Correlation does not prove Causation, and there are plenty of normal people who have had vaccinations with no noticeable side effects. People argue that just because side effects are not noticeable doesn't mean that they dont exist, but if the effects are not noticeable, then why should they matter? also, it is not fair to the majority if the population that a few people see fit to withold vaccinations from their children and subject other people todiseases that can be irradicated. Hopefully on
And in August 1982, I ran across a very busy six laned arterial road in one continous motion and got hit by a car to avoid receiving the Salk vaccine at school ten days later. In the US, the road running would be called "running across a very busy six laned highway with your eyes shut and getting hit by a car". Despite the successful outcome, people around me do believe that I did it for my own good. I rely on this deed for a near infinite supply of happiness and self-esteem and self belief.
I actually got measles at age 8 in November 1978. I got very sick and missed alot of school, but I now have a lifetime protection for it. I am 95% certain that I have either aspergers or mild autism too. But Jenny is now considered to be in very "junior" league when compared to climate change deniers like Lord Monkton and Australian poilitians like Tony Abbott (who used to be Australia's health minister in the Howard federal government!) and his attack on the Carbon tax to reduce carbon output.
Clin Pharmacol Ther. 2007 Dec;82(6):756-9. Epub 2007 Oct 10.
Curr Opin Neurol. 2007 Apr;20(2):181-7.
Can J Neurol Sci. 2006 Nov;33(4):341-6.
Can J Psychiatry. 2010 Nov;55(11):715-20.
The studies have been made, they've been made all over the place. Kudos to the scientists who didn't take sides, looked at the data, and called it like they saw it.
I got live measles at age 8 in 1978. Even with this, I still do believe in vaccine choice. That choice is up to us to recieve them, not the government forcing us.
ThieleM resorts to lying ad hominem & refuses to post the 2 best studies he can find showing vaccines are not linked to autism (with lead authors, sponsors, conflicts)
If the 2 best he can find are wrong the rest are garbage
The FDA/CDC/Merck all rely on epidemiology (the study of records). Epidemiology can never prove vax don't cause autism. They claim no link is found, but cherry picked data can yield any results
Epidemiology is easily manipulated & independent clinical studies are needed
Ugh Ill stand by my point. As a future medical profession it is my duty to educate people about vaccines. Obviously, a youtube forum about Jenny McCarthy is a horrible place to start a spam war. Enjoy yourself Im done.
@ckdino1 Glad you admit you are unable to find 2 truthful studies to post which shows vaccines are not related to rising autism rates. If you change your mind then ensure you list lead authors, sponsors, conflicts & only 2 studies. I don't have time to refute the dozens you are trying to bring up
Why didn't you try to dispute the DeSoto/Hitlan study which exposed Ip & Wong as shameless manipulators?
Why didn't you comment on Dr Bernadine Healy's remarks that "Vaccines may cause autism"?
@ckdino1 A medical professional, what a surprise... a lying drug industry researcher. During your free time spend go to ageofautism. com or volunteer at a center for autism - get a dose of reality
Autism's cause is unknown. Vaccines are the only obvious correlation to now epidemic autism (1990 4-5/10,000 - 2009 1/110). Genes CANNOT cause an epidemic. The DSM-IV definiton of autism was NARROWED in 1994 because of DSM-III false positives, so changing diagnostic criteria didn't cause the rise
What cdkino reveals is he is merely a shill that refuses to stand behind 2 studies because he realizes that he has ZERO truthful unconflicted studies to produce for evidence that vaccines do not cause autism
Vaccines are the ONLY correlation for the rising autism epidemic. Since the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act was passed in 1986 NO ONE can sue a vaccine maker for damages, even for negligence. This led to tripling the vaccine schedule in 20 years & increasing autism by 33X
wow your comment about vaccines not saving lives is beyond comprehension. I think this conversation is over. There isnt much point in reasoning with someone that doesn't believe vaccines actually work. And yes its pretty obvious you need a IS for vaccines to work. Maybe you could have been more specific and told me that you need a T-dependent B-Cell activation for it to stimulate a humoral and cellular response. Either way I thank you for this collosal waste of time. I got exams to study for hah
wow your comment about vaccines not saving lives is beyond comprehension. I think this conversation is over. There isnt much point in reasoning with someone that doesn't believe vaccines actually work. And yes its pretty obvious you need a IS for vaccines to work. Maybe you could have been more specific and told me that you need a T-dependent B-Cell activation for it to stimulate a humoral and cellular response. Either way I thank you for this collosal waste of time. I got exams to study for hah
Well thats something we can agree on. I agree vaccines are not fool proof. Rotatrix is a prime example, but thats different from saying that vaccines cause autism. There is no link. I agree that we have to keep an eye out for Pharm companies, but determination of mandatory vaccinations is not taken light heartily and to say that Pharm companies have an influence on what is deemed mandatory is almost saying that the medical community as a whole is corrupt.
argh you tube itsnt letting me link. "Prenatal and Infant Exposure to Thimerosal from Vaccines and Immunoglobins and Risk of Autism" is published in the October 2010 print edition of Pediatrics. and "Closer look at autism and the measles-mumps-rubella vaccine." are the titles. Again vaccines save millions of lives and to deny so is to fail at public health. Honestly this wouldnt be an issue if ur unvaccinated kids didnt pose a potential biohazard. You body ur choice
@ckdino1 You avoid the issue. Post the 2 best studies you can find. List lead authors, sponsors, conflicts. If I can't show they are frauds, irrelevant, wrong or too conflicted I will apologize & admit you have a point
Vaccines do not save millions of lives. Proper nutrition, hygiene & sanitation do more for our health than vaccines ever will. Vaccines are passive targets for our immune systems (IS) to recognize destroy & remember. Vaccines are useless unless our IS is working
This is CDCs most recent article. Published Sep 2010.
here is a review of 20 past articles on the subject. All no causation. Fyi dont stand scientific articles like they are the hand of God. All should be taken with a grain of salt. That being said if there is conclusive evidence that vaccines hurt people I will yield to you. Until then vaccines save millions of lives and thats a fact.
again cdkino refuses to list pertinent info on only 2 best studies vax are not related to autism
He refers to 23+ different studies without listing info on ANY of them
He ignores former NIH Director Dr Bernadine Healy's statement that "Vaccines may cause autism" & "It's inexcusable the proper studies have not been done"
I expose a "no evidence" study as wrong, he ignores the info & states "scientific articles... should be taken with a grain of salt" right after he refers to 20 such articles
I think that yo dont understand what goes on in the scientific community. Of course your going to find articles that contradict one another. Its just that the MAJORITY of the articles find no causal link. We can pull articles on each other until the sun goes down. But so far there isnt convincing evidence that there is a causal link and vaccinations should not be stopped.
@ckdino1 I don't think you want to respond to the challenge I offered you. Post your 2 best studies, list lead authors, sponsors, conflicts summary
Dr Bernadine Healy in 2008 said "Vaccines may cause autism" & "It's inexcusable that the proper studies have not been done". Dr Healy is a former NIH Director, Professor of Medicine at Johns Hopkins, Chair of The Research Institute at The Cleveland Clinic, Vassar summa cum laude, Harvard Med cum laude... are you qualified to say she is wrong?
You imply I am anti-vax, not true. I want safe vaccines. Safe for all kids or we find a way to ID those kids who are susceptible to to damage from live bacteria/virus in vaccines or the for-profit toxins the drug industry puts in them
SAFE vaccines... Since 1986 vaccine makers are no longer liable for the damage their products cause, even negligence. They don't need insurance or lawyers. Vax are a gravy train, so they push for more mandatory vaccines w/o regard to the damage they cause
1) Not everyone is a mechanic but thats just an off hand comment about common sense. Generally when the majority of experts in a field tell you that something is not a problem you are probably not gonna have a problem.
2) Your comment about a small amount of researchers preforming autism studies trying to link autism to vaccines is wrong. Finding a causal link between vaccines and autism is worth of a Nobel prize. Huge studies done in Japan, Netherlands, and the United States indicate...
@ckdino1 that there is no causal relationship between the two. Do the PubMed search Autism/Vaccines... not google scholor... PubMed.
3) No evidence in the sense that there is no evidence that vaccines cause autism is exactly what I want. The only argument is that relevant that that evidence hasnt been found yet, which is valid. But current evidence show that there is no link. So why put millions of lives at risk on a hunch?
AGAIN... POST YOUR 2 BEST STUDIES... do you not want to stand behind any studies? Do you already know you don't have 2 studies that have been honestly done by unconflicted researchers?
Why are you avoiding the chance to expose me as a liar, rather than just baselessly saying it?
@ckdino1 Again, list 2 studies with the info I requested. You are referring to known fraudulent studies. Post ANY 2 of them. They are KNOWN frauds & manipulations. The exposees are available online. The author conflicts are infamous
Post your info, stand by 2 studies as true examples of good research
The # of researchers who do autism research is small compared to the # of researchers in the world. But I see you modified your analogy by claiming "experts in a field" rather than all researchers
You know, when my car has a problem I usually go see a mechanic because I am not a mechanic. When I take my car in maybe I am not happy with what my mechanic says and may be I dont believe him. So I may go see another mechanic down the street that my friend recommended. This mechanic says the same thing. After visiting the majority of the mechanics in the world I get a handful that say my left tire is on the right side and thats causing the problem. I think the choice is obvious
If I search long enough on PubMed and I can dig out a poorly designed and written article linking vaccination to autism. Does that mean vaccines cause autism. No. Although, there has been mistakes in vaccine development such as Rotatrix but its not like no one in the medical community is monitoring whats going on. Even at the slightest suspicion that there is a problem vaccines are removed. Personally, I would gladly take the odds of dying from a vaccine than from small pox back in the day
Desoto & Hitlan take a study cited by many vaccine proponents that mercury is not related to autism & show the study's data shows the opposite. How can researchers make "mistakes" that favor the drug industry's claim that vax are not related to autism?
htt+p://w+ww.ncbi.nlm.nih.+gov/pubmed/18006963
Sponsors, none. Conflicts, none. DeSoto and Hitlan used their own time/resources. They were invited by JCN editor to publish their study in the same journal the bad study was published in
If all the mechanics you took your car too said you needed a transmission, & they all received kickbacks from the transmission makers when they replaced one, how much faith would you have in thier diagnosis of your problem?
Post your 2 best pieces of evidence that vaccines are not related to autism. List lead authors, sponsors, conflicts & summary. All of the studies I have read are wrong, irrelevant, fraudulent or too conflicted to be believed. Show me one that is TRUE. Stand by it & defend it
I've watched Jenny and Dr's that agree with her along with Dr's that disagree...I'm on Jenny's side....this song isn't being truthful about Jenny and her reasons...Try listening to the actual debates before you write a song about her that isn't truthful.
The poster of this video misses the point completely
Jenny doesn't say not to vaccinate. She says vaccines need to be cleaned up, and they certainly do
A patent filed in the USA by Medeva Europe, a drug company, is for a procedure to improve the purity of pharmaceuticals, "especially vaccines". Many vaccine components are made inside genetically altered bacteria & yeast, crushed to release the product. It has to be purified, but is ALWAYS contaminated - DNA fragments, endotoxins, other debris
We need more videos like this. Celebrities use their status for the wrong reasons! They must become informed themselves before they open their mouths. Perhaps she should speak to those who have lost children from seasonal influenza. Remember Jenny . . . . their is NO evidence between autism and vaccines! Dr. Wakefield is rotting in prison somewhere. What an expert he was.
A sketch on her MTV show centered on her character, a well-coiffed business woman, answering the question of "What did you have for lunch?" by seeming to force herself to vomit all over a table which she then ate on-screen.
johnnyd now says Dr Bernadine Healy is mistaken & a conspiracy theorist
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Dr Healy is a cum laude graduate of Harvard Med School, a Professor of Medicine at John Hopkins, former Director of the NIH & Chair of The Research Institute at The Cleveland Clinic (1 of the top 4 hospitals in the USA)
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This mainstream doctor/scientist/administrator johnnyd calls mistaken & a conspiracy theorist because she stated in 2008 on CBS "Vaccines may cause autism" & "the proper research hasn't been done"
@johnnyd101 mercury is still in some pediatric vaccines in trace amounts. big Pharma could put mercury back into vaccines today. there is no regulation or law to stop them
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The pediatric flu shot has the old overdose level of mercury in it. There is a preservative free version if you request it and pay for it
@michael0156 your crazy babble is not evidence there is no link found between vaccines and autism.. jenny mccarthy is a murder and your next child could be her victim
@michael0156 right you are completely wrong mercury levels are far below levels found in fish and less than.1%of the overdose level i suggest you do research and not on anti vac sites because they are heavily biased and not based in fact.you should watch a youtuber's video's on vaccinations his name is C0nc0rdance
d101 is simply a liar. My info comes from the EPA, CDC and FDA
Whether or not mercury causes autism should be clinically studied, but that it damages infants is a fact. Mercury is not banned from being in pediatric vaccines. the FDA asked vaccine makers to remove it and they have not complied completely leaving "trace" amounts in mahy pediatruc vaccines and a large dose in children's flu vaccine given to kids 6 months and older
ageofautism. com has all of the information anyone needs
@michael0156 give a fucking website that isn't filled with pseudo science and jenny mac carthy your info is coming from your ass.you could get a billion celebs a million nurses and 100 doctors to agree with you the facts remain the same the definition of autism was widened in early 90's,there are more diagnosis of it because of that and better more widespread diagnostic skills and there is no experimental link of mercury to autism. and the mercury was removed in vaccine and rates still increase
Part 2 - Shills like arcana batigol47 stumpyouch warthaug lie about autism vaccines & Dr Wakefield. Why do they lie?
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Vaccines are a benefit. Vaccines also damage kids, & it is a very low % so affected. We MUST make the effort to identify them BEFORE they are injected & their lives destroyed
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FDA/CDC refuse to admit a vaccine/autism link for 3 reasons. Big Pharma Influence/money, govt/corporate liability & fear of pandemics from not vaccinating. Let's stop the nonsense & find the truth
Part 1 - No one knows the causes of the afflictions in the autism spectrum. Regressive/classic autism & childhood disintegrative disorder are terrible ways to lose your child. After developing normally for 2-4 years your child can't talk or care for herself
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Vaccines are the only obvious related event & the one thing that's NEVER been clinically studied to determine the truth
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Dr Healy, former head of the NIH, has said the FDA/CDC/Big Pharma have not done the proper research
My son was not vaccinated until he was 2 years old, and was obviously autistic at the age of about 18 months. Time to get over the conspiracy theories. There's NO evidence that vaccines cause autism. But it's YOUR child who is in danger, and it's YOU who is more likely to shop for child-sized coffins. I feel bad for any child who's parents put them at risk like this. Honestly, it's neglect and child endangerment, and parents who don't vaccinate should lose custody.
@jdgmommy31103 You are simply a liar/fear mongerer. I doubt you have a child at all as your arguments pure Big Pharma B.S.
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The VAST majority of kids are able to handle vaccination without problems
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There is a small % of kids who are susceptible to the for-profit toxins or live antigen in vaccines & are damaged. The Vaccine Court has paid thousands of kids & their families billions for vaccine damage. 1 case of autism has been admitted
@jdgmommy31103 Claims parents are guilty of child abuse if they do not vaccinate
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She is a complete shill. No one is saying "anti-vaccine" except the shills. They attack as anti-vaccinationist anyone who questions vaccine schedules or toxins in vaccine or implies big Pharmas are merely greedy by adding for-profit toxins to vaccines
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Vaccines have damaged THOUSANDS of kids by the admission of the FDA/CDC & despite the 100s of millions Big Pharma spent in their defense
@jdgmommy31103 Try reading/understanding the highest rated comments for this video. pay attention to Dr Bernadine Healy, former head of the NIH, who said in 2008 that vaccines may cause autism
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Stop your fear mongering & accusing parents of child abuse for not vaccinating kids
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If I had young kids I would think hard before vaccinating, especially with the lying I know is done by Big Pharma & CDC/FDA bureaucrats/scientists
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YOU are hurting kids with your unreasoning lying fear mongering
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@michael0156 so you would believe a celebrity with there poor reasoning skills than a scientist that trained for many years to understand diseases and help prevent them. you sound homicidally stupid no offense...
@johnnyd101 Dr Bernadine Healy, a former head of the NIH & Chair of the Research Institute of the Cleveland Clinic (1 of the top 4 hospitals in the USA), Professor of Medicine at John Hopkins & many other accomplishments...
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Dr Healy says "Vaccines may cause autism" & "It is inexcusable that the proper studies have not been done"
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Dr Healy's public comments echo those of Jenny McCarthy, who you claim has poor reasoning skills. Are you also claiming Dr Healy has poor reasoning skills?
@StopGMO i am saying 1 doctor is not evidence just because she says there is a link does not mean there is. she is 1 doctor and i am saying she is mistaken yes. also the treat from not getting your kid vaccinated is 1 you should shrug off because 1 mistaken doctor says so?? she is also a conspiracy theorist
I post facts/opinions from authorities. You come here empty handed and empty headed. Since you challenge me with nothing I assume you are a drug industry supporter & vaccine damage denialist. I've dealt with your type before
Vaccines are the only obvious correlation to autism & it's epidemic 20 year rise. Genes can't cause epidemics. If changing diagnoses caused a 33 fold rise in autism the APA (making the diagnostic criteria in the DSM-IV) or psychiatrists using the DSM can't do their jobs
Let's start with the Vaccine Court decisions which acknowledge vax cause autoimmunity, encephalitis, meningitis, arthritis, autism, seizures, gastrointestinal disease & MUCH more
Let's talk Eli Lilly, maker of thimerosal & their safety study done in 1931. A secret they kept for 50 years was the human subjects of the thimerosal study were all dying of meningococcol meningitits when they were repeatedly injected with thimerosal. Lilly also ignored studies showing thimerosal was unsafe. Wanna see?
How about we talk about Merck, maker of 12+ vaccines who murders 60,000 of their customers with one drug, Vioxx. Merck sought approval of this drug though they knew it was killing people in 1996 trials by inducing heart attacks and strokes.
They lied to the FDA, NEJM, threatened peer reviewers trying to expose the deaths Vioxx was causing, published a FAKE peer reviewed journal to hawk Vioxx and another harmful drug Fosamax
This type behavior permeates the drug industry, making refutation EASY
@StopGMO - Prove it. Show me statistics, facts, studies. Not just your own conjecture. Without sources, your argument is as good as pulled out of your arse.
Also, was Vioxx a vaccine? We're talking about vaccines, not other kinds of drugs.
Prove that they have "threatened peer reviewers". Show that their research was fake. Don't just make shit up.
Vioxx is made by Merck who makes 12 vaccines. The executives/scientists at Merck knew Vioxx was a killer in 1996, lied to get it approved, lied to the New England Journal of Medicine publishing Vioxx studies & published a fake journal. All of this & more was revealed in Australian Vioxx lawsuits. They are a matter of record. Elsevier issued an apology for publishing the fake journal for Merck along with 8 others & 13 more in the works
You throw out baseless accusations that I am lying
@ThieleM You are parrotting the drug industry position or you are a liar
Produce 2 studies that show vaccines are not correlated to autism. List lead authors, sponsors, conflicts. I will demonstrate they are frauds, wrong, irrelevant or too conflicted to be believed
That "tiny minority" you talk about is nearly half the adult population that fear vaccinating their kids, because of facts not fear mongering. The drug industry & the FDA/CDC are the fear mongerers & profiteers
And I have a news flash for you: It doesnt matter that 'nearly half' of the adult population is afraid of giving their kids shots (a stat I reject without proper references) one bit. That doesnt make their fears founded. You have just made a logical fallacy.
Why do you need me to produce studies? Do you really think that if you can debunk 2 studies your side wins? Thats funny.
Let me guess....you are also a creationist arent you?
1. What autism diagnosis does your child have? Be specific
2. Who diagnosed him at 18 mo?
3. You say "I feel bad for any child who's [whose] parents put them at risk like this... it's neglect & child endangerment" Are you talking about vaccination?
4. Why was your child not vaxed until 2y?
5. You say there is no evidence vaccines cause autism. Wrong. Just the timing of vax & autism is enough to require clinical studies
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@StopGMO i'm sorry but many studys all over the world have found no links so your conspiracy is complete bs and is endangering children so i hope you feel awful when you realise your wrong
Since 1990 pediatric autism diagnosis rose 33 fold. Diagnosis of autistic adults did not
If autism was genetic or if new diagnostics caused the rise the adult population would be as large as the child population. It isn't
The rise was new & rooted in environmental triggers not diagnostic changes or genetics
Mandatory vaccines & toxins are the only known correlation/association increasing in lock step with autism's rise. Clinical study using toxin-free vaccine is needed
Great song and I think it points out the ignorance of some 'celebrities' like her that can influence people to ignore the scientific and medical world as a whole in favor of celebrity opinion. But, I guess that's called "thinning the herd." If idiots decide to take the written word of one book a celebrity published over years of study in science and medicine, then so be it.
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I think it is wrong to bad mouth Jenny the way that this song does. it mentions Jenny doesnt care if your kids dying, well YES she does! there are children out there that do die as a result of seizures, which are believed to be caused from the toxins in vaccines. I have 2 children with Autism myself and I am not convinced either way. But I have read Jenny's books and know what she and other mothers like her have been through and just think it is wrong to bag her out.
So sorry for what must be so much trauma for your children, but: You said you "believe" the seizures are caused by the vaccines. That's the problem. Science isn't about belief...it's about repeatable tests that verify knowledge. There's no need for a leap of faith...we actually know. Vaccines do not cause autism. It's a pity that anyone, Jenny included, has to go through what you are going through...just don't assign blame where none exists.
@Blaine63 The increase in the # of vaccines & the toxins in them are the only correlation to the 20 year rise in autism. A simple clinical study using toxin-free vaccine would settle the question
If genetics or changing diagnosis were to blame for autism's 20 year rise we would have a matching rise in adult autism diagnosis. We don't.
Blaine's behavior is dispicable, feigning sympathy for the victims of autism, while lying saying science has proved vaccines don't cause autism.
Don't think that because you can choose not to vaccinate you can choose not to put them at risk. In fact kids are automatically at far greater risk of pain, disability and death, *until* vaccines take this away and replace it with a risk that is thousands of times less.
People who refuse to use vaccines stupidly risking their children's lives. People like Jenny here do this on a mass scale, which is why there is definitely blood on her hands.
no i did not. i had my children vaccinated against diseases that i think warrant vaccination after carefully reading all that was availble to me and talking to doctors with different opinions.
i am now running an informal survey on mmr to see if other old people have similar memories to maie, that is mmr and chickenpox mainly being a very run of the mill thing that nobody worried unduly about.
I had chicken pox at 3 (I'm 43 now), but my parents both prayed hard that I'd be okay because I have a neuro condition that can kill me. Thank God, I didn't have problems with it. When the mumps made the rounds, I was the only one spared who hadn't already had it. My sisters both got it...and my dad got it at 35 yo. I remember thinking he'd never get out of bed again. It was very frightening, to say the least. These diseases are MUCH more dangerous when you're older, and VACCS WORK!!!!!!!!
Mercury isn't really that dangerous. As for it being the second most dangerous substance known, that's is just demonstrably wrong. I have can name at least a dozen that are much much more toxic. As could any chemist or biologist.
My comment did not read well at all. My point: She goes on and on about how we need to avoid evil toxins at all costs and then runs out and gets botox shot into her face.
Apparently it's only a toxin if it's in a vaccine.
Sometimes I marvel at the fact that people are willing to listen to someone merely because she is semi-famous. If I get into playgirl, does that mean that I should be taken seriously when I rant about string theory?
Please, don't play the 'Oh, if only he had an autistic kid' card. That is utter bullshit. I am myself an autistic adult. Do I thus pass your credibility test?
Vaccinations have nothing to do with autism, according to all the available evidence. To say otherwise is to fail at both elementary logic and critical thinking simultaneously.
I am sick and tired of seeing autistic people dragged into arguments that are not based on any evidence, and are instead purely political.
I'm guessing TheAmateurScientist doesn't have kids, and doesn't know anyone with kids who have autism. Man...if I knew then...there's NO WAY I'd have vaccinated my kids. BTW - mine WERE vaccinated, and still got chicken pox.
There has been numerous studies debunking the claim that there is a link between autism and vaccines. Vaccinations are not 100% guaranteed to prevent a disease in everyone who is vaccinated. After one dose of MMR, approximately 90-95% of children are protected against measles, over 95% against rubella, and 85-90% against mumps. After two doses, almost 100% of people will be protected against all three diseases.
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All of the time that was spent writing this igonorant song, compiling photographs and putting this video together might have been better spent researching the facts, both about vaccines and about measles and mumps incidence among vaccinated populations. JMcCarthy is not anti vaccine, she is just trying to inform people about the real dangers of vaccines, in spite of uninformed comments from people like "amateur scientist".
Funny ...I had measles and mumps and chicken pox as a kid. I was very sick for a week or so and recovered. My son was a normal baby, got his vaccines for measles and mumps and did not speak another word for 4 1/2 years, he now has autism and has never recovered. Would you rather have measles or a life long disability? By the way 85% of the kids who were hospitalized in the last mumps outbreak were vaccinated.
Valmcin, which outbreak are you talking about? I've been searching through the history of recent outbreaks and in every case the majority of people who fell ill were not vaccinated. In the 2006 US outbreak, only 30% of the victims were vaccinated.
Aside from that, I'm sorry for your son's condition, but anecdotes are not evidence, especially when statistics contradict them.
Ha, Ha... This video is great!! And to menlomana... I love the comment "No studies exist proving vaccines work." I was dying laughing!! Ask smallpox if vaccines work. Oh wait, it's been eradicated......
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How ignorant. I feel sorry for people who don't get it. Ultimately the public will wake up. But by then it may be too late to avoid the massive vaccine induced reactions that are becoming the diseases that plague our generation - autism among them. I most pity the children, the innocent victims. No studies exist proving vaccines work. Ask your doctor. Last year's measles outbreak hit vaxed kids. Rx manufacturers play on fear to sell drugs. Look at chicken pox. Why a vax? We all had it as kids.
Most people in the population are vaccinated. You're just harping on a specific section which correlates, but with nothing that shows causation. How much you want to bet 100% of those who were hit by the outbreak also breathed before catching it. "Research before commenting" good advice.
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Are you an idiot? Do you research first. She isnt opposed to vaccines. She does, however, want SAFE vaccines. Who doesnt. Let's see 1 in 150 diagnosed with autism.......hello idiot!!! These children were perfectly healthy until they received their shots. .........come on, use some common sense. I guess your children were the lucky ones.
Actually, she has changed her stance several times. Also, I have worked with several autistic kids who hadn't received the suspect shots.
There are so many things that need to be considered and researched. It is really dangerous to get your info from a bunny. There actually is a lot of exciting research about autism out there. It just doesn't get press b/c the educated people who relay the info don't cause scenes and demand attention for themselves.
Actually Scientific Data currently proves that current vaccines are not the cause of Autism. Although the chemicals they add due poss a serious health risk. Tell you what, you skip vaccines and when the next serious wave of deadly disease comes around we won't have to worry about you crying and calling people idiots. Showing your lack of education and belief in common mania is not very becoming.
Insufficient to point to it conclusively, yes. However, if you had the slightest inclination of how natural selection works, or what the nature of the Autistic sensory perception is, you would not be so quick to discount the possibility. If you were up to date on the genome studies, you would also know that the higher functioning forms are becoming more prevalent. I may turn out to be incorrect, but it is you who is unable to see beyond the confines of his own, limited understanding.
Wow, my intellect is being insulted by a self professed sniffer of glue. Genetic mutation is how evolution occurs. Obviously something has been found to be desirable because more people are mating with Autistics, producing offspring on he spectrum. Try reading Darwin.
This has got to be the biggest piece of garbage I've seen yet. A. The question isn't NO vaccines, it is SAFE vaccines. If you listened, you would know that.
B. I am fully vaccinated & yet have had whooping cough. So, vaccines are not the be all & end all.
C. Do your own research & make your own decisions. Don't let one celebrity (Amanda Peet or Jenny McCarthy) make a decision "for" you.
Jenny McCarthy is perhaps the biggest idiot on the face of the Earth. Maternal instincts do not make you an expert. She is probably after publicity. On her Opera appearance, she said that her son was diagnosed in only 5 minutes when in reality, it takes months or years to diagnose.
Whatever. Sabotage the human race. The genetic mutation that is autism is becoming more and more common. Run puny humans, evolution won't be stopped. Welcome to the future of the species.
Ah, no the definition for the spectrum of symptoms which are called autism has grown, making it appear as if autism has increased when actually the instances have remained constant.
Thank you! I try to explain this to people and no one wants to listen. Twenty years ago my son would've just been and late talker who was really shy and quiet. Today, he has an autism spectrum disorder. I'm sure if I was a child today I would have a place on the spectrum too.
What I dislike most about JM is that she rejects her child as "abnormal" because he has autism. She forces this poor child to undergo horrific unproven therapies (that cause him to vomit for hours). What if autism IS normal? how about all the great people like Temple Gradin that are autistic and contribute.Different doesn't always need to be "fixed". Accept,love, and adapt.If only she knew life is richer with autism, more difficult yes, but richer. Want a perfect baby, adopt one Jenny!
Great mysol. But formaldehyde is a ubiquitous chemical. In fact, babies naturally make formaldehyde, and tend to have much more in their bloodstream at any given time than we inject with a vaccine. And of course, there's no evidence that formaldehyde causes autism, or any other mental illness.
And why, when you were discussing the toxicity of mercury, did you cite the stats for methylmercury? Don't you know that ethylmercury is the stuff used in vaccines?
@Hooya2 another shill, heartless too, attacking a distraught mother with dis-information
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The only stats available are for methylmercury. That is the standard used by the CDC and FDA when guesstimating the risk of thimerosal in vaccines.
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Our bodies making formaldehyde is one of the studpidest remarks I have ever heard. You must be confused sweetie. the only way formaldehyde gets into a normal person is from the breakdown of aspartame, and this causes serious neurological side effects
wow...you are such a good God loving person huh? Hello? If my kid is fine I'm ok with everyone else dying...plus wanting people to DIE from mercury poisoning? Which isn't in vaccines anymore? Hello? Your selfish unChristian behavior is typical of the California woo "me first" generation.
video (dot)google(dot)com/videosearch?q=182%20million%20vaccines&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wv#
so that .5cc shot contains 50,000ppm if the doctor dropped the vial on the floor it would be Haz Mat!
watch the video... we are everyday people we are not dumb. we understand like all things there are risks, we just don't like that our children are taking a risk that includes brain injury...
People who think that mother's who are concerned about what is in vaccinations don't "trust modern day medicine" are way out of line. How dare you insinuate that we don't have a grasp on it because we choose to disagree with you. You have a God complex that is really undeserved.
Mysol, I want to be clear; the reason I think you don't have a grasp on basic science is because you've repeatedly made stupid arguments, not because you disagree with me. I mean, you've seriously abused the guilt by association fallacy so many times, and made so many basic mistakes--like trying to equate ethyl- and methylmercury--that it's pretty obvious that you're incompetent.
A non-vaccinated child cannot put vaccinated children at risk if the vaccines are effective. In fact, it is the vaccinated children who expose other children to increased risk. This has been confirmed again and again in outbreaks where a majority of the affected children were recently vaccinated. So what are you worried about? If your precious vaccines are so great, then you shouldnt worry about all those Moms I am influencing to ask for Safer vac
So then why has every study conducted on the issue of vaccines and autism concluded that there is zero causal link between them? And why haven't any of these studies found any sort of link at all? Does this say something to you at all? And did you know that the whole anti-vax movement came into existence as the result of one study published in the UK in the 90s, a study that we now know faked all of their data?
And also, I think the reason that those of us who trust modern day medicine are so disgusted with people who are anti-vax is not because we worry that you'll be putting our vaccinated kids at a huge risk, but because way too many of your kids die unneccessarily, as a result of diseases that we, in the 21st century, are perfectly capable of preventing with reliable, effective, and safe methods.
Like the superbugs that are created by these great docs that prescribed too many antibiotics. Like when the US Govt sent my dad cigarettes in Vietnam and sprayed him with agent orange. He has diabetes and heart disease and almost died last year as a result of the 'safe' things the US govt now knows is deadly. Do us all a favor and leave our children to us. We are perfectly capable of determining what is best. Do you attack mothers that bottle feed too? Go AWAY.
Haha - superbugs come about because of people who, like yourself, seem to be completely scientifically illiterate and don't finish theirs because they feel better. And some people may not have known about the dangers of cigarettes. Then they did a bunch of studies, and found out how bad they were. Vaccines and autism -- lots of studies, no risk of getting one from the other. Do some actual research. You don't know a thing about vaccines, and you're doing your kids a disservice.
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You are freaking Canadian! Socialist medicine please! Forgive me while I laugh at your contradictions! "And some people may not have known about the dangers of cigarettes"
HA HA HA
Like they don't know now the dangers of vaccines!
"In the 1950s, responding to the first widely publicized studies finding a link between smoking and lung cancer, the industry adopted a skeptical posture that was initially reasonable but has long since become a joke."
You seem to have a really hard time wrangling with the fact that zero scientific studies find causal correlation between vaccines and autism, which I keep saying, but apparently you can't quite grasp the idea of. Good luck with your kids, I hope they never have to suffer from measles, mumps, rubella, whooping cough or polio because of your philosophical position.
And yeah, I'm Canadian, and love not having to pay thousands for simple medical treatments.
"Julie Gerberding, the head of the CDC, went on CNN's House Call with Dr. Sanjay Gupta to discuss the Hannah Poling case and admitted that vaccines cause autism"
Check morepuppies youtube site at about 3:32 into the 10:00 video of CNN footage.
By the way I have a degree in biological and chemical sciences.
"Poorly written" because it was quoted from video of the Chief of the CDC in an interview!
"My understanding if your child has a mitochondrial disorder if your child has this disease anything that stresses them creates a situation where their cells cant make enough energy to keep their brains functioning normally and if your child is immunized and the gets a fever or other complications and your child is predisposed than it can set off some damage some of the symptoms can have characteristics of autism."
weakens the immune system, causes neurological system damage, genetic damage, metabolic acidosis, circulatory shock, respiratory insufficiency and acute renal failure, can make you sensitive to many other things, it is corrosive if ingested, and it is a suspected carcinogen. Oncologist implied that formaldehyde in vaccines may be a trigger for leukemia.
Again why wouldn't I be overjoyed to inject my infant with this 'naturally occurring' substance!!
@mysol96: You do know that formaldehyde is produced in our bodies, about 50g/day - significantly less than what is found in vaccines. It's in our blood, as it's an intermediate in the oxidation of many carbon compounds. Any MSDS sheet will tell you: "Health effects associated with formaldehyde exposure are most likely to occur at body sites which have direct contact with this chemical: the eyes, nose and throat." You should be more concerned about the diseases these vaccines protect against.
Recent studies have suggested "autism" might be linked to dysfunction of the mitochondria. New evidence has raised the possibility this dysfunction may be one of the keys that link the many diverse symptoms seen in "autism" Also evidence is growing for acquired, rather than a genetically inherited cause.
What in the 21st century is anyone doing taking medical advice from a women who is famous for posing naked in Playboy, picking her nose on MTV, and being Jim Carrey's girlfriend. A few minutes of Googling does not equal a medical degree, make her any kind of authority on the subject, or even give her basic scientific literacy.
Cherry I take medical advice from my doctor. I am a mother and my instinct counts for something. You have no right to judge me or anyone else. Vaccinate your children with the crap for all I care... they are your children. But DONT judge a woman who stands on her box and tells the world that her son is ill and demands to know why. NONE of you can tell me why my child is sick either... until you can SHUT UP!
As far as medicine goes, your motherly instinct actually doesn't count for anything. The facts count. And when there are absolutely zero facts linking vaccines and autism in a causal relationship, saying otherwise is a lie, plain and simple. I would never judge a mother demanding to know why her child is ill. But I do judge people who are scientifically illiterate and prefer to latch onto weird conspiracy theories instead of doing anything helpful about REAL problems.
Yes it does since I have sole decision on what medical choices affect my children.
There are plenty of facts you just don't see them.
I am not scientifically illiterate; you will have to make a better argument than that. Weird conspiracy theories: heavy metal toxicity (ie mercury) causes the exact same symptoms as autism
What is it to you if I don't like today's vaccines. Why must you push your thoughts on me and your insults
If you are worried about my children make a donation to autism speaks
Mysol, I always find it hilarious when anti-vaccinationists try to equate vaccines with smoking. After all, the exact same epidemiological techniques that determined smoking was bad, when applied to vaccines, have determined that they don't cause autism. Can't you taste the irony?
wow, but you are asking people to send money to "science" that is flawed. It's like "send money to the blood letting society". And why is autism so "wrong" and bad? Bill Gates is slightly autistic (aspergers). We wouldn't have the computer like we have today if not for the different way autistics think. They aren't drooling idiots you know. You are SO prejudiced.
Bill Gates does not have Aspergers syndrome. Aspergers doesn't give you an alien perspective anyway; it makes you focus on a particular subject very intensely at the expense of most others. Most people with Aspergers syndrome also aren't interested in cutting edge tech that will revolutionize science and industry; a lot are obsessed with relatively useless crap. Bill Gates also played a very minor role in the development of PCs. He's more of an entrepreneur than inventor.
Sorry lady, but there is no evidence linking any vaccinations with autism, at all. In fact, every study published on the issue has entirely disproved any causal relationship.
It is true that sometimes there may be side effects from some vaccines, in rare, susceptible people. Jenny McCarthy wants a vaccine that is 100% effective and 100% safe. That is not going to happen in this universe.
Previous posts taken from Robert F Kennedy Jr.'s Deadly Immunity Rolling Stone June 20, 2005.
In studying the Amish community (they don't vaccinate) Dan Olmstead found:
"Given the national rate of autism, Olmsted calculated that there should be 130 autistics among the Amish. He found only four. One had been exposed to high levels of mercury from a power plant. The other three -- including one child adopted from outside the Amish community -- had received their vaccines.
You do realize, though, that since Amish people do not consider some symptoms of the largest growth of autism (aspberger's) as any sort of mental defect that those results could be misleading. In fact, until the new DSM, many of those symptoms would have classified a child "Oppositional Defiant" etc.. in other words, they would have just been seen as unruly..
the study checked into that. For all children in the Amish community only 4 had any neuro-toxin symptoms. No others exhibited any signs classic to autism or add/adhd, sensory integration dysfunction etc...to me that says something.
I think we should check ALL theories, turn over every stone. Maybe the reason some kids get autism and some kids don't has to do with their bodies being able to create the antibody when the shot is administered. My son was ill or recovering every time he got a shot.
"In studying the Amish community (they don't vaccinate)..."
Most Amish DO vaccinate.
"...Dan Olmstead found..."
Cite the paper.
"...a level 99 times greater than the EPA's limit for daily exposure to methylmercury, a related neurotoxin."
Related how? Because they both have mercury? Come on, you'll have to do better than that; you might as well try to imply that water is flammable because it contains hydrogen.
Although the vaccine industry insists that ethylmercury poses little danger because it breaks down rapidly and is removed by the body, several studies -- including one published in April by the National Institutes of Health -- suggest that ethylmercury is actually more toxic to developing brains and stays in the brain longer than methylmercury.
But by that time, the damage was done. At two months, when the infant brain is still at a critical stage of development, infants routinely received three inoculations that contained a total of 62.5 micrograms of ethylmercury -- a level 99 times greater than the EPA's limit for daily exposure to methylmercury, a related neurotoxin.
"You couldn't even construct a study that shows thimerosal is safe," says Haley, who heads the chemistry department at the University of Kentucky. "It's just too darn toxic. If you inject thimerosal into an animal, its brain will sicken. If you apply it to living tissue, the cells die. If you put it in a petri dish, the culture dies. Knowing these things, it would be shocking if one could inject it into an infant without causing damage."
"Some skeptics dispute that the rise in autism is caused by thimerosal-tainted vaccinations. They argue that the increase is a result of better diagnosis -- a theory that seems questionable at best, given that most of the new cases of autism are clustered within a single generation of children."Robert F Kennedy Jr.
Rep. Dan Burton, a Republican from Indiana, oversaw a three-year investigation "Thimerosal used as a preservative in vaccines is directly related to the autism epidemic," his House Government Reform Committee concluded in its final report.
"This epidemic in all probability may have been prevented or curtailed had the FDA not been asleep at the switch regarding a lack of safety data regarding injected thimerosal, a known neurotoxin."
...meh i got cut off. anyways, dont blame medical progress for the parent's genetic deformities.
Moegget 3 months ago
Correlation does not prove Causation, and there are plenty of normal people who have had vaccinations with no noticeable side effects. People argue that just because side effects are not noticeable doesn't mean that they dont exist, but if the effects are not noticeable, then why should they matter? also, it is not fair to the majority if the population that a few people see fit to withold vaccinations from their children and subject other people todiseases that can be irradicated. Hopefully on
Moegget 3 months ago
And in August 1982, I ran across a very busy six laned arterial road in one continous motion and got hit by a car to avoid receiving the Salk vaccine at school ten days later. In the US, the road running would be called "running across a very busy six laned highway with your eyes shut and getting hit by a car". Despite the successful outcome, people around me do believe that I did it for my own good. I rely on this deed for a near infinite supply of happiness and self-esteem and self belief.
darkangel2347 6 months ago
I actually got measles at age 8 in November 1978. I got very sick and missed alot of school, but I now have a lifetime protection for it. I am 95% certain that I have either aspergers or mild autism too. But Jenny is now considered to be in very "junior" league when compared to climate change deniers like Lord Monkton and Australian poilitians like Tony Abbott (who used to be Australia's health minister in the Howard federal government!) and his attack on the Carbon tax to reduce carbon output.
darkangel2347 6 months ago
Thanks for making this video, it should be shown in birthing rooms across the country
sweetalker79 8 months ago
Press 5 ,
Is he saying Swelling your balls ??????
pupdog551 9 months ago
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Clin Pharmacol Ther. 2007 Dec;82(6):756-9. Epub 2007 Oct 10.
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Can J Psychiatry. 2010 Nov;55(11):715-20.
The studies have been made, they've been made all over the place. Kudos to the scientists who didn't take sides, looked at the data, and called it like they saw it.
1234qwergh 10 months ago
I got live measles at age 8 in 1978. Even with this, I still do believe in vaccine choice. That choice is up to us to recieve them, not the government forcing us.
darkangel2347 10 months ago
ThieleM resorts to lying ad hominem & refuses to post the 2 best studies he can find showing vaccines are not linked to autism (with lead authors, sponsors, conflicts)
If the 2 best he can find are wrong the rest are garbage
The FDA/CDC/Merck all rely on epidemiology (the study of records). Epidemiology can never prove vax don't cause autism. They claim no link is found, but cherry picked data can yield any results
Epidemiology is easily manipulated & independent clinical studies are needed
StopGMO 11 months ago
Wow, the comments on this brilliant song have been monopolized by science-denying wackos. GO TO HELL! YOU ARE KILLING KIDS!
publicanimal 1 year ago 11
Ugh Ill stand by my point. As a future medical profession it is my duty to educate people about vaccines. Obviously, a youtube forum about Jenny McCarthy is a horrible place to start a spam war. Enjoy yourself Im done.
ckdino1 1 year ago 2
@ckdino1 Glad you admit you are unable to find 2 truthful studies to post which shows vaccines are not related to rising autism rates. If you change your mind then ensure you list lead authors, sponsors, conflicts & only 2 studies. I don't have time to refute the dozens you are trying to bring up
Why didn't you try to dispute the DeSoto/Hitlan study which exposed Ip & Wong as shameless manipulators?
Why didn't you comment on Dr Bernadine Healy's remarks that "Vaccines may cause autism"?
StopGMO 1 year ago
@ckdino1 A medical professional, what a surprise... a lying drug industry researcher. During your free time spend go to ageofautism. com or volunteer at a center for autism - get a dose of reality
Autism's cause is unknown. Vaccines are the only obvious correlation to now epidemic autism (1990 4-5/10,000 - 2009 1/110). Genes CANNOT cause an epidemic. The DSM-IV definiton of autism was NARROWED in 1994 because of DSM-III false positives, so changing diagnostic criteria didn't cause the rise
StopGMO 1 year ago
What cdkino reveals is he is merely a shill that refuses to stand behind 2 studies because he realizes that he has ZERO truthful unconflicted studies to produce for evidence that vaccines do not cause autism
Vaccines are the ONLY correlation for the rising autism epidemic. Since the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act was passed in 1986 NO ONE can sue a vaccine maker for damages, even for negligence. This led to tripling the vaccine schedule in 20 years & increasing autism by 33X
StopGMO 1 year ago
Buddy, Its a review article on scientific articles that were published not an actual research study.
ckdino1 1 year ago
wow your comment about vaccines not saving lives is beyond comprehension. I think this conversation is over. There isnt much point in reasoning with someone that doesn't believe vaccines actually work. And yes its pretty obvious you need a IS for vaccines to work. Maybe you could have been more specific and told me that you need a T-dependent B-Cell activation for it to stimulate a humoral and cellular response. Either way I thank you for this collosal waste of time. I got exams to study for hah
ckdino1 1 year ago
wow your comment about vaccines not saving lives is beyond comprehension. I think this conversation is over. There isnt much point in reasoning with someone that doesn't believe vaccines actually work. And yes its pretty obvious you need a IS for vaccines to work. Maybe you could have been more specific and told me that you need a T-dependent B-Cell activation for it to stimulate a humoral and cellular response. Either way I thank you for this collosal waste of time. I got exams to study for hah
ckdino1 1 year ago
Well thats something we can agree on. I agree vaccines are not fool proof. Rotatrix is a prime example, but thats different from saying that vaccines cause autism. There is no link. I agree that we have to keep an eye out for Pharm companies, but determination of mandatory vaccinations is not taken light heartily and to say that Pharm companies have an influence on what is deemed mandatory is almost saying that the medical community as a whole is corrupt.
ckdino1 1 year ago
argh you tube itsnt letting me link. "Prenatal and Infant Exposure to Thimerosal from Vaccines and Immunoglobins and Risk of Autism" is published in the October 2010 print edition of Pediatrics. and "Closer look at autism and the measles-mumps-rubella vaccine." are the titles. Again vaccines save millions of lives and to deny so is to fail at public health. Honestly this wouldnt be an issue if ur unvaccinated kids didnt pose a potential biohazard. You body ur choice
ckdino1 1 year ago
@ckdino1 You avoid the issue. Post the 2 best studies you can find. List lead authors, sponsors, conflicts. If I can't show they are frauds, irrelevant, wrong or too conflicted I will apologize & admit you have a point
Vaccines do not save millions of lives. Proper nutrition, hygiene & sanitation do more for our health than vaccines ever will. Vaccines are passive targets for our immune systems (IS) to recognize destroy & remember. Vaccines are useless unless our IS is working
StopGMO 1 year ago
This is CDCs most recent article. Published Sep 2010.
here is a review of 20 past articles on the subject. All no causation. Fyi dont stand scientific articles like they are the hand of God. All should be taken with a grain of salt. That being said if there is conclusive evidence that vaccines hurt people I will yield to you. Until then vaccines save millions of lives and thats a fact.
ckdino1 1 year ago
again cdkino refuses to list pertinent info on only 2 best studies vax are not related to autism
He refers to 23+ different studies without listing info on ANY of them
He ignores former NIH Director Dr Bernadine Healy's statement that "Vaccines may cause autism" & "It's inexcusable the proper studies have not been done"
I expose a "no evidence" study as wrong, he ignores the info & states "scientific articles... should be taken with a grain of salt" right after he refers to 20 such articles
StopGMO 1 year ago
Sorry there was an error youtubes giving me
ckdino1 1 year ago
I think that yo dont understand what goes on in the scientific community. Of course your going to find articles that contradict one another. Its just that the MAJORITY of the articles find no causal link. We can pull articles on each other until the sun goes down. But so far there isnt convincing evidence that there is a causal link and vaccinations should not be stopped.
ckdino1 1 year ago
@ckdino1 I don't think you want to respond to the challenge I offered you. Post your 2 best studies, list lead authors, sponsors, conflicts summary
Dr Bernadine Healy in 2008 said "Vaccines may cause autism" & "It's inexcusable that the proper studies have not been done". Dr Healy is a former NIH Director, Professor of Medicine at Johns Hopkins, Chair of The Research Institute at The Cleveland Clinic, Vassar summa cum laude, Harvard Med cum laude... are you qualified to say she is wrong?
StopGMO 1 year ago
You imply I am anti-vax, not true. I want safe vaccines. Safe for all kids or we find a way to ID those kids who are susceptible to to damage from live bacteria/virus in vaccines or the for-profit toxins the drug industry puts in them
SAFE vaccines... Since 1986 vaccine makers are no longer liable for the damage their products cause, even negligence. They don't need insurance or lawyers. Vax are a gravy train, so they push for more mandatory vaccines w/o regard to the damage they cause
StopGMO 1 year ago
1) Not everyone is a mechanic but thats just an off hand comment about common sense. Generally when the majority of experts in a field tell you that something is not a problem you are probably not gonna have a problem.
2) Your comment about a small amount of researchers preforming autism studies trying to link autism to vaccines is wrong. Finding a causal link between vaccines and autism is worth of a Nobel prize. Huge studies done in Japan, Netherlands, and the United States indicate...
ckdino1 1 year ago
@ckdino1 that there is no causal relationship between the two. Do the PubMed search Autism/Vaccines... not google scholor... PubMed.
3) No evidence in the sense that there is no evidence that vaccines cause autism is exactly what I want. The only argument is that relevant that that evidence hasnt been found yet, which is valid. But current evidence show that there is no link. So why put millions of lives at risk on a hunch?
ckdino1 1 year ago
@ckdino1
AGAIN... POST YOUR 2 BEST STUDIES... do you not want to stand behind any studies? Do you already know you don't have 2 studies that have been honestly done by unconflicted researchers?
Why are you avoiding the chance to expose me as a liar, rather than just baselessly saying it?
StopGMO 1 year ago
@ckdino1 Again, list 2 studies with the info I requested. You are referring to known fraudulent studies. Post ANY 2 of them. They are KNOWN frauds & manipulations. The exposees are available online. The author conflicts are infamous
Post your info, stand by 2 studies as true examples of good research
The # of researchers who do autism research is small compared to the # of researchers in the world. But I see you modified your analogy by claiming "experts in a field" rather than all researchers
StopGMO 1 year ago
You know, when my car has a problem I usually go see a mechanic because I am not a mechanic. When I take my car in maybe I am not happy with what my mechanic says and may be I dont believe him. So I may go see another mechanic down the street that my friend recommended. This mechanic says the same thing. After visiting the majority of the mechanics in the world I get a handful that say my left tire is on the right side and thats causing the problem. I think the choice is obvious
ckdino1 1 year ago
If I search long enough on PubMed and I can dig out a poorly designed and written article linking vaccination to autism. Does that mean vaccines cause autism. No. Although, there has been mistakes in vaccine development such as Rotatrix but its not like no one in the medical community is monitoring whats going on. Even at the slightest suspicion that there is a problem vaccines are removed. Personally, I would gladly take the odds of dying from a vaccine than from small pox back in the day
ckdino1 1 year ago
Desoto & Hitlan take a study cited by many vaccine proponents that mercury is not related to autism & show the study's data shows the opposite. How can researchers make "mistakes" that favor the drug industry's claim that vax are not related to autism?
htt+p://w+ww.ncbi.nlm.nih.+gov/pubmed/18006963
Sponsors, none. Conflicts, none. DeSoto and Hitlan used their own time/resources. They were invited by JCN editor to publish their study in the same journal the bad study was published in
StopGMO 1 year ago
@ckdino1 Your analogy cannot be applied to the vaccine autism controversy
1st, there is only a small % of researchers (not "all") in the world that perform the studies claiming "no evidence" of a vax/autism link
2nd, "No evidence" is not what you want regarding such an important issue. If you don't look you won't find it
3rd, statistics is easily used to find what you want, even a lie
4th, clinical studies are the only way to prove or disprove a link, science can then be used to explain it
StopGMO 1 year ago
If all the mechanics you took your car too said you needed a transmission, & they all received kickbacks from the transmission makers when they replaced one, how much faith would you have in thier diagnosis of your problem?
Post your 2 best pieces of evidence that vaccines are not related to autism. List lead authors, sponsors, conflicts & summary. All of the studies I have read are wrong, irrelevant, fraudulent or too conflicted to be believed. Show me one that is TRUE. Stand by it & defend it
StopGMO 1 year ago
The 23 people who disliked this video were actually Measles and Mumps who are angry because people are vaccinating their kids
ChurchOfArceus 1 year ago
I've watched Jenny and Dr's that agree with her along with Dr's that disagree...I'm on Jenny's side....this song isn't being truthful about Jenny and her reasons...Try listening to the actual debates before you write a song about her that isn't truthful.
shanana000 1 year ago
The poster of this video misses the point completely
Jenny doesn't say not to vaccinate. She says vaccines need to be cleaned up, and they certainly do
A patent filed in the USA by Medeva Europe, a drug company, is for a procedure to improve the purity of pharmaceuticals, "especially vaccines". Many vaccine components are made inside genetically altered bacteria & yeast, crushed to release the product. It has to be purified, but is ALWAYS contaminated - DNA fragments, endotoxins, other debris
michael0156 1 year ago
d101 rants ageofautism. com is "filled with pseudoscience" but doesn't give 1 example. He can't
He then repeats his lie that the definition of autism was "widened in the early 90's" without a reference
If you read the DSM's Autistic Spectrum of Disorders you find autism is 1 of 5 diagnoses
Kids with CDD should be classified as autistix, but aren't. The difference? CDD is diagnosed 1-2 years later than autism
Many kids with PDD-NOS should be counted autistic
Definition of autism NARROWED
michael0156 1 year ago
You just have to love the fact that, because people know your name, you are a scientific authority. Fuck.
reallyboringusername 1 year ago 4
We need more videos like this. Celebrities use their status for the wrong reasons! They must become informed themselves before they open their mouths. Perhaps she should speak to those who have lost children from seasonal influenza. Remember Jenny . . . . their is NO evidence between autism and vaccines! Dr. Wakefield is rotting in prison somewhere. What an expert he was.
TheJCHD1 1 year ago 5
A sketch on her MTV show centered on her character, a well-coiffed business woman, answering the question of "What did you have for lunch?" by seeming to force herself to vomit all over a table which she then ate on-screen.
obsessivesffe 1 year ago
johnnyd now says Dr Bernadine Healy is mistaken & a conspiracy theorist
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Dr Healy is a cum laude graduate of Harvard Med School, a Professor of Medicine at John Hopkins, former Director of the NIH & Chair of The Research Institute at The Cleveland Clinic (1 of the top 4 hospitals in the USA)
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This mainstream doctor/scientist/administrator johnnyd calls mistaken & a conspiracy theorist because she stated in 2008 on CBS "Vaccines may cause autism" & "the proper research hasn't been done"
StopGMO 1 year ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
there has not been mercury in vaccines since 2000 if anyone is going to argue that
johnnyd101 1 year ago
@johnnyd101 mercury is still in some pediatric vaccines in trace amounts. big Pharma could put mercury back into vaccines today. there is no regulation or law to stop them
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The pediatric flu shot has the old overdose level of mercury in it. There is a preservative free version if you request it and pay for it
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Try doing a little research before commenting
michael0156 1 year ago 8
@michael0156 your crazy babble is not evidence there is no link found between vaccines and autism.. jenny mccarthy is a murder and your next child could be her victim
johnnyd101 1 year ago
@michael0156 right you are completely wrong mercury levels are far below levels found in fish and less than.1%of the overdose level i suggest you do research and not on anti vac sites because they are heavily biased and not based in fact.you should watch a youtuber's video's on vaccinations his name is C0nc0rdance
johnnyd101 1 year ago
d101 is simply a liar. My info comes from the EPA, CDC and FDA
Whether or not mercury causes autism should be clinically studied, but that it damages infants is a fact. Mercury is not banned from being in pediatric vaccines. the FDA asked vaccine makers to remove it and they have not complied completely leaving "trace" amounts in mahy pediatruc vaccines and a large dose in children's flu vaccine given to kids 6 months and older
ageofautism. com has all of the information anyone needs
michael0156 1 year ago
@michael0156 give a fucking website that isn't filled with pseudo science and jenny mac carthy your info is coming from your ass.you could get a billion celebs a million nurses and 100 doctors to agree with you the facts remain the same the definition of autism was widened in early 90's,there are more diagnosis of it because of that and better more widespread diagnostic skills and there is no experimental link of mercury to autism. and the mercury was removed in vaccine and rates still increase
johnnyd101 1 year ago 2
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Part 2 - Shills like arcana batigol47 stumpyouch warthaug lie about autism vaccines & Dr Wakefield. Why do they lie?
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Vaccines are a benefit. Vaccines also damage kids, & it is a very low % so affected. We MUST make the effort to identify them BEFORE they are injected & their lives destroyed
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FDA/CDC refuse to admit a vaccine/autism link for 3 reasons. Big Pharma Influence/money, govt/corporate liability & fear of pandemics from not vaccinating. Let's stop the nonsense & find the truth
StopGMO 1 year ago 25
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Part 1 - No one knows the causes of the afflictions in the autism spectrum. Regressive/classic autism & childhood disintegrative disorder are terrible ways to lose your child. After developing normally for 2-4 years your child can't talk or care for herself
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Vaccines are the only obvious related event & the one thing that's NEVER been clinically studied to determine the truth
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Dr Healy, former head of the NIH, has said the FDA/CDC/Big Pharma have not done the proper research
StopGMO 1 year ago 24
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@StopGMO
My son was not vaccinated until he was 2 years old, and was obviously autistic at the age of about 18 months. Time to get over the conspiracy theories. There's NO evidence that vaccines cause autism. But it's YOUR child who is in danger, and it's YOU who is more likely to shop for child-sized coffins. I feel bad for any child who's parents put them at risk like this. Honestly, it's neglect and child endangerment, and parents who don't vaccinate should lose custody.
jdgmommy31103 1 year ago
@jdgmommy31103 You are simply a liar/fear mongerer. I doubt you have a child at all as your arguments pure Big Pharma B.S.
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The VAST majority of kids are able to handle vaccination without problems
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There is a small % of kids who are susceptible to the for-profit toxins or live antigen in vaccines & are damaged. The Vaccine Court has paid thousands of kids & their families billions for vaccine damage. 1 case of autism has been admitted
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We have to identify these kids before injection
StopGMO 1 year ago 8
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@StopGMO
"The VAST majority of kids are able to handle vaccination without problems"
Not true. EVERY vaccinated child is a vaccine-injured child, even if there is no obvious evidence of harm.
"We have to identify these kids before injection"
Just refuse the shots.
Vaccination is a massive fraud and an organised criminal enterprise dressed up as disease prevention.
vaccineshurtbabies 10 months ago
@jdgmommy31103 Claims parents are guilty of child abuse if they do not vaccinate
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She is a complete shill. No one is saying "anti-vaccine" except the shills. They attack as anti-vaccinationist anyone who questions vaccine schedules or toxins in vaccine or implies big Pharmas are merely greedy by adding for-profit toxins to vaccines
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Vaccines have damaged THOUSANDS of kids by the admission of the FDA/CDC & despite the 100s of millions Big Pharma spent in their defense
michael0156 1 year ago 8
@jdgmommy31103 Try reading/understanding the highest rated comments for this video. pay attention to Dr Bernadine Healy, former head of the NIH, who said in 2008 that vaccines may cause autism
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Stop your fear mongering & accusing parents of child abuse for not vaccinating kids
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If I had young kids I would think hard before vaccinating, especially with the lying I know is done by Big Pharma & CDC/FDA bureaucrats/scientists
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YOU are hurting kids with your unreasoning lying fear mongering
michael0156 1 year ago 7
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@michael0156 so you would believe a celebrity with there poor reasoning skills than a scientist that trained for many years to understand diseases and help prevent them. you sound homicidally stupid no offense...
johnnyd101 1 year ago
@johnnyd101 Dr Bernadine Healy, a former head of the NIH & Chair of the Research Institute of the Cleveland Clinic (1 of the top 4 hospitals in the USA), Professor of Medicine at John Hopkins & many other accomplishments...
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Dr Healy says "Vaccines may cause autism" & "It is inexcusable that the proper studies have not been done"
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Dr Healy's public comments echo those of Jenny McCarthy, who you claim has poor reasoning skills. Are you also claiming Dr Healy has poor reasoning skills?
StopGMO 1 year ago 13
@StopGMO i am saying 1 doctor is not evidence just because she says there is a link does not mean there is. she is 1 doctor and i am saying she is mistaken yes. also the treat from not getting your kid vaccinated is 1 you should shrug off because 1 mistaken doctor says so?? she is also a conspiracy theorist
johnnyd101 1 year ago
@StopGMO - How about you stop making arguments from authority and start showing us some scientific data?
ChurchOfArceus 1 year ago 2
I post facts/opinions from authorities. You come here empty handed and empty headed. Since you challenge me with nothing I assume you are a drug industry supporter & vaccine damage denialist. I've dealt with your type before
Vaccines are the only obvious correlation to autism & it's epidemic 20 year rise. Genes can't cause epidemics. If changing diagnoses caused a 33 fold rise in autism the APA (making the diagnostic criteria in the DSM-IV) or psychiatrists using the DSM can't do their jobs
StopGMO 1 year ago
By the way sweetie... what's your actual position and where is your evidence?
StopGMO 1 year ago
Let's start with the Vaccine Court decisions which acknowledge vax cause autoimmunity, encephalitis, meningitis, arthritis, autism, seizures, gastrointestinal disease & MUCH more
Let's talk Eli Lilly, maker of thimerosal & their safety study done in 1931. A secret they kept for 50 years was the human subjects of the thimerosal study were all dying of meningococcol meningitits when they were repeatedly injected with thimerosal. Lilly also ignored studies showing thimerosal was unsafe. Wanna see?
StopGMO 1 year ago
How about we talk about Merck, maker of 12+ vaccines who murders 60,000 of their customers with one drug, Vioxx. Merck sought approval of this drug though they knew it was killing people in 1996 trials by inducing heart attacks and strokes.
They lied to the FDA, NEJM, threatened peer reviewers trying to expose the deaths Vioxx was causing, published a FAKE peer reviewed journal to hawk Vioxx and another harmful drug Fosamax
This type behavior permeates the drug industry, making refutation EASY
StopGMO 1 year ago
@StopGMO - Prove it. Show me statistics, facts, studies. Not just your own conjecture. Without sources, your argument is as good as pulled out of your arse.
Also, was Vioxx a vaccine? We're talking about vaccines, not other kinds of drugs.
Prove that they have "threatened peer reviewers". Show that their research was fake. Don't just make shit up.
ChurchOfArceus 1 year ago
Vioxx is made by Merck who makes 12 vaccines. The executives/scientists at Merck knew Vioxx was a killer in 1996, lied to get it approved, lied to the New England Journal of Medicine publishing Vioxx studies & published a fake journal. All of this & more was revealed in Australian Vioxx lawsuits. They are a matter of record. Elsevier issued an apology for publishing the fake journal for Merck along with 8 others & 13 more in the works
You throw out baseless accusations that I am lying
StopGMO 1 year ago
@StopGMO
Proper studies HAVE been done and they have demonstrated that this tiny minority of anti-vac lunatics is wrong.
ThieleM 11 months ago
@ThieleM You are parrotting the drug industry position or you are a liar
Produce 2 studies that show vaccines are not correlated to autism. List lead authors, sponsors, conflicts. I will demonstrate they are frauds, wrong, irrelevant or too conflicted to be believed
That "tiny minority" you talk about is nearly half the adult population that fear vaccinating their kids, because of facts not fear mongering. The drug industry & the FDA/CDC are the fear mongerers & profiteers
StopGMO 11 months ago
@StopGMO
Actually the parrots are in the anti vac.
And I have a news flash for you: It doesnt matter that 'nearly half' of the adult population is afraid of giving their kids shots (a stat I reject without proper references) one bit. That doesnt make their fears founded. You have just made a logical fallacy.
Why do you need me to produce studies? Do you really think that if you can debunk 2 studies your side wins? Thats funny.
Let me guess....you are also a creationist arent you?
ThieleM 11 months ago
Answer these "mommy"
1. What autism diagnosis does your child have? Be specific
2. Who diagnosed him at 18 mo?
3. You say "I feel bad for any child who's [whose] parents put them at risk like this... it's neglect & child endangerment" Are you talking about vaccination?
4. Why was your child not vaxed until 2y?
5. You say there is no evidence vaccines cause autism. Wrong. Just the timing of vax & autism is enough to require clinical studies
6. Who said I am anti-vax? I want SAFE vaccines
StopGMO 1 year ago 8
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@StopGMO i'm sorry but many studys all over the world have found no links so your conspiracy is complete bs and is endangering children so i hope you feel awful when you realise your wrong
johnnyd101 1 year ago
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Since 1990 pediatric autism diagnosis rose 33 fold. Diagnosis of autistic adults did not
If autism was genetic or if new diagnostics caused the rise the adult population would be as large as the child population. It isn't
The rise was new & rooted in environmental triggers not diagnostic changes or genetics
Mandatory vaccines & toxins are the only known correlation/association increasing in lock step with autism's rise. Clinical study using toxin-free vaccine is needed
StopGMO 1 year ago 13
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She's fine as hell though, who cares if she's stupid.
AvatarOfAvatar 1 year ago
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awesome song. She is cracked.
leendert316 1 year ago
Great song and I think it points out the ignorance of some 'celebrities' like her that can influence people to ignore the scientific and medical world as a whole in favor of celebrity opinion. But, I guess that's called "thinning the herd." If idiots decide to take the written word of one book a celebrity published over years of study in science and medicine, then so be it.
Bear5177 1 year ago
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I think it is wrong to bad mouth Jenny the way that this song does. it mentions Jenny doesnt care if your kids dying, well YES she does! there are children out there that do die as a result of seizures, which are believed to be caused from the toxins in vaccines. I have 2 children with Autism myself and I am not convinced either way. But I have read Jenny's books and know what she and other mothers like her have been through and just think it is wrong to bag her out.
brookeleigh1980 1 year ago
So sorry for what must be so much trauma for your children, but: You said you "believe" the seizures are caused by the vaccines. That's the problem. Science isn't about belief...it's about repeatable tests that verify knowledge. There's no need for a leap of faith...we actually know. Vaccines do not cause autism. It's a pity that anyone, Jenny included, has to go through what you are going through...just don't assign blame where none exists.
Blaine63 1 year ago
@Blaine63 The increase in the # of vaccines & the toxins in them are the only correlation to the 20 year rise in autism. A simple clinical study using toxin-free vaccine would settle the question
If genetics or changing diagnosis were to blame for autism's 20 year rise we would have a matching rise in adult autism diagnosis. We don't.
Blaine's behavior is dispicable, feigning sympathy for the victims of autism, while lying saying science has proved vaccines don't cause autism.
StopGMO 1 year ago 7
Don't think that because you can choose not to vaccinate you can choose not to put them at risk. In fact kids are automatically at far greater risk of pain, disability and death, *until* vaccines take this away and replace it with a risk that is thousands of times less.
People who refuse to use vaccines stupidly risking their children's lives. People like Jenny here do this on a mass scale, which is why there is definitely blood on her hands.
naturalmotionraptor 1 year ago
Thanks! This song hits the nail on the head!
dgeypscun 1 year ago
New Report Says Jenny McCarthys Son May Not Have Had Autism After All
poolerboy0077 1 year ago
they were carefull with measles and mumps, bedrest and drawn curtains but not scared like they were of scarlett fever or thyphoid.
nursing sick children has gone out of fashion and i understand that some people have to work. my mother did. i was lucky there were aunts.
capitalist society is not going to favour time off for parentns to stay with sick kids over making money from vaccines.
sabelmouse 2 years ago
no i did not. i had my children vaccinated against diseases that i think warrant vaccination after carefully reading all that was availble to me and talking to doctors with different opinions.
i am now running an informal survey on mmr to see if other old people have similar memories to maie, that is mmr and chickenpox mainly being a very run of the mill thing that nobody worried unduly about.
sabelmouse 2 years ago
I had chicken pox at 3 (I'm 43 now), but my parents both prayed hard that I'd be okay because I have a neuro condition that can kill me. Thank God, I didn't have problems with it. When the mumps made the rounds, I was the only one spared who hadn't already had it. My sisters both got it...and my dad got it at 35 yo. I remember thinking he'd never get out of bed again. It was very frightening, to say the least. These diseases are MUCH more dangerous when you're older, and VACCS WORK!!!!!!!!
LIZARD110366 1 year ago
Hello,
I have a skeptic podcast in French. Is this song podsafe? Can I use it without copyright issue?
Thanks. Great song :)
JeanMichelAbrassart 2 years ago
Southsider75:
Mercury isn't really that dangerous. As for it being the second most dangerous substance known, that's is just demonstrably wrong. I have can name at least a dozen that are much much more toxic. As could any chemist or biologist.
reallyboringusername 2 years ago
My comment did not read well at all. My point: She goes on and on about how we need to avoid evil toxins at all costs and then runs out and gets botox shot into her face.
Southsider75 2 years ago
Apparently it's only a toxin if it's in a vaccine.
Sometimes I marvel at the fact that people are willing to listen to someone merely because she is semi-famous. If I get into playgirl, does that mean that I should be taken seriously when I rant about string theory?
LOL
reallyboringusername 2 years ago
@Southsider75 and silicone implants.......but she has to get attention somehow since she is not really in big time demand...
jackslicl100 2 years ago
jamieloonam:
Please, don't play the 'Oh, if only he had an autistic kid' card. That is utter bullshit. I am myself an autistic adult. Do I thus pass your credibility test?
Vaccinations have nothing to do with autism, according to all the available evidence. To say otherwise is to fail at both elementary logic and critical thinking simultaneously.
I am sick and tired of seeing autistic people dragged into arguments that are not based on any evidence, and are instead purely political.
reallyboringusername 2 years ago
I'm guessing TheAmateurScientist doesn't have kids, and doesn't know anyone with kids who have autism. Man...if I knew then...there's NO WAY I'd have vaccinated my kids. BTW - mine WERE vaccinated, and still got chicken pox.
jamieloonam 2 years ago
jamieloonam:
There has been numerous studies debunking the claim that there is a link between autism and vaccines. Vaccinations are not 100% guaranteed to prevent a disease in everyone who is vaccinated. After one dose of MMR, approximately 90-95% of children are protected against measles, over 95% against rubella, and 85-90% against mumps. After two doses, almost 100% of people will be protected against all three diseases.
takotheoktopus 2 years ago
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MortQ42 2 years ago
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All of the time that was spent writing this igonorant song, compiling photographs and putting this video together might have been better spent researching the facts, both about vaccines and about measles and mumps incidence among vaccinated populations. JMcCarthy is not anti vaccine, she is just trying to inform people about the real dangers of vaccines, in spite of uninformed comments from people like "amateur scientist".
mateustuff 2 years ago
Funny ...I had measles and mumps and chicken pox as a kid. I was very sick for a week or so and recovered. My son was a normal baby, got his vaccines for measles and mumps and did not speak another word for 4 1/2 years, he now has autism and has never recovered. Would you rather have measles or a life long disability? By the way 85% of the kids who were hospitalized in the last mumps outbreak were vaccinated.
Valmcin 2 years ago
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MortQ42 2 years ago
when i was a child measles mumps and rubella where normal diseases. people took care of their children but they where not terrified.
now suddenly even chickenpocks is " deadly".
sabelmouse 2 years ago
Yeah, I'm sure you thumbed your nose at polio too.
rkzenrage 2 years ago
Valmcin, which outbreak are you talking about? I've been searching through the history of recent outbreaks and in every case the majority of people who fell ill were not vaccinated. In the 2006 US outbreak, only 30% of the victims were vaccinated.
Aside from that, I'm sorry for your son's condition, but anecdotes are not evidence, especially when statistics contradict them.
Hooya2 2 years ago 2
Ha, Ha... This video is great!! And to menlomana... I love the comment "No studies exist proving vaccines work." I was dying laughing!! Ask smallpox if vaccines work. Oh wait, it's been eradicated......
sherimes 2 years ago 4
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Autism is due to environmental damage. It may be from vaxes, toxins in the air, water and food, many sources. Research before commenting.
menlomama 2 years ago
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How ignorant. I feel sorry for people who don't get it. Ultimately the public will wake up. But by then it may be too late to avoid the massive vaccine induced reactions that are becoming the diseases that plague our generation - autism among them. I most pity the children, the innocent victims. No studies exist proving vaccines work. Ask your doctor. Last year's measles outbreak hit vaxed kids. Rx manufacturers play on fear to sell drugs. Look at chicken pox. Why a vax? We all had it as kids.
menlomama 2 years ago
Most people in the population are vaccinated. You're just harping on a specific section which correlates, but with nothing that shows causation. How much you want to bet 100% of those who were hit by the outbreak also breathed before catching it. "Research before commenting" good advice.
Cyrathil 2 years ago
Excellent! A well sharpened point.
winstonsmith00 2 years ago
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Jenny is the greatest and most beautiful woman who ever walked the earth, this video is stupid and disgusting...1 star.
skullvomit666 2 years ago
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Are you an idiot? Do you research first. She isnt opposed to vaccines. She does, however, want SAFE vaccines. Who doesnt. Let's see 1 in 150 diagnosed with autism.......hello idiot!!! These children were perfectly healthy until they received their shots. .........come on, use some common sense. I guess your children were the lucky ones.
349031 2 years ago
Actually, she has changed her stance several times. Also, I have worked with several autistic kids who hadn't received the suspect shots.
There are so many things that need to be considered and researched. It is really dangerous to get your info from a bunny. There actually is a lot of exciting research about autism out there. It just doesn't get press b/c the educated people who relay the info don't cause scenes and demand attention for themselves.
Southsider75 2 years ago
Actually Scientific Data currently proves that current vaccines are not the cause of Autism. Although the chemicals they add due poss a serious health risk. Tell you what, you skip vaccines and when the next serious wave of deadly disease comes around we won't have to worry about you crying and calling people idiots. Showing your lack of education and belief in common mania is not very becoming.
jasonmathias 2 years ago
Insufficient to point to it conclusively, yes. However, if you had the slightest inclination of how natural selection works, or what the nature of the Autistic sensory perception is, you would not be so quick to discount the possibility. If you were up to date on the genome studies, you would also know that the higher functioning forms are becoming more prevalent. I may turn out to be incorrect, but it is you who is unable to see beyond the confines of his own, limited understanding.
bosn101 2 years ago
Wow, my intellect is being insulted by a self professed sniffer of glue. Genetic mutation is how evolution occurs. Obviously something has been found to be desirable because more people are mating with Autistics, producing offspring on he spectrum. Try reading Darwin.
bosn101 2 years ago
This has got to be the biggest piece of garbage I've seen yet. A. The question isn't NO vaccines, it is SAFE vaccines. If you listened, you would know that.
B. I am fully vaccinated & yet have had whooping cough. So, vaccines are not the be all & end all.
C. Do your own research & make your own decisions. Don't let one celebrity (Amanda Peet or Jenny McCarthy) make a decision "for" you.
SinclairHalls 2 years ago
Bravo! Great video. thanks
beastlt12 2 years ago
Thank you :-)
Great song!
TrishG72 2 years ago
Jenny McCarthy is perhaps the biggest idiot on the face of the Earth. Maternal instincts do not make you an expert. She is probably after publicity. On her Opera appearance, she said that her son was diagnosed in only 5 minutes when in reality, it takes months or years to diagnose.
aspie101 2 years ago
Whatever. Sabotage the human race. The genetic mutation that is autism is becoming more and more common. Run puny humans, evolution won't be stopped. Welcome to the future of the species.
bosn101 2 years ago
Ah, no the definition for the spectrum of symptoms which are called autism has grown, making it appear as if autism has increased when actually the instances have remained constant.
wheelst 2 years ago
Thank you! I try to explain this to people and no one wants to listen. Twenty years ago my son would've just been and late talker who was really shy and quiet. Today, he has an autism spectrum disorder. I'm sure if I was a child today I would have a place on the spectrum too.
TrishG72 2 years ago
I will listen. Explain it to me.
thejanitor99 2 years ago
What I dislike most about JM is that she rejects her child as "abnormal" because he has autism. She forces this poor child to undergo horrific unproven therapies (that cause him to vomit for hours). What if autism IS normal? how about all the great people like Temple Gradin that are autistic and contribute.Different doesn't always need to be "fixed". Accept,love, and adapt.If only she knew life is richer with autism, more difficult yes, but richer. Want a perfect baby, adopt one Jenny!
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ADELLEFane5130 2 years ago
Myso believes their son is vaccine damaged, existing evidence supports this.
An honest Dr once said "There is no such thing as a safe vaccine"
leadingladyj 2 years ago
well no, there is no such thing as a safe medicine. Certainly the nutty treatments Jenny is trying aren't safe. But vaccines are safer than measles.
kittinh 2 years ago 3
YOUR STUDIES ARE MANUFACTURED!!!!!!
go to the google video post below
spend some time with your precious studies... they are lies created by men in rooms
listen to the nice doctor... hear his words then mark mine:
you will be proven wrong and when that day comes think of me and my son and all the children your mouth may have risked a lifetime of challenges.
GREEN VACCINES!
JENNY RULES!
I LOVE MOTHER'S WITH INSTINCTS!!!!!!!!!
PEACE OUT IDIOTS,
my you all contaminate yourselves with MERCURY!!!
mysol96 2 years ago
Great mysol. But formaldehyde is a ubiquitous chemical. In fact, babies naturally make formaldehyde, and tend to have much more in their bloodstream at any given time than we inject with a vaccine. And of course, there's no evidence that formaldehyde causes autism, or any other mental illness.
And why, when you were discussing the toxicity of mercury, did you cite the stats for methylmercury? Don't you know that ethylmercury is the stuff used in vaccines?
Hooya2 2 years ago 3
@Hooya2 another shill, heartless too, attacking a distraught mother with dis-information
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The only stats available are for methylmercury. That is the standard used by the CDC and FDA when guesstimating the risk of thimerosal in vaccines.
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Our bodies making formaldehyde is one of the studpidest remarks I have ever heard. You must be confused sweetie. the only way formaldehyde gets into a normal person is from the breakdown of aspartame, and this causes serious neurological side effects
JustTheTruth2 1 year ago
wow...you are such a good God loving person huh? Hello? If my kid is fine I'm ok with everyone else dying...plus wanting people to DIE from mercury poisoning? Which isn't in vaccines anymore? Hello? Your selfish unChristian behavior is typical of the California woo "me first" generation.
kittinh 2 years ago
video (dot)google(dot)com/videosearch?q=182%20million%20vaccines&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wv#
mysol96 2 years ago
Google Video: Mercury, Autism and the Global Vaccine Agenda
Just How Much Mercury?
.5cc contains 25mcg of Mercury
Toxicity =2 ppm in Water, 200 ppm toxic waste, 730 ppm fish,
so that .5cc shot contains 50,000ppm if the doctor dropped the vial on the floor it would be Haz Mat!
watch the video... we are everyday people we are not dumb. we understand like all things there are risks, we just don't like that our children are taking a risk that includes brain injury...
mysol96 2 years ago
People who think that mother's who are concerned about what is in vaccinations don't "trust modern day medicine" are way out of line. How dare you insinuate that we don't have a grasp on it because we choose to disagree with you. You have a God complex that is really undeserved.
mysol96 2 years ago
Mysol, I want to be clear; the reason I think you don't have a grasp on basic science is because you've repeatedly made stupid arguments, not because you disagree with me. I mean, you've seriously abused the guilt by association fallacy so many times, and made so many basic mistakes--like trying to equate ethyl- and methylmercury--that it's pretty obvious that you're incompetent.
Hooya2 2 years ago 3
Hey all you Pro Vax people have you ever thought
A non-vaccinated child cannot put vaccinated children at risk if the vaccines are effective. In fact, it is the vaccinated children who expose other children to increased risk. This has been confirmed again and again in outbreaks where a majority of the affected children were recently vaccinated. So what are you worried about? If your precious vaccines are so great, then you shouldnt worry about all those Moms I am influencing to ask for Safer vac
mysol96 2 years ago
"it is the vaccinated children who expose other children to increased risk"
AKA Vaccine Shedding .... it has long been known that vaccines can cause the diseases they were meant to immunise against.
leadingladyj 2 years ago
So then why has every study conducted on the issue of vaccines and autism concluded that there is zero causal link between them? And why haven't any of these studies found any sort of link at all? Does this say something to you at all? And did you know that the whole anti-vax movement came into existence as the result of one study published in the UK in the 90s, a study that we now know faked all of their data?
cherryberry360 2 years ago 3
And also, I think the reason that those of us who trust modern day medicine are so disgusted with people who are anti-vax is not because we worry that you'll be putting our vaccinated kids at a huge risk, but because way too many of your kids die unneccessarily, as a result of diseases that we, in the 21st century, are perfectly capable of preventing with reliable, effective, and safe methods.
cherryberry360 2 years ago 2
Like the superbugs that are created by these great docs that prescribed too many antibiotics. Like when the US Govt sent my dad cigarettes in Vietnam and sprayed him with agent orange. He has diabetes and heart disease and almost died last year as a result of the 'safe' things the US govt now knows is deadly. Do us all a favor and leave our children to us. We are perfectly capable of determining what is best. Do you attack mothers that bottle feed too? Go AWAY.
I am NOT anti Vaccine!!!!!!!
mysol96 2 years ago
Haha - superbugs come about because of people who, like yourself, seem to be completely scientifically illiterate and don't finish theirs because they feel better. And some people may not have known about the dangers of cigarettes. Then they did a bunch of studies, and found out how bad they were. Vaccines and autism -- lots of studies, no risk of getting one from the other. Do some actual research. You don't know a thing about vaccines, and you're doing your kids a disservice.
cherryberry360 2 years ago 3
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You are freaking Canadian! Socialist medicine please! Forgive me while I laugh at your contradictions! "And some people may not have known about the dangers of cigarettes"
HA HA HA
Like they don't know now the dangers of vaccines!
"In the 1950s, responding to the first widely publicized studies finding a link between smoking and lung cancer, the industry adopted a skeptical posture that was initially reasonable but has long since become a joke."
My father was in Nam in 1968!!!!!!!!
The US knew!
mysol96 2 years ago
You seem to have a really hard time wrangling with the fact that zero scientific studies find causal correlation between vaccines and autism, which I keep saying, but apparently you can't quite grasp the idea of. Good luck with your kids, I hope they never have to suffer from measles, mumps, rubella, whooping cough or polio because of your philosophical position.
And yeah, I'm Canadian, and love not having to pay thousands for simple medical treatments.
cherryberry360 2 years ago 3
"Julie Gerberding, the head of the CDC, went on CNN's House Call with Dr. Sanjay Gupta to discuss the Hannah Poling case and admitted that vaccines cause autism"
Check morepuppies youtube site at about 3:32 into the 10:00 video of CNN footage.
By the way I have a degree in biological and chemical sciences.
"Poorly written" because it was quoted from video of the Chief of the CDC in an interview!
mysol96 2 years ago
Dr. Julie Gerberding, the head of the CDC:
"My understanding if your child has a mitochondrial disorder if your child has this disease anything that stresses them creates a situation where their cells cant make enough energy to keep their brains functioning normally and if your child is immunized and the gets a fever or other complications and your child is predisposed than it can set off some damage some of the symptoms can have characteristics of autism."
CDC Chief admits vaccines cause autism
mysol96 2 years ago
@mysol96: That was so poorly written that I highly doubt it was a direct quote. I'd like to read it for myself -- where did you get it from?
cherryberry360 2 years ago
Formaldehyde:
weakens the immune system, causes neurological system damage, genetic damage, metabolic acidosis, circulatory shock, respiratory insufficiency and acute renal failure, can make you sensitive to many other things, it is corrosive if ingested, and it is a suspected carcinogen. Oncologist implied that formaldehyde in vaccines may be a trigger for leukemia.
Again why wouldn't I be overjoyed to inject my infant with this 'naturally occurring' substance!!
mysol96 2 years ago
Does makes the poison
Heraldblog 2 years ago
@mysol96: You do know that formaldehyde is produced in our bodies, about 50g/day - significantly less than what is found in vaccines. It's in our blood, as it's an intermediate in the oxidation of many carbon compounds. Any MSDS sheet will tell you: "Health effects associated with formaldehyde exposure are most likely to occur at body sites which have direct contact with this chemical: the eyes, nose and throat." You should be more concerned about the diseases these vaccines protect against.
cherryberry360 2 years ago 2
Autism & Vaccines: Hannah Poling On Good Morning America > YouTube
leadingladyj 2 years ago
"I believe that Vaccines have a link to autism"
Recent studies have suggested "autism" might be linked to dysfunction of the mitochondria. New evidence has raised the possibility this dysfunction may be one of the keys that link the many diverse symptoms seen in "autism" Also evidence is growing for acquired, rather than a genetically inherited cause.
leadingladyj 2 years ago
What in the 21st century is anyone doing taking medical advice from a women who is famous for posing naked in Playboy, picking her nose on MTV, and being Jim Carrey's girlfriend. A few minutes of Googling does not equal a medical degree, make her any kind of authority on the subject, or even give her basic scientific literacy.
Great song btw!!
cherryberry360 2 years ago
Cherry I take medical advice from my doctor. I am a mother and my instinct counts for something. You have no right to judge me or anyone else. Vaccinate your children with the crap for all I care... they are your children. But DONT judge a woman who stands on her box and tells the world that her son is ill and demands to know why. NONE of you can tell me why my child is sick either... until you can SHUT UP!
mysol96 2 years ago
As far as medicine goes, your motherly instinct actually doesn't count for anything. The facts count. And when there are absolutely zero facts linking vaccines and autism in a causal relationship, saying otherwise is a lie, plain and simple. I would never judge a mother demanding to know why her child is ill. But I do judge people who are scientifically illiterate and prefer to latch onto weird conspiracy theories instead of doing anything helpful about REAL problems.
cherryberry360 2 years ago
Yes it does since I have sole decision on what medical choices affect my children.
There are plenty of facts you just don't see them.
I am not scientifically illiterate; you will have to make a better argument than that. Weird conspiracy theories: heavy metal toxicity (ie mercury) causes the exact same symptoms as autism
What is it to you if I don't like today's vaccines. Why must you push your thoughts on me and your insults
If you are worried about my children make a donation to autism speaks
mysol96 2 years ago
Mysol, I always find it hilarious when anti-vaccinationists try to equate vaccines with smoking. After all, the exact same epidemiological techniques that determined smoking was bad, when applied to vaccines, have determined that they don't cause autism. Can't you taste the irony?
Hooya2 2 years ago 3
wow, but you are asking people to send money to "science" that is flawed. It's like "send money to the blood letting society". And why is autism so "wrong" and bad? Bill Gates is slightly autistic (aspergers). We wouldn't have the computer like we have today if not for the different way autistics think. They aren't drooling idiots you know. You are SO prejudiced.
kittinh 2 years ago
Bill Gates does not have Aspergers syndrome. Aspergers doesn't give you an alien perspective anyway; it makes you focus on a particular subject very intensely at the expense of most others. Most people with Aspergers syndrome also aren't interested in cutting edge tech that will revolutionize science and industry; a lot are obsessed with relatively useless crap. Bill Gates also played a very minor role in the development of PCs. He's more of an entrepreneur than inventor.
KittehBubbles 2 years ago
You can't tell us why your child is sick, either. Please take your own advice.
fatherdaddy1 2 years ago
Jenny McCarthy is a scary lady.
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Sorry lady, but there is no evidence linking any vaccinations with autism, at all. In fact, every study published on the issue has entirely disproved any causal relationship.
It is true that sometimes there may be side effects from some vaccines, in rare, susceptible people. Jenny McCarthy wants a vaccine that is 100% effective and 100% safe. That is not going to happen in this universe.
cherryberry360 2 years ago 2
Previous posts taken from Robert F Kennedy Jr.'s Deadly Immunity Rolling Stone June 20, 2005.
In studying the Amish community (they don't vaccinate) Dan Olmstead found:
"Given the national rate of autism, Olmsted calculated that there should be 130 autistics among the Amish. He found only four. One had been exposed to high levels of mercury from a power plant. The other three -- including one child adopted from outside the Amish community -- had received their vaccines.
WOW
mysol96 2 years ago
You do realize, though, that since Amish people do not consider some symptoms of the largest growth of autism (aspberger's) as any sort of mental defect that those results could be misleading. In fact, until the new DSM, many of those symptoms would have classified a child "Oppositional Defiant" etc.. in other words, they would have just been seen as unruly..
tmservo 2 years ago
the study checked into that. For all children in the Amish community only 4 had any neuro-toxin symptoms. No others exhibited any signs classic to autism or add/adhd, sensory integration dysfunction etc...to me that says something.
I think we should check ALL theories, turn over every stone. Maybe the reason some kids get autism and some kids don't has to do with their bodies being able to create the antibody when the shot is administered. My son was ill or recovering every time he got a shot.
mysol96 2 years ago
"In studying the Amish community (they don't vaccinate)..."
Most Amish DO vaccinate.
"...Dan Olmstead found..."
Cite the paper.
"...a level 99 times greater than the EPA's limit for daily exposure to methylmercury, a related neurotoxin."
Related how? Because they both have mercury? Come on, you'll have to do better than that; you might as well try to imply that water is flammable because it contains hydrogen.
Hooya2 2 years ago
Although the vaccine industry insists that ethylmercury poses little danger because it breaks down rapidly and is removed by the body, several studies -- including one published in April by the National Institutes of Health -- suggest that ethylmercury is actually more toxic to developing brains and stays in the brain longer than methylmercury.
mysol96 2 years ago
But by that time, the damage was done. At two months, when the infant brain is still at a critical stage of development, infants routinely received three inoculations that contained a total of 62.5 micrograms of ethylmercury -- a level 99 times greater than the EPA's limit for daily exposure to methylmercury, a related neurotoxin.
mysol96 2 years ago
"You couldn't even construct a study that shows thimerosal is safe," says Haley, who heads the chemistry department at the University of Kentucky. "It's just too darn toxic. If you inject thimerosal into an animal, its brain will sicken. If you apply it to living tissue, the cells die. If you put it in a petri dish, the culture dies. Knowing these things, it would be shocking if one could inject it into an infant without causing damage."
mysol96 2 years ago
"Some skeptics dispute that the rise in autism is caused by thimerosal-tainted vaccinations. They argue that the increase is a result of better diagnosis -- a theory that seems questionable at best, given that most of the new cases of autism are clustered within a single generation of children."Robert F Kennedy Jr.
mysol96 2 years ago
Rep. Dan Burton, a Republican from Indiana, oversaw a three-year investigation "Thimerosal used as a preservative in vaccines is directly related to the autism epidemic," his House Government Reform Committee concluded in its final report.
"This epidemic in all probability may have been prevented or curtailed had the FDA not been asleep at the switch regarding a lack of safety data regarding injected thimerosal, a known neurotoxin."
~Robert F Kennedy Jr.
mysol96 2 years ago
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