I like the second one, passes the half guard too. The first one seems risky, but maybe that's why it works, nobody thinks an opponent would attempt a throw like that in a grappling situation.
@largefirmmember the whole point i guess behind the video is judo would beat mma in a fight therefore i would not say hes a moron more than simplifying the title that is why youtube has a description to post what is really the detailed subject basically all this guy was trying to prove was that this is a common mma move to clinch i guess therefore this move counters it so its kind of like versus get it KINDA?
There is nothing in the vid that shows that judo would beat MMA in a fight. I don't think the video was trying to demonstrate that at all.
As I said before, when you look at the way "vs" is used here, it look as if the uploaded thought that "vs" means to "add" or "pair" something together which is NOT what it means.
Anyway, I don't want to complain or argue about it too much. It's just that incorrectly named tittles on YT vids are abit annoying that's all.
@largefirmmember oh sorry i wasnt aggressively starting a argument here i was just showing what he could have been saying sorry but yes i get what your saying and it makes sense.
@largefirmmember Actually if he added one more word at the end of this, it would be correct. Versus, means it rival or go against. So in all actuality, this is "Judo vs MMA Techniques or Situations". Just because there is no fight, doesn't mean it is not "Versus".
"So in all actuality, this isJudo vs MMA Techniques or Situations"
Well your definition of VS is correct. However Judo 'vs' MMA techniques/situations isn't entirely correct imo. For example: Is this guy using Judo "against" MMA techniques or situations? No. he's not. He's actually going along WITH MMA by showing how you can incorporating Judo techs into mma techs and situations.
Anyway, it's been 2 months since I posted that (seemed like longer).
At the time, I just got abit pissed off when people would upload videos with the wrong description either intentionally (e.g to trick people or get more views) or because of misinformation/ignorance.
It just feels like it annoys/waste time of people watching it who were expecting what's in the description.
I don't really care anymore whether "vs" is used correctly or not (personally I still think not).
@largefirmmember Good point, but he was showing what he would do in the clinch. Which does happen in street fights and MMA. Not saying you're wrong. Just trying to find some even ground. It would be more helpful to see this technique practiced at full pace, but still informative to escape a clinch.
I dont know any Judo guy worth his salt that would go that deep into a shoulder throw,I hate the whole this style is supirior to that style BS find something you like and be the best you can be at it and quit worrying what someone else is doing.
@WhiteBeltAcademy I dont find purposely going to ground and defending yourself from your back a practical situation, id prefer to know what to do on the ground as a last resort while also being well trained in staying on my feet and defending myself from there - makes it safer, faster and much easier to get away when you get the chance... unless of course you are in a guaranteed single attacker or refereed situation, purposely going to ground when you don't have to is stupid and dangerous.
I train Judo non-competitvely and Sakura Ryu Ju Jitsu and have so for the past 10 years.. i don't need to try BJJ. and no one style dominates another style, especially when your talking about BJJ, Judo and Ju Jitsu.
@danjack17 Thats my point, you don't train BJJ and you are making a claim that BJJ is just rolling on the ground. That is like saying judo is just throwing. I train BJJ/ Sport Judo and can tell you that it is more than that. To call it impractical is ridiculous. Try it first then establish an opinion.
@WhiteBeltAcademy BJJ is also trained at the academy i train at, so i've seen the stand up they teach and other stuff - sometimes we even train with the bjj guys when we do Newaza randori. I find BJJ as a real world defensive art ridiculous and dangerous, that is my opinion, you wont change it. and i only said it is impractical in situations that don't involve a referee or 1 attacker - not all situations.
@danjack17 I'm not trying to change your opinion. I am simply pointing out that you are wrong. BJJs take downs are Judo and Greco Roman Wrestling. In a self defense situation, if the fight winds up on the ground you better believe that it is the most practical thing to be able to safely remove yourself from a bad position. People who don't train BJJ think they know everything about it, just like you. They assume that BJJ fighters are trying to pull guard. Not at all. Train it first then talk.
@WhiteBeltAcademy Ive trained with BJJ guys and every time we spar all they do is constantly try and take you to ground ('try' being the optimal word).. that is where they fight from, that is where they are comfortable and that is dangerous in real life situations and most of the time they struggle to even win from there, so personally it is a useless art and i prefer jujitsu and judo as they are both holistic and better attuned to self defence AND competition if that is the path you prefer.
@danjack17 I'd love to know why fighting from the ground is dangerous in real life situations. And if a "BJJ guy" is struggling to win from there then you are rolling with people who are useless. Find a real BJJ school and roll with a purple belt or above and I guarantee there will be no struggle on his end. You can say all day that BJJ is useless, but it is a PROVEN art. And it is proven time and time again to be prevalent. You are just being bitter about it.
@WhiteBeltAcademy the guys we spar with train at PBJJ - a very good school from what ive heard and i know a few of them have won a lot of comps.. usually they are blue and purple belts, last week one of the BJJ black sparred with one of a JJ black belts at my club - my club won. In my opinion it was very equal though. Im just saying if u are in a multi attacker situation - you don't wana be naturally primed to go to ground which is what a lot of the guys who come and train with us seem to be.
@WhiteBeltAcademy you have proven my point.. it is practical in controlled situations or 1 on 1 situations.. any other situation going to ground is dangerous unless u have to in which case, knowing judo or jj or bjj is a good thing however id be using more so to get back to my feet asap and defend myself.. i actually like BJJ haha i just train judo and jj.. clearly you are passionate about BJJ and good on you.. My point was in multi-attacker situation BJJ is not the most practical
@danjack17 First of all, that wasn't your point. Your point was that BJJ was nothing more than rolling on the ground and that is dangerous. Second of all, I didn't prove your point, I disproved it. It isn't about rolling around on the ground. It is about establishing the dominant position. There is no such thing as a practical multiple attacker style. It isn't that I am passionate about BJJ, it is just annoying to see people discredit a style based on the weirdest and illogical reasons.
@danjack17 And you proved my point, you said that you would get back to your feet asap. That is why BJJ is so practical. In a multiple attacker situation, no BJJ fighter is trying to go to the ground...they want to stay off of it. Better yet, no fighter of any style is trying to fight multiple people. If you think your Judo and JJJ is suitable for multiple attackers, then well... lets just hope you don't have to find out the hard way.
@danjack17 I don't really like fighting on the ground in an actual street fight, but one time I was at this local place called duff park and I was playing football with some of my friends, there was this dude, whose name I've already forgotten (sorry this was a pretty long time ago) he got mad because I kept tackling him and he starting swinging, We were fighting and then he speared me to the ground, if I hadn't known BJJ I wouldn't have been able to sweep the guy and defend against him.
MMA is not a single fighting style. MMA stands for "Mixed Martial Arts."
It is a combination of two or more fighting styles. Saying "Judo vs MMA" is meaningless in my mind because MMA could mean Muy Thai, BJJ, Boxing, Karate, Tai Kwon Do put together.
awesome demo very easy to follow. was wondering what is the english name for both the throws? also could you do a demo/technique of a takedown you could do if someone is grabbing from behind whilst standing not on the floor?
@ESPIONAGE09 Ippon Seoi Nage means 'One Arm Shoulder Throw' and Osoto Otoshi means 'Large Outer Drop'.
If someone is on your back, but not standing on the floor, ippon seoi nage would get them off very well. I did that to my cousin once-He flew right off and It knocked the wind out of him too.
nix buum ich mach seit 8 jahren judo und aus diesen positionen hätte man viel wirkungsvollere technicken anwenden können da bei den gezeigten techniken der tori viel zu weit vom körper des uke entfernt is
und die bodenhalten waren zwar korrekt aber aus der 1. technik der kaesa- gatame hätte man den gegner erstens besser unte kontrolle und zweitens liegt da der kopf frei und die arme sind blockiert wodurch man den gegner ganz einfach mit 1 2 Schlagen gegen die schläfe ausknocken könnte
Using Judo in MMA? Dude, there are so many fighters that use judo in MMA already, some of them were Olympic Judokas. This is like asking "Using BJJ and Wrestling in MMA?"
nice drop Seoi-nage, with the osoto gari, no need to move your arm across, at 2:03 can leave your left arm in the underhook, pull up with your right arm to create the space and hit with your left shoulder to get his momentum going backwards, then step in and hook the leg, will take him down with a lot more force. Probably a better way to do it for a big guy like yourself. Your way would probably be better for a smaller guy though, gotta see what works for you
Thats a nice Ippon Seionage with a double knee drop, its can also come in handy if someone is running at you about to get their grip or with a fist xD
Im a judo player at the Olympic training center but i also do bjj on the side and i hate doin drop seo on them cus they always get there hooks in. But this looks really good. Im gona have to try it. thanks
@gabodapvper throws=points....if you can put them on the ground every time, you don't even need to grapple with them to win. and judokas have ground game too...
gabodapvper Thats gotta be the stupidest comment Ive ever read on youtube. If I went by your reasoning my only option in a fight would be to run. Why punch when he will just block and counter? Why clinch when he might just take me down? Why run if he might catch up? I guess we should just let people do what ever because according to your reasoning if we do anything he may just counter us. The Trinangle choke aka Sankaku Jime comes from Judo not BJJ, so you can be sure we know counters too.
thats not what im saying you shouldent not do anything because ur afraid of a counter but u fuckers act like judo is amazing because he can toss the guy it doesent mean shit if the guy will choke him unconcious
@gabodapvper Time this throw right and the fight will be over. Judo has been doing Subs alot longer then BJJ. Im no expert, but I have multiple submissions and multiple escapes for each submission in my repetoire. BTW BJJ comes from Kodokan Judo my friend. In my club we learn to throw and go into newaza imediately. Honestly by the sounds of it you have never been to a Judo class in your life atleast not after you were 12 yrs old anyways.
@kirokyukan naw i don't think he has if so he would be talking alot different than he is now...gabodapvper ur welcome to come to my judo club we don't bite...we slam lol.
@gabodapvper It in Vineland New Jersey if you need the address i can send it you, as for as me being a tough , not at all but thinks for your outlook on me lol.. please show up.
HAHAHAHA..... you havent seen the video's where the gracies tap out Judo guys? I love judo man... but saying a style that predominantly does throws is better than i style that ONLY does the ground ON THE GROUN!... Thats just stupid.. Both are great... but in a 1 on 1 fight (having fought a judo brown belt) I would take my BJJ... Yeah i got dumped on my head and it hurt...but i still locked that triangle in and got the tap... Honestly.. both styles kick ass.... Nuff said!!!
@75ehwtcv LMAO! Your funny! Are you talking about the video where the Gracies (World Champion BJJ Players) go to some backwoods Dojo and mess up a bunch of guys who are nowhere near world Calibre fighters? Or what about the one where Royce enters a Local Judo tourney to fight a bunch of noobs? Those videos only prove the Gracies are dicks. Its like superman competing in the Olympics, or better yet Yoshida competing in a local BJJ tourney ... who do you thinks gonna win?
Yeah it depends a lot on the Judo training school, most prefer to teach stand up, others focus a lot more on newaza (ground work). I was lucky to start off in a place where we split it up 50/50 but I eventually started BJJ and switched to that after 3 yrs of Judo. I personally find BJJ a lot more fun and not so egocentric.
@kirokyukan It also depends on the dojo you go to. My dojo is particularly well known for its fierce newaza. But its pretty much mostly black belts and brown belts as well. Im one of the handful of orange belts who go there. Its 90% randori. And 90% newaza. A lot of black belt bjjers cross train here as well. In self defense I would easily choose judo over bjj. But because my back is starting to become bad for practical reasons Ill transfer over to bjj eventually.
MrMZaccone I do not have an idea why you are saying this to me, or what it is that you are saying. Are you sure you were replying to my comment? you might want to double check on that
Your comment about this being a "free wrestling throw" and Not a "judo throw" is ignorant. It is in fact ... both and your contention in attempt to place it in one category or another is ridiculous. In Judo it's name is "ippon seoi-nage". In wrestling it is called a "flying mare" among other things.
body if you do not know how you are talking to you should stfu, I am a 3rd dan black belt judoka sensei with over 27 years of experience, since when we judokas place our heads side to side uke vs tori to apply a technique, the ones who do that are the wrestlers that is why their ears are all fucked up
@MrMZaccone yeah whatever, go and make an apointment with a doctor and get all that stupid crap on your ears fixed, good luck :) (just kidding, you know we judokas do not get angry at anything, I wish you the best)
I don't get angry either, just frustrated sometimes at people who won't argue fairly (not you). I've sometimes seen more variation in a single technique within one art than there is between arts. I also don't have cauliflower ear because I was smart enough to listen to my instructors when they told me not to try to yank my head out of stuff. Are you really telling me you've never seen a top Judoka with cauliflower ear? Even those that work lots of ne-waza? Really? ... really?
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your right if i wana learn about fighting im gona paint my skin black and take growth hormones.....because being big and black makes him an expert....
Remember bjj is a modified form of judo techniques for the ground. Judo in many ways is the father of bjj. Once you modify judo for both throws and the ground it is priceless.
Really thats funny how come at Tristar Gym in Montreal teaches it (thats where St. Pierre Trains by the way). I understand there are Vale Tudo fights in Brazil where people die, but it is also a martial art, and in Spanish its called Vale-Todo. FYI
TKD is considered by many to be one of the less practical striking arts. Kyokushin karate, boxing, and MT are all excellent and fairly common, but much of the philosophy of TKD is flawed in combat situations.
Judo, when trained properly, is at the same level as wrestling and BJJ, imo, so long as the ground game (newaza) receives proper attention.
i have only practiced judo but a freind of mine is a black belt in tae kwon do and a purple belt in judo and he now refers to tae kwon do as and i qoute "a sport for pregnant women".
Judo. Tae Kwon Do is a great martial art in it's true form, it's just that looking for a a school which teaches the true form is like chasing a fly with a knife. You can do it. It'll just take forever. Whereas with judo you can find a decent dojo all over the place. Also Judo has a much more practical and realistic training method through randoori.
Even though martial arts are really about the martial artists, you can look through the early UFC and see the grapplers whoop ass.
No, taekkyon was taekkyon. A predecessor to Taekwondo and heavily influenced TKD kicks. We are talking about the history of Taekwondo itself as a martial art. It has come a long way since it's birth in the mid 1900's. It's basically oldschool Japanese Karate with Korean techniques since it was developed by Koreans returning from Japan.
in a sense, most martial arts nowadays.. are geared towards entertainment. Which saddens me a bit, as i do judo and their is hardly any focus nomore on ne-waza
ah lucky you, i'm going to enroll to a bjj dojo because of the lack of ne-waza at my judo.
tho i'm kinda skeptical, is the current TKD still so effective? i always found it slight ineffective, but im a punching type.. so ive never got passed a decent lowkick as far as kicks go.
It really depends if the particular dojang emphasizes sport competition based training or teach mainly as a martial art based on self defense and possibly kickboxing competition.
I think maybe only in Korea will you find crazy people that still train oldschool ways with hardbody and all that good stuff you see in the movies. However, TKD practitioners with training geared towards combat can be good fighters.
probably, but as always the oldschool fighters, are the most deadliest, since most martial arts tend to be really effect yet rule out dangerous moves, and even prohibited certain techniques for crowd appeal.
If you think about it, it makes sense. You can punch and kick bags and air, and do forms all you want with perfect technique but if you never train towards real life combat, you won't know how to handle yourself in those situations where everything is not so perfect with many other factors coming into play.
That is simply why styles like Judo, BJJ, MT, Kyokushin, and mixed martial arts systems etc seem so effective is because they regularly emphasize sparring in scenarios that are similar to real life fight.
this guy needs to go back to instructor course to know that wile demonstrating a technique you never show what you are not supposed to do!!!
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eorlandil 2 months ago
who the fuck cares versus or vs. who the fuck are you? the dam internet police? stfu and learn or go somewhere else tool
jiminycricket69 2 months ago
@jiminycricket69 Actually that's it's the top comment, prevents a lot of people to dislike this video, believe it or not ;)
narnia5k 2 months ago
But mma "mixed martial arts" consists of judo
Joeschmo8725 5 months ago
this is stupid anyway to be an MMA fighter judo is one style u need to learn
Mike49064 6 months ago
theres judo fighters in mma
crits123 6 months ago
i bet that other guy is like......man if this dude slam me one more time!!!..
lando9386 6 months ago
I like the second one, passes the half guard too. The first one seems risky, but maybe that's why it works, nobody thinks an opponent would attempt a throw like that in a grappling situation.
psychedashell 7 months ago
Ippon Seoi Nage
arkonastriborg123 7 months ago
???? Brazilian frag????? Vc é brasileiro???? (Nice tutorial)
Dannylowrock 7 months ago
Good stuff. Thanks.
hootiepaladin 7 months ago
gostei da bandeira do brasil ao fundo...
ari613 8 months ago
This is NOT Judo vs MMA, but it seems like an instructional on how to apply Judo techhniques in MMA situation.
Good video, but the moron who posted this should check a damn dictionary and learn what the hell "versus" (vs) actually means.
largefirmmember 8 months ago 31
@largefirmmember the whole point i guess behind the video is judo would beat mma in a fight therefore i would not say hes a moron more than simplifying the title that is why youtube has a description to post what is really the detailed subject basically all this guy was trying to prove was that this is a common mma move to clinch i guess therefore this move counters it so its kind of like versus get it KINDA?
jackthePS3GAMER 7 months ago
@jackthePS3GAMER
There is nothing in the vid that shows that judo would beat MMA in a fight. I don't think the video was trying to demonstrate that at all.
As I said before, when you look at the way "vs" is used here, it look as if the uploaded thought that "vs" means to "add" or "pair" something together which is NOT what it means.
Anyway, I don't want to complain or argue about it too much. It's just that incorrectly named tittles on YT vids are abit annoying that's all.
largefirmmember 7 months ago
@largefirmmember oh sorry i wasnt aggressively starting a argument here i was just showing what he could have been saying sorry but yes i get what your saying and it makes sense.
jackthePS3GAMER 7 months ago
@largefirmmember Actually if he added one more word at the end of this, it would be correct. Versus, means it rival or go against. So in all actuality, this is "Judo vs MMA Techniques or Situations". Just because there is no fight, doesn't mean it is not "Versus".
HairofSteel555 6 months ago
@HairofSteel555
"Versus, means it rival or go against."
"So in all actuality, this isJudo vs MMA Techniques or Situations"
Well your definition of VS is correct. However Judo 'vs' MMA techniques/situations isn't entirely correct imo. For example: Is this guy using Judo "against" MMA techniques or situations? No. he's not. He's actually going along WITH MMA by showing how you can incorporating Judo techs into mma techs and situations.
So that's actually not "vs" by any definition.
largefirmmember 6 months ago
Anyway, it's been 2 months since I posted that (seemed like longer).
At the time, I just got abit pissed off when people would upload videos with the wrong description either intentionally (e.g to trick people or get more views) or because of misinformation/ignorance.
It just feels like it annoys/waste time of people watching it who were expecting what's in the description.
I don't really care anymore whether "vs" is used correctly or not (personally I still think not).
largefirmmember 6 months ago
@largefirmmember Good point, but he was showing what he would do in the clinch. Which does happen in street fights and MMA. Not saying you're wrong. Just trying to find some even ground. It would be more helpful to see this technique practiced at full pace, but still informative to escape a clinch.
HairofSteel555 6 months ago
dahora
lucasbolification 8 months ago
first throw is my all time favorite... i am trying to learn to do it properly
blink180heights 8 months ago
HARD MAT :S
nevzom 9 months ago
2:18 guys head bounces off the "mat". ouch
Tracer564 9 months ago
Great video!
EricRyanConstantine 9 months ago
it probably helps that he is twice his opponents guys size
AllgoodBrother 9 months ago
lol my ex is hung and of being hung but he loves it when I blow him... and he knows judo....
MrSpemat 9 months ago
for sure but tht is a basic move bro lol
warriorwrestler140 9 months ago
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i thought this was a gayy poorn
100airstriker 9 months ago
@100airstriker Sorry to dissapoint you ;)
figthersdreams 9 months ago 85
@figthersdreams lawl
greenpeacemyass 4 months ago
@100airstriker what a bag
Shuukyou 6 months ago
second technique is *o-soto-gari ... (not o soto otosshi)
crakegame123 9 months ago
Why must everyone compare BJJ and Judo. BJJ exists because of Judo and Judo exists because of Ju-Jitsu(Japanese)
Passenger87 10 months ago
@Passenger87 People with small dicks/tits tend to do that kind of stuff.
otomo129 9 months ago
can you please make a video of a no gi application of Uchi Mata?
hillpaintball 10 months ago
Thank you for this video. Im gonna practise this!
minasz 11 months ago
try to perform a lower kata guruma starting witn ippon seoi nage :)) nice techinque btw :))
Skataenaonoma 11 months ago
I dont know any Judo guy worth his salt that would go that deep into a shoulder throw,I hate the whole this style is supirior to that style BS find something you like and be the best you can be at it and quit worrying what someone else is doing.
MrNapalm138 11 months ago
brazilian jiu jitsu is far superior than judo.
BluePittbull666 11 months ago
@BluePittbull666 brazillian jiu jitsu was adapted from judo and all it is is rolling around the ground.. not exactly the most practical situation.
danjack17 11 months ago
@danjack17 BJJ is probably the most practical style.
WhiteBeltAcademy 9 months ago
@WhiteBeltAcademy I dont find purposely going to ground and defending yourself from your back a practical situation, id prefer to know what to do on the ground as a last resort while also being well trained in staying on my feet and defending myself from there - makes it safer, faster and much easier to get away when you get the chance... unless of course you are in a guaranteed single attacker or refereed situation, purposely going to ground when you don't have to is stupid and dangerous.
danjack17 9 months ago
@danjack17 Train the style before you make your judgements because if it were just rolling around on the ground, it wouldn't dominate most styles.
WhiteBeltAcademy 9 months ago
I train Judo non-competitvely and Sakura Ryu Ju Jitsu and have so for the past 10 years.. i don't need to try BJJ. and no one style dominates another style, especially when your talking about BJJ, Judo and Ju Jitsu.
danjack17 9 months ago
@danjack17 Thats my point, you don't train BJJ and you are making a claim that BJJ is just rolling on the ground. That is like saying judo is just throwing. I train BJJ/ Sport Judo and can tell you that it is more than that. To call it impractical is ridiculous. Try it first then establish an opinion.
WhiteBeltAcademy 9 months ago
@WhiteBeltAcademy BJJ is also trained at the academy i train at, so i've seen the stand up they teach and other stuff - sometimes we even train with the bjj guys when we do Newaza randori. I find BJJ as a real world defensive art ridiculous and dangerous, that is my opinion, you wont change it. and i only said it is impractical in situations that don't involve a referee or 1 attacker - not all situations.
danjack17 9 months ago
@danjack17 I'm not trying to change your opinion. I am simply pointing out that you are wrong. BJJs take downs are Judo and Greco Roman Wrestling. In a self defense situation, if the fight winds up on the ground you better believe that it is the most practical thing to be able to safely remove yourself from a bad position. People who don't train BJJ think they know everything about it, just like you. They assume that BJJ fighters are trying to pull guard. Not at all. Train it first then talk.
WhiteBeltAcademy 9 months ago
@WhiteBeltAcademy Ive trained with BJJ guys and every time we spar all they do is constantly try and take you to ground ('try' being the optimal word).. that is where they fight from, that is where they are comfortable and that is dangerous in real life situations and most of the time they struggle to even win from there, so personally it is a useless art and i prefer jujitsu and judo as they are both holistic and better attuned to self defence AND competition if that is the path you prefer.
danjack17 9 months ago
@danjack17 I'd love to know why fighting from the ground is dangerous in real life situations. And if a "BJJ guy" is struggling to win from there then you are rolling with people who are useless. Find a real BJJ school and roll with a purple belt or above and I guarantee there will be no struggle on his end. You can say all day that BJJ is useless, but it is a PROVEN art. And it is proven time and time again to be prevalent. You are just being bitter about it.
WhiteBeltAcademy 9 months ago
@WhiteBeltAcademy the guys we spar with train at PBJJ - a very good school from what ive heard and i know a few of them have won a lot of comps.. usually they are blue and purple belts, last week one of the BJJ black sparred with one of a JJ black belts at my club - my club won. In my opinion it was very equal though. Im just saying if u are in a multi attacker situation - you don't wana be naturally primed to go to ground which is what a lot of the guys who come and train with us seem to be.
danjack17 9 months ago
WhiteBeltAcademy 9 months ago
@WhiteBeltAcademy you have proven my point.. it is practical in controlled situations or 1 on 1 situations.. any other situation going to ground is dangerous unless u have to in which case, knowing judo or jj or bjj is a good thing however id be using more so to get back to my feet asap and defend myself.. i actually like BJJ haha i just train judo and jj.. clearly you are passionate about BJJ and good on you.. My point was in multi-attacker situation BJJ is not the most practical
danjack17 9 months ago
@danjack17 First of all, that wasn't your point. Your point was that BJJ was nothing more than rolling on the ground and that is dangerous. Second of all, I didn't prove your point, I disproved it. It isn't about rolling around on the ground. It is about establishing the dominant position. There is no such thing as a practical multiple attacker style. It isn't that I am passionate about BJJ, it is just annoying to see people discredit a style based on the weirdest and illogical reasons.
WhiteBeltAcademy 9 months ago
@danjack17 And you proved my point, you said that you would get back to your feet asap. That is why BJJ is so practical. In a multiple attacker situation, no BJJ fighter is trying to go to the ground...they want to stay off of it. Better yet, no fighter of any style is trying to fight multiple people. If you think your Judo and JJJ is suitable for multiple attackers, then well... lets just hope you don't have to find out the hard way.
WhiteBeltAcademy 9 months ago
@WhiteBeltAcademy just a show off art that was stolen from jujitsu and judo lol
danjack17 9 months ago
@danjack17 I don't really like fighting on the ground in an actual street fight, but one time I was at this local place called duff park and I was playing football with some of my friends, there was this dude, whose name I've already forgotten (sorry this was a pretty long time ago) he got mad because I kept tackling him and he starting swinging, We were fighting and then he speared me to the ground, if I hadn't known BJJ I wouldn't have been able to sweep the guy and defend against him.
salvationwar 9 months ago
@BluePittbull666 u need em all dimwit
ryanbryanryan 9 months ago
@BluePittbull666 u need em all dimwit..
ryanbryanryan 9 months ago
Weirded out by the hostility towards Judo. BJJ is just newaza from Judo.
AkatsukiPR0 1 year ago
@AkatsukiPR0 yes, but expanded with more moves and guard passing techniques and ankle locks etc..
IversonRockz 10 months ago
Nice video dude, seems very effective, imma trying this in my next training session....
icescream77 1 year ago
You have good technique and you fight well. I wish you many successes in your future.
RexBaselio 1 year ago
"The best combination for mma would be thai kickboxing for standup, and judo,for the clinch and a good base for your ground game."
-Bas Rutten
mikekeaarney 1 year ago
Very nice ipon seoi nage, my favorite judo move. Can't wait to get back into judo!
TwilightCodex 1 year ago
morote seoy naghe, osoto gary... judo rules..
masradonas 1 year ago
@masradonas instructor is missing the "major" part of the "outter reaping"...judo rules...
unclecreepy127 1 year ago
locura
bruno48910 1 year ago
Really well performed! Respect.
mikecrevil 1 year ago
0:37. Sounded like he broke his knee or enkle or something.
iTziiMuNeZz 1 year ago
MMA is not a single fighting style. MMA stands for "Mixed Martial Arts."
It is a combination of two or more fighting styles. Saying "Judo vs MMA" is meaningless in my mind because MMA could mean Muy Thai, BJJ, Boxing, Karate, Tai Kwon Do put together.
VirTuALxBeAst 1 year ago
nice...
shinomoricute 1 year ago
he needs to rember that his opponent you be so easy to throw
jkp0526 1 year ago
you kan make tomoe nage
roberrt100 1 year ago
you kan make tomoe nage
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roberrt100 1 year ago
Wow, thanks for the tips. I'm sure they'll be great next time I beat up my pillow
iamccraig 1 year ago
@iamccraig hahahahahaha
meningzegger 1 year ago
very nice! thumbs up...thank you for sharing
232323C 1 year ago
awesome demo very easy to follow. was wondering what is the english name for both the throws? also could you do a demo/technique of a takedown you could do if someone is grabbing from behind whilst standing not on the floor?
ESPIONAGE09 1 year ago
@ESPIONAGE09 Ippon Seoi Nage means 'One Arm Shoulder Throw' and Osoto Otoshi means 'Large Outer Drop'.
If someone is on your back, but not standing on the floor, ippon seoi nage would get them off very well. I did that to my cousin once-He flew right off and It knocked the wind out of him too.
Nickster63 1 year ago
judo is about effientcy and controlling your opponent .. good examples you showed
MrBOB39 1 year ago
do they teach in judo any groundgrappling? just curious
d6ud9e 1 year ago
nix buum ich mach seit 8 jahren judo und aus diesen positionen hätte man viel wirkungsvollere technicken anwenden können da bei den gezeigten techniken der tori viel zu weit vom körper des uke entfernt is
und die bodenhalten waren zwar korrekt aber aus der 1. technik der kaesa- gatame hätte man den gegner erstens besser unte kontrolle und zweitens liegt da der kopf frei und die arme sind blockiert wodurch man den gegner ganz einfach mit 1 2 Schlagen gegen die schläfe ausknocken könnte
VolcomStonedHD 1 year ago
bad ippon soe nage
yannkomi 1 year ago
Using Judo in MMA? Dude, there are so many fighters that use judo in MMA already, some of them were Olympic Judokas. This is like asking "Using BJJ and Wrestling in MMA?"
Tommy9834 1 year ago
nice drop Seoi-nage, with the osoto gari, no need to move your arm across, at 2:03 can leave your left arm in the underhook, pull up with your right arm to create the space and hit with your left shoulder to get his momentum going backwards, then step in and hook the leg, will take him down with a lot more force. Probably a better way to do it for a big guy like yourself. Your way would probably be better for a smaller guy though, gotta see what works for you
BroomeBlocker4 1 year ago
Fighersdream,
J'ai un meilleur nom pour ce video: "Judo technique for MMA." Merci.
yussefumaketse 1 year ago
this is move is called oseo nage
mybloodrunscold007 1 year ago
lol judo beating mma hahahahaha thats a good one
COOLKALE91 1 year ago
Thats a nice Ippon Seionage with a double knee drop, its can also come in handy if someone is running at you about to get their grip or with a fist xD
yewhooman 1 year ago
Oh shit dude, if i closed my eyes i would have sworn i was listening to GSP talk.
kanguesso 1 year ago
judo the best!! <3333
hpirace 1 year ago
ive used the move at 0:41 in a wrestling match...hopefully ill use it in a sambo match...nice stuff
planefreak3 2 years ago
left hander. confuses me :D
just joking, great video
iBogaStylez 2 years ago
hey thanks a lot 4 this vid
Im a judo player at the Olympic training center but i also do bjj on the side and i hate doin drop seo on them cus they always get there hooks in. But this looks really good. Im gona have to try it. thanks
usastarsjudokid 2 years ago
that's great love the technique and the accent
judoisoww 2 years ago
Really useful, cheers for the throw demonstration.
aikighost 2 years ago 17
Thank you. If you need any technique and/or explanation tell me and I'll try to upload a new video.
figthersdreams 2 years ago 14
how about more about using judo technique against bJJ fighters?
5batspriwo 2 years ago
whats the point of throwing somebody to the ground if hes just gona traingle choke once hes there
gabodapvper 2 years ago
@gabodapvper throws=points....if you can put them on the ground every time, you don't even need to grapple with them to win. and judokas have ground game too...
5batspriwo 2 years ago 2
your right because points are the only thing that matter in a fight......lol good luck with that idea
gabodapvper 2 years ago
gabodapvper Thats gotta be the stupidest comment Ive ever read on youtube. If I went by your reasoning my only option in a fight would be to run. Why punch when he will just block and counter? Why clinch when he might just take me down? Why run if he might catch up? I guess we should just let people do what ever because according to your reasoning if we do anything he may just counter us. The Trinangle choke aka Sankaku Jime comes from Judo not BJJ, so you can be sure we know counters too.
kirokyukan 2 years ago 2
thats not what im saying you shouldent not do anything because ur afraid of a counter but u fuckers act like judo is amazing because he can toss the guy it doesent mean shit if the guy will choke him unconcious
gabodapvper 2 years ago
@gabodapvper Time this throw right and the fight will be over. Judo has been doing Subs alot longer then BJJ. Im no expert, but I have multiple submissions and multiple escapes for each submission in my repetoire. BTW BJJ comes from Kodokan Judo my friend. In my club we learn to throw and go into newaza imediately. Honestly by the sounds of it you have never been to a Judo class in your life atleast not after you were 12 yrs old anyways.
kirokyukan 2 years ago 6
@kirokyukan naw i don't think he has if so he would be talking alot different than he is now...gabodapvper ur welcome to come to my judo club we don't bite...we slam lol.
CAVINW 2 years ago
lol for 1 I have been to a judo calss for 2 where is your club tough guy?
gabodapvper 2 years ago
@gabodapvper It in Vineland New Jersey if you need the address i can send it you, as for as me being a tough , not at all but thinks for your outlook on me lol.. please show up.
CAVINW 2 years ago
HAHAHAHA..... you havent seen the video's where the gracies tap out Judo guys? I love judo man... but saying a style that predominantly does throws is better than i style that ONLY does the ground ON THE GROUN!... Thats just stupid.. Both are great... but in a 1 on 1 fight (having fought a judo brown belt) I would take my BJJ... Yeah i got dumped on my head and it hurt...but i still locked that triangle in and got the tap... Honestly.. both styles kick ass.... Nuff said!!!
75ehwtcv 2 years ago
@75ehwtcv LMAO! Your funny! Are you talking about the video where the Gracies (World Champion BJJ Players) go to some backwoods Dojo and mess up a bunch of guys who are nowhere near world Calibre fighters? Or what about the one where Royce enters a Local Judo tourney to fight a bunch of noobs? Those videos only prove the Gracies are dicks. Its like superman competing in the Olympics, or better yet Yoshida competing in a local BJJ tourney ... who do you thinks gonna win?
kirokyukan 2 years ago
Yeah it depends a lot on the Judo training school, most prefer to teach stand up, others focus a lot more on newaza (ground work). I was lucky to start off in a place where we split it up 50/50 but I eventually started BJJ and switched to that after 3 yrs of Judo. I personally find BJJ a lot more fun and not so egocentric.
4c00h 2 years ago
@kirokyukan It also depends on the dojo you go to. My dojo is particularly well known for its fierce newaza. But its pretty much mostly black belts and brown belts as well. Im one of the handful of orange belts who go there. Its 90% randori. And 90% newaza. A lot of black belt bjjers cross train here as well. In self defense I would easily choose judo over bjj. But because my back is starting to become bad for practical reasons Ill transfer over to bjj eventually.
Alexsteen 8 months ago
@kirokyukan Why stop at judo? Where judo came from? thin air? Jujitsu Grandfather, judo and bjj grand children.
kalikaputra 8 months ago
@gabodapvper with all due respect i would like to invite you to train at our judo club i would pay for your ticket here and back.
CAVINW 2 years ago
anyway, that is not a judo throw, that is a free wrestling throw
affiliate30 2 years ago
It's both. It's a floor wax and a dessert topping. Oh, and btw, stfu!
MrMZaccone 2 years ago
MrMZaccone I do not have an idea why you are saying this to me, or what it is that you are saying. Are you sure you were replying to my comment? you might want to double check on that
affiliate30 2 years ago
Your comment about this being a "free wrestling throw" and Not a "judo throw" is ignorant. It is in fact ... both and your contention in attempt to place it in one category or another is ridiculous. In Judo it's name is "ippon seoi-nage". In wrestling it is called a "flying mare" among other things.
MrMZaccone 2 years ago
body if you do not know how you are talking to you should stfu, I am a 3rd dan black belt judoka sensei with over 27 years of experience, since when we judokas place our heads side to side uke vs tori to apply a technique, the ones who do that are the wrestlers that is why their ears are all fucked up
affiliate30 2 years ago
Good for you. You're still full of shit.
MrMZaccone 2 years ago
@MrMZaccone yeah whatever, go and make an apointment with a doctor and get all that stupid crap on your ears fixed, good luck :) (just kidding, you know we judokas do not get angry at anything, I wish you the best)
affiliate30 2 years ago
I don't get angry either, just frustrated sometimes at people who won't argue fairly (not you). I've sometimes seen more variation in a single technique within one art than there is between arts. I also don't have cauliflower ear because I was smart enough to listen to my instructors when they told me not to try to yank my head out of stuff. Are you really telling me you've never seen a top Judoka with cauliflower ear? Even those that work lots of ne-waza? Really? ... really?
MrMZaccone 2 years ago
@gabodapvper I don't know but I'm pretty sure the scary looking Black guy knows a lot more about the sport than you.
nano4288 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
your right if i wana learn about fighting im gona paint my skin black and take growth hormones.....because being big and black makes him an expert....
gabodapvper 2 years ago
@gabodapvper You're an idiot. You know what I mean. He obviously has training in the sport that is far superior to yours.
nano4288 2 years ago
your saying being big and black is a fighting credential but your calling me an idiot? lmao
gabodapvper 2 years ago
@gabodapvper No. I'm saying he "has training in the sport". Dumbass. Learn to read.
nano4288 2 years ago
try and keep them standing cos then they dnt have a clue :)
seishin48 2 years ago
Hi Great Video...Can you help me with o uchi gari, ko uchi gari, uchi mata, o goshi and kata guruma...thanks
AJDevilx 2 years ago
can you do one on how to incorporate the uchi mata into wrestling? :)
tosxpert 2 years ago
gi or no gi that is the question. I guess everybody should learn both
gonzalojudovm 2 years ago
Vale Tudo = MMA
It's the ancestor name of MMA...Portuguese.
You guys should check my other vids where I fight wrestlers, jiu-jitsu guys and even MMA sparring
figthersdreams 2 years ago 3
Bien joue!
KillerSalmon 2 years ago
Remember bjj is a modified form of judo techniques for the ground. Judo in many ways is the father of bjj. Once you modify judo for both throws and the ground it is priceless.
aquin520 2 years ago 12
Not really modified, more as developed.
DotKuroBPM 2 years ago
Vale-Tudo is the best in my opinion.
crowdogr6 2 years ago
Vale-Tudo isnt a martial art, it's a no holds barred match
term02 2 years ago
Really thats funny how come at Tristar Gym in Montreal teaches it (thats where St. Pierre Trains by the way). I understand there are Vale Tudo fights in Brazil where people die, but it is also a martial art, and in Spanish its called Vale-Todo. FYI
crowdogr6 2 years ago
Vale-Tudo is exactly what it means..."Anything goes"....it is MMA.
elguapotetigre 2 years ago
In Latin, valetudo means health. Todo means 'all' in Spanish, valetudo means health, the way I see it.
1PostPoMoMaN1 2 years ago
Term comes from Portugese:
Vale=Allowed
Tudo=Everything/All.
Hence, "anything goes"
aznrice4ever 2 years ago
I didn't know that. I only know a little Spanish, hence my ignorance... or ignorancia.
1PostPoMoMaN1 2 years ago
well it isn't a Spanish word.... it is a Portuguese word
AlaskanTKDKid 2 years ago
Really cool video, good stuff!!
phand21 2 years ago
Tem Uma Bandeira do BRasil la atrás
saulinho94 2 years ago
Which is better Judo or tae kwon do ????? i have no idea....please tell me!!!
Sp1nS1ide 2 years ago
i enjoy judo better, it fun to throw opponents, i feel more in control in a clinch....
Krnmustang11 2 years ago
i've never done tae kwon do but i think that judo is more practical close range.
turismogamer 2 years ago 2
TKD is considered by many to be one of the less practical striking arts. Kyokushin karate, boxing, and MT are all excellent and fairly common, but much of the philosophy of TKD is flawed in combat situations.
Judo, when trained properly, is at the same level as wrestling and BJJ, imo, so long as the ground game (newaza) receives proper attention.
tgtennis 2 years ago 2
i have only practiced judo but a freind of mine is a black belt in tae kwon do and a purple belt in judo and he now refers to tae kwon do as and i qoute "a sport for pregnant women".
TheUpgradeBrigade 2 years ago
sadly for you, theres not a purple belt in judo, or at least not in the list of belts in the original judo
lightleggyreturns 2 years ago
unless his friend is under 18.....
AlaskanTKDKid 2 years ago
must be one shitty tkd school....at my school we train harder then i have in my judo classes i take @ school...
AlaskanTKDKid 2 years ago
JUDO
kellark12A 2 years ago
Judo. Tae Kwon Do is a great martial art in it's true form, it's just that looking for a a school which teaches the true form is like chasing a fly with a knife. You can do it. It'll just take forever. Whereas with judo you can find a decent dojo all over the place. Also Judo has a much more practical and realistic training method through randoori.
Even though martial arts are really about the martial artists, you can look through the early UFC and see the grapplers whoop ass.
DotKuroBPM 2 years ago
TKD in it's true form is Korean Karate. Traditional ITF Taekwondo.
aznrice4ever 2 years ago
tkd's true form was taekkyon wasn't it?
Taronga 2 years ago
No, taekkyon was taekkyon. A predecessor to Taekwondo and heavily influenced TKD kicks. We are talking about the history of Taekwondo itself as a martial art. It has come a long way since it's birth in the mid 1900's. It's basically oldschool Japanese Karate with Korean techniques since it was developed by Koreans returning from Japan.
aznrice4ever 2 years ago
ah ok :) thanks for the ellaboration ^^.
in a sense, most martial arts nowadays.. are geared towards entertainment. Which saddens me a bit, as i do judo and their is hardly any focus nomore on ne-waza
Taronga 2 years ago
Yes, TKD proved to be a very effective system. It was used by the Korean marines and devastated the ranks of NVA during the Vietnam war.
I like Judo because alot of traditional gyms can still be found rather easily. At my dojo we still ne-waza every session.
aznrice4ever 2 years ago
ah lucky you, i'm going to enroll to a bjj dojo because of the lack of ne-waza at my judo.
tho i'm kinda skeptical, is the current TKD still so effective? i always found it slight ineffective, but im a punching type.. so ive never got passed a decent lowkick as far as kicks go.
Taronga 2 years ago
It really depends if the particular dojang emphasizes sport competition based training or teach mainly as a martial art based on self defense and possibly kickboxing competition.
aznrice4ever 2 years ago
yeah, sadly you dont always get to pick what kind of thing they teach at which classes/dojo.
Taronga 2 years ago
I think maybe only in Korea will you find crazy people that still train oldschool ways with hardbody and all that good stuff you see in the movies. However, TKD practitioners with training geared towards combat can be good fighters.
aznrice4ever 2 years ago
probably, but as always the oldschool fighters, are the most deadliest, since most martial arts tend to be really effect yet rule out dangerous moves, and even prohibited certain techniques for crowd appeal.
Taronga 2 years ago
If you think about it, it makes sense. You can punch and kick bags and air, and do forms all you want with perfect technique but if you never train towards real life combat, you won't know how to handle yourself in those situations where everything is not so perfect with many other factors coming into play.
aznrice4ever 2 years ago
That is simply why styles like Judo, BJJ, MT, Kyokushin, and mixed martial arts systems etc seem so effective is because they regularly emphasize sparring in scenarios that are similar to real life fight.
aznrice4ever 2 years ago 6