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  • Why black and white? Was this from the 1960s?

  • Michael Cremo, although he is a good researcher, is a cult leader in the Hare Krishna cult. His name is Drutakarma. He is worshiped as God by his followers who do all menial tasks for him as slaves. The cult itself is very draconian and enforces thought control on its members, and has about 70 or so Guru's who in my opinion are clearly sociopaths, as is Drutakarma

    Like Scientologists and stress test they do, he is secretive about this information as he knows people will be put off by this

  • @TheLusseyran that is just your faith, goodluck

  • @MontyBrith What do you mean? Please make it clear what point you are trying to make. Thank you

  • @TheLusseyran Don't believe everything you hear, wild speculation!

  • @MontyBrith Which part is speculation? Belongs to Hare Krishna sect? His name is Drutakarma? He is an initiating Guru and is worshiped as good as God? Has personal servants that perform his cooking, cleaning, washing, travelling for him?

    Not speculation....FACT

  • @TheLusseyran Some points are correct but most are wrong, anyway sounds like you envy him. Email him and find out what he is really like

  • @MontyBrith you see best thing in debate and discussion is to stick to the facts without making personal insinuations. Ad hominem is a sure sign of weak foundation of argument.

    Anyone with strong understanding of human psychology, who is in tune with intuition, the inner voice, (which your religion calls 'supersoul') which is nothing but the higher self, can see things as they are. ie disseminate truth from illusion. Those indoctrinated struggle with the latter.

    Truth is higher then religion

  • @TheLusseyran 1) Hare Krishna is not a sect, its just called that by those who dont fully understand it. Its quite funny really. 2) Yes you got his name correct, so what? 3) He is not worshiped as God, that is realy funny lol - Pure Devotees are worshiped like that. 4) yes i'm sure he has assistants helping him like so many people in the world have assisetants, so what? so you got 2 out of 4 correct.

  • @MontyBrith

    "You preach the cult of Caitanya Mahaprabhu in English language. This is very much essential"

    (Srila Prabhupada's Lecture on Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati's Appearance Day)

    cult

    noun

    1. sect, following, body, faction, party, school, church, faith, religion, denomination, clique

    2. craze, fashion, trend,

    3. obsession, worship, admiration, devotion, reverence, veneration, idolization

    

  • @TheLusseyran Yes these words are ok, worship, admiration, devotion, reverence. No problem with that anything else i can help you with ?

  • Please do not be deceptive and duplicitous, by using smokescreens and diversion tactics.

    Did Prabhupada state that ISKCON is "the CULT of Chaitanya Mahaprabhu"

    Yes or no please

  • @TheLusseyran Yes he did but You have to go deeper, I thought it would be obvious to you but guess not. So sorry that is my fault. Let me explain in simple terms, The word "CULT" back when Srila Prabhupada said "CULT" does not have the same negative connotation as it does these days in the public consciousness. Clear and Simple.

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  • Actually is was Bhaktisiddhanta that used the term cult, Prabhupada just repeated his words. Of course the negative stigma to the word was not so prevalent back then as I guess he wouldn't of used it. (It was before the 1980 New Vrindavana atrocities)

    By my intention was not really to prove Iskcon to be an evil cult, but merely 'a cult' in terms of 'religion' 'church' 'following'.

    As the saying goes, the difference between a cult and a religion is that the latter is older.

  • Honestly, the fact that this guy denies ALL evidence for human biological evolution is disturbing. He was on Coast to Coast last week, and I couldn't stand to listen to the whole show. His theories are laughable at best. His "evidence" is based so much on conjecture and third-hand accounts and ancient writings. I can see a 25th century version of Michael Cremo stating that had mutants (xmen) with special powers in the 21st century because he found the ancient historical documetns (comics).

  • @chazcov08 You need to read his book

  • @chazcov08 you need to educate youre mind about this you will be sceptic ofcourse when you learned something else, check out the pyramids in bosnia there alot older then the pyramids in egypt, between 14-45 000 years old...just check it out learn...most we learn in school is bullshit they really dont know anything...check out for yourself but with an open mind if youre sceptic all the way thru youre not gonna listen to the facts

  • @chazcov08 "Honestly, the fact that this guy denies ALL evidence for human biological evolution is disturbing."

    Is his position that we are more than bipedal animals, or that he has the freedom to say so, "disturbing" to you?

    A wild inference tells me it's the latter.

    I find your Marxist parochialism amusing, and all too common (get your pat on the head like a good boy), but not disturbing.

  • @11pinrelay Your wild inference is nothing more than just that. Wild. Everyone in the US has the RIGHT to spew any such risable pablum as that which Cremo vomits. What I find deplorable is the fact that he disregards mountains of empirical evidence to the contrary. Defend his right to say it, but don't defend his position. If you throw your hat in with his lot, then you deserve any ridicule that befalls you.

  • @chazcov08 Cremo and the entire pop of the U.S. is not as RISIBLE as thee, my friend. "Deplorable...disturbing."

    Quite.

    "mountains of empirical evidence" that eugenecist crackpot Darwin spoon fed to the credulous and flatus filled...like yourself.

    Was it you who made the "puffed up ram's bladder on a stick "speech at parliament, or were you the recipient?

  • I noted that he did not say explain the scientific content of the Bhagavad Gita to the devottees >>> but to the scientists - He said this after we questioned him on the strange maps in 5th canto - after this decree I took the kid gloves off - scientific answers for scientific questions - and not scuttle to speculation by prajalpa

  • @dasgroovey My understanding is even Devotees are at different levels and some Devotees may want to hear things he has to say so they can preach to non devotees. Many people don't want to hear about any religious scriptures especially in Kali-yuga, I was told all this stuff is like a fish hook, to make people think "wow these Vedas have some really kool stuff in", then one day they might read Gita.

  • he's supposed to be explaing BhagavadGita 'scientifically'- not rambling on in areas of useless prajalpa - according to his spiritual master

  • @dasgroovey Some People cannot go straight to the Bhagavad-gita due to their level of faith. So what he is doing is creating a bridge. If they like what he's saying they might get into it and one day read the Gita. Simple.

  • @MontyBrith - more prajalpa > that is not the decree of Srila Prabhupada > I was in the room ( New York Rathayatra 1976 ) when Srila Prabhupada said so - "YOU MUST SDESCRIBE THE SCIENTIFIC CONTENT OF BHAGAVAD GITA TO THE WESTERN SCIENTIST > the presentation above is a pile of compounded speculative idiocy that detracts the scientific truth contained in Bhagavad-Gita and brings no one ( not any scentific community ) towards understanding Bhagavad-Gita <

  • @dasgroovey But if you have faith in Gita you dont need to hear this stuff unless you want to preach to non devotee friends or people on the street who are scientifically minded.

  • @MontyBrith I would never use this garbble to talk to so called karmi scientists - BhagavadGita contains science -and thats the mandate of the GURU

  • @dasgroovey If they will listen to you about the Gita then thats great. But for those who will not then you have to give them something. Srila Prabhupada asked his science Devotees to preach to the world and they did it in many ways.

  • Having petty, parochial and tribal arguments about whether whites are more "advanced" than blacks or any other group (or visa versa) is utterly pointless, spiritually bankrupt and blinds us all from seeking the truth about our common humanity and existence. If Cremo is right (and he might well be) then modern humans have been here for hundreds of millions of years. Just imagine all the changes, developments, rises and falls of countless kingdoms, empires and civilizations in that immense span.

  • christian society will never tell the truth!

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  • @NotTooObvious heres why you should care, the direction and goals in our life is determined by who and what we think we are. So if you have spiritual answers to who you are then you live will your life differently

  • @ CJBnow

    You ignorant fuck. What could possibly justify your statement that coloured people are less intelligent than white Europeans.

  • How are they suppressing all this information. Any bones or artifacts are considered part of the indigenous culture of America and being so are reburied. This is one more time they use the colored people to destroy evidence that white Europeans are not from this planet. Could this be why we are so much smarter than colored people and used them as slaves. Now they are rebelling against the sumerians annuaki or white men.

  • @CJBnow - white europeans are not smarter than colored peoples. i suggest you view the video, "guns, germs and steel" to help you understand how wrong you are.  you just need a little educating - don't be afraid of knowledge, or racial equality for that matter. it won't hurt you.

    and by the way, the romans, the ottomans, the egyptians and the carthanginians were all brown people who enslaved white europeans, who at the time were still living in caves and uncivilized.

  • @eddiezono Let me step in. Having seen the documentary of Guns, Germs and Steel, I think the author of that book needs to educate himself. Culture was brought to Pre-Columbian America by bearded WHITE gods who came across the sea from the east. Those same civilizing gods brought culture to the Sumerians which was the start of civilization in our known history. The Mayans referred to the men who lived before the flood as "the old WHITE fathers, the men who had all knowledge".

  • According to reason evolution is a fact , we are not the same persons we used to be thousnads of years ago. Full consciousness ,no material shape and spirituality and every other previous state of our long way is obviously a fact as well .

    But there is absolutely no contradiction at all in relation to Darwinian evolution that is simply the explenation of humans ( one of the many possibility that energy has during all possible evolutions).

  • @mgarofano do you know darwin's intention for writing his theories. Do you understand and know who the people were backing darwin. Dont take things at face value. we have been manipulated into thinking and reasoning in a certain way. wake up

  • @genoa2878 .I'll show you " real " devolution - and just in one generation" ...think about a baby putted in to a jungle very far from any kind of civilisation with no tools. Let's suppose he survives. Then, what do you aspect to find after 30 years? As I said in my previous message spirituality and soul are a part of ourselves as well as evolution ,life in different state evolves and " goes across te universe" (universal concept of evolution) Think with your mind

  • @mgarofano I agree. but you must look to see what agenda is being pushed and for what reason

  • @genoa2878 I know what you mean, and I totally agree ,it's very evident that most of death and devastation and slavery and terrorism across centuries are obviously not fortuitous,but, "pratically" I don't all agree that the production and consumption trend with empty and mindless people across many countries find its motivation in the theory of evolution...that is a universal process, evolution doesn't mean materialism.....I would find elsewhere......, do you know what I mean?

  • An UFO is classified as unidentified, the US government is classified as identified but remains unknown ..Nick M, 1958~?

  • ..Planet earth was a lifeless planet billions of earth years ago, an advanced ET came here (or a Galactic federation decision) and made it habitual by adjusting the atmosphere. There have been many fancy experiments going on for millions or perhaps billions of earth years, but always the bipedal type creature was the top priority (no matter this being mammal, reptilian etc) in this starting off, of the seeding of a now live world. We find all sorts of oddities in fossil records..

  • Part 2...in fossil records that don't fit the paradigm. The ET experiments that have been going on since time immemorial, have mostly failed in achieving the correct being that they have so long for, we are, i believe another failed objective (going by our present & past behavior,) the ET's have always stayed out of our (& past created intelligent beings) sight but have interacted with us unconsciously. They are awaiting the the first created beings to succeed in being in complete harmony ...

  • Part 3:....harmony with each other & having no aggressiveness what-so-ever with one another, only at this point, will they begin to reveal who they are, but still not directly thou, but in a strong obvious "we are here" manner. Don't forget, they made this world habitual millions or billions of earth years ago, so just imagine, where their advancement is today!! They are our mother & father, we are their children. We have always been their property!.....

  • Part 4:..The reptilians were a past creation by the same ET's that created us, or the reptilians created us! Or also, the reptilians were created too by a pre-created ET creation!! All confusing isnt it?! Well, so is earths history too.

  • Space and Time are infinite. We are but a small part of our part in space and time, therefore are we not infinite too?!

  • pitagorians said that all the macrospace exist in our microspace, therefore, we are big as the macrospace.

  • i bet so many pro-evolution anthropologists and archeologists would love to strangle Michael Cremo since they find his books offensive!

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  • The Flinstones was a documentary?

  • Nice joke, I mean it.

    But it also illustrates something very curious about our time. Hiden truths usualy appears in the popular culture. It's like someone fells guilty by hiding the truth and says it in a childish way. Another exemple that occurs to me now is Astrology. It also has truth, it also is denied by the "scientific community" and it also has a simplified version (the solar astrology in the newspapers).

  • The main reasons for Archeologists, Geologists and Historians not accepting this information is really quite simple. The first reason is ego. Imagine working in either given field, only to find out that what you have invested your life in, has all been wrong. The second reason is money. Acknowledgment would possibly mean all Government, University, Museum and Private Sector funding for their fields would come to a halt. It is ego and job security that blinds these people from seeing the truth.

  • I hear ya on that.

  • It doesn't explain why the evidences were hiden in the early years of the theory of evolution. This theory has huge efffects on the human perception of himself and his fellow man. If it was true, well, truth is truth, but it wasn't. Christians did fight this theory from the beggining. I think that what we are dealing with here is much bigger than most understand.

  • @Tiberiusduck LOL! The reason this information is ignored is because its Hindu Creationist nonsense. Michael A Cremo is a joke, accept it.

  • @Tiberiusduck ...Spot on brother!! Spot on. I couldn't have said better, & same goes for the UFO phenomena too, the church will collapse if the world found out we we're created by ET! That means no more church collection & donations too.

  • @Tiberiusduck yup the same bull shit since the time when people challenged the flat earth theory or "FACT" lol

  • The South Pole-Aitken basin is an impact crater on Earth's Moon. Roughly 2500 kilometers in diameter and 13 kilometers deep, it is the second largest known impact crater in the entire Solar System. It is thought to have been caused by an oblique impact of a large body. Could this have been caused by a huge comet, the fragments of which might have escaped the moon's gravitational field and rained down as a The Deluge on Earth about 5000 years ago ? Well, it is worth investigating, I think !

  • Correction...more like 6000 years ago, sorry !

  • Do you believe in the Great Flood, and that it took place 5 millenia ago? LOL

  • Sorry, no evidence of a major flood 5,000 years ago. 11,000 years yes, 5k, no.

  • Of course, not. How can people be so gullible as to believe CREMO?

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  • Black & White because it was copied off a VHS video tape that didnt copy so well. Hare Krishna!

  • Cremo was in Nashville a few months ago (Summer 2008)- Google:

    MYSTERY US! #7 Tony Pratt interviews Michael Cremo - 28:03 - Nov 8, 2008

  • here me out here. i am relatively young but i cant get enough of this stuff, i think people are waking up mow....no more supression yessa

  • Indeed... We ARE waking up!!!

    I've been glued to YouTube for 3 straight weeks, couldn't have enough about 911 truth, CIA drug cartel, all the assassinations, Federal Reserve private bank, Illuminati, NWO, suppressed alien contacts....

    My God, I am being freed. From mental slavery! From my own mental prison!

  • just be careful of how close your nose gets to the tube... it can get pretty addictive. What is most important, is to think independently, and don't agree with everything you hear. Its no different than listening to everything on the news without questioning. the path to mental slavery can only be undone by yourself. Only then will you wake up.

    Cheers

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  • Most scientists are completely in the dark. All their conclusions are based on the idea that MATTER is everything, that it is solid and that time actually exists in the way that we perceive it. None of that is true. We are spirit, assemblage points of awareness, pure consciousness, which has no real form. We are beyond concepts. We are a total mystery and we are born of one source.

  • Indeed. Scientists in the past 2 decades are realizing that everything is energy. Matter as we know it is also energy. Einstein proved that the 2 are interconvertible.

    What scientists do not know is that there is a subtler force that energy and that is "spirit" or "pure consciousness" out of which everything has evolved.

  • just read forbidden archeology. or book by childress.

  • Revelations prophecies that we will see the fall of the Catholic church probably in our life time.

  • Great intro,Visit the Bocksaga channel, and welcome to the oldest mythology on the planet.

    Pa-ra-dis-et is here.

  • why does the video look like it was shot in the year 1294?

  • LOl at how "michael" was shaking and nodding his head..

  • darwinians theory....LOL...what a mook...

  • This was filmed in 1994? Did they purposefully degrade the video and sound quality and make it B/W to appear older than it seems?

  • maybe yes, maybe no, maybe go f-k yourself...-marky mark in "departed"

  • total rubbish. it is ignored because you should save your breath for cooling your porridge.

  • The previously mentioned false terminology and generalizations aside, Mr. Cremo should provide some interesting explanations/evidences... I should hope. btw, I'm not attacking the man, just stating facts I noticed were blatantly blurred.

  • Scientist would never hide evidence?,maybe,but their funders and peer reviewers would.

  • I feel I will comment much on this one.

    1) an entire establishment such as the scientific establishment would NEVER hide such evidence as anybody in their rite mind would ALMOST kill to prove such things true. Extraordinary beliefs require extraordinary evidence though.

    2) There is no such thing as scientific "heresy/heretics". Only psuedo(fake)science and empirical science.

    3) The man says he heard from the "spokesperson" of the scientific community. Such a "spokesperson" does not exist!

  • All members of the scientific community are not a part of a cover up no,but key elements are.Science is influenced by the oil,gas & military complex.

  • Wow, do you have the same amount of confidence and trust in the politicians aswell. In that case you would make a great puppet.

  • Actual archeologist are like the priest in the dark ages. In that time spoke against the bible was heresy and the new thinkers were called heretics. If you disagree with their view they just look for crazy explanations to fit their wacko world. For example the black pharaons. Archeologist denied dark pharaons at all. But now in a National Geografic report they show true evidence about them. The problem are the archeologyst. Physicist and specially cuantic physist are cool!!!

  • Cremo is interesting and you are right. Priests, and those like priests were put in place to hide truths and give them power. Humans have vast potential, but religion has put everyone in the dark ages... Believing GOD is separate from you gives plenty of power to the holders.

    Archeology is the same. We know much more exists but the MFs with the money and funding power are the assholes of the planet.

    Peace

  • Peace!

    I understand that the Vatican Library is absolutely vast and that's where the "treasures" are stored!

    I have come to the conclusion that most of what most people think they know, is infact merely disinformation....so we have a lot of real research to do to catch up, if that's possible....? May we join that library?

  • You're so right! Unfortunately the only way for us to enter the secret archives of that library is for the Vatican authorities to be jailed for their multiple crimes. Then the "Holy See" will belong to all citizens of the world. It'll take a while, but it'll happen.

  • TY . I belive this the way Leonardo Da Vinci thought.

    peace

  • Actual archeologist are like the priest in the dark ages. In that time spoke against the bible was heresy and the new thinkers were called heretics. If you disagree with their view they just look for crazy explanations to fit their wacko world. For example the black pharaons. Archeologist denied dark pharaons at all. But now in a National Geografic report they show true evidence about them. The problem are the archeologyst. Physicist and specially cuantic physist are cool!!!

  • not likely. The oldest things were built by white race. Evcen in India the different casts were like white- rulers, yellow - traders, red - warriors, black - slaves.

    Of course it may have differences.

  • well I belive china people are oldest inventors. any way men's origins are at afrika dude! so the first tools come frome there not from europe. But as you said they are guild just money and power

  • they think it's africa, but they will find that is not really Africa and not only Africa and in fact in ancient times Earth was one place.

  • scientists are men like all other.

    Remember when Shampollion decoded the egypt heirogliphs, the scientists guild rejected it.

    They are guild, they are like all other man, maybe some of them were idialistics, but they are just like us. MOney and power.

  • we are all controlled puppets...dont think so? you are very very naive....!!

  • Heresy really means ideas and evidence that does not fit into the from the cave to the crib (slang), narrative of science.

  • yes i think it was a coverup... i worked for nasa 20 years ago..and no info at all coming out of that bs organization....they store their info and let it rot...it is a mess

  • yeah this guy knows truth :)

  • can someone that knows more about all of this answer please. it says that we existed billion of years ago correct? how did we survive then if there were more powerful hunters than us, in size and speed and what not? im not basing my doubts on religion at all but its kind of wierd that we were able to survive if this is true a time period where the predators were huge and could outrun us, now not only the huge t rex but also the smaller ones. its just very doubtfull for those reasons

  • rabbits exist and lions what you on

    thats a stupid

  • hmm kinda bites Darwin in the ass. haha

  • great stuff! checkout "Fossil Skull Discovery Pt.1"

  • Cremo makes his spiritual inspirations very clear on the first page of his book in big and clear letters. Nice detective work, Lardude. Now maybe you can actually read the rest of it. Fool.

  • Your an idiot you look at the man not at the facts. Darwin died get over it man. Stop crying like a bitch every time someone finds alternatives.

  • 9/11 Was an inside job.

    Watch: "ZEITGEIST the movie"

  • sure was, and Zeitgeist, great movie by the way.

  • Correction:Scientists would never...not scientist...singular.

  • wow glad to here that for a change

  • *agree peteq1972 so many years yet we use 10% of our brain... i wonder if we have to evolve to advance....

  • Yeah, it's the inability to accept inconvenient or unpopular facts that has retarded our growth. Suppression is not the way to move forward. We need to set aside defunct myths ( like 6 Day Creationism and Darwinism ) and look at the facts about our past in an unvarnished way that can propel us into a brighter future.

  • if we been around for millions of years im a bit disapointed in our progress of how far we`ve come.

  • Over five thousand years ago there was an end to an age, so things started all over again.

  • yeah its obvious were not the first civilisation i been thinking. i aiways say there must be another way than this going to work, coming home, going to bed, getting up, going to work earn this thing called money, to get stuff, debt, poverty etc etc and always have said if we started all over again would things turn out different - there must be another way for us all to live.

  • there is, definitly! Our stupid and wastefull anti-progress is stripping the earth bare and there isn't much time left, we need to huddle into contained cities with no fossil fuel emmisions and work together in a form of communism, it's the only way the earth and humanity can survive

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