mass confusion she was in.....in her final room we see the most violent part of the storm (a final conflict of her belifs) and the flahing pictures shows her bloody and then bubbles...meaning she might have commited suicide to see if her god was really there or just be be with her god
Rose wasnt "disillusioned persay (in my interpretation) the lake represented a cloudy view...she believed (religious) but things were contridicting (school, science or other ppl) but she always held on and dreamt of floating (being with "god" and flying in heaven) the stormy weather in the house might have been a storm of controversy...her belief and science, other peoples belief, or her own doubts..that cloud zombie could have represented her "god" reassuring her she will float even in the
I think you were right about her being delusional, you said that she might have mistaken mist for the cloud zombie. I think she was imagining herself floating, or she hallucinated it. I think that she tried to fly, jumped in the water, and drowned. I think the whole sequence with rose was a hallucination, and that she was dead the entire time, that's why she said she was afraid of water, but that's just my interpretation.
I personally think rose is purposely ignorant.She's "opened her eyes" to everything and basically not everything is nice and fun so she would rather fly off to la-la land rather then stay and deal with it.I think she's also paranoid but hides it well, not to mention her wolf looks like a skinless person so I also think she cant quite "sit in her own skin" with the world as it is so she dreams up places to be where everything is all perfect rather then face the harsher more judgmental world.
I thought that Rose wasn't delusional, but a dreamer. She doesn't like reality, so she escapes by "floating" through life in a dreamlike fashion. The water (rain) could represent tears. Reality scares her, or makes her sad, (the death of her father, maybe, like you talked about earlier) so she makes her own reality.
what she said could just be her sense of being protective towards the innocence of her little sisters. kinda like how a mother would be to her daughters.
afterall, we all see what happened to carmen and ruby.
rose is probably just in a stage were she needs to decide on religion herself, she needs to think for herself not just believing everything she is told and being impressionable to everything, I think her cloud represents her mental conflict between her reality and spirtual were can she really believe in her religion and the conflict it causes wether she actually believes in religion when mature and not just believing it because shes a naive child thats impressionable.
whoops for the comment about sexism i meant scarlet.
as for rose, i think she questioned her beliefs.
she saw a skull. but she bury it and said the soul goes elsewhere. i think her story simply spoke about that time in life people begin questioning about what's good / bad or right / wrong and what happens after we die.
her room being all crazy could represent the confusion she's facing because of her thoughts.
different from robin who didn't question death but accepted its presence instead.
I think rose might have had schizophrenia and is very impressionable, She seems to also be trying some sort of religion or spirituality like Hinduism or Christianity or Some of the other various religions that feature spirituality.
Having listened to this, this is the conclusion I have come to. Rose is very impressionable so she sees beauty in everything. She wants to do everything and be everyone because she is so swept up in other people's passion. However, in the end, she lost touch with what emotions were her's and what was someone else's and she didn't know who she was anymore. Perhaps she turned to religion to find out.
Rose's is definitely representative of a deity. It is never explicitly demonstrated, kind of like Islamic tradition i.e. not depicting the prophets and it floats in a position representative of christ on the cross, hence the blood. the floating is a religious or spiritual view of the world.
Maybe she's trying too hard to be optimistic and reality is clashing with that. Sometimes she seems to be dragged down to reality, display longing (like with the birds). She probably has trouble with making decisions too, in being solid. She might have trouble taking care of herself in the "real world."
I think Rose maybe had an experience with death, like Robin. Maybe her spirituality is an attempt to accept death, but she still remains afraid. She tries to find some comfort, something beyond death, but remains terrified of the possibility of it. And maybe she never recovered and that's what her inability to deal with reality come from. Her style of dress and actions seem to be "soft" like... the saying "too pure for the world." Cont next post.
I kinda think considering roses age her end was her more of her going through her period like the bathrooms could be she started at school and dosent know what to do and the cloud man (lol) was literaly i think her period coming because of course with the blood running down his leg as for the fog in her room maybe it was her covering up the fact she was growing up.....
Maybe... All the things that made the girls grow up, was something that happened to their sisters? They saw the thing happen to one of the others, and it made them realize something and/or scare them. Just a thought.
The room in Rose's house that flooded and had so many doors, coupled with the fact that she holds a white rabbit in the character selection screen, reminded me of Alice in Wonderland, the chapter in the book about the pool of tears.
Rose reminds me of Beth from "Little Women". They are the same age and both love small animals. They both don't have strong opinions, almost subservient. They both seem fragile/ weak and in the background of the other girls. In "Little Women", Beth dies (only sister in the book that dies), because of a cold and also because she feels overwhelmed by the strong personalities and ambitions of her sisters.
Religion and/or spirituality and mental illness are close cousins (I am religious, before you grow upset - I simply state statistics). Get caught up in one, and it is very easy to slip into the other, unless you are able to find something to "ground" yourself (metaphor intentional).
You think because Rose drowned the blue in her flashes may represent hypotheremia b/c Carmen said it was cold & The cloud entity may be a mix of the cold water & air being out of reach. or distorted confusion. Also the person who made them die/ transform's the wolf so maybe the entity could be a force of nature because a human didn't kill her. But at the same time she could've saw it while she was high {the needle} so the wolf could be the delusion that pushed her over the edge.
There's a possibility I'm thinking of regarding the room with the red doors and the rising water. The doors could have represented a multitude of choices- blank doors representing no idea of what those choices would lead to- and the rising water could represent dwindling time in which to make those choices. The fact that Ruby simply ran past the doors could mean that she couldn't handle making any of the choices and instead ran through life without confronting any of them.
Water has been used to represent rebirth, which would be appropriate since she wishes to be a higher being. The fish in rivers have also been known to represent Jesus Christ, who was supposed to be a higher being.
I agree about Rose being the most difficult to interpret. I've heard the idea that her desire to fly is related to a quest for transcendence, for spirituality. To attain a higher, purer life. She's very kind-hearted and gentle, so this makes sense for her. I don't see it as delusional as much as wishful. Her wolf seemed the least negative to me.
Rose, I believe, is not delusional, per say. I think that what she is is impressionable. VERY impressionable. She probably gets confused easily.
According to her little bio in the official website, Rose has "opened her eyes" and saw that the entire world was beautiful. And she'll defend it all with her own body. The problem here is that she's only a little girl.
With Rose, I think she's the moth and the mysterious of the world is her flame. As for the bathroom scene...No idea.
Yeah maybe her wolf was the storm cloud. lik cat said her life spun out of control. Why do you think the ceiling fan was spinning on the flir in the first room. The living room? Ginger seemed to be the only girl running around barefoot.
I think the whole floating thing could be tied with death, as the float away to Heaven. Possibly shown with the floating zombie. But with the bird on the table, representing the freedom to float. But since she was a kid, imagination was everywhere, so that could go with the hallutionations. As for the end room with the hurricane and the storm, it is possible that she died from her hallutionation draging her to the lake, and being killed by a storm of some sort.
this is random but: does any one know the name of the anime with lil' slugger, the kid with the golden metal baseball bat and skates who kills people?
I think the storm-theme for Rose could mean that she's confused being in an age between being a child and a teenager. A lot new emotion, new impressions await her.
So the water could represent her fear of losing herself in the depts of confusion.
She likes floating maybe because she is above the water and not being able to drown in it.
But then she is in danger of confusion (the storm).
Ah the bird thing made me think that maybe it was envy. I'm pretty sure about a story about snakes wishing to be birds for the freedom of flight and talent but disregards its own talent (like some snakes swim) another story says being pure makes the snake a dragon so envy may work for Rose
i think the water may be to do with un wanted pregnancy for example ( or another wierdy teenage mess up)
they looked like school bathrooms so maybe a school event?
that bed was in it at the end spinning around
suggesting that her life is turned upside down. the spinning figure in the lake, a person she asspiers to be? or a roll model she wants to be like but fails. and goes to extreams to fit in
For scarlet i got the sense that her death could've been suicide, from what Katrinonous said about her making a fool of herself at her recital. That coupled with the stress of handling the rest of the children could've driven her to that edge. That's what i got out of it.
I assumed that her wolf was her own drowned body.
AliceOfPorcelain 4 days ago
wish i knew alot more about the grandma, that was interesting..
Sillilesshells 2 weeks ago
mass confusion she was in.....in her final room we see the most violent part of the storm (a final conflict of her belifs) and the flahing pictures shows her bloody and then bubbles...meaning she might have commited suicide to see if her god was really there or just be be with her god
TsukkomiWakkaInc 1 month ago
Rose wasnt "disillusioned persay (in my interpretation) the lake represented a cloudy view...she believed (religious) but things were contridicting (school, science or other ppl) but she always held on and dreamt of floating (being with "god" and flying in heaven) the stormy weather in the house might have been a storm of controversy...her belief and science, other peoples belief, or her own doubts..that cloud zombie could have represented her "god" reassuring her she will float even in the
TsukkomiWakkaInc 1 month ago
That also explains all the water you see after the lake scene.
MrWkersey 2 months ago
I think you were right about her being delusional, you said that she might have mistaken mist for the cloud zombie. I think she was imagining herself floating, or she hallucinated it. I think that she tried to fly, jumped in the water, and drowned. I think the whole sequence with rose was a hallucination, and that she was dead the entire time, that's why she said she was afraid of water, but that's just my interpretation.
MrWkersey 2 months ago
Games like this makes you think...
EmpoleonRider 6 months ago 2
@EmpoleonRider And they say video games are mindless!
KeybladerStorm 6 months ago
@KeybladerStorm I'm with you bro.
EmpoleonRider 6 months ago
I personally think rose is purposely ignorant.She's "opened her eyes" to everything and basically not everything is nice and fun so she would rather fly off to la-la land rather then stay and deal with it.I think she's also paranoid but hides it well, not to mention her wolf looks like a skinless person so I also think she cant quite "sit in her own skin" with the world as it is so she dreams up places to be where everything is all perfect rather then face the harsher more judgmental world.
mak564kvavlem59999 6 months ago
I thought that Rose wasn't delusional, but a dreamer. She doesn't like reality, so she escapes by "floating" through life in a dreamlike fashion. The water (rain) could represent tears. Reality scares her, or makes her sad, (the death of her father, maybe, like you talked about earlier) so she makes her own reality.
MafiaCupcake 8 months ago
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MafiaCupcake 8 months ago
well the bathroom has to do with water
Imadeupsomething 9 months ago
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LeRach 10 months ago
i dont think rose is sexist.
what she said could just be her sense of being protective towards the innocence of her little sisters. kinda like how a mother would be to her daughters.
afterall, we all see what happened to carmen and ruby.
AxAie 10 months ago
rose is probably just in a stage were she needs to decide on religion herself, she needs to think for herself not just believing everything she is told and being impressionable to everything, I think her cloud represents her mental conflict between her reality and spirtual were can she really believe in her religion and the conflict it causes wether she actually believes in religion when mature and not just believing it because shes a naive child thats impressionable.
patsybob 1 year ago
whoops for the comment about sexism i meant scarlet.
as for rose, i think she questioned her beliefs.
she saw a skull. but she bury it and said the soul goes elsewhere. i think her story simply spoke about that time in life people begin questioning about what's good / bad or right / wrong and what happens after we die.
her room being all crazy could represent the confusion she's facing because of her thoughts.
different from robin who didn't question death but accepted its presence instead.
AxAie 10 months ago
i kept getting so freaked out cause im listening to this while playing cosmic break and i could not figure out anything
owlflame 1 year ago
I think rose might have had schizophrenia and is very impressionable, She seems to also be trying some sort of religion or spirituality like Hinduism or Christianity or Some of the other various religions that feature spirituality.
mak564kvavlem59999 1 year ago
Having listened to this, this is the conclusion I have come to. Rose is very impressionable so she sees beauty in everything. She wants to do everything and be everyone because she is so swept up in other people's passion. However, in the end, she lost touch with what emotions were her's and what was someone else's and she didn't know who she was anymore. Perhaps she turned to religion to find out.
ScarletDavies 1 year ago
Rose might be autistic.
XJAYSAVAGEX 1 year ago 3
Rose's is definitely representative of a deity. It is never explicitly demonstrated, kind of like Islamic tradition i.e. not depicting the prophets and it floats in a position representative of christ on the cross, hence the blood. the floating is a religious or spiritual view of the world.
Johnlennonspackage 1 year ago 4
bloody limbs lik jesus on the cross, martyrdom or soemthing lik tht lol idk it just reminded me of how jesus would b on the cross lol
sage468 1 year ago
I loved what you did with Rose and it made since :) Good job
supperchibirobogirl6 1 year ago
Maybe she's trying too hard to be optimistic and reality is clashing with that. Sometimes she seems to be dragged down to reality, display longing (like with the birds). She probably has trouble with making decisions too, in being solid. She might have trouble taking care of herself in the "real world."
ashptc 1 year ago
I think Rose maybe had an experience with death, like Robin. Maybe her spirituality is an attempt to accept death, but she still remains afraid. She tries to find some comfort, something beyond death, but remains terrified of the possibility of it. And maybe she never recovered and that's what her inability to deal with reality come from. Her style of dress and actions seem to be "soft" like... the saying "too pure for the world." Cont next post.
ashptc 1 year ago
I kinda think considering roses age her end was her more of her going through her period like the bathrooms could be she started at school and dosent know what to do and the cloud man (lol) was literaly i think her period coming because of course with the blood running down his leg as for the fog in her room maybe it was her covering up the fact she was growing up.....
crazyskatergurl 1 year ago 7
Maybe... All the things that made the girls grow up, was something that happened to their sisters? They saw the thing happen to one of the others, and it made them realize something and/or scare them. Just a thought.
HunnyMomiji 1 year ago
The room in Rose's house that flooded and had so many doors, coupled with the fact that she holds a white rabbit in the character selection screen, reminded me of Alice in Wonderland, the chapter in the book about the pool of tears.
adiansbane 1 year ago 4
I definitely feel Rose represented letting go of fantasy and perhaps religious belief.
3goodtimes 1 year ago
could roses corridor before the death room be in a dark tunnel with a light at the end of it as in going to heaven
ChillyMan5 1 year ago
I think Rose was terminally ill and seeing the ghost on the lake is a metaphor for her giving into dying.
Niteangel100 1 year ago
Rose reminds me of Beth from "Little Women". They are the same age and both love small animals. They both don't have strong opinions, almost subservient. They both seem fragile/ weak and in the background of the other girls. In "Little Women", Beth dies (only sister in the book that dies), because of a cold and also because she feels overwhelmed by the strong personalities and ambitions of her sisters.
Niteangel100 1 year ago
Religion and/or spirituality and mental illness are close cousins (I am religious, before you grow upset - I simply state statistics). Get caught up in one, and it is very easy to slip into the other, unless you are able to find something to "ground" yourself (metaphor intentional).
gidkath 2 years ago 5
lol @ 1:20 interpritate?
gl1tchxX 2 years ago
You think because Rose drowned the blue in her flashes may represent hypotheremia b/c Carmen said it was cold & The cloud entity may be a mix of the cold water & air being out of reach. or distorted confusion. Also the person who made them die/ transform's the wolf so maybe the entity could be a force of nature because a human didn't kill her. But at the same time she could've saw it while she was high {the needle} so the wolf could be the delusion that pushed her over the edge.
Firewitch1207 2 years ago 3
Just to say i dont think any of them really die i think its a life change event tearing away the old person.
Theyll never be the same
excandersham 2 years ago 5
I think rose is dying of aterminal illness alot of her dialogues involve death in a spiritual way and not a morbid one.
I think the room at the end represents her death floating by being one with nature i.e being part of the mist.
excandersham 2 years ago
There's a possibility I'm thinking of regarding the room with the red doors and the rising water. The doors could have represented a multitude of choices- blank doors representing no idea of what those choices would lead to- and the rising water could represent dwindling time in which to make those choices. The fact that Ruby simply ran past the doors could mean that she couldn't handle making any of the choices and instead ran through life without confronting any of them.
TheRogueWolf 2 years ago
Oops. I meant Rose, not Ruby.
TheRogueWolf 2 years ago
Water has been used to represent rebirth, which would be appropriate since she wishes to be a higher being. The fish in rivers have also been known to represent Jesus Christ, who was supposed to be a higher being.
Bobgoober16 2 years ago 3
I agree about Rose being the most difficult to interpret. I've heard the idea that her desire to fly is related to a quest for transcendence, for spirituality. To attain a higher, purer life. She's very kind-hearted and gentle, so this makes sense for her. I don't see it as delusional as much as wishful. Her wolf seemed the least negative to me.
ArtOfMe021 2 years ago 18
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ArtOfMe021 2 years ago
Hmm...
Rose, I believe, is not delusional, per say. I think that what she is is impressionable. VERY impressionable. She probably gets confused easily.
According to her little bio in the official website, Rose has "opened her eyes" and saw that the entire world was beautiful. And she'll defend it all with her own body. The problem here is that she's only a little girl.
With Rose, I think she's the moth and the mysterious of the world is her flame. As for the bathroom scene...No idea.
MysteriousEnigmaZ 2 years ago 20
Yeah maybe her wolf was the storm cloud. lik cat said her life spun out of control. Why do you think the ceiling fan was spinning on the flir in the first room. The living room? Ginger seemed to be the only girl running around barefoot.
Mikato1 2 years ago
I think the whole floating thing could be tied with death, as the float away to Heaven. Possibly shown with the floating zombie. But with the bird on the table, representing the freedom to float. But since she was a kid, imagination was everywhere, so that could go with the hallutionations. As for the end room with the hurricane and the storm, it is possible that she died from her hallutionation draging her to the lake, and being killed by a storm of some sort.
fearstar31 2 years ago
this is random but: does any one know the name of the anime with lil' slugger, the kid with the golden metal baseball bat and skates who kills people?
the question seems apropriot for the situation
SonicNerd91 2 years ago
Paranoia Agent with I remember right, a great show.
123whee 2 years ago 4
I think the storm-theme for Rose could mean that she's confused being in an age between being a child and a teenager. A lot new emotion, new impressions await her.
So the water could represent her fear of losing herself in the depts of confusion.
She likes floating maybe because she is above the water and not being able to drown in it.
But then she is in danger of confusion (the storm).
Just my analysis of her^^
ShitoKaworu 2 years ago
maybe rose got suck into a hurricane i guess which represents confusion.
if i just repeated what you said im sorry
SonicNerd91 2 years ago
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Xzariox 2 years ago
Ah the bird thing made me think that maybe it was envy. I'm pretty sure about a story about snakes wishing to be birds for the freedom of flight and talent but disregards its own talent (like some snakes swim) another story says being pure makes the snake a dragon so envy may work for Rose
Blazeboy66 2 years ago 3
O and Katrinonous was talking about the urns... In rubys one...
Cloud2080 2 years ago
So Rose is scitsophrenic?
Im sure she drowned... So maybe so thought she was floating/able to float and yet fell into the water and drowned?
Cloud2080 2 years ago
i think the water may be to do with un wanted pregnancy for example ( or another wierdy teenage mess up)
they looked like school bathrooms so maybe a school event?
that bed was in it at the end spinning around
suggesting that her life is turned upside down. the spinning figure in the lake, a person she asspiers to be? or a roll model she wants to be like but fails. and goes to extreams to fit in
muckie00 2 years ago
so maybe she killed herself because she got pregnant and went into a state of delusion/insanity? (kinda)
and the school bathroom thing maybe that's where she took the test or where she may have been raped??? (tho I don't want to tie everyone in with rape)
2XtremeVIP 2 years ago
yeh i agree maybe something like that, it is hard to try and switch theorys from rape but its easy to explai nthings...
i agree with the test and things yeh. or maybe her first period? something like that her break into teenageness
muckie00 2 years ago
Forgot to mention that the fact that she tries to make everything perfect and that is really stressful in itself.
OptimalComms 2 years ago
For scarlet i got the sense that her death could've been suicide, from what Katrinonous said about her making a fool of herself at her recital. That coupled with the stress of handling the rest of the children could've driven her to that edge. That's what i got out of it.
OptimalComms 2 years ago 3