Liverpool Five - I'm Not Your Stepping Stone (1966)

[Mzepesisfre]

I have this 45....great to hear!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[digdugs57]

There are many different versions of this song done by many bands. There are two versions i would have to say are tops. This one because it has a true mod feel to it and the other one is by The Flies because it has more of a psych sound than The Monkees version.

[MsLoosylou]

@digdugs57 How right you are...the rest are wankers.

[MrCohan13]

i like paul revere's version..!

[MrCohan13]

this song was the closest to rock and roll by the monkees..my fav anyway

[7734Duke]

almost verbatim to the ORIGINAL VERSION by Paul Revere and the Raiders

[KOOLEO329]

@7734Duke Gotta disagree wid ya, you need the facts..This is the only recorded version with the added response lines " Let me be now" and " Set me free now" in the chorus. The Yardbirds borrowed those lines for their stage version after playing some gigs with the LP5. FYI, the Revere version was recorded slightly later than this one, altho the albums came out in the same month. In addition, the Revere version is virtually a verbatim copy of the Boyce and Hart demo disc given to both groups.

[7734Duke]

@KOOLEO329

The Liverpool Five lp with the cut is RCA 3583. Jefferson Airplane's first album was RCA 3584 and it began charting

in Billboard 9-17-66. Paul Revere's was cut 1-4-66. Without a recording date for the L5's, it sure looks like Paul's

was earlier.

[KOOLEO329]

@7734Duke Let's call a truce.What is 'Original" anyway? Boyce and Hart wrote and recorded it first .The LP5 had included it in their stage act by late 1965, which was when they started recording tunes for their"Arrive" album ( altho not completed and released until 1966). When they actually recorded their released version of "Stepping Stone" I do not know..nor does it really matter.However, my points concerning "verbatim" and added lines remain as valid differences between the two versions.

[charlyW34]

By trying to be as tough as possible, something is lost. the Monkees version is more dangerous, coming from such a lovable bunch of mop tops. The real genius is in the writing (Boyce and Hart).

[MB300TE]

@charlyW34 Cannot agree with ya...Kooleo got it right...this is the most dangerous delivery of this well written B&H tune that was given first by them to the L,pool Five.

[charlyW34]

@MB300TE Hi I mistakenly posted my response to kooleo Cheers!

[MB300TE]

@charlyW34 Cheers back at ya.I like your latest comments.It was quite fortunate that the Monkees were using the same studios as the LP5 a few weeks later ( RCA on Sunset in LA) to record their version with some of the same engineers too. They even used the same restroom when the L'pool Five were recording other tunes at RCA. Boyce and Hart always liked the LP5 version despite the Monkees making them a whole lot more money.Glad to see them finally getting deserved recognition. ..

[20FlightBlues]

The Outer Limits version is better than this IMHO, should check that gem out too

[20FlightBlues]

this is a good version, has some oomph in it, nice

[panhead58ful]

checked out , the flies version, it sucks

[MermaidPrincess9]

Thanks for the post man .. i thought i knew every band from the British Invasion era but i cant believe i never heard these guys..they are great. awesome sound. this is such a great song and there are so many versions out there. I here a definite yardbyrds influence in Lp5 sound. but very cool stuff.

[Calipalli]

This version really is the one with the bollocks

[POPAVIDEO]

ultra rarissime FRENCH EP !

[Rinkydinkism]

I'm new to these guys but they are very good on this tune as they are on a few others I have found on You Tube.

[thecclproject1]

Anyone else think the second guy from the right looks a bit like John Lennon?

[MB300TE]

@thecclproject1 He's a bit taller than Lennon.....and I think he is the keyboard player.

[445Frogger]

For what it's worth I think this version is a shade more inventive than both the Monkees and the Raiders .The guitar sound definately has more balls!!!

[ClearMindedOne]

Respectfully disagree with placing this version at the top of the heap. It just sounds like a garage band compared to the crack LA musicians heard on the Monkees' version or the great original release by the Raiders (Mark Lindsay's voice is light years above these vocals). This ironically does not sound as angry or intense to me as the Monkees' version, just less professional. This is more in the vain of Syndicate of Sound. My humble opinion is that there was a reason it didn't make it! Sorry.

[Oddsman57]

@ClearMinded...Nice comment with your personal opinion. But here's mine. The top session musicians used by the Monkees produced a tight recording that was quite sterile in comparison to the fuzz driven LP5 version recorded earlier by them in the same RCA Victor studio , and which inspired the Monkees to record the tune. That same LP5 earlier in the year toured with ML. PR and the Raiders and introduced them to this tune.Many factors affect record sales and success and what is best is relative.

[ClearMindedOne]

@Oddsman57 Quite the contrary. I would say the Monkees' version is the most musically dynamic and intense of the various known Stepping Stone versions (I say this being a PR fan), from the bludgeoning guitar, the intense vocal delivery, driving drums, and the frenzy of the swirling 8' organ. The LP5 is certainly more progressive sounding and has some interesting guitar chops reminiscent of Beck-era Yardbirds. We will have to agree to disagree on this one! Agree about the sales/success comment.

[Oddsman57]

@ClearMindedOne Yes, let's agree to disagree on this one. But nevertheless those three groups will be linked together for one reason or another.Peace Out!!!!

[POPAVIDEO]

extremely rare FRENCH EP !

ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND .

[MsLoosylou]

@POPAVIDEO I think you are correct...the EP shown is that rare French one

[gk10002000]

Christ. This is the bomb. Thanks for posting. I used to wear out the 45 RPM of the Monkee's version that my friend had when we were kids. Flip side was I'm a Believer. This song is the reason I took up guitar! That and the entry to "WIld in the Streets" song Nothiing can change the shape of things

[Loverockdog69]

Best version of this tune...most others are wankers compred to these guys.

[TheFabulousAnouska]

Groovy!

[Philtration]

Wow.

I kind of thought that I knew a lot about music but I had never heard of this band at all.

Nice discovery tonight!

[Bevity]

Thanks M1ke with a One and not an i. I am now a fan too! I never heard of them before, but it's better late than never.

[m1kewithaone]

well i grew up hearing the monkeys version, so it's the one i want to hear. but, most deffinantly this band rocks! it's my kinda sound. love that guitar. why didn't i hear them in the '60s?? i was totally there!! i heard "the electric prunes" doing "i had too much to dream last night"! but i didn't hear these guys. i heard somebody doing, "physcotic reaction" but i didn't hear these guys! so now, i have to go find out what else they do... osm!

[beatlefan157333]

woo hoo the counter got going!

[escritora08]

How come I never heard of this group before? I have heard of many of the British Invastion groups of the 1960s, starting with the Beatles and the Rolling Stones.

[ENS64]

@escritora08 The Lp5 are one of the best kept secrets of 1960s ock n roll music. Only recently have their ever increasing number of fans found theri music on You Tube. Currently there are close to twenty sites with their music. I found them first on " Nuggets from the Liverpool Five ( Part1) and .( Part 2)". The comments tell a lot about their unique history, starting in England and ending up in the US..A very versatile band well worth investigating.

[joesphx19]

@ENS64

I just can't seem to remember them, I was twelve then. This band has to rank near the top of that early transition from British Invasion to Garage Band. Youtube is like a time machine. Thanks so much.

[MB300TE]

Like a couple of other LP5 trax on the Tube, this one's view counter has been frozen on 301 . Nevertheless it still rocks.

[Aristeo509]

I like it, but I kind of prefer the Monkees.

[beatlefan157333]

this is so intense! way better than the monkees...

[Roxsox221]

Based on my observations on other Yu Tube LP5 trax, let's see how long the counter stays stuck on 301 views

[KOOLEO329]

F*** the Sex Pistols, the Monkees and Paul Revere, this version is definately the one with bollocks.

[WorldCitizen667]

@KOOLEO329

check: the version of "the Flies", that's the one with the BIGGEST bollocks!!

[charlyW34]

@KOOLEO329 Hi, of course this version is "tougher". My point was that by exposing the tune to millions, even with a muted snarl, the Monkees version was more subversive. No disrespect meant, but I can't imagine many folks even heard the Liverpool Five version at the time. Cheersl

[theonlyantony]

@charlyW34 Good point!

[voxhammer]

@KOOLEO329

[voxhammer]

@voxhammer And I mean it,too!

[sharonreason]

Great version of this song--much better by the Monkees.. Nice other people have discovered the music of this fantastic group!

[MB300TE]

WTF...it's about time this one turned up again on YU Tube. Gotta agree that it is so much better than most others, even the Sex Pistols later attempt seems lame up against this one. Bollocks mate

[Roxsox221]

Fantastic recording...definately the best version of this tune....so much better than the Monkees and Paul Revere. Great posting