I have a problem with my swing-up and was wondering if anyone could help? From a four step holding down on the pole (for drills) i can swing up fine. But my issue is converting the swing-up onto 8 lefts full run.
Well if you have ever tried to swing on a high bar you notice that you cannot swing with your arms in front of you. Same thing with the row. It causes your arms to move in front of your body, which stops you from swinging.
rowing causes one to try to meet the hands to the feet and eventually extend off the pole. i used to not really row, but after my coach mentioned it, it definitely made about a 6" or 1' difference
Dont bring your hands to your feet, bring your hips to your hands! This requires you to break at the hips a little, but the important thing is to stay as long as possible as you swing.
He doesn't crash into the pole because after his high plant, he keeps the left high and relaxed and allows it to stretch upwards. Also, Petrov would argue (and I would agree) that the left arm does absolutely nothing to properly bend the pole. If the left is used to bend, it simply creates an improper overbend and also gives an improper point for the pole to bend around. Pulling is necessary, as it accelerates the swing and allows the vaulter to invert much more quickly.
what was that thing about prematurley turning left, i do that and when i vault instead of going straight i move to the side, and im not too sure how to fix it
i've been vaulting for about five years now and there are a few reasons why to are going to the side. the one that mostly is to blame is a late plant or you're just under. if this happens people often plant with their top hand a little bit to one side.(if you're right handed its to the right and the other way to the left).
a premature turn can really through off your vault. this is especially a problem if you're turning with your shoulders rather than your hips or legs. it can cause your pole to recoil to soon and this is often to the side.
The only thing i disagree with is the fact that on the repeated example of the drive swing, the vaulter's left arm is bent. The Clip doesn't show him tkaing off with a straight left arm. Beginners should try to keep that arm straight to maintain a good bend and swing.
Budka? i think you mean Sergey "Bubka" the "God" of pole VAULT.
And it doesnt matter who it is.
This is a video of the Fundamentals targeted at Beginners. I'm not saying that the vaulter is wrong, im saying that the Video doesnt show enough of the take off prior to the swong. Get it?
yes and no, having a straight arm will bend the pole but will prevent them from breaking in their left arm. push, but dont lock your arm. do you see budka with a straight arm, no and thats why he gets so freaking high
Well yeah, but that's why i said that he needs to "take off with a straight arm". I never said to keep it like that the whole time. Bubka does have a straight arm when he takes off which is why i said tht they need to show that part.
Conclusion:
Push pole with straight left arm at take off. During swing, keep pushing pole but do not lock arm.
I think this is one of those areas where there are different schools of thought. During the takeoff, the left arm should certainly push hard. During the swing, some vaulters keep it straight, some don't. Kjell Isaksson, who was a technical marvel, preached easing up on the left arm pressure to ease the drive swing, then pushing back hard to accelerate the swing-up - an evolved version of your advice. Can't find a vid of Kjell's early 70s vaulting, but Bubka does pretty much the same thing.
Bubka didn't push with his left though. The only reason his left is straight at take-off is because he has a high plant. The left arm is actually very relaxed, and then it actually pulls when the swing up is initiated, kind of as an attempt to unbend the pole.
I disagree, except re. the part about the high plant. With that much forward momentum, he *must* work hard with the left not to crash into the pole. Isaksson added the notion of giving an extra push when planting the pole, to increase the bending action (a natural extension of the takeoff jump). Also, no pulling is necessary - he just needs to "push a little less" in order to begin rotating inwards.
In the beginning
NHSpolevaulter 1 week ago
That guy is crushing the f*** out of that pole
NHSpolevaulter 1 week ago
I have a problem with my swing-up and was wondering if anyone could help? From a four step holding down on the pole (for drills) i can swing up fine. But my issue is converting the swing-up onto 8 lefts full run.
bpalm93 8 months ago
why you gotta show a black guy pole vaulting the wrong way...
TnT326SH 1 year ago 2
yah i agree with urteos i have practiced a lot with pat and the row is near essential to the vault especially once you get on bigger poles
MasianMan 2 years ago
I dissagree with the warning not to "row" it is now taught (by Brad Walker's college coach, Pat Licari) that rowing is essential to the vault.
urtoes 3 years ago 3
Well if you have ever tried to swing on a high bar you notice that you cannot swing with your arms in front of you. Same thing with the row. It causes your arms to move in front of your body, which stops you from swinging.
flognisms 3 years ago 2
rowing causes one to try to meet the hands to the feet and eventually extend off the pole. i used to not really row, but after my coach mentioned it, it definitely made about a 6" or 1' difference
runninriot15 3 years ago
it's not a row, just simply moving the pole back into position above you where you can swing to it
MoSoVaulter 2 years ago 2
Dont bring your hands to your feet, bring your hips to your hands! This requires you to break at the hips a little, but the important thing is to stay as long as possible as you swing.
PelletierPV 2 years ago
He doesn't crash into the pole because after his high plant, he keeps the left high and relaxed and allows it to stretch upwards. Also, Petrov would argue (and I would agree) that the left arm does absolutely nothing to properly bend the pole. If the left is used to bend, it simply creates an improper overbend and also gives an improper point for the pole to bend around. Pulling is necessary, as it accelerates the swing and allows the vaulter to invert much more quickly.
Nemkapovic 3 years ago
what was that thing about prematurley turning left, i do that and when i vault instead of going straight i move to the side, and im not too sure how to fix it
gta43089 3 years ago
i've been vaulting for about five years now and there are a few reasons why to are going to the side. the one that mostly is to blame is a late plant or you're just under. if this happens people often plant with their top hand a little bit to one side.(if you're right handed its to the right and the other way to the left).
sexybeastofkonoha 3 years ago
a premature turn can really through off your vault. this is especially a problem if you're turning with your shoulders rather than your hips or legs. it can cause your pole to recoil to soon and this is often to the side.
hope i helped ya out :)
vault on buddy!!!!!!!!!!
sexybeastofkonoha 3 years ago
This has helped my vaulting a whole bunch.
wallmunky503 3 years ago
dumas ur suppose to bend ur arm and work on ur swing in that drill
sktrboy254 3 years ago
The only thing i disagree with is the fact that on the repeated example of the drive swing, the vaulter's left arm is bent. The Clip doesn't show him tkaing off with a straight left arm. Beginners should try to keep that arm straight to maintain a good bend and swing.
vaultersupreme 4 years ago
do you know who that is??? thats Budka. you know the god of pole valt.
babycheff 3 years ago
Budka? i think you mean Sergey "Bubka" the "God" of pole VAULT.
And it doesnt matter who it is.
This is a video of the Fundamentals targeted at Beginners. I'm not saying that the vaulter is wrong, im saying that the Video doesnt show enough of the take off prior to the swong. Get it?
vaultersupreme 3 years ago 3
keeping your arm straight deffinatly is one of the many fundamentals that is crutial to get straight when begining
VINELANDSWIMMING 3 years ago 2
yup... i agree... but "when begining" is key...
paulchandz 3 years ago 2
yes and no, having a straight arm will bend the pole but will prevent them from breaking in their left arm. push, but dont lock your arm. do you see budka with a straight arm, no and thats why he gets so freaking high
lessdannickandpj 3 years ago
Well yeah, but that's why i said that he needs to "take off with a straight arm". I never said to keep it like that the whole time. Bubka does have a straight arm when he takes off which is why i said tht they need to show that part.
Conclusion:
Push pole with straight left arm at take off. During swing, keep pushing pole but do not lock arm.
vaultersupreme 3 years ago
I think this is one of those areas where there are different schools of thought. During the takeoff, the left arm should certainly push hard. During the swing, some vaulters keep it straight, some don't. Kjell Isaksson, who was a technical marvel, preached easing up on the left arm pressure to ease the drive swing, then pushing back hard to accelerate the swing-up - an evolved version of your advice. Can't find a vid of Kjell's early 70s vaulting, but Bubka does pretty much the same thing.
uwiger 3 years ago
Bubka didn't push with his left though. The only reason his left is straight at take-off is because he has a high plant. The left arm is actually very relaxed, and then it actually pulls when the swing up is initiated, kind of as an attempt to unbend the pole.
Nemkapovic 3 years ago
I disagree, except re. the part about the high plant. With that much forward momentum, he *must* work hard with the left not to crash into the pole. Isaksson added the notion of giving an extra push when planting the pole, to increase the bending action (a natural extension of the takeoff jump). Also, no pulling is necessary - he just needs to "push a little less" in order to begin rotating inwards.
uwiger 3 years ago
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just finished sophomore year with 12'...I still hate the old guy but the videos are helpful
flyingace451 4 years ago
the last jump in the video was good:) hehe
lotiapathan 4 years ago
Go on /watch?v=h7nyj1XtBVA for more pole vault
chooseyourusername 4 years ago
1:30 has to be the most annoying sequence of video i have ever seen
skpower92 4 years ago
hey who are those two "elite vaulters"?
rhsxc19 4 years ago
im a 8th grader and i got 10'6
tylerCrawford1212 4 years ago
Im soph and going 13'6 ne one beat me? o yah i still dont got the pull-turn....
MasianMan 4 years ago
u almost gettin it? im a junior goin 14'7 but as a soph i only went like 8'6 lol
rhsxc19 4 years ago
wow thats a big jump from sophomore to junior year. what did u do to get such a big jump?
anj085 4 years ago
Well i just studied proper form like crazy until i could practically coach it. Then i executed it with of hesitation.
the other big thing is that i changed my pole to a slightly smaller one that i was more comfortable on.
thats pretty much it, i just practiced alot until i was comfortable. those are like the three big things i changed...
rhsxc19 4 years ago
yeah im a soph going 14' =P
tbenjaminkx42 2 years ago
i HATED the drive swing but i needed the tips on the pull turn it helped a lot
paulchandz 4 years ago
Great info and tips, just drove me nuts on the drive swing part.
Kissmybumper234 4 years ago
The drive swing part was verying annoying, i almost threw up.
blehblehbleh124 5 years ago
I actually bought this video cassette!
lulustu 5 years ago