I like the method. I gave it a try this spring and put it to the test on blues and stripers this summer, it performed flawlessly. The only thing I did differently was use a flexible fletching glue from my archery gear, which is much nicer than superglue going through the guides. Sure it takes 5 minutes...once. It will definitely save time in the long run.
As to the comment about we in the U.S. being behind the times. It was a good natured jab, not an insult. Smile and get over it.
@kyle250ify Louie uses regular fly tying thread-- use a strong thread for salwater/big fish. This technique allows for very easy leader changes without trimming the end off the fly line. Best of luck with flyfishing-- it's a lot of fun!!
5 minutes to whip and glue this garbage knot or use a 10 second nail knot. Thats 4 minutes and 50 seconds longer of actual fishing. I've been fishing stripers for 15 years and have yet for a nail knot to fail before the leader so don't say they fail for larger fish. I guess America is primitive because what we use actually works so why change.
Saltwater nail knots are smaller and go through the guides much easier, unless you use over 30lb. test tippet, which nobody does or should do, they will NOT faail. Loop your backing to your fly lines with a Bimini twist and to your arbor. This guy reels backwards to put on his line..... That cheap plastic reel I would not use for bones either.....
Well I find it better to put a braided loop, and now most of fly line comes with integrated loop a the end of them we're not that late in fly fishing sir
@StcroixNick Braided loops work well for a couple seasons but are definitely prone to slipping off, losing your leader, fly, and fish-- it's happened to me twice. The loops Louie makes last for several seasons and it's very easy to see if they need to be replaced...
@KettlebottomCrew yeah maybe, as for myself I use fly lien with integrated loops in them, and I use the albright knot for the backing to the fly line, and it nerver broke during fishing. . well everyone have his habitudes and tricks, thanks for sharing guys
"Of course, America is a little bit behind the rest of the world"......what a retard!
Nice technique and finish, I guess. It only takes about three minutes to do it......vs. the nail knot, which is time tested and still holds true....and takes about 15 seconds to tie.
@angiediazo For Bluegills, small Trout and Largemouth Bass, the Nail Knot is OK. Because Louie targets large Hawaii Bonefish and HUGE New Zealand trout (often over 10 pounds and up to 20 pounds) and we target large fish such as Striped Bass, Bluefish, and Tuna, we need a stronger connection that will not foul in the top guide during a strong run. The loop connection that Louie uses is far superior to the Nail KNot for these species...
@maccaetube I would personally think that mono may slip, especially if applied to a slippery line. Thread would also be prone to slipping, which is why Louie roughs up the outer coating prior to starting. Is the outer coating on the intermediate (intermediate sinking line I assume??) able to be roughed up? Louie said Acetone (or nail polish remover) is another way to soften the outer coating on fly lines if scraping doesn't work right.
@CymrilBlade Yes, it's regular fly tying thread. There are many choices for diameter/strength, however, and I think Louie uses a heavy thread meant for tying saltwater flies.
@dandotreillydot42058 Perfection Loops were mentioned by others in their comments. The species we target locally (bonito, mahi, small Tunas, and large Stripers) and the Bonefish Louie targets make such fast, powerful runs that Perfection loops have the potential to foul in the guides and could result in lost fish. For freshwater or smaller fish, they work great, but for fast, powerful fish, whipped loops like Louie's are the way to go...
@KettlebottomCrew i agree.. i use perfection on on blue gill and bass ... ill try this set up when i go stiper ffishing this spring because i have had stripers and blue fish actually break at the knot
@sjs28075 Honestly, I'm not sure where Louie got that tool but it's essentially a bent piece of wire. All it does is pull the tag end through several wraps of thread, securing it.
@physchohead24 It does weight down the tip very slightly but not enough to make it sink. The floating quality of the line holds up the weight of the thread. Just don't use too much thread and glue...
@Patriotalliance None the less, they are still bulkier and are not suitable for my fly line to backing connection due to the species that I target. When a 10 to 50 lb Tuna or 30 to 50 lb Striped Bass rips the line through the guides, the last thing I need is for anything to catch in the guides. It's very, very cheap and easy to do Louie's method if you tie your own flies-- you already own all necessary materials.
@Kingtommytom Thanks for the info! I still prefer Louie's method, especially for the backing to fly line connection, because the Perfection loop is more bulky. We typically fish for very fast-running, strong fish (Tuna, Bonefish, Striped Bass, etc)and anything that could potentially catch in the guides on the initial run is out. The flyline to leader connection would be OK, though...
Just use a perfection loop. Much easier, much faster and much cheaper! you then use a loop-to-loop to tie the two together. It also works from leader-to-tippet...
The piano wire tool is just a loop-- it was used to make the whip knot finish. (A loop of monofilament will also work.) Once you're ready to finish the loop, place the wire or mono loop alongside the wraps, take 5 or 10 more wraps, place the tag end through the loop, and pull the tag through the wraps, locking it into a whip knot finish...
No problem! As long as you've got a few fly tying tools, this is the best way I've ever seen to attach both the fly line to backing and the fly line to leader. I've never trusted the slide-on loop connectors or nail knots. One other interesting thing about Louie-- he doesn't like tapered leaders except for very small dry flies. He uses straight sections of Florocarbon, available in large spools-- very cheap compared to tapered leaders and small spools of tippet!
Louie is using one of the threads he uses for tying flies. (I think they are usually made of Nylon.) He used a fairly thick-gauge thread. The super glue helps to reinforce the thread and protect it from unraveling...
I'm not sure exactly how long the fly line is-- it is a 5 weight floating line I got from Cabela's. It is a standard, inexpensive fly line... Thanks for watching and hope you found the video useful!
Hi. I was impressed with Louie's method and asked if I could film it while on a recent fishing trip in the deserts of Nevada. (There actually IS water in Nevada-- and really big trout, too!! I was skeptical going out there but WOW!) Thanks for watching and keep an eye out for other tips I picked up from Louie-- I hope to edit them together soon. He is an awesome fly fisherman and Bonefish guide out of Hawaii. Check him out!
Louie is a great guy, and the best fly fisherman I know. He is also fun to spend time with on a stream. Take a look at his web sigt by searchin Louie the Fisn
LOVE this video !!! seen it a way back,was gonna try this out, but didn't ,sooo glad I found it again :)
Thanks for the great video !!
STMN69 1 week ago
@STMN69 No problem, glad we could help!
KettlebottomCrew 1 week ago
thanks for the video helped me out alot.
KiraleeStrange 2 weeks ago
What is the name of the little metal device with the thread spool in the middle?
Onlyme0422 1 month ago
@Onlyme0422 That is called a thread bobbin, available at any store that sells fly tying tools...
KettlebottomCrew 1 week ago
Americans behind the times give me a break! I've heard it all now.
rtroutbumm 3 months ago
I like the method. I gave it a try this spring and put it to the test on blues and stripers this summer, it performed flawlessly. The only thing I did differently was use a flexible fletching glue from my archery gear, which is much nicer than superglue going through the guides. Sure it takes 5 minutes...once. It will definitely save time in the long run.
As to the comment about we in the U.S. being behind the times. It was a good natured jab, not an insult. Smile and get over it.
The2ndToLastViking 5 months ago
What can you use to wrap the loop? I am new to fly fishing and liking this idea. Thanks!
kyle250ify 5 months ago
@kyle250ify Louie uses regular fly tying thread-- use a strong thread for salwater/big fish. This technique allows for very easy leader changes without trimming the end off the fly line. Best of luck with flyfishing-- it's a lot of fun!!
KettlebottomCrew 5 months ago
5 minutes to whip and glue this garbage knot or use a 10 second nail knot. Thats 4 minutes and 50 seconds longer of actual fishing. I've been fishing stripers for 15 years and have yet for a nail knot to fail before the leader so don't say they fail for larger fish. I guess America is primitive because what we use actually works so why change.
sewashoe 6 months ago
Saltwater nail knots are smaller and go through the guides much easier, unless you use over 30lb. test tippet, which nobody does or should do, they will NOT faail. Loop your backing to your fly lines with a Bimini twist and to your arbor. This guy reels backwards to put on his line..... That cheap plastic reel I would not use for bones either.....
YTSIRHC58 7 months ago
Well I find it better to put a braided loop, and now most of fly line comes with integrated loop a the end of them we're not that late in fly fishing sir
StcroixNick 8 months ago
@StcroixNick Braided loops work well for a couple seasons but are definitely prone to slipping off, losing your leader, fly, and fish-- it's happened to me twice. The loops Louie makes last for several seasons and it's very easy to see if they need to be replaced...
KettlebottomCrew 8 months ago
@KettlebottomCrew yeah maybe, as for myself I use fly lien with integrated loops in them, and I use the albright knot for the backing to the fly line, and it nerver broke during fishing. . well everyone have his habitudes and tricks, thanks for sharing guys
StcroixNick 8 months ago
it dont work my freind beien trying it out and the tip always sinks and pulls the dry fly under.
urbanflyman36 8 months ago
"Of course, America is a little bit behind the rest of the world"......what a retard!
Nice technique and finish, I guess. It only takes about three minutes to do it......vs. the nail knot, which is time tested and still holds true....and takes about 15 seconds to tie.
angiediazo 10 months ago
@angiediazo For Bluegills, small Trout and Largemouth Bass, the Nail Knot is OK. Because Louie targets large Hawaii Bonefish and HUGE New Zealand trout (often over 10 pounds and up to 20 pounds) and we target large fish such as Striped Bass, Bluefish, and Tuna, we need a stronger connection that will not foul in the top guide during a strong run. The loop connection that Louie uses is far superior to the Nail KNot for these species...
Thanks for watching!!
KettlebottomCrew 10 months ago
Great video thanks. Would this work on a clear intermediate, but using a thin/low lb mono?
maccaetube 11 months ago
@maccaetube I would personally think that mono may slip, especially if applied to a slippery line. Thread would also be prone to slipping, which is why Louie roughs up the outer coating prior to starting. Is the outer coating on the intermediate (intermediate sinking line I assume??) able to be roughed up? Louie said Acetone (or nail polish remover) is another way to soften the outer coating on fly lines if scraping doesn't work right.
KettlebottomCrew 11 months ago
Is that regular fly tying thread? or do you use something else?
CymrilBlade 1 year ago
@CymrilBlade Yes, it's regular fly tying thread. There are many choices for diameter/strength, however, and I think Louie uses a heavy thread meant for tying saltwater flies.
KettlebottomCrew 1 year ago
or you could use a perfection loop like i do
dandotreillydot42058 1 year ago
@dandotreillydot42058 Perfection Loops were mentioned by others in their comments. The species we target locally (bonito, mahi, small Tunas, and large Stripers) and the Bonefish Louie targets make such fast, powerful runs that Perfection loops have the potential to foul in the guides and could result in lost fish. For freshwater or smaller fish, they work great, but for fast, powerful fish, whipped loops like Louie's are the way to go...
KettlebottomCrew 1 year ago
@KettlebottomCrew i agree.. i use perfection on on blue gill and bass ... ill try this set up when i go stiper ffishing this spring because i have had stripers and blue fish actually break at the knot
dandotreillydot42058 1 year ago
This is a absolute perfect description of making a loop for line-leader-connection!!
Thank you for this post!!!!
TheGertL 1 year ago
@TheGertL No problem! Glad you liked our video!
KettlebottomCrew 1 year ago
Where do you find a whipping tool like the one in the video? Looks like a bobbin threader.
sjs28075 1 year ago
@sjs28075 Honestly, I'm not sure where Louie got that tool but it's essentially a bent piece of wire. All it does is pull the tag end through several wraps of thread, securing it.
KettlebottomCrew 1 year ago
@KettlebottomCrew Thanks I asked him, it's a bobbin threader
sjs28075 1 year ago
Wont that make the fly line weighted at the tip and cause it to sink?
physchohead24 1 year ago
@physchohead24 It does weight down the tip very slightly but not enough to make it sink. The floating quality of the line holds up the weight of the thread. Just don't use too much thread and glue...
KettlebottomCrew 1 year ago
Nice to see hes creative...donk
rsxek 1 year ago
nice dog ! Great fishing mate !!!! I bet he jumps up when a fish is on !
prosandbagger 1 year ago
Perfection loops work great without piano wire, superglue and a bobbin...
Patriotalliance 1 year ago
@Patriotalliance None the less, they are still bulkier and are not suitable for my fly line to backing connection due to the species that I target. When a 10 to 50 lb Tuna or 30 to 50 lb Striped Bass rips the line through the guides, the last thing I need is for anything to catch in the guides. It's very, very cheap and easy to do Louie's method if you tie your own flies-- you already own all necessary materials.
KettlebottomCrew 1 year ago
Just type in "Fly Fishing Lessons Part 13" into Youtube... very easy and works really well. You don't need anything except scissors or sharp teeth!
Kingtommytom 1 year ago
@Kingtommytom Thanks for the info! I still prefer Louie's method, especially for the backing to fly line connection, because the Perfection loop is more bulky. We typically fish for very fast-running, strong fish (Tuna, Bonefish, Striped Bass, etc)and anything that could potentially catch in the guides on the initial run is out. The flyline to leader connection would be OK, though...
KettlebottomCrew 1 year ago
Just use a perfection loop. Much easier, much faster and much cheaper! you then use a loop-to-loop to tie the two together. It also works from leader-to-tippet...
Kingtommytom 1 year ago
@Kingtommytom Do you have a video I could see? I've never seen how to do a perfection loop...
KettlebottomCrew 1 year ago
HAHA! You don't need the "expensive" stuff to have fun fishing! That's for sure!
KettlebottomCrew 2 years ago
Many thanks. In a hurry to try it.
I couldn't quite see the video as to how the piano wire was used in finishing the loop.
Ever tried tyeing a nail knot ass deep in the river on a windy day??
GrampsNL 2 years ago
Yup, been there done that...
KettlebottomCrew 2 years ago
The piano wire tool is just a loop-- it was used to make the whip knot finish. (A loop of monofilament will also work.) Once you're ready to finish the loop, place the wire or mono loop alongside the wraps, take 5 or 10 more wraps, place the tag end through the loop, and pull the tag through the wraps, locking it into a whip knot finish...
KettlebottomCrew 2 years ago
you on youtube.thanks for tell us how to do this.
rollercoasterjocky 2 years ago
This is definitely the best way I've seen to attach the fly line to the backing and the leader. Glad you found it useful!
KettlebottomCrew 2 years ago
Nice. Thanks!
LARiverBoy 2 years ago
No problem! Hope this video helps.
KettlebottomCrew 2 years ago
so easy ,well done and thanks never trusted my fly line to backing line knot,
dougiehead 2 years ago
No problem! As long as you've got a few fly tying tools, this is the best way I've ever seen to attach both the fly line to backing and the fly line to leader. I've never trusted the slide-on loop connectors or nail knots. One other interesting thing about Louie-- he doesn't like tapered leaders except for very small dry flies. He uses straight sections of Florocarbon, available in large spools-- very cheap compared to tapered leaders and small spools of tippet!
KettlebottomCrew 2 years ago
tied my line on to backing today with this method,well impressed,very strong and looks good too,thanks ever so much.
dougiehead 2 years ago
No problem! Good luck!
KettlebottomCrew 2 years ago
Okay thanks
chinglengvang 2 years ago
what kind of thread or mono are you using to whip the fly line?
FlyaddictVideos 2 years ago
Louie is using one of the threads he uses for tying flies. (I think they are usually made of Nylon.) He used a fairly thick-gauge thread. The super glue helps to reinforce the thread and protect it from unraveling...
KettlebottomCrew 2 years ago
how many yards is your fly line.???
NOT BACKING
chinglengvang 2 years ago
I'm not sure exactly how long the fly line is-- it is a 5 weight floating line I got from Cabela's. It is a standard, inexpensive fly line... Thanks for watching and hope you found the video useful!
KettlebottomCrew 2 years ago
So simple & takes seconds to do.
RototunaBendy 2 years ago
he is one amaizing teacher that is for sure.
gobulty 2 years ago
Great video. Thanks for sharing this with us.
timbotide 2 years ago
Hi. I was impressed with Louie's method and asked if I could film it while on a recent fishing trip in the deserts of Nevada. (There actually IS water in Nevada-- and really big trout, too!! I was skeptical going out there but WOW!) Thanks for watching and keep an eye out for other tips I picked up from Louie-- I hope to edit them together soon. He is an awesome fly fisherman and Bonefish guide out of Hawaii. Check him out!
KettlebottomCrew 2 years ago
Louie is a great guy, and the best fly fisherman I know. He is also fun to spend time with on a stream. Take a look at his web sigt by searchin Louie the Fisn
tcc19881988 2 years ago
awesome video mate.
TheDougalm 2 years ago
just wat i was lookin 4 thx
jbikedh 2 years ago
very informative!!
psychodelicdragon 2 years ago