I have nothing but respect for these early explorers, with the exception of a few who committed genocide on the natives. Half of the crew would starve to death and you'd be lucky if you made it home with a complete ship. Insane adventures of the past.
It's amazing how far ancient people sailed in their wooden "ships."
The Phoenician sailing ships were 40 or 50 feet long, and even by the time of Columbus and Vitus Bering, these crazy explorers were sailing in 50 and 60 foot long vessels packed with 70 men. Imagine the Bering strait with it's 50 to 75 foot swells in a storm, and you're in this tiny 60 foot long wooden box with a sail. Actually, the St, Peter, the ship Bering crashed, had to be re-built for the return home. Keel length: 40 ft.
@BLACKCARGORECORDS You are talking a miniscule snippet of a re-enactment, showing about 1 second of some people's backs and a shell. They could be any race from that. Keep in mind, not all dark skinned people are black. Anyone who spends sufficient time out in the sun is going to get dark. Even white people who spend long periods in the sun get brown.
I love this video and these efforts---but Phoenicians were not the first to navigate by the stars by any means, and they certainly did not "discover the Pole Star." They had their own name for it, but there was no true "Pole Star" till much later (Polaris), while Bronze Age and earlier sailors used the GROUP of northernmost stars (as the Egyptians also knew)....
@murggik iF We take our food list, it is different 100% from their own food, our Folklor songs and rythms are diff, our way of living, our traditions, dance ( knowing that we have manythings in common due to the neighbourhood exchange of culture) our music instruments are different, Islam came from the Arabian Gulf with a different concept of religion if you compare it to Christianity I am not saying that arabs are a shame for us at all, but the fact is that we are not them, they are not us
@murggik I do repsect arabs but dont have any intention to ignore who we are as assyrians( people from the greater peninsula) arabs were desert tribes live in the ARABIAN gulf, Saoudi arabia, Emirates, Kuwait katar, bahrein,...we still pray in assyrian ( siriak) in our churches till now, so we speak this language only bcz they occupied our land, i cannot denie even that we had a mixed blood with them, but the environment define the nationality and the relation between our land and us
there is a new book "the phoenicians' heritage of new discoveries from all over the mediteranean coast sPecially the greek isles were the phoenicians founded many harbors and cities along their journey from cyprus,crete,santorini,malta sicali and many more.with all respect and appreciation to all ancient civilization around the world who influenced and helped our human civilized present a great admiration and appretation to the lebanese people who left there mark on the globe from east to west.
Yes, the books calls "O Cavaleiro da Ilha do Corvo" ( Editora Bussola, S. Paulo, 2011 ), by Joaquim Fernandes. The Portuguese sailors, who in the 15th century, reached the small Corvo Island in the Azores for the first time, came upon an intriguing statue of a horseman with physical features characteristic of northern Africa...
Responder a este vídeo... O cavaleiro da Ilha do Corvo The Knight of Corvo Island The Cristoforos Conspiracy An historical novel by Joaquim Fernandes, Ph.D. (ed. Temas&Debates/Círculo de Leitores, Lisbon, 2008) An unsettling document and a quest for the Truth When the Portuguese sailors arrived at the small Corvo Island in the Azores, in the middle of the 15th century, they found an intriguing stone statue, portraying a horseman with typical north African traits.
Eurocentrism, Judeocentrism, Arabists and Fundamentalist Christians
various forces impacted almost all Phoenician/ Canaanite subjects. Historians and archaeologists were predominantly inclined to Eurocentrism (especially Hellenistic supremacist who think that
Lebanese are Phoenicians and Mediterraneans ONLY. Not Arabs, Africans, Israelis or Europeans. Lebanon-Phoenicia is the Giant of Histories and the land of God
@LebanonPhoenica Bro i am from lebanon too,...we cannot be sure that we are 100% phonicians even if we have the DNA codes, for sure we are not arabs even if we are one of the arabic speaking nations( due to the islamic env) we can say that we are a combined race descending from hitties, assyrians, phoenicians, kaldan, kanaanites, all the civilizations lived and still living in the Peninsula,.... and thanks for being proud bro,....we are not arabs,...
@firasalam1: Africans are the true phoenicians..your white and tan skinned arab ansectors didnt exist in those parts..it was Africans..your arab ansctors came in modern history and conquered north africa thats why they are in lebanon. Learn the truth. You dont know who you are!
Phoenician history in Lebanon in particular at the educational level has been ignored and distorted, NOT out of ignorance, lack of responsibility or innocent mistake But out of extreme Spite and Evil Jealousy
The neglect of the Phoenician history is apparent and has become an objective for what Mr. Khalaf has referred to as officials and politicians in Lebanon.
there is a CRIMINAL hidden agenda in Lebanon to forcefully "arabise" the country. That ILLEGAL hidden agenda became obvious with the Taif Accord which amended the Lebanese Constitution, and inserted in its preamble that "Lebanon is Arab in its identity and
in its association", an issue that the proponents
of Lebanese independence and the Champions of Greater Lebanon had opposed for centuries in particular the last one.
Phoenicias role and place under the sun shall be tirelessly preserved, and the "opponents" of civilization shall NOT be allowed to jeopardize them. Until then, we shall all remain sincere and truthful to the worthiest cause of all causes, ETERNAL PHOENICIA.
Having regard to the critical cultural assault that we are confronting and foremost the open attack on our Lebanese identity as the "Autochthones" of Phoenicia, our work should now be directed to halt the ongoing attack on our heritage. To this end, we shall never surrender until Phoenicia is truly resurrected and the spirit of our ancestors shall never rest until we rejoice the return of Phoenicia to its true place on the world scene.
Tragically, the Phoenicians who are still around today, are a disaster! Theyre in pieces & isolated into little fragments rather than being united into a league! Phoenicians in one corner look at the other as strangers! A disaster! The people of Malta & Lebanon are one & the same! Yet why has the Lebanese government NOT sent out an expedition ship full of politicians to Malta for stronger ties! Because they're too involved in US pop culture & pussy & bars & drinks! No one cares any more!
U said the Lebanese are too involved in US pop culture & pu**y and bars and drinks, we Lebanese are too busy trying to protect ourselves from the Israelis. And trust me any pu**y u get in Lebanon wont be Lebanese so dont make it sound like we are all a bunch of whores because we are not!
I think this video is very important because it shows us how hard it was for the Phoenicians of Lebanon to navigate the deep oceans of this world.
There is also a belief the Phoenicians were the first caucasoid people to have reached the United States thousands of years before Columbus or the Vikings :)
READ MY PROFILE... for more information on the Phoenicians and their descendants in Lebanon today.
White,brown,black of yellow if, you live in the butt of the world it makes no difference. Maybe some people find some comfort in being "white", while not having a decent meal on their table or roof over their head.
Phoinicians are really the Cretans that survived the Santorini volcunic eruption and left their island and landed in Phoinicia.They named the area. Phoinix=the bird that rebirths itself from the ashes.
So yes, they where white, because they where Pelasgians, Hellenes.
HAPLOGROUP (J) Y-DNA marker of most Middle Eastern people is closely related ONLY to HAPLOGROUP I (M170) Y-DNA (i.e. found only in European population).
BLACK PEOPLE (AFRICANS) GENETIC MARKERS ARE:
1. HAPLOGROUP A (M91) Y-DNA
2. HAPLOGROUP B (M60) Y-DNA
These black African markers are NOT RELATED to the genetic markers of the WHITE PHOENICIANS OF LEBANON... nor found anywhere in the LEVANT or CANAAN-LEBANON.
@yerk3: The oldest race on every continetn on this planet was black skinned as was the first man..period! BLACCKS ARE THE INDIGINOUS RACE OF THE ENTIRE PLANET EARTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT IS WHY WE WERE HATED FROM THE BEGINNING!!!!!!!!
@BLACKCARGORECORDS That theory is ridiculous in so many different ways, and is supported by absolutely no evidence whatsoever. There is no evidence that there were sizable black populations outside of sub-Saharan Africa before at least the Medieval period, when Africans who had converted to Islam started moving through the predominantly Arab North Africa and into Spain and Southern Itay.
@yerk3: You are misguided. You are trying to divide Africa using the white mans tactic of divide and conquer. Africa is not divided by the saharandesert which was not even there when the oldest Africans walked on the earth in Africa. Africa is Africa and it includes Egypt. There is no older race that is older than Africans that could have populated any parts of Africa before black Africans because black Africans are the first humans.
@BLACKCARGORECORDS I'm not trying to "divide" anyone, I'm simply basing my position on the evidence at hand, rather than some pseudo-science that makes you feel good. Less than comfortable facts are always better than soothing lies. A trip to anywhere in North Africa will quickly clue you in that not everyone in Africa is black, and that Arabs are more dominant in the North, especially along the Mediterranean coast.
@yerk3: The "arabs" as you call the light skin invaders..They came to Africa as conquerers long after Egytp. "Egytp oldest sites are actually in Sudan, home of the blackest people in the planet and the Nile river flows from the interior of Africa and north thru Egypt into the mediteranean. The oldest people in Africa and the world are found in the areas of Ethipoia, Kenya, Tanzania area. Africa was colonized first by Africans and what you see today is from invading nations.
@BLACKCARGORECORDS They were there a bit earlier. If you're thinking of the Islamic conquest, that was a religious/cultural movement, not a migration of an entire population. It would be like saying all Europeans are Italian, because they were converted to Christianity by Roman missionaries. The Islamic conquest was carried out by converting the existing populations to Islam, not wiping them out and replacing them with settlers from the Arabian peninsula.
@yerk3: In case you didnt get it before: "The oldest race on every continetn on this planet was black skinned as was the first man..period! BLACCKS ARE THE INDIGINOUS RACE OF THE ENTIRE PLANET EARTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" Quote-me
@BLACKCARGORECORDS The Pharonic civilization was centered in the Nile delta, not Sudan. Their culture and religion were born of the geography of the Nile delta: their gods had everything to do with the desert, the annual flood and its deposits of black silt over the land, their gods were anthropomorphized into the animals inhabiting the marshes of the delta, the reeds and lotus flowers of the marshes appear again and again in their art.
@yerk3: Any Gods or religion on this entire planet came from blacks period. There is no white, arab, mongol, etc, that preceeds African human beings on this planet because we were the ones put here as indigenous people.
@BLACKCARGORECORDS You've made yet another unfounded statement. Your argument is based entirely on the basis of what feels good to you, what instills the easy pride one takes from others who share some trait with them. Pride can only come from yourself personally, not from others who may have shared something as inconsequential as a skin tone or an ethnicity with you.
@BLACKCARGORECORDS You're like the father from My Big Fat Greek Wedding, except in stead of rambling on about how the Greeks invented everything in the world, it's the blacks. You get this in every race, nationality, even gender, and it is always idiotic. Because someone of the same color as you was great, that does not mean that you are also great, and that goes for nationality, gender, religion, and every other trifling detail in which the ignorant vest a ridiculously inflated importance.
@yerk3: YOU'RE AN IDIOT OK YOU WANT PROOF? LOUIS LEAKY, RICHARD LEAKY AND ALL OF THE WHITE UNIVERSITIES OF THE WORLD THAT ESTABLISHED AFRICA AS THE MOTHER RACE OF ALL CIVILZATION THE OLDEST HUMANS IN THE ENTIRE AREA OF AFRICA, THE ARABIA PENINSULA, ISRAEL AND THE ENTIRE PLANET EARTH..SO THERE IS YOUR PROOF, ITS CALLED THE SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY..YOU IDIOT!!
@BLACKCARGORECORDS You must be serious, now that you've shifted to ALL CAPS. Yelling means you've lost the argument. You've only made more assertions, not evidence. Misquoting two professors does not a scientific consensus make.
@yerk3: "You must be serious, now that you've shifted to ALL CAPS" hahaha. Ok I went Libra on you sorry. But my point is if that scientists say the first humans were Africans. Then it will make sense that the indigenous inhabitants of all lands were Africans as well. If we take a look acroos the globe this can, for the most part be verified. The negritos of Asia and the archipelago, The aboriginees, The grimaldi, The caribs, wahitaw and also many native americans, etc..follow this?
@BLACKCARGORECORDS First off "scientists" don't say any one thing. It doesn't matter what point you're trying to prove, whatever it is, you'll probably find one or two scientists who agree, no matter how valid or flawed their science actually is.
@BLACKCARGORECORDS Of course all humans came from Africa, but this is something that happened over a million years ago, before any of the modern races existed. If one of them were to be transported to our time, they wouldn't be identifiable as any modern race. That developed much later.
@yerk3: "before any of the modern races existed." The African race is a modern race first of all. There isnt an old and new race. There is Homo Sapien and the first Homo Sapiens were in Africa and they looked exactly like the Africans there today. Africans have straight hair as well if u didn't know. They also have curly hair, red hair, blond hair, blue, green eyes and all of the triats that you see in modern man. Some look Asian and some look european with thin noses. Many characteristics.
@BLACKCARGORECORDS Native Americans are not black. They have straight hair and copper colored skin for the most part, and many would object not only to you saying that they were of African origin, but even to the Bering Strait theory. My mom knew an Indian who believed that they had originated in North America since the beginning, that the land itself had birthed their ancestors and they'd never come from any other continent.
@yerk3: Look up the Washitaw and the Carib. They are black native americans and so were the Sioux. You really dont know what you are talking about. It sounds like you are quoting all of the idiot college phd professors that I have already defeated in this debate. You don't know what you are talking about because you have not studied Africa or the African diaspora, like the negritos in Asia. You would not be able to hang with my knowledge on Africa and u dont believe they are worthy humans!
@BLACKCARGORECORDS The Carib are not black, nor are the Sioux. They may have had dark skin, especially in old photographs, but that was because when those photographs were taken, they still had a relatively nomadic way of life and were out riding for long stretches of time in the sun.
@BLACKCARGORECORDS You haven't defeated anyone in any debate. You have an ethno-centric fairytale that you keep promoting because it makes you feel proud without actually having to do anything. This is not something unique, every race has them, because everyone, regardless of race, likes being able to be proud of things but usually hates doing the things that might merit pride. So they concoct fairytales about how their ancestors were the coolest people in the world and invented everything.
@yerk3:I am not seeing how it is fairytale. There is evidence in Egypt/Ethiopia/South Africa/The Saharan desert/Sudan/Carthage, all of these places are African. There is evidence in Europe as far as physical skeletal remains with jewelry, that are African. In fact many British "pure" whites have African anscetory from a more closer time that "Lucy" There are still African "tribes" that colonize Asia. There is plenty evidence so u have the burden of proving that it is a fairytale before u accuse.
@yerk3: "So they concoct fairytales about how their ancestors were the coolest people in the world and invented everything."...Dude there are pictures of U.F.O'S, light bulbs and hydraulic mining drills in Egypt. In Mali they knew about Planets and specific things like moons and even the weights of certain stars. They already knew this. The Dogon tribe they are the Egyptians from Egypt and they will tell you that. You don't klnow enough about Africa to have this debate with me so u loose!
@BLACKCARGORECORDS There are no pictures of UFOs, light bulbs or hydraulic equipment in ancient Egypt. I have seen these claims before, and I have seen them debunked. The whole "ancient aliens" theory relies on a vast and complete ignorance of ancient societies.
@BLACKCARGORECORDS The Dogon are not Egyptians, and I somehow doubt that they would even claim to be. There are actually a lot of people in Africa who get pissed when American Afrocentrists try to claim that they're the same people as the ancient Egytpians. They have their own distinct tribal identities, folklore and creation myths, and nothing pisses them off more than some clueless American claiming that they're someone else from who they are.
@yerk3: The Dogon themselves say that they learned of the cosmos from Nomo a reptile race that would emerge from the water around the Sphinx and teach people and go back when the sun came out. You don't know African folklore. The "Arabs" are africoid. You believe that the light skin arabs are arabs..NO THEY ARE MULATTO! You have no proof that the Egyptians are a seperate race. Are you saying that the Egyptians weren't blacks Africans, related to other black Africans?
@BLACKCARGORECORDS Lots of different peoples have different creation myths with different magical and divine entities who have any number of natural or animal attributes. The Dogon may have believed in lizard gods, the Greeks believed in gods with wings on their feet and female bird demons, some Celtic peoples had gods who looked like men with deer antlers. Either they're all true or none are true.
@BLACKCARGORECORDS Plus, the very fact that the Dogon had such beliefs actually works against any notion that they had anything to do with the Egyptians, as Egyptian mythology had no such lizard people. They had gods who had the attributes of hawks, ibises, bulls, scarab beetles, jackals and whatever creature Set was supposed to be, but no lizards. The closest there ever came to being lizard gods is when Set took the form of a crocodile during his battle with Horus and lost.
@BLACKCARGORECORDS "Africoid" isn't even a word. The Arabs may have had some distant roots in Africa, but no more than all humans, but this was before migrations which occurred before natural selection led to the modern races. The Arabs in North Africa moved there from the Eastern Mediterranean before the Upper Nile civilizations.
@yerk3: The Arabs are from Arabia. Arabians are related to Ethiopians like Yemens. They are orig9inal black semitic speaking cultures all of them. "Most of the Middle East is now formed by conventionally called "Arab countries", recently invented by the British and French rulers after having defeated and dismembered the Ottoman Empire." You are confused, everything in that region started BLACK AFRICAN PERIOD. THE "PYGMIES" HAVE EVERY RACE KNOWN TO MAN AMONG THEM!
@BLACKCARGORECORDS The Arabs are named after Arabia, but have settled throughout the lower Mediterranean thousands of years ago. The Arabs are not related to the Ethiopians unless they intermarried. There were no "black semitic speaking cultures." The original Semitic people are depicted in the earliest art as having brown skin, not black.
@yerk3: There were no "black semitic speaking cultures." ...HUh? The semitic language is in the AFRO-ASIATIC language family. AFRO as in African, so I think you need to go back and like I said. You true ignorance and lack of study on Africa is showing now. This is about the time where if we were in a debate I would use this flaw of yours to make you look very foolish and u would loose all credibility..RIGHT ABOUT HERE! If we keep dragging this out, you will loose credibility again.
@yerk3: You are trying to make a point but your knowledge of Africa is lacking because your learning is western. You can tell me all about the Greeks and Romans but if I ask you about the Nok culture of Africa who were doing metallurgy when the western world were near neaderthals...There are so many examples of this and you can't fathom the richness and variation of cultures in all of Africa. You have been brainwashed w images of starving ethiopian kids!
@yerk3:"The Nok culture appeared in Nigeria around 1000 B.C. and mysteriously vanished around 500 AD in the region of West Africa. This region lies in Central Nigeria. The culture’s social system is thought to have been highly advanced. The Nok culture was considered to be the earliest sub-Saharan producer of life-sized Terracotta. It is suggested that the society eventually evolved into the later Yoruba Kingdom of Ife." 1000 b.c...You have no cultures that predate Africa...PERIOD POINT BLANK!!
@yerk3: "Africa is the cradle of human race. Anthropologists have unearthed the oldest human skeletons in East Africa in places such as Hadar, Olduvai, Laetoli. One of the best preserved human remnants is a female skeleton found at Hadar in Ethiopia." You have no evidence, you are just talking. I can keep doing this all day, where is your "Lebanese" ancient skulls? They don't exist they are African fool!!!!
@yerk3: You can call me a clueless American all you want. I am not clueless and the only way I am an American is because I am Eastern Piedmont Sioux "Saponi." If you look at the original inhabitants they are all black africans. They do not look like white and light skin green eye arabs who are mulatto!
@BLACKCARGORECORDS Yes, you are clueless. Your idea of the different races is absurdly over-simplistic. To believe in this binary of black and white ignores the vast majority of people in the world.
@BLACKCARGORECORDS The Sioux are not black, and there are actually a lot of Indians who would be insulted by such a suggestion, as it would imply that their ancestors colonized this land from elsewhere, when their own creation myths and folk histories say that their ancestors were birthed from the very ground of the continent of North America.
@BLACKCARGORECORDS Folk histories aside, the indigenous people of North America share basically no black features at all. Most notably, they almost as a whole have famously straight black hair, something that is simply not found among the native populations of Africa anywhere South of the Sahara. To date, your assertions have been backed up by absolutely no evidence whatsoever.
@BLACKCARGORECORDS Arabs are not Mulato, nor is green a very common eye color among Arabs. Sure, there are some Arabs who have green eyes, but they are far outnumbered by the ones with brown eyes. You are far more likely to find green-eyed Persians or Afghans than Arabs. Furthermore, Arabs are known to have darker skin. Again, there are more races in the world than "white" and "black."
@BLACKCARGORECORDS Race is a continuum, there are millions of shades between white and black, and if you lined them up from lightest to darkest, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference in hue between one and the one directly next to him.
@BLACKCARGORECORDS As for me not knowing anything about Africa, everything you know about Africa you read from either an ethnic nationalist propaganda pamphlet or from David Icke.
@yerk3: If you don't even know about the subject that you are trying to debate, then how the hell is anybody going to take you serious? You do know that Egypt extended all the way past Lebanon and into Syria, don't you? The phoenicians, the Cannaaites were in that region. The Caanaaites are the family of Ham AND mIZRAIM-eGYPT. Your world view is highly skewed. The ancient world were blacks. They were the first people here on the planet, the indigenpous race of planet earth. You dont get it son.
@BLACKCARGORECORDS And now you're projecting. You're the one who doesn't know what you're talking about. Your entire argument rests on ethnocentric pseudo-science and conspiracy theories.
@BLACKCARGORECORDS Yes, I do know that the Egyptians conquered parts of the Levant, what is still unclear is what bearing this has on the subject at hand. What, did everyone catch black from the Egyptians? Are you proposing that they slaughtered everyone and brought in settlers who looked like them? And even this is going on the base assumption that the Egyptian pharonic caste was black, which comes from yet more ethnocentric pseudoscience.
@BLACKCARGORECORDS The Canaanites were not black. They were Arab. The Biblical story of Ham is both irrelevant and a load of racist bullshit. The entire Bible is nothing but a collection of superstitions from a barbaric, warlike tribe, passed down by word of mouth for centuries, mutating countless times before finally being written down. It is schizophrenic gibberish with no bearing on historical fact.
@BLACKCARGORECORDS Your worldview is the one that is skewed. The theory that the "ancients" were all black contradicts all historical records and existing archaeological evidence.
@BLACKCARGORECORDS As for all of your repeated, grandiose claims about blacks being the "original" people of the entire planet Earth, are you one of the people who believe that all white people are part of an ancient, evil experiment to create a creature with no soul?
@yerk3: [40,000 to 28,000 years ago].. The ancient Grimaldi woman and boy are of the mixed or negroid type...To appreciate the true significance of a negroid race in the south of Europe towards the close of the Glacial Period, we must look at the distribution of moden races.......wysinger......homestead.....com/grimaldi.html
@BLACKCARGORECORDS Before that, the only blacks in Europe had been Africans from Sudan who had been bought as slaves by the Romans, and later freed (Roman slavery was different from American slavery in that it was not for life, much less multi-generational, a Roman slave was usually freed after about a decade of service) and became citizens, soldiers, merchants and at least one Emperor.
@yerk3: The blacks in Europe are the Grimaldi and they are older than any group of "white europeans" in Europe [Google: Grimaldi in europe]. There are no Romans or any other Europeans that were on the ENTIRE PLANET EARTH before blacks. So for you to assume that the first blacks were bought to Rome as slaves is completely IDIOTIC!!!!! Every person on this planet has a genetic dna identifier that is from Africa. The white mans western education has got you confused homie!
@BLACKCARGORECORDS Telling other people to do the research for you by saying "Google it" is a lazy tactic and will not work with me. Explain here who the "Grimaldi" are, and I will refute whatever ethnocentric pseudo-science you're using.
@BLACKCARGORECORDS You showed me a video with black shepherds. Who they are, where they came from or even where the video is shot is never verified. The guy made some vague references to "Israel," but never verified any of it, and besides he sounded more like a preacher than a scientist, and I have a good ear for preachers making claims about the so-called "Holy Land." Your video link tactic fails. Next.
@BLACKCARGORECORDS That history on its own is interesting and worth more attention than it's been given, and one of the historical movies I would certainly make if I had the funds would be about Septimus Severus, who was black, and who was one of the more important emperors in late-Roman history.
I have nothing but respect for these early explorers, with the exception of a few who committed genocide on the natives. Half of the crew would starve to death and you'd be lucky if you made it home with a complete ship. Insane adventures of the past.
rephaim23 1 month ago
It's amazing how far ancient people sailed in their wooden "ships."
The Phoenician sailing ships were 40 or 50 feet long, and even by the time of Columbus and Vitus Bering, these crazy explorers were sailing in 50 and 60 foot long vessels packed with 70 men. Imagine the Bering strait with it's 50 to 75 foot swells in a storm, and you're in this tiny 60 foot long wooden box with a sail. Actually, the St, Peter, the ship Bering crashed, had to be re-built for the return home. Keel length: 40 ft.
rephaim23 1 month ago
Look at 0:05 on this video..They look black to meeee!!!!!!!!!
BLACKCARGORECORDS 7 months ago
@BLACKCARGORECORDS You are talking a miniscule snippet of a re-enactment, showing about 1 second of some people's backs and a shell. They could be any race from that. Keep in mind, not all dark skinned people are black. Anyone who spends sufficient time out in the sun is going to get dark. Even white people who spend long periods in the sun get brown.
yerk3 7 months ago
phoenicians also sailed to england. they obtained massive amounts of tin from there.
issareign 8 months ago
soon the palestinian/israeli problem will be solved, inshallah, then lebanon can finally return to its grandness.
issareign 8 months ago
I love this video and these efforts---but Phoenicians were not the first to navigate by the stars by any means, and they certainly did not "discover the Pole Star." They had their own name for it, but there was no true "Pole Star" till much later (Polaris), while Bronze Age and earlier sailors used the GROUP of northernmost stars (as the Egyptians also knew)....
37Dionysos 1 year ago
Rome will rise again. And You will all be nailed to the cross.
BartRamone 1 year ago
Byblos, Lebanon is the place where the alphabets were born
hasanrules 1 year ago
@murggik iF We take our food list, it is different 100% from their own food, our Folklor songs and rythms are diff, our way of living, our traditions, dance ( knowing that we have manythings in common due to the neighbourhood exchange of culture) our music instruments are different, Islam came from the Arabian Gulf with a different concept of religion if you compare it to Christianity I am not saying that arabs are a shame for us at all, but the fact is that we are not them, they are not us
firasalam1 1 year ago
@firasalam1 u got a point but u got to explain it moer so other understand
nanushkas 1 year ago
@murggik I do repsect arabs but dont have any intention to ignore who we are as assyrians( people from the greater peninsula) arabs were desert tribes live in the ARABIAN gulf, Saoudi arabia, Emirates, Kuwait katar, bahrein,...we still pray in assyrian ( siriak) in our churches till now, so we speak this language only bcz they occupied our land, i cannot denie even that we had a mixed blood with them, but the environment define the nationality and the relation between our land and us
firasalam1 1 year ago
If anyone has some kind of links to the ancient Trading ships Phoenicians used, please share.
Im rebuilding Sabratha In 3Ds Max (Libya) ..... Also if anyone could share, What are the Phoenician-Roman Architectural Features, Used in those days.
What Paint or Stucco colour did Phoenicians use? What Goods, What Clothing, What Gods.
Peaceinlifenowar 1 year ago
Lebanon should be renamed Phoenicia
brightspark495 1 year ago 3
@brightspark495 that's what I think
hasanrules 1 year ago
the phenicians cames from lebanon !!
but lebanon now was not phenicians at all arabs, grec, jews, french ....
152Tarn 1 year ago
THE LEBANESE are PHOENICIANS and Mediterraneans ONLY.
they are from Lebanon-Phoenicia and from NOWHERE else
LebanonPhoenica 1 year ago
E1b1b1a3-V22 = Specific Phoenician Marker
E1b1b1-M35 = Sea faring Meditids
MedishPride 2 years ago
there is a new book "the phoenicians' heritage of new discoveries from all over the mediteranean coast sPecially the greek isles were the phoenicians founded many harbors and cities along their journey from cyprus,crete,santorini,malta sicali and many more.with all respect and appreciation to all ancient civilization around the world who influenced and helped our human civilized present a great admiration and appretation to the lebanese people who left there mark on the globe from east to west.
bvgatti 2 years ago
@bvgatti
Yes, the books calls "O Cavaleiro da Ilha do Corvo" ( Editora Bussola, S. Paulo, 2011 ), by Joaquim Fernandes. The Portuguese sailors, who in the 15th century, reached the small Corvo Island in the Azores for the first time, came upon an intriguing statue of a horseman with physical features characteristic of northern Africa...
unipessoa46 9 months ago
unipessoa46 9 months ago
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For Stifling Phoenician History, WE ACCUSE :
Eurocentrism, Judeocentrism, Arabists and Fundamentalist Christians
various forces impacted almost all Phoenician/ Canaanite subjects. Historians and archaeologists were predominantly inclined to Eurocentrism (especially Hellenistic supremacist who think that
the Greeks had exclusive access to knowledge)
or Judeocentrism. Specifically, Phoenician
were and are ignored so that all their work is
credited to the Greeks, Romans and Israelites.
LebanonPhoenica 2 years ago
THE LEBANESE-PHOENICIANS are from Lebanon-Phoenicia and from NOWHERE else © by May MURR, translated by Alfred MURR
Lebanese are Phoenicians and Mediterraneans ONLY. Not Arabs, Africans, Israelis or Europeans. Lebanon-Phoenicia is the Giant of Histories and the land of God
LebanonPhoenica 2 years ago
@LebanonPhoenica true, the world is jealous especially the Arabs
PhoenicanSailor 1 year ago
@LebanonPhoenica Bro i am from lebanon too,...we cannot be sure that we are 100% phonicians even if we have the DNA codes, for sure we are not arabs even if we are one of the arabic speaking nations( due to the islamic env) we can say that we are a combined race descending from hitties, assyrians, phoenicians, kaldan, kanaanites, all the civilizations lived and still living in the Peninsula,.... and thanks for being proud bro,....we are not arabs,...
firasalam1 1 year ago
@firasalam1 LOL cannanites and phoenicians are the same thing
issareign 8 months ago
@firasalam1: Africans are the true phoenicians..your white and tan skinned arab ansectors didnt exist in those parts..it was Africans..your arab ansctors came in modern history and conquered north africa thats why they are in lebanon. Learn the truth. You dont know who you are!
BLACKCARGORECORDS 8 months ago
THE LEBANESE-PHOENICIANS are from Lebanon-Phoenicia and from NOWHERE else © by May MURR, translated by Alfred MURR
LebanonPhoenica 2 years ago
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Phoenician history in Lebanon in particular at the educational level has been ignored and distorted, NOT out of ignorance, lack of responsibility or innocent mistake But out of extreme Spite and Evil Jealousy
The neglect of the Phoenician history is apparent and has become an objective for what Mr. Khalaf has referred to as officials and politicians in Lebanon.
LebanonPhoenica 2 years ago
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there is a CRIMINAL hidden agenda in Lebanon to forcefully "arabise" the country. That ILLEGAL hidden agenda became obvious with the Taif Accord which amended the Lebanese Constitution, and inserted in its preamble that "Lebanon is Arab in its identity and
in its association", an issue that the proponents
of Lebanese independence and the Champions of Greater Lebanon had opposed for centuries in particular the last one.
LebanonPhoenica 2 years ago
Phoenicias role and place under the sun shall be tirelessly preserved, and the "opponents" of civilization shall NOT be allowed to jeopardize them. Until then, we shall all remain sincere and truthful to the worthiest cause of all causes, ETERNAL PHOENICIA.
LebanonPhoenica 2 years ago
Having regard to the critical cultural assault that we are confronting and foremost the open attack on our Lebanese identity as the "Autochthones" of Phoenicia, our work should now be directed to halt the ongoing attack on our heritage. To this end, we shall never surrender until Phoenicia is truly resurrected and the spirit of our ancestors shall never rest until we rejoice the return of Phoenicia to its true place on the world scene.
LebanonPhoenica 2 years ago
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LebanonPhoenica 2 years ago
Long live our Phoenician Ancestors!
PhoenicanSailor 2 years ago
I INVITE EVEVERYONE... to my (youtube channel) to learn more about the people known as the Phoenicians as well as:
1. the genetic marker of the Phoenicians
2. their culture and folk-dance still practiced in (Lebanon, Palestine, and Syria) today
3. their music and ancient temple ruins
4. their descendants still living in (Lebanon and Carthage) and much more...
How to get to my (youtube channel) -- just click on my YOUTUBE SCREEN-NAME and it should take you right to my channel. Enjoy!
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PhoenicianGoddess 2 years ago
Please look up somthing called the mysterie stone in los lunas new mexico and let me know what you think : )
SmokeBox 2 years ago
Actually PHOENICIA today or what everyone knows as (Lebanon) is one of the most civilized and highly intellectual nations in the Middle East.
There is UNITY in Lebanon and trust me; there is great plans to put Lebanon back on the map as one of the best countries to visit in the world.
Have you seen the new architectural plans for Lebanon yet?
If you haven't then you should check out the videos I have favorite on my youtube channel.
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PhoenicianGoddess 2 years ago 3
O Cavaleiro da Ilha do Corvo
( Editora Bussola, S. Paulo, 2011 )
The Knight of Corvo Island
The Cristophoros Conspiracy
An enigmatic statue in the Atlantic and the Azores enigma
unipessoa46 9 months ago
Tragically, the Phoenicians who are still around today, are a disaster! Theyre in pieces & isolated into little fragments rather than being united into a league! Phoenicians in one corner look at the other as strangers! A disaster! The people of Malta & Lebanon are one & the same! Yet why has the Lebanese government NOT sent out an expedition ship full of politicians to Malta for stronger ties! Because they're too involved in US pop culture & pussy & bars & drinks! No one cares any more!
nico3212 2 years ago
U said the Lebanese are too involved in US pop culture & pu**y and bars and drinks, we Lebanese are too busy trying to protect ourselves from the Israelis. And trust me any pu**y u get in Lebanon wont be Lebanese so dont make it sound like we are all a bunch of whores because we are not!
Amooretliban 2 years ago
interesting film
JusticeVSpropaganda 2 years ago
PHOENICIANS & LEBANESE Y-DNA IS:
>>>>> Haplogroup J2 (M172) Y-DNA...
I think this video is very important because it shows us how hard it was for the Phoenicians of Lebanon to navigate the deep oceans of this world.
There is also a belief the Phoenicians were the first caucasoid people to have reached the United States thousands of years before Columbus or the Vikings :)
READ MY PROFILE... for more information on the Phoenicians and their descendants in Lebanon today.
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PhoenicianGoddess 3 years ago
thumb up sorry...
Ali2010sunny 2 years ago
White,brown,black of yellow if, you live in the butt of the world it makes no difference. Maybe some people find some comfort in being "white", while not having a decent meal on their table or roof over their head.
elpencil 3 years ago
Phoinicians are really the Cretans that survived the Santorini volcunic eruption and left their island and landed in Phoinicia.They named the area. Phoinix=the bird that rebirths itself from the ashes.
So yes, they where white, because they where Pelasgians, Hellenes.
Thiseas1974 3 years ago
I'm interested to crew. When is the departure and how long would it take to complete?
rama8888 3 years ago
ANCIENT PHOENICIANS' (CANAANITES) Y-DNA IS:
Haplogroup J2 (M172)
HAPLOGROUP J2 ARE COMMONLY FOUND IN:
Lebanese (Phoenicians), Maltese (Phoenicians), Syrian (Phoenicians), Anatolian-Turks, Ukranians, Armenians, Georgians, Croatians, Kurds, Italians, Iranians, Romanians, Hungarians, Ashkenazi/Shephardi Jews, Iberian Spaniards, Greeks, Albanians, Pashtuns, Cretans, Macedonians, and Indian uppercastes.
Haplogroup J2 -- is the genetic marker of the "ANATOLIAN NEOLITHIC AGRICULTURALISTS."
PhoenicianGoddess 3 years ago
ANCIENT PHOENICIANS' GENETIC MARKER IS:
HAPLOGROUP J2 (M172) Y-DNA
HAPLOGROUP (J) Y-DNA marker of most Middle Eastern people is closely related ONLY to HAPLOGROUP I (M170) Y-DNA (i.e. found only in European population).
BLACK PEOPLE (AFRICANS) GENETIC MARKERS ARE:
1. HAPLOGROUP A (M91) Y-DNA
2. HAPLOGROUP B (M60) Y-DNA
These black African markers are NOT RELATED to the genetic markers of the WHITE PHOENICIANS OF LEBANON... nor found anywhere in the LEVANT or CANAAN-LEBANON.
PhoenicianGoddess 3 years ago
@PhoenicianGoddess: Look there are no indigenous white people from that area so stop it.
BLACKCARGORECORDS 1 year ago
@BLACKCARGORECORDS Actually, there are.
yerk3 10 months ago
@yerk3: The oldest race on every continetn on this planet was black skinned as was the first man..period! BLACCKS ARE THE INDIGINOUS RACE OF THE ENTIRE PLANET EARTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT IS WHY WE WERE HATED FROM THE BEGINNING!!!!!!!!
BLACKCARGORECORDS 8 months ago
@BLACKCARGORECORDS That theory is ridiculous in so many different ways, and is supported by absolutely no evidence whatsoever. There is no evidence that there were sizable black populations outside of sub-Saharan Africa before at least the Medieval period, when Africans who had converted to Islam started moving through the predominantly Arab North Africa and into Spain and Southern Itay.
yerk3 8 months ago
@yerk3: You are misguided. You are trying to divide Africa using the white mans tactic of divide and conquer. Africa is not divided by the saharandesert which was not even there when the oldest Africans walked on the earth in Africa. Africa is Africa and it includes Egypt. There is no older race that is older than Africans that could have populated any parts of Africa before black Africans because black Africans are the first humans.
BLACKCARGORECORDS 8 months ago
@BLACKCARGORECORDS I'm not trying to "divide" anyone, I'm simply basing my position on the evidence at hand, rather than some pseudo-science that makes you feel good. Less than comfortable facts are always better than soothing lies. A trip to anywhere in North Africa will quickly clue you in that not everyone in Africa is black, and that Arabs are more dominant in the North, especially along the Mediterranean coast.
yerk3 7 months ago
@yerk3: The "arabs" as you call the light skin invaders..They came to Africa as conquerers long after Egytp. "Egytp oldest sites are actually in Sudan, home of the blackest people in the planet and the Nile river flows from the interior of Africa and north thru Egypt into the mediteranean. The oldest people in Africa and the world are found in the areas of Ethipoia, Kenya, Tanzania area. Africa was colonized first by Africans and what you see today is from invading nations.
BLACKCARGORECORDS 7 months ago
@BLACKCARGORECORDS They were there a bit earlier. If you're thinking of the Islamic conquest, that was a religious/cultural movement, not a migration of an entire population. It would be like saying all Europeans are Italian, because they were converted to Christianity by Roman missionaries. The Islamic conquest was carried out by converting the existing populations to Islam, not wiping them out and replacing them with settlers from the Arabian peninsula.
yerk3 7 months ago
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@yerk3: In case you didnt get it before: "The oldest race on every continetn on this planet was black skinned as was the first man..period! BLACCKS ARE THE INDIGINOUS RACE OF THE ENTIRE PLANET EARTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" Quote-me
BLACKCARGORECORDS 7 months ago
@BLACKCARGORECORDS The Pharonic civilization was centered in the Nile delta, not Sudan. Their culture and religion were born of the geography of the Nile delta: their gods had everything to do with the desert, the annual flood and its deposits of black silt over the land, their gods were anthropomorphized into the animals inhabiting the marshes of the delta, the reeds and lotus flowers of the marshes appear again and again in their art.
yerk3 7 months ago
@yerk3: Any Gods or religion on this entire planet came from blacks period. There is no white, arab, mongol, etc, that preceeds African human beings on this planet because we were the ones put here as indigenous people.
BLACKCARGORECORDS 7 months ago
@BLACKCARGORECORDS You've made yet another unfounded statement. Your argument is based entirely on the basis of what feels good to you, what instills the easy pride one takes from others who share some trait with them. Pride can only come from yourself personally, not from others who may have shared something as inconsequential as a skin tone or an ethnicity with you.
yerk3 7 months ago
@BLACKCARGORECORDS You're like the father from My Big Fat Greek Wedding, except in stead of rambling on about how the Greeks invented everything in the world, it's the blacks. You get this in every race, nationality, even gender, and it is always idiotic. Because someone of the same color as you was great, that does not mean that you are also great, and that goes for nationality, gender, religion, and every other trifling detail in which the ignorant vest a ridiculously inflated importance.
yerk3 7 months ago
@yerk3: YOU'RE AN IDIOT OK YOU WANT PROOF? LOUIS LEAKY, RICHARD LEAKY AND ALL OF THE WHITE UNIVERSITIES OF THE WORLD THAT ESTABLISHED AFRICA AS THE MOTHER RACE OF ALL CIVILZATION THE OLDEST HUMANS IN THE ENTIRE AREA OF AFRICA, THE ARABIA PENINSULA, ISRAEL AND THE ENTIRE PLANET EARTH..SO THERE IS YOUR PROOF, ITS CALLED THE SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY..YOU IDIOT!!
BLACKCARGORECORDS 7 months ago
@BLACKCARGORECORDS You must be serious, now that you've shifted to ALL CAPS. Yelling means you've lost the argument. You've only made more assertions, not evidence. Misquoting two professors does not a scientific consensus make.
yerk3 7 months ago
@yerk3: "You must be serious, now that you've shifted to ALL CAPS" hahaha. Ok I went Libra on you sorry. But my point is if that scientists say the first humans were Africans. Then it will make sense that the indigenous inhabitants of all lands were Africans as well. If we take a look acroos the globe this can, for the most part be verified. The negritos of Asia and the archipelago, The aboriginees, The grimaldi, The caribs, wahitaw and also many native americans, etc..follow this?
BLACKCARGORECORDS 7 months ago
@BLACKCARGORECORDS First off "scientists" don't say any one thing. It doesn't matter what point you're trying to prove, whatever it is, you'll probably find one or two scientists who agree, no matter how valid or flawed their science actually is.
yerk3 6 months ago
@BLACKCARGORECORDS Of course all humans came from Africa, but this is something that happened over a million years ago, before any of the modern races existed. If one of them were to be transported to our time, they wouldn't be identifiable as any modern race. That developed much later.
yerk3 6 months ago
@yerk3: "before any of the modern races existed." The African race is a modern race first of all. There isnt an old and new race. There is Homo Sapien and the first Homo Sapiens were in Africa and they looked exactly like the Africans there today. Africans have straight hair as well if u didn't know. They also have curly hair, red hair, blond hair, blue, green eyes and all of the triats that you see in modern man. Some look Asian and some look european with thin noses. Many characteristics.
BLACKCARGORECORDS 6 months ago
@BLACKCARGORECORDS Native Americans are not black. They have straight hair and copper colored skin for the most part, and many would object not only to you saying that they were of African origin, but even to the Bering Strait theory. My mom knew an Indian who believed that they had originated in North America since the beginning, that the land itself had birthed their ancestors and they'd never come from any other continent.
yerk3 6 months ago
@yerk3: Look up the Washitaw and the Carib. They are black native americans and so were the Sioux. You really dont know what you are talking about. It sounds like you are quoting all of the idiot college phd professors that I have already defeated in this debate. You don't know what you are talking about because you have not studied Africa or the African diaspora, like the negritos in Asia. You would not be able to hang with my knowledge on Africa and u dont believe they are worthy humans!
BLACKCARGORECORDS 6 months ago
@BLACKCARGORECORDS The Carib are not black, nor are the Sioux. They may have had dark skin, especially in old photographs, but that was because when those photographs were taken, they still had a relatively nomadic way of life and were out riding for long stretches of time in the sun.
yerk3 6 months ago
@BLACKCARGORECORDS You haven't defeated anyone in any debate. You have an ethno-centric fairytale that you keep promoting because it makes you feel proud without actually having to do anything. This is not something unique, every race has them, because everyone, regardless of race, likes being able to be proud of things but usually hates doing the things that might merit pride. So they concoct fairytales about how their ancestors were the coolest people in the world and invented everything.
yerk3 6 months ago
@yerk3:I am not seeing how it is fairytale. There is evidence in Egypt/Ethiopia/South Africa/The Saharan desert/Sudan/Carthage, all of these places are African. There is evidence in Europe as far as physical skeletal remains with jewelry, that are African. In fact many British "pure" whites have African anscetory from a more closer time that "Lucy" There are still African "tribes" that colonize Asia. There is plenty evidence so u have the burden of proving that it is a fairytale before u accuse.
BLACKCARGORECORDS 6 months ago
@BLACKCARGORECORDS You say "there is evidence," but you never mention any of this specific evidence. Which evidence would this be?
yerk3 6 months ago
@yerk3: "So they concoct fairytales about how their ancestors were the coolest people in the world and invented everything."...Dude there are pictures of U.F.O'S, light bulbs and hydraulic mining drills in Egypt. In Mali they knew about Planets and specific things like moons and even the weights of certain stars. They already knew this. The Dogon tribe they are the Egyptians from Egypt and they will tell you that. You don't klnow enough about Africa to have this debate with me so u loose!
BLACKCARGORECORDS 6 months ago
@BLACKCARGORECORDS There are no pictures of UFOs, light bulbs or hydraulic equipment in ancient Egypt. I have seen these claims before, and I have seen them debunked. The whole "ancient aliens" theory relies on a vast and complete ignorance of ancient societies.
yerk3 6 months ago
@BLACKCARGORECORDS The Dogon are not Egyptians, and I somehow doubt that they would even claim to be. There are actually a lot of people in Africa who get pissed when American Afrocentrists try to claim that they're the same people as the ancient Egytpians. They have their own distinct tribal identities, folklore and creation myths, and nothing pisses them off more than some clueless American claiming that they're someone else from who they are.
yerk3 6 months ago
@yerk3: The Dogon themselves say that they learned of the cosmos from Nomo a reptile race that would emerge from the water around the Sphinx and teach people and go back when the sun came out. You don't know African folklore. The "Arabs" are africoid. You believe that the light skin arabs are arabs..NO THEY ARE MULATTO! You have no proof that the Egyptians are a seperate race. Are you saying that the Egyptians weren't blacks Africans, related to other black Africans?
BLACKCARGORECORDS 6 months ago
@BLACKCARGORECORDS Lots of different peoples have different creation myths with different magical and divine entities who have any number of natural or animal attributes. The Dogon may have believed in lizard gods, the Greeks believed in gods with wings on their feet and female bird demons, some Celtic peoples had gods who looked like men with deer antlers. Either they're all true or none are true.
yerk3 6 months ago
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@yerk3: "Either they're all true or none are true." Not a true statement.
BLACKCARGORECORDS 6 months ago
@BLACKCARGORECORDS Plus, the very fact that the Dogon had such beliefs actually works against any notion that they had anything to do with the Egyptians, as Egyptian mythology had no such lizard people. They had gods who had the attributes of hawks, ibises, bulls, scarab beetles, jackals and whatever creature Set was supposed to be, but no lizards. The closest there ever came to being lizard gods is when Set took the form of a crocodile during his battle with Horus and lost.
yerk3 6 months ago
@BLACKCARGORECORDS "Africoid" isn't even a word. The Arabs may have had some distant roots in Africa, but no more than all humans, but this was before migrations which occurred before natural selection led to the modern races. The Arabs in North Africa moved there from the Eastern Mediterranean before the Upper Nile civilizations.
yerk3 6 months ago
@yerk3: The Arabs are from Arabia. Arabians are related to Ethiopians like Yemens. They are orig9inal black semitic speaking cultures all of them. "Most of the Middle East is now formed by conventionally called "Arab countries", recently invented by the British and French rulers after having defeated and dismembered the Ottoman Empire." You are confused, everything in that region started BLACK AFRICAN PERIOD. THE "PYGMIES" HAVE EVERY RACE KNOWN TO MAN AMONG THEM!
BLACKCARGORECORDS 6 months ago
@BLACKCARGORECORDS The Arabs are named after Arabia, but have settled throughout the lower Mediterranean thousands of years ago. The Arabs are not related to the Ethiopians unless they intermarried. There were no "black semitic speaking cultures." The original Semitic people are depicted in the earliest art as having brown skin, not black.
yerk3 5 months ago
@yerk3: There were no "black semitic speaking cultures." ...HUh? The semitic language is in the AFRO-ASIATIC language family. AFRO as in African, so I think you need to go back and like I said. You true ignorance and lack of study on Africa is showing now. This is about the time where if we were in a debate I would use this flaw of yours to make you look very foolish and u would loose all credibility..RIGHT ABOUT HERE! If we keep dragging this out, you will loose credibility again.
BLACKCARGORECORDS 5 months ago
@yerk3: You are trying to make a point but your knowledge of Africa is lacking because your learning is western. You can tell me all about the Greeks and Romans but if I ask you about the Nok culture of Africa who were doing metallurgy when the western world were near neaderthals...There are so many examples of this and you can't fathom the richness and variation of cultures in all of Africa. You have been brainwashed w images of starving ethiopian kids!
BLACKCARGORECORDS 5 months ago
@yerk3:"The Nok culture appeared in Nigeria around 1000 B.C. and mysteriously vanished around 500 AD in the region of West Africa. This region lies in Central Nigeria. The culture’s social system is thought to have been highly advanced. The Nok culture was considered to be the earliest sub-Saharan producer of life-sized Terracotta. It is suggested that the society eventually evolved into the later Yoruba Kingdom of Ife." 1000 b.c...You have no cultures that predate Africa...PERIOD POINT BLANK!!
BLACKCARGORECORDS 5 months ago
@yerk3: "Africa is the cradle of human race. Anthropologists have unearthed the oldest human skeletons in East Africa in places such as Hadar, Olduvai, Laetoli. One of the best preserved human remnants is a female skeleton found at Hadar in Ethiopia." You have no evidence, you are just talking. I can keep doing this all day, where is your "Lebanese" ancient skulls? They don't exist they are African fool!!!!
BLACKCARGORECORDS 5 months ago
@BLACKCARGORECORDS This does not prove that the Lebanese were black. This is a non-sequitur.
yerk3 5 months ago
@yerk3: You can call me a clueless American all you want. I am not clueless and the only way I am an American is because I am Eastern Piedmont Sioux "Saponi." If you look at the original inhabitants they are all black africans. They do not look like white and light skin green eye arabs who are mulatto!
BLACKCARGORECORDS 6 months ago
@BLACKCARGORECORDS Yes, you are clueless. Your idea of the different races is absurdly over-simplistic. To believe in this binary of black and white ignores the vast majority of people in the world.
yerk3 6 months ago
@BLACKCARGORECORDS The Sioux are not black, and there are actually a lot of Indians who would be insulted by such a suggestion, as it would imply that their ancestors colonized this land from elsewhere, when their own creation myths and folk histories say that their ancestors were birthed from the very ground of the continent of North America.
yerk3 6 months ago
@BLACKCARGORECORDS Folk histories aside, the indigenous people of North America share basically no black features at all. Most notably, they almost as a whole have famously straight black hair, something that is simply not found among the native populations of Africa anywhere South of the Sahara. To date, your assertions have been backed up by absolutely no evidence whatsoever.
yerk3 6 months ago
@BLACKCARGORECORDS Arabs are not Mulato, nor is green a very common eye color among Arabs. Sure, there are some Arabs who have green eyes, but they are far outnumbered by the ones with brown eyes. You are far more likely to find green-eyed Persians or Afghans than Arabs. Furthermore, Arabs are known to have darker skin. Again, there are more races in the world than "white" and "black."
yerk3 6 months ago
@BLACKCARGORECORDS Race is a continuum, there are millions of shades between white and black, and if you lined them up from lightest to darkest, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference in hue between one and the one directly next to him.
yerk3 6 months ago
@BLACKCARGORECORDS As for me not knowing anything about Africa, everything you know about Africa you read from either an ethnic nationalist propaganda pamphlet or from David Icke.
yerk3 6 months ago
@yerk3: If you don't even know about the subject that you are trying to debate, then how the hell is anybody going to take you serious? You do know that Egypt extended all the way past Lebanon and into Syria, don't you? The phoenicians, the Cannaaites were in that region. The Caanaaites are the family of Ham AND mIZRAIM-eGYPT. Your world view is highly skewed. The ancient world were blacks. They were the first people here on the planet, the indigenpous race of planet earth. You dont get it son.
BLACKCARGORECORDS 6 months ago
@BLACKCARGORECORDS And now you're projecting. You're the one who doesn't know what you're talking about. Your entire argument rests on ethnocentric pseudo-science and conspiracy theories.
yerk3 6 months ago
@BLACKCARGORECORDS Yes, I do know that the Egyptians conquered parts of the Levant, what is still unclear is what bearing this has on the subject at hand. What, did everyone catch black from the Egyptians? Are you proposing that they slaughtered everyone and brought in settlers who looked like them? And even this is going on the base assumption that the Egyptian pharonic caste was black, which comes from yet more ethnocentric pseudoscience.
yerk3 6 months ago
@BLACKCARGORECORDS The Canaanites were not black. They were Arab. The Biblical story of Ham is both irrelevant and a load of racist bullshit. The entire Bible is nothing but a collection of superstitions from a barbaric, warlike tribe, passed down by word of mouth for centuries, mutating countless times before finally being written down. It is schizophrenic gibberish with no bearing on historical fact.
yerk3 6 months ago
@BLACKCARGORECORDS Your worldview is the one that is skewed. The theory that the "ancients" were all black contradicts all historical records and existing archaeological evidence.
yerk3 6 months ago
@BLACKCARGORECORDS As for all of your repeated, grandiose claims about blacks being the "original" people of the entire planet Earth, are you one of the people who believe that all white people are part of an ancient, evil experiment to create a creature with no soul?
yerk3 6 months ago
@yerk3: [40,000 to 28,000 years ago].. The ancient Grimaldi woman and boy are of the mixed or negroid type...To appreciate the true significance of a negroid race in the south of Europe towards the close of the Glacial Period, we must look at the distribution of moden races.......wysinger......homestead.....com/grimaldi.html
BLACKCARGORECORDS 7 months ago
@BLACKCARGORECORDS Before that, the only blacks in Europe had been Africans from Sudan who had been bought as slaves by the Romans, and later freed (Roman slavery was different from American slavery in that it was not for life, much less multi-generational, a Roman slave was usually freed after about a decade of service) and became citizens, soldiers, merchants and at least one Emperor.
yerk3 8 months ago
@yerk3: The blacks in Europe are the Grimaldi and they are older than any group of "white europeans" in Europe [Google: Grimaldi in europe]. There are no Romans or any other Europeans that were on the ENTIRE PLANET EARTH before blacks. So for you to assume that the first blacks were bought to Rome as slaves is completely IDIOTIC!!!!! Every person on this planet has a genetic dna identifier that is from Africa. The white mans western education has got you confused homie!
BLACKCARGORECORDS 8 months ago
@BLACKCARGORECORDS Telling other people to do the research for you by saying "Google it" is a lazy tactic and will not work with me. Explain here who the "Grimaldi" are, and I will refute whatever ethnocentric pseudo-science you're using.
yerk3 7 months ago
@yerk3: Here go the original black african caananites..They are black africans period!!! watch?v=Z8XVILm-sn8
BLACKCARGORECORDS 7 months ago
@BLACKCARGORECORDS You showed me a video with black shepherds. Who they are, where they came from or even where the video is shot is never verified. The guy made some vague references to "Israel," but never verified any of it, and besides he sounded more like a preacher than a scientist, and I have a good ear for preachers making claims about the so-called "Holy Land." Your video link tactic fails. Next.
yerk3 7 months ago
@BLACKCARGORECORDS That history on its own is interesting and worth more attention than it's been given, and one of the historical movies I would certainly make if I had the funds would be about Septimus Severus, who was black, and who was one of the more important emperors in late-Roman history.
yerk3 8 months ago