou!!!!!!
i could listen to samuel ramey Night and Day 24/7. this is a great performance great voice and orchestration. samuel makes fred sound like dead. ROGHARM are there more great popular performed by mr. ramey on youtube?
If you guys want a very small tidbit of what needs to be done, put 'bel canto' into the search bar and pick the first one. It's got Pavarotti, Marilyn Horne, and Joan Sutherland, possibly the greatest singers of their respective voice types in history save perhaps Sutherland because there were so many great sopranos with better diction than she. But anyway yeah look at that it's very good and may give you an idea.
Well Mr. Ramey does push a bit but his technique is unshakeable. It's sad opera and musical theater singers can't make more cross over albums. I make it a point to mix anyway. I had to "suspend" my belief, but he's still dreamy. :P
I think it in the vibrato, but better ears might know better. Pop and jazz music is about phrasing, and with the miking you don't need projection. Try Eileen Farrell "I've Got Right To Sing The Blues" for the best crossover I've heard.
@nmcaia And btw opera uses only natural voice just with different placement of sound. In opera the throat isn't used AT ALL. Mind you some singers do which is incorrect but the throat is never used. That's why it sounds unnatural to you. However if you hear Ramey talk, that really is his voice. For me, my singing voice doesn't differ much from my speaking voice. Only people who darken their sound with their tongue or throat are artificial and are only imitating.
@operamudflower Perhaps part of the reason is that many of them , probably most, don't sing popular songs particularly well. Ramey is fine here but typically the lyric in great pop songs; the cleverness, charm, pathos and/or irony is buried in the singer's technique.
@larrydonguy i have to agree with you. Ramey is usually quite good at crossover, but most opera singers overpower the song with their big operatic voices.
@operamudflower I WISH I HAD SAM'S GREAT AND COULD ""PUSH"". I wish push like you claim he does!!!!! you are jealous. i am jealous but i praise and wish i had his great voice. ROGHARM
Boy, I am no fan of opera singers doing pop music- they don't use any kind of natural voice. Opera survives because of its artificiality and our willing suspension of disbelief.
I love Sam- I ve seen him in Don Giovanni and Giulio Cesare, but sheesh, in the "Gay Divorcee"? (Which is not "Gay Divorce" as the title says[can't figure out how to do accent egule]).
Saying all that, Eileen Farrell did a WONDERFUL pop album, and I understand that Joyce diDonato is worth hearing in that genre.
Oh! You are soooo wrong. Opera it the most easy way to sing; pop (and) music demands voice strenghting. Opera survives because there are still people with good taste. And the love for opera seems to be reborning in younger people.
But I have no time to explain that to you. If someone has, please do explain him why he is totally wrong.
Show me a 18-year-old opera singer, and I might agree. It takes so much study to learn even the notes and language, much less the technique to sing on stage.
Pop singers have microphones and amps and limited range. They don't need technique.
@LordMgls I myself an opera singer. Opera is the most difficult type of singing there is. There are so many subtle nuances which is why it takes 12 years of training before you get any type of job in opera. For popular music any retard can pick up a guitar, play a few chords, and sing and get a record deal. Your voice completely bypasses the throat which is called closed-throat singing. That way you never tire. The sound placement is in the roof of the mouth. There's a lot.
@LordMgls And there's a whole lot more than what i just stated here. The mere fact that it takes 10-12 years of training before you get a job should be evidence enough. On top of that there's no microphone and you have to sing for sometimes 4 hours or maybe more extremely loud so the audience can hear you. On top of that you need to learn language and diction, acting, and proper breath support. There's A LOT of training involved. It is the most difficult type of singing there is.
@xLaughingManX That's because many people think to have beautiful operatic voices and engage in a 10 or 12-year study that has almost no effect at all in those hopeless voices... I've recently aknowledged an example amongst those here at YT. Poor guy -- he really thinks to be very good, but he is just... hopeless. Study doesn't bring up miracles.
Really good opera singers (real talents) didn't study as much as that; some only have to because of the CV. Take Caruso as an example! :-) Cheers,B
@LordMgls Nope they do have to study that much. It's a fact. And they would stop studying if they sucked and had no future in it because the teachers would tell them. Caruso isn't a good example. Titta Ruffo is considered by many to be the greatest opera singer ever but forced his voice and cut his career short. Bad technique equals short career. Pavarotti on the other hand, had PERFECT technique. Perfect. Because of years of study. You gotta remember even at 50 you're still a student.
@LordMgls Pavarotti told a story that when he was 12, Gigli came to Modena for a performance. Gigli vocalized for 40 minutes, then the same night sang Lucia then gave a full concert. He was 50 at the time. Pavarotti met him and said he wanted to be a tenor too. Then he asked "How long did you study?". Gigli replied "I just finished." Opera is about perfection. Getting the sound perfect as well as longevity. It's a long, arduous process that takes many years. But it's worth it lol.
@xLaughingManX Correction 57 years old sorry. But yeah it takes time and hard work to perfect everything in the voice. You will not get hired with a forced voice that sounds even a tiny tiny bit tense. Except at some low rate opera house. Perfect example is the Miami Lyric Opera. Horrible singers. To untrained ears sounds good but their careers won't go anywhere or last very long. So yeah i just wanted to let you know from someone who actually does this stuff lol.
@LordMgls Btw i hope that none of this is insulting in any way because that's not how i mean it at all. Also who's the example here on youtube? I'd like very much to see him lol. MY examples are Mark Vincent and just put Miami Lyric opera and click the Samuel one and Diego Beber singing La Calunnia. The worst i've ever heard in my life.
I actually like Sam's crossover CDs. The undisputed champion of the opera crossover album is that one you mentioned by Eileen Farrell. She's brilliant, and could sing anything! And sing anything in the right style! Look at the film Interrupted Melody. She dubbed the voice for Eleanor Parker. Farrell sang an incredible variety of music in that film.
However it was produced, and opera experts would know far better than I, Ramey's combination of pleasing tone and great power are impressive here. However, the more I listen to Tennessee Ernie Ford on his more serious stuff and compare him with other bass-baritones classical and popular, the more I'm inclined to think that he had the sweetest tone of any of them.
larrydonguy 1 month ago
Waoooouh <3
chocobharata 3 months ago
Why does he have a foreign accent? :D
agreatgeat 7 months ago
@agreatgeat He doesn't. Perhaps what you're hearing is his careful and excellent diction.
pucciniverdi777 5 months ago
Listen to Cesare Siepi's recording of this great Porter song!
legatofancier 9 months ago
Wow, it cut off before he finished. Aargghh! He's so incredibly fine. Such control. Wonderful!
MonsterBobBurns 1 year ago
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andyrawn 1 year ago
@larrydonguy That makes a great deal of sense. So often in early study I was told to not let my acting interfere with my technique. But in improv clsses or lessons different suggested emotions changed my tone and still conveyed the message. Lots to think about. Thanksyou!!!!!!
operamudflower 1 year ago
i could listen to samuel ramey Night and Day 24/7. this is a great performance great voice and orchestration. samuel makes fred sound like dead. ROGHARM are there more great popular performed by mr. ramey on youtube?
rogharm 1 year ago
wow
airbag97 1 year ago
Any way I can get a dvd of this? I know that they did a lot of music in this, including the Rain Quartet from Regina. I know of a CD recording.
pannicatack 1 year ago
If you guys want a very small tidbit of what needs to be done, put 'bel canto' into the search bar and pick the first one. It's got Pavarotti, Marilyn Horne, and Joan Sutherland, possibly the greatest singers of their respective voice types in history save perhaps Sutherland because there were so many great sopranos with better diction than she. But anyway yeah look at that it's very good and may give you an idea.
xLaughingManX 1 year ago
amazing !
Beautiful voice.
MARISOLDELMONACO 2 years ago 4
@MARISOLDELMONACO Agreed! Positively beautiful voice!
arpeggio1358 1 year ago
This wonderful singing
francotenor 2 years ago
Ahhh, it's cut off! I was there and remember this so thank you.
vigwig 2 years ago
Well Mr. Ramey does push a bit but his technique is unshakeable. It's sad opera and musical theater singers can't make more cross over albums. I make it a point to mix anyway. I had to "suspend" my belief, but he's still dreamy. :P
operamudflower 2 years ago 5
I think it in the vibrato, but better ears might know better. Pop and jazz music is about phrasing, and with the miking you don't need projection. Try Eileen Farrell "I've Got Right To Sing The Blues" for the best crossover I've heard.
nmcaia 2 years ago
@nmcaia And btw opera uses only natural voice just with different placement of sound. In opera the throat isn't used AT ALL. Mind you some singers do which is incorrect but the throat is never used. That's why it sounds unnatural to you. However if you hear Ramey talk, that really is his voice. For me, my singing voice doesn't differ much from my speaking voice. Only people who darken their sound with their tongue or throat are artificial and are only imitating.
xLaughingManX 1 year ago
@operamudflower Perhaps part of the reason is that many of them , probably most, don't sing popular songs particularly well. Ramey is fine here but typically the lyric in great pop songs; the cleverness, charm, pathos and/or irony is buried in the singer's technique.
larrydonguy 1 year ago
@larrydonguy i have to agree with you. Ramey is usually quite good at crossover, but most opera singers overpower the song with their big operatic voices.
pucciniverdi777 5 months ago
@operamudflower I WISH I HAD SAM'S GREAT AND COULD ""PUSH"". I wish push like you claim he does!!!!! you are jealous. i am jealous but i praise and wish i had his great voice. ROGHARM
rogharm 1 year ago
Boy, I am no fan of opera singers doing pop music- they don't use any kind of natural voice. Opera survives because of its artificiality and our willing suspension of disbelief.
I love Sam- I ve seen him in Don Giovanni and Giulio Cesare, but sheesh, in the "Gay Divorcee"? (Which is not "Gay Divorce" as the title says[can't figure out how to do accent egule]).
Saying all that, Eileen Farrell did a WONDERFUL pop album, and I understand that Joyce diDonato is worth hearing in that genre.
nmcaia 2 years ago
Oh! You are soooo wrong. Opera it the most easy way to sing; pop (and) music demands voice strenghting. Opera survives because there are still people with good taste. And the love for opera seems to be reborning in younger people.
But I have no time to explain that to you. If someone has, please do explain him why he is totally wrong.
LordMgls 2 years ago
Show me a 18-year-old opera singer, and I might agree. It takes so much study to learn even the notes and language, much less the technique to sing on stage.
Pop singers have microphones and amps and limited range. They don't need technique.
nmcaia 2 years ago
Oh, please... It wasn't I marking you minus thumb... That's why I left comment. I really have no time to explain you so many things.
I see what you mean in 2nd comment, but simple things aren't necessarily as beautiful as complete ones........
LordMgls 2 years ago
@LordMgls I myself an opera singer. Opera is the most difficult type of singing there is. There are so many subtle nuances which is why it takes 12 years of training before you get any type of job in opera. For popular music any retard can pick up a guitar, play a few chords, and sing and get a record deal. Your voice completely bypasses the throat which is called closed-throat singing. That way you never tire. The sound placement is in the roof of the mouth. There's a lot.
xLaughingManX 1 year ago
@LordMgls And there's a whole lot more than what i just stated here. The mere fact that it takes 10-12 years of training before you get a job should be evidence enough. On top of that there's no microphone and you have to sing for sometimes 4 hours or maybe more extremely loud so the audience can hear you. On top of that you need to learn language and diction, acting, and proper breath support. There's A LOT of training involved. It is the most difficult type of singing there is.
xLaughingManX 1 year ago
@xLaughingManX That's because many people think to have beautiful operatic voices and engage in a 10 or 12-year study that has almost no effect at all in those hopeless voices... I've recently aknowledged an example amongst those here at YT. Poor guy -- he really thinks to be very good, but he is just... hopeless. Study doesn't bring up miracles.
Really good opera singers (real talents) didn't study as much as that; some only have to because of the CV. Take Caruso as an example! :-) Cheers,B
LordMgls 1 year ago
@LordMgls Nope they do have to study that much. It's a fact. And they would stop studying if they sucked and had no future in it because the teachers would tell them. Caruso isn't a good example. Titta Ruffo is considered by many to be the greatest opera singer ever but forced his voice and cut his career short. Bad technique equals short career. Pavarotti on the other hand, had PERFECT technique. Perfect. Because of years of study. You gotta remember even at 50 you're still a student.
xLaughingManX 1 year ago 2
@LordMgls Pavarotti told a story that when he was 12, Gigli came to Modena for a performance. Gigli vocalized for 40 minutes, then the same night sang Lucia then gave a full concert. He was 50 at the time. Pavarotti met him and said he wanted to be a tenor too. Then he asked "How long did you study?". Gigli replied "I just finished." Opera is about perfection. Getting the sound perfect as well as longevity. It's a long, arduous process that takes many years. But it's worth it lol.
xLaughingManX 1 year ago
@xLaughingManX Correction 57 years old sorry. But yeah it takes time and hard work to perfect everything in the voice. You will not get hired with a forced voice that sounds even a tiny tiny bit tense. Except at some low rate opera house. Perfect example is the Miami Lyric Opera. Horrible singers. To untrained ears sounds good but their careers won't go anywhere or last very long. So yeah i just wanted to let you know from someone who actually does this stuff lol.
xLaughingManX 1 year ago
@LordMgls Btw i hope that none of this is insulting in any way because that's not how i mean it at all. Also who's the example here on youtube? I'd like very much to see him lol. MY examples are Mark Vincent and just put Miami Lyric opera and click the Samuel one and Diego Beber singing La Calunnia. The worst i've ever heard in my life.
xLaughingManX 1 year ago
I actually like Sam's crossover CDs. The undisputed champion of the opera crossover album is that one you mentioned by Eileen Farrell. She's brilliant, and could sing anything! And sing anything in the right style! Look at the film Interrupted Melody. She dubbed the voice for Eleanor Parker. Farrell sang an incredible variety of music in that film.
redhead529 2 years ago
@nmcaia, the name of the original Broadway show WAS the Gay Divorce. The film version changed it to Gay Divorcee.
redhead529 1 year ago