Re: Why would "GAY" people want heterosexual marriage?

[Derisa22]

This dude in this video is seriously a head job.

[BikerBry]

This is a straw man argument. Nature has nothing to do with homosexuality. It is a lifestyle preference and choice. Not dissing it... I love sex with my woman and we get freaky, so I can't pass judgement. Nature is not involved. Homosexual genes would quickly be eradicated through natural selection. I do agree with yngwoodsta in the fact that gay people are attention whores and want to somehow "change" the hetero society we live in.

[msbuch72]

@BikerBry Only homosexuals can say if it is a choice or not. Are you trying to tell us that you can just as easily have sex with a man as you could with a woman? That makes you bisexual, not heterosexual. If you can't choose, then it obviously is not a choice.

[BikerBry]

@msbuch72 - That is an incredibly screwed up argument. ANY person, hetero or homo is "capable" of having sexual relations with anybody or anything at any time. The argument "Only homosexuals can say if it is a choice or not" is seriously flawed logic. If you are a gay man you are physically capable of having sex with a woman. It's your psychology that determines who you choose to. and that, my friend, *is* still a choice!

[msbuch72]

@BikerBry Choosing WHICH man you will have sex with is different than choosing which gender to find sexually arousing. Just because you find both genders sexually arousing does not mean we all do. Your bisexuality is your own. Don't try to pawn it off on the rest of us.

[BikerBry]

@msbuch72 Well I'm not going to have sex with ANY man because that is not my preference and I *choose* not to. Nice try, but I'm not that gullible. Cast your fishing line in another fishing hole, I'm not biting.

[msbuch72]

@BikerBry Why do you 'choose' not to prefer men?

[BikerBry]

@msbuch72 Because it is disgusting and unnatural.

[msbuch72]

@BikerBry Doesn't sound like much of choice, does it sparky.

[msbuch72]

@BikerBry Unless you simply choose to SAY it is disgusting and unnatural, when actually you feel quite differently about it but could never admit it because of what your daddy would say.

[BikerBry]

@msbuch72 And you wonder why people have such a bias against homosexuals? Did the kids used to chase you home after school and beat you up every day when you were a child? Did Daddy not give you the love you needed? - I KNOW! Daddy wasn't no where to be found because he was with another WOMAN instead of your skanky mom?

[Derisa22]

@msbuch72 That's incorrect. I am a man with no desire to have sex with man; however, at any point I can go and either ping or let a man ping me. If my body and mind did't line up I could do much worse things. That's the explanation for a straight man who goes into prison and leaves as a homosexual.

[Asmerful]

now i hav a question who r 4 gays n wat not y duz everybody in gay marrge idea or even atheism n agonistic dey r aginst christians y da church in preticulair? y not muslims or jews or others? in islamic states gays wud b killed! n gays say o we get attacked so much. so ya dats my question y do gays athesits n agonstics always aginst da church?

[breemystic]

@Asmerful Okay so your question was "Why are gay people and gay activists who are straight, atheists and agnostics against Christians and the Church instead of Muslims or Jews?

I am a woman married to a man, no lewd comments please, I support gay rights. Next point, people are against Christians particularly the Evangelical Fundamentalists instead of the Muslims, because the Muslims are not in the US preventing Gay Couple from Marrying, it's mostly Christians, I'm sorry but it is.

[breemystic]

@Asmerful cont'd from last. 2ndly, Yes Muslims are out killing gays and women. But I've heard and read many comments from anti-gay people about how being gay or having gay sex should be a death penalty felony, this is from Christians in the US. Don't treat Christians as superior in Morality to Islamic People or Jewish people, Christendom countries in the world and there are Christian third world countries that execute gay people too. Please do your research on that.

[Asmerful]

@breemystic im a orthodox christian, i think gay marrige shudnt be legal. nature duz go againest homos. they cant make a child. being is a choice, ur body is made to reproduce. i think gays r trying to mkae thier movements like the Africian Amercian civil rights movement which is wrong. if they wanna get married go ahead, but a real wedding has always been between man and woman even before christianity.

[breemystic]

@Asmerful "i think gay marrige shudnt be legal. nature duz go againest homos. they cant make a child. being is a choice, ur body is made to reproduce"

Okay, I'm a woman married to a man, both my husband and I are infertile. Should we be married yes or no, because it sounds like nature doesn't want my husband or myself to be married according to what you said. I'd love to see your answer to that.

[breemystic]

@Asmerful And I noticed you didn't respond to me commentating on the fact that there are Christians in the US that would love being gay to be a death penalty felony. I noticed that you didn't respond about Christian Countries in the world that act exactly like Muslims do and kill gays.

You just jumped to, oh I think gays shouldn't have their marriage legally recognized because of any number of reasons that can apply to straight couples as well. It comes down to your beliefs, own up to it.

[Asmerful]

@breemystic were talking about amercias gay movement not the world. yes i my orginal question had something to do with the world. but thier r muslims and jews here

[osummuso]

I actually respect the fact that you try and be reasonable and tolerant of this stupid bigot and his like.

Personally, i want to run him over with a truck!

Yup, he's an Attention Seeker!

[dcg39]

i am straight. your the gay one. ha

[msbuch72]

@dcg39 Sure you are.

[dcg39]

being gay is a choice bro.

[msbuch72]

@dcg39 Only gay people can say that. In order for gay to be a choice, straight has to be a choice too. So when did you choose and what was the deciding factor?

[dcg39]

@msbuch72 why the hell would you want to be gay? im staight cus homosexuality isnt right. its common sense.

[msbuch72]

@dcg39 So you could just as easily be gay, but since a penis and a penis don't fit, you choose to be straight??? Dude, you're not straight, you're bi.

[dcg39]

@msbuch72 im not hating gainst gay people at all, but look at it this way a penis and a penis dont go together, same thing with vaginas. a man and a woman fit and were made for eachother. thats all i gotta say.

[SManEasy]

Why is so much value placed on children. You can argue that children may grow up to become human but It only works if you value human beings.

I would never have any children personally. I like cats better.

[fimale2fimale]

well said man

[dedrawilliams]

old people die soon they can not raise kids and they can have kids duhh look it up.

your points fail wemon can have kids so you fail sir

[msbuch72]

The average age for menopause is 49. Look it up.

[dedrawilliams]

a 50 year old had twins look that up :p and a 70 year old.

[msbuch72]

How about an 80 year old woman? Or a 90 year old one. Are you trying to say that all women can have children up until the day they die? You definitely fail if you believe that. that's just stupid.

[dedrawilliams]

You know i never said that,the ages i posted is of the two wemon that had babys at those ages it was on news.

[msbuch72]

Should we live our lives according to the National Enquirer?

[TheGaytheist]

Ever heard of menopause?

A woman in her 30s or 40s (or rarely 50s) stops producing ova during menopause, and from then on, she becomes infertile.

So, unless by "old people" you mean someone younger than that age, you fail. Older men may be able to procreate with younger women, perhaps, but that's only half the old people. And even then, most older men have also become infertile or impotent in their dotage. Look it up.

Oh, and gay people aren't infertile medically, so you fail.

[dedrawilliams]

yes,but they at one point could and should have had kids men can not have kids with men or vise versa .

[msbuch72]

They can adopt from the women who can't take care of their children or who don't want them. And there are millions of children in the world who need parents. For as long as women have had children, there have been children who are unwanted.

[TheGaytheist]

"Could and should have?" So you're saying that anyone who can reproduce should therefore reproduce? Is it somehow necessarily "bad" if someone chooses not to procreate? I know plenty of straight people who choose not to have children. Are they doing something wrong? Is overpopulation just not a concern?

[grindstonejournal]

One YTer suggested homosexuality couldn't be explained by evolution bcs gay ppl can't have children, so they can't pass on their genes.

Anybody who things so doesn't know any gay people. Homosexuals do have children. Not just adopted children, either. Their *own* children. At least half of the gay people I know have their own biologocial children, for various reasons. Some of them were once in straight marriages.

[grindstonejournal]

really good points here.

Question (asked honestly with real curiosity)... Do you think homosexuality might be naturally selected as a way to curb overpopulation? There must be an evolutionary benefit, because the trait has survived. What do you think?