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  • I prefer the later line-up, but this is still pretty amazing stuff..

  • Increìble, maravilloso fantastico genial...aunque se ve como el tohor...pero las cosas legendarias deben ser asi miticas....

  • @RandallJonesy,most people are assholes,I always had a great time with Thunders.He cared enough to get me in a Clash/Gang War show that had oversold by 800 in1979.

  • different last verse on "rocks" this was shot at CBGB in 1975,,,a very cool find,thank you for sharing!

  • IS DEE DEE HOME!!!!

    CONCHASUMADREEE!!!

  • Richard Hell is God !

  • This is CBGBs. You can tell by the picture in the background. This looks like it was filmed the same night as Blondie-A Girl Should Know Better. The film quality is the same. That would make it August 15, 1975 when Blondie opened for the Heartbreakers at CBGBs. Just guessing though.

  • where was this filmed ? I don't recognize the venue. Is it Coventry ? I grew up two blocks away. The place burned down about 10 years ago Insurance job

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  • The dear late mr Thunders would make you feel like an "ant" in his prescence.....You have no fucking idea what you are blabbing....Its "Theater" you are not only believing the hype.... showing yourself as someone who doesnt belong here........Diff. Subject...Paul who is claimng to have edited this is in fact a vidieo artist chum of Pat Ivers....but um...this thing might as well remain as cloudy ...as the amount of dried 'white stuff" on the cameras she used...um is " legend"..tee hee

  • @udohood He was being sarcastic...

  • this vidieo was somehow filtched from Pat Ivers yeah, they sound-tested @ the coventry...yeah walter was in the demons.......

  • It's a bootleg, because someone else has what may be the original.

    Look up someone with the user name DannySaysJP, or look at the links along the right side of this page. It's there.

  • Excellent upload. Really captures The Heartbreakers at a period in their career that most people were not lucky enough to witness. Kudos!

  • I love the Hell era Heartbreakers, if anyone has these tracks as audio could you send them to me?

  • great stuff...too bad john got the HIV like Jerry Nolan,,...too bad he passed early

  • The origin of PUNK is right here.

  • They're living IN-a Chinese Rocks?? Love the Hellbreakers

  • Heroin

  • is water using a capo there?

  • Interesting how Hell and JT keep singing like they both want to be lead, probably one reason why they split. Both are lead guys in my opinion.

  • televison and the new york dolls two of my favorite bands i love this

  • I have this show on cd. Anyone interested in the separate audio tracks? I can upload them, no problem.

  • @spikedude44 yes please, can you upload to megaupload please send me pm with link. look i love richard hell and television hes fantastic, i just see this and i like new york dolls a lot i cant belive that those 2 has formed a band, amazing. the 2nd song is something with deedee?? i tought it was a cover of Ramones,. sorry for me english !! thanksk for sharing.

  • @spikedude44 I'm interested! How many songs did they play?

  • @spikedude44 yes please!!!!! early heartbreakers is fucking amazing

  • @spikedude44 PLEEEEAAASSE do!

  • @spikedude44 hey, would love to hear the audio for this!

  • Not sure what "uncut" means in the blurb. Though rough, I directed this video. That is to say switched it (3 cameras). It might have been the first gig with Walter Lure. I saw the Heartbreaks debut as a three piece at the Coventry in Queens earlier that summer. Walter was then in the opening band, the Demons. (some provenance info to follow)

  • thanks for the info and for taping it in the first place. uncut means the three songs are together, unlike other uses who uploaded 3 separate videos.

  • the Dolls reformed should have had Hell on Bass, Marky Ramone on Drums and Walter Lure on lead. The guys they got are good but not NY. They could have got Gord Lewis Guit., Steve Mahon on Bass and Jack Pedler on Dr. all from Teenage Head Canada and sounded like the real New York Dolls did!

  • One of -if not THE- best music video on YouTube.

  • thanks!

  • 'Thank you Dee Dee..wherever you are'

  • i was at this show! it was at cbgb when the stage was on the left. i saw them alot. they were great early on with Hell, cuz he was cool and added love comes in spurts and blank generation to the show. and still pretty fuckin good later on with johnny, jerry, and walter! sloppy as hell with great songs, loads of fun. to the guy who needs tabs for pirate love, if u cant figure out these great simple songs, give up playing, you have no ear for music! i am so glad this vid is up!

  • great song

  • Darn, this is live! How good they make it sound, how good Johnny's made up his hair!

    Vid quality is (more or less)shite. But they are doing the songs just as proper as at L.A.M.F.

    My regards to the film team: caught them at a good spot!

  • Glad richard hell never took control of the heartbreakers, Johhny's the man!

  • Not really. Richard was smarter.

  • You said it. Johnny's always coming straight from his bloody damaged heart. Hell was too intellectual for the Heartbreakers. I also agree with you because the Voidoids would never have happened otherwise, and they also rule.

  • "IN a Chinese rock?"

  • "ON a Chinese rock"

  • I know how it's SUPPOSED to go, but they're saying "IN a Chinese rock."

  • Could be Richie's KY accent

  • Nah, they're saying "in" for some reason. They don't do it on the recording. Just here. They might be saying "I'm livin' in a Chinese hock" or "I'm livin' in a Chinese box" I can't tell, but they're definitely saying "in."

  • Which recording? Mine's the Yonkers Demos w/ Richard.

  • pretty good for back then long live the junkies live the voice posted where have all the junkies gone...

  • I love Richard.

  • its like seeing the Forgotten Rebels or the Mickey DeSadist Show in Hamilton or Toronto Canada

  • this is when I started hanging a CBGB's. those were the best times in NYC barre non

  • Wow, Are you fuckin' Serious? If I could go back in time it would either be there and then or Early 80's LA.

  • I have this but I'm missing Goin' Steady. I must get the full video! Any help would be greatly appreciated, with this or any other Thunders related video that I don't have. Just get in touch and I'm sure we can work out a trade of some sort.

  • They ah doin' Pirate Love faihly well heah' It's mi'a Heartbrekahs favorit' Eff I need an injectjah of eneagiah - thats tha trick, and haz been so fah many yeaz. Let's paaahtiiie.....

  • The dear late Mr Thunders will always be remembered for his polite manners, his respectful modesty, especially when dealing with his fellow musicians. His strict family man-values and the no-compromize say no to drugs-policy that guided him throuhout his whole life, not to mention. Besides, he was tall too!

  • Don't forget his tiny button nose, either, alongside all that general tact and sobriety.

  • I'm so sorry, I forgot... Won't happen again!

  • Y-a-t´il quelqu´un qui s´est déjà inscrit sur Fulltiltpoker com avec le Code de parrainage JUSTMORE ? J´ai entendu parler qu´on reçoit un bonus de 600$ ! Qui a des infos plus précises pour moi ?

  • Splendid stuff! Tnx alot! It's amazing that I keep coming back to thunders again and again...Must say though, I have a bit of trouble seeing Hells greatness...

  • It's funny how they had 3 lead singers when Hell was in the band... Great band though.

  • seeing JT and Richard Hell sharing the mic on Chinese Rocks -- doesn't get much meatier than that....

  • rock n roll history. enough said...

  • awesome...i love old footage like this, makes it more mysterious.

  • thats for sure

  • cool

  • I saw the very first Heartbreakers show, ever, at the Coventry. It was an off night and there were no more than about 20 people there. I never quite understood why they did that show. I don't even think it was advertised. They seemed to want to test the formula out or something. I was just glad that Johnny invited me. He was a sweet guy, before he got really junked out.

  • Not a big Johnny fan, His new stuff is rather boring. But this band was the seed that eventually became the Ramones, via Voidoids and NY Dolls. Cool stuff!

  • New stuff? He's long dead!

  • Walter looks about 17. Very entertaining.

  • yes its walter, johnny, jerry, and richard...i was probably at this show, i saw this band sooo many times. Sloppy, high, i dont know, but goes to show you can be raunchy and noisy and even somewhat out of tune if you have GOOD SONGS!!! they were great you shoulda been there...

  • this will be remembered in the future the way the mona lisa would be if nobody noticed how great it was till it almost disappeared

  • pirate love is such a great song.can some one give me the bass tabs to pirate love?

  • ME 2! ive been trying to find it for so fucking long

  • fuck Legs Mc Neil, he did nothing but copy an earlier book by Clinton Heylin called From The Velvets to the Voidoids. He might've been there at the beginning of the so called punk rock revolution in New York in the 70's, which is total shit because the Velvet Underground, MC5, and Stooges were the founders.

  • Legs McNeil never said he was part of the Detroit/Ann Arbor music scene. In case you haven't read Please Kill Me, IT'S ALL INTERVIEWS. I can remember about 3 instances where he says something but all 3 were in the section about New York punk. From the Velvets to the Voidoids was watered down. If I hadn't known when each of them were published, I would have thought Please Kill Me came first.

  • Punk Rock was Made in the USA!

    Punk Rock "Fashion" was Made in the U.K.

    Except for Strummer -- HE was authentic!

  • You are right. However, I never thought of Clash as a Punk band. They were just great. They crossed so many genres in their short time, you can`t really call them punk. Their political message was usually peaceful and about humanity. I can`t say enough good things about them. I just don`t think they were a punk band after their first album. They evolved into musicians people actually heard and used it. They just became great.

  • I agree with you

  • thank u!

  • Strummer was not all that authentic, may he rest in peace.

  • True. Great composer, awesome performer, but not all that authentic.

  • SOOOOO BEAUTIFUL STUFF !

    Thank you verrry much !

  • Walter seems to be here . Johny w/ no definitive sound! Anyway, great.btw Pat Ivers produced or dierected (" nightclubbing") with a lot of films about the punk era .

  • is Walter on gutiar on this?

  • That was Chinese Rocks not this song! This is Going Steady. I was there and I know (Or knew.) all of them!!

  • I'm afraid to tell you all that a person called Pat Ivers (user: Pattytv) is claming she owns the copyright of this video and wants me to take it down. She's obviously moved by greed and doesn't want you to see this without paying. I won't take it down myself, but i don't know what will Youtube do next week. I highly recommend you videodownloader, a plug-in for Firefox you can use to download this. Does anyone knows how this copyright claims work?

  • how can down load this so the fuck cant win

  • Ask her if she ever got a release from the band or the publisher. Guaranteed the answer is no. She wants ownership of something she doesn't own. HA!!

  • HAHAHA, that worked! In the true punk spirit, you kept it up and the system just hadta take it! A great story for a great peice of footage. This is too good NOT to share with the public, and I can't thank you enough, man!

  • Cool. I like hearing the "lost" verse to Chinese Rocks with Hell singing!

    When they checked me in at dawn/I heard they thought my pulse was gone/I found that I was happy to die/and Chinese Rocks is the reason why.

    That verse was dropped post-Hell (too fatalistic for perhaps superstitious junkies, Nolan and Thunders?).

    ASCAP credits Dee Dee and Hell 50/50, though Hell has said Dee Dee wrote 75% including the music,chorus and 1st verse. Hell wrote the two last verses.

  • Actually, "Too Much Junkie Business", which Thunders did sing, is even more morbid re. junk than Hell's verse...

    so, why did they delete it? I like its black humour.

  • Quote from legendary punk book called "Please Kill Me" by Legs McNeil and Gillian McCain. Richard Hell states "Dee Dee wrote a song that the Ramones won't do" "It was basically Dee Dee's song but he just needed one more verse!"

  • Jesus Saves!

  • anyone know the lyrics to giong steady? i cant seem to find them

  • I love this punk band.

  • interesting...in the video "Born to Lose" (posted on yt in several parts), Dee Dee bitches about never having been given any credit for writing Chinese Rocks. In this clip though, Thunders clearly thanks Dee Dee in '75 for "co-writing" the song. i guess they disagree about who wrote it, or maybe JT took a co-writing credit he shouldn't have (?)..but Dee Dee was all like "i have him the song and he took credit for it and never mentioned me."

  • That's Richard Hell, not Johnny, thanking Dee Dee. Hell wrote the song with Dee Dee, and Hell sang most of the songs in the Heartbreakers when he was in the group. Johnny only sang the songs that Johnny wrote by himself.

  • The reason Dee Dee bitches about the credit is becouse when LAMF went out the album credits Dee Dee plus the whole Heartbreakers, when Johnny knew well the song was made only by Dee Dee and arranged by Hell, thats all, they didn't change anything. Just mentioning him onstage isn't enough.

  • Thank God someone saved this.  This is truly classic shit.

  • yeah i agree. hell and thunders wouldas killed even more than the heartbreakers did.

  • yeah, this stuff is way better than the ramones.

    i made this account way last year, i used to be a ramones fanatic, but this, richard hell, television, and now reggae have convinced me that there is better stuff out there.

  • this truly is priceless  who had it?

  • wow, wow, wow, (mouth open)...

  • WOW MAN

  • These dudes were the real deal, the British punx that followed were like paper dolls !

  • man you can make a comparison between the both. if you knew what your talking about you'd know that england and america were both doing their own thing and just cos some ballsucking newspapers and magazines act like it was one big movement dont mean shit.

  • it`s a shame hell & thunders didn`t get along,what a

    great album they could have made...

  • heartbreakers l.a.m.f is one of my favorite punk records. beats the ramones anyday and this being '75 it looks like they're just as old! geez, they didn't stay around long enough to put out a bunch of junk, thank gawd! come, do your thing, and leave. just the way i like it!

  • I have a copy of this, but it doesn't include Goin' Steady. This is great.

  • Fantastic!!Chinese rocks´ original version sing by Hell, he was so high that he forgot the 3th verse( when they checked on my close, i heard they thought my pulse was gone) he starts to sing the 2nd again!!Hilarious

  • awesome and then they were livin in a chinese rock rather than on one

  • From which video is this one taken? It's fuckin' awesome with Hell on Vocals! Please anyone tell me what video it is!!

  • Does anybody have any footage from 1977, besides what was in "The Punk Rock" movie??? That I'd like to see.

  • I have a copy of this as well, any footgae with the original line up is super rare that's for sure. Great stuff.

    -gobacktogo

  • Holy... man, you've got quite the Holy Grail on yer hands.

  • Hey 'armadefuego' thanx a lot. Where did u get that from?. Your welcome to everyone else. Latez

  • You have to feel sorry f'r Richard. Missing out on the big time with being dumped by Television and leaving the Heartbreakers. But then again he is influential as well. And the real blank generation is Britney's...

  • beautiful.

  • They had to be one of the more interesting and important bands on the scene at this time? No?

  • CBGBs, 15 August 1975, first set.

    Blondie & Talking Heads played too.

  • funny to hear hell on vocals for this

  • Nice.

  • Oh wow. Thanks. Rare indeed.

  • Haha awesome, thanks alot :)

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