I was a victim for 13 years. I served on a TM Board of Advisors. Trust me-it’s a mind control money cult; ruined my health, finances and relationships. See the documentary DAVID WANTS TO FLY before you get “initiated”. The “science” they spew is flawed and biased. Countless scientific studies have shown that TM is no more effective than repeating the word “one”. Where is the “world peace” they promised 30 years ago? Save your money and practice mindfulness meditation or self-inquiry. Both FREE!
transcendental meditation is watered down hinduism without giving credit to all the sages who helped develop these techniques. to me it represents a bad form of new age thinking. read the bhagavad gita, and you'll get much more out of it. or maybe even the four gospels of jesus, or the tao te ching by lao tzu, or the diamond sutra and the teachings of siddhartha gautama, or even the socratic dialogues by plato. TM only works on people who know little history and are easily fooled by false gurus.
Thx 4the efforts u put in creatg this video & writg ur paper. I'm glad that @this point in ur life u dont need 2meditate. I'm wonderg however whether meditation by itself has any benefits & if it has, whether it's possible 2meditate without gettg involved in any organized groups? When people r @ a vulnerable stage in their life they gravitate towards copg mechanisms. Some get into abusg substance, some start meditatg, some become depressed. Considerg ur experience what do u recommend? Thx.
@RUinEarnest - Thank you so much for your nice comment. You can certainly start practicing TM without getting involved. You can also find some techniques on the Internet that work just as well. I don't exactly know what would be good for you but definitely stay away from drugs. :-) Hope you find something.
@RUinEarnest - If you do consider getting involved with a group just watch out for the ones that say they are the best or who say to not try anything else while you are with them. Maybe just watch out for them all and do some breathing exercises. or something. I take not responsibility for what I suggest though. :-)
You really want to know what I'm trying right now? I'm on a medication for bipolar disorder. There! I said it. Just started a new one. We shall see how that goes. I'm only taking 1/4 of a pill and thinking of cutting back to 1/8 of a pill. Strange stuff, man.....
father malachi martin warned against TM.he says it leaves people open to the middle plateau--where demons etc reside.leaves people vulnerable to harrassment by evil entities.
The entities themselves. Maharishi spoke little of this but at finer levels of thought there exists a world of subtle beings, some of whom resent your intrusion.
@7711082Yes I agree it is a spiritual battle.Catholic saints were attacked by demons because they were a threat to evil. So that ties in somewhat with what you say about intrusion.-What Father Martin spoke about,however, was more about carelessly leaving oneself open to this 'middle plateau' without protection.That middle plateau being attained in the transcendental state. Being an exorcist most of his life he had some insight into these matters.
@TheEternalLight1 Thanks for making it clear that giving a fruit to a picture doesn't mean anything, TM is supposed to be scientific, and to practiced it for its effectiveness i don't need to believe that who introduced TM did not die, they just left their bodies! one more thing, those people who did not change faith, I heard a priest saying thanks to Vedic gods for this! and I met this jewish lady who believed that Maharishi is in Heaven! so my friend what about this faith?
If TM is not religion, why would i give fruit to a picture during the initiation, why would my teacher say this
" Guru in the glory of Brahma. Guru in the glory of Vishnu. Guru in the glory of the great Lord Shiva. Guru in the glory of the personified transcendented fullness of Brahman, to Him, to Shri Guru Dev adorned with glory, I bow down."
I just started practicing the TM technique again about four days ago. I'm going to give it another try. I think maybe I was doing it wrong. I'll keep everyone posted. I am still not going to change my mind that when one joins the organization and becomes totally sold out that they are joining a cult. And a religion. I just wish they would admit it, that's all.
Tm seems so protected I try finding any info about it and I cant find it, even this link is deleted. I do vipassana meditation many times but people keep saying tm is best. So far I came across only one articel where man claimed you sacrifice your energy to certain Hindu Gods. So if they grant you abilities for your energy, is there also a side of this meditation people do not like to admit it is there since they already payed so much and feel embarrassed to admit the other side of the coin
They say it's good for everyone. I don't think so.
It was fine for me when I was young but now I don't practice it any more. I just advise people to do their own research into TM & read books on it that are not put out by the TM people before you decide.
Read my description & click on the first link I have there & read more about what I have to say about it; plus I mention books on my pages.
Point A = where you stand today in terms of your Karma.
Point B = Enlightenment
There are several ways of going from Point A to Point B in the Sanatana Dharma (in the west it's known as Hinduism)! Different meditation techiniques, however some will take more commitment and devotion, some maybe very orthodox and some may be very simple and some for a certain type of character/age.
Well, to say tm is a cult would be like saying that brushing your teeth with an electric toothbrush is a cult. TM is nothing more than a mental technique that has been scientifically proven to have great physiological benefits. Of course it's not a religion either, if anything tm helps you in your religious path. I am a Torah (orthodox )Jew who has practiced tm for 2 years now and I highly reccomend it to everyone, whether christian, jew, muslim, agnostic, or otherwise.
I'm just asking the question. Some people think the organization is a cult. Read my paper that I wrote to find out more. It's just the organization that I am questioning. I just want people to think and read more than just the TM literature before they fork over the over $2,000, or whatever it is now, to learn the technique.
Just read my paper and the writing that I did that is linked on that page about my experiences. The link to my anthropology paper is in my description.
Angelstar..I did the TM thing from 77-85--including siddhis.I found the organization very elitist from within and very cultish. I think the idea of TM is wondeful..but.Malachi Martin warned about TM-and the danger of being unprotected in that 'middle plateau' when you transcend.He was a frontline exorcist..and knew about the dangers.Almost everyone I knew who was deeply into TM has quit.
Amen!!! I was in it from 74 until about 94. AND I lived in Fairfield, Iowa with my husband and daughter from 1981 until 1997.
What you say is definitely true. One other thing: My daughter got kicked out of their school because she couldn't keep high grades - doing that is one reason why they say they have such high grade point averages in the school there. Then the public school helped her more anyway. She has dyslexia.
Is there any place on the Internet where ex-TMer's can get together?
Ever heard that quote, "a pair of hands working accomplishes more than 1,000 clasped in prayer"? That's all I'm trying to say. Meditation doesn't improve the quality of people's lives; technology does. Now you can trick yourself into thinking that materialism is evil and that you're somehow more righteous than the rest of the species by eating nothing but bugs. But how is that going to solve the worlds problems? I don't need to kill people to know that its unethical. But that's not what you say.
We're doing both. Which is significantly more than you are doing by getting a job and suffering during and spreading that shit feeling you create for yourself.
Which I'd say is far more detrimental than meditating, offering only positive energy as a happy pauper than be shedding unhappiness on everyone while earning money and helping the corrupt engine churn without any real effort for better understanding to improve the world.
Is not a religion? - a higher level of consciousness is a mystical or spiritual belief and therefore a religious view - have a great time meditating and realizing what you need to peace, love, and non-violence is the ultimate religion, WAR IS OVER IF YOU WANT IT -
I don't know. Do we? My name is Linda my husband's name is Bert, our daughter's name is Erica. We were there from 82 until 97 and then me and my daughter were there from 99 until 2001 or so. Bert worked at MIU as maintenance man in the kitchen. Our daughter was in child care and attended MSAE from kindergarten through 4th grade. She's now 27 and living in L.A. Somewhere on here is a link to my web site if you want to check it out.
Nice video. I've been doing TM since 1972, TM teacher, Governor, Purusha...etc. etc. For many TM does functions as a cult, but certainly not for everybody. It just depends upon how much you buy into the narrative.
I have taken the TM course. Bottom line is you are given a mantra or sound which is the same as everyone else of your age though you are told that it is special. You simply repeat the sound to yourself and focus on it. Technique?? It's just using the same principles of self hypnosis. The simple thing is that it has been expensively packaged.
And as for "flying" - it is complete nonsense.
The levitation you see in photos is simply either fake or just a frozen Bounce on rubberized material.
Dear Linda, please know more about SWAMI BRAHMANANDA SARASWATHI whose photographs you have shown in the beginning and if only you could know how austere and pious he was you would not have dared to show his picture in your slide show.
WE CANNOT UNDERSTAND THE SAINTS LIKE SWAMI BRAHMANANDA SARASWATHI & NEEM KAROLI BABA MAHARAJ with our small minds and thinking and will end up crucifying them like what people like us did 2000 years back to JESUS CHRIST.
Sorry. Maybe. I am not going to remove this video. I wonder if Swami Brahmananda Saraswathi (we in the TM organization called him Guru Dev. His picture was above the alter when I got initiated in to TM!) would be happy or unhappy with what one of his disciples did (Maharishi Mahesh Yogi) and what Maharishi's followers are doing in the TM organization now.
The Yogic techniques appear very strange and they are beyond our understanding.The values and basic teachings of every religion and technique are the same and they encourage the humanness and compassion. Only the symbols and practices & rituals are different in the religions and we need not get ourselves entangled in them.
Please let us not argue about the genuineness of the techniques. If we truly introspect with an unbiased view each one would have had some benefit.The masters and technique should not be confused with the organization where ordinary people like us with our idiosyncrasies are in abundance.By the way HINDUISM is a way of life not a religion.Let us first correctly understand the essence of any religion.LET US BE BLOSSOM LIKE A LOTUS UNTAINTED BY THE WATERS .
TM is good, the TM movement, which i know well, is a.... perfect example of absolute power corrupts, is a cult, is money hungry and does not care to who or what they do or hurt, more or less, as the Goal justifies the means.
Thanks menkemeyer! Too true. The people who are in it don't think so though. I was "in" it and I know.... I was in it for many years. I even got my Sidhis! Now I'm out and I know better. I don't do TM any more either. It gives me a headache.
If you're doing TM and getting a headache, you should get your meditation checked; you're just probably straining in your practise. That's from my experiencxe of doing TM for 36 years.
That's wonderful! I'm so glad smoking an herb works for you! I hear oregano cures HIV and crabs in one toke. I've been freebasing Ivy to help the rash on my ass, improve my X-Ray vision, and cut back on my ravenous cravings for crack cocaine. It definitely depends on the person!
How can you tell someone you don't know what they can and cannot do? AA has existed over half a century because it does work for the millions of people who work it. I've seen it happen.
That's like me telling you don't think you can't kill 10 random people just by doing it. Maybe that'd be torturous for you/maybe not, but unless I'm psychic--and I'm not--I can't know what you're capable of.
And there are millions of people who'd tell you they could not quit drinking without the support of other people in AA. They'd tell you they needed to be with people who are going through the same things they are. And what's this about having A drink? 1 drink? An alcoholic isn't going to fall off the wagon with 1 drink; it's going to be as many drinks as it takes for him/her to get smashed drunk.
There may have been some invisibility techniques taught earlier on in the TM organization. I seem to remember reading something about this on the Internet somewhere. Didn't save it, though.
I'm happy you said this. I have anxiety, depression, physical and mental tension and other adverse effects. So it could have all been caused by TM. Oh, well. Life goes on.
And I'm with you 100%. As I've said, the coast really rubs me the wrong way, flying Yogi patrols and all :0) Absolutely you can learn mediation here on Youtube, (!) and from books and other people without spending any money. That's pretty much where I began: I like what I heard about TM; I was disappointed about the coast; I learned TM all by myself and have had great experiences :0).
An alcoholic/drug addict is extremely likely to fall off the wagon before reaching his/her first 6 months of sobriety. This isn't lost on people who've been sober for 45 years and sponsor other addicts/ it's expected. Telling someone who's been 6 months, 5 years, 10 years, or 20 years sober etc, who then falls off the wagon that they might as well have done nothing is about as logical as Ian Crossland on an 8th of mushrooms.
I'd get headaches sometimes. Sometimes I wouldn't go. If you want to read more, read my description and follow the link to read my anthropology paper. I'm fine now. I don't do TM much any more. Sometimes my mantra "comes to me" unexpectedly when I'm resting or something.
I was "on staff" for quite some time at other times. I spent over a year of my life working in Missouri at a TM place there and received $25 per month and earned credit to "get" my siddhis. For me it wasn't money spent, it was time. I was on staff at Stanford University cooking for meditators for several months. I was also on staff someplace near Lake Tahoe for about a month or more. I "flew" with the group in Fairfield, Iowa for 15 years.
I learned TM in 1974 and at the time it was $125 to get my mantra. I lived at Livingston Manor, NY for about 10 months in 1976/77 and made $25 dollars a month with room and board. I worked and did my "program" and shared a room with other ladies. I was supposed to get advanced techniques from working there, then I got let go and never saw a cent of that money and/or credit.
I know of no video that shows someone actually levitating. I was in the TM movement for over 20 years and I never saw anyone levitating. I only saw people hopping around. I messed up my knees from doing the "levitation" technique.
The coast to be Taught TM does bother me, but the benefits are priceless. You can call the TM experience Purple Buffalo expresses Meditation for all I care; it's still an amazing experience!
I'm really not sure why you're worked up about TM; you probably have your reasons or you wouldn't care--but, there are babies addicted to crack...and people without health care...well, anyway--I was reading about a woman who sued Mr. Yogi because she started to become meshed in a fantasy world as she advanced with TM. Well, there has to be a balance to everything...ya know?
Well, I couldn't agree with you more about the friggen $2,500.00 bucks...That's why I've researched and studied for over a year on the specifics of TM, every detail I could find. So, according to most TMers, I'm not really doing TM because I didn't learn from a TM Teacher, which makes me laugh because I've never experienced just amazing tranquility, euphoria, and energy...
I'm really not sure why you're worked up about TM; you probably have your reasons or you wouldn't care--but, there are babies addicted to crack...and people without health care...well, anyway--I was reading about a woman who sued Mr. Yogi because she started to become meshed in a fantasy world as she advanced with TM. Well, there has to be a balance to everything...ya know?
As many lawsuits are pending against TM there must be thousands more pending against Alcoholics Anonymous, and I'm not going to tell someone 50 years sober they've wasted their time.
If feeling like pure bliss, like I'm swimming in an endless pool of light; with sensations of pure euphoria washing through me, feeling more amazing than any drug could ever make me feel, is a cult, then count me IN!
It is interesting that one has decided to frame the question "A cult? A religion".
One is likely unconsciously already adhering to various cults. The society itself consists of various cults... political cults, religious cults, academic cults, scientific cults, all are cults. But ordinarily in language, the word cult has negative connotations althouth it is merely a question of which cults are considered socially acceptable and commonplace.
Just physically,excluding any ideas of Mysticism, on a physical level meditation and yoga may be viewed as a science of brain development whereby it's various processes are designed to enhance, activate, and areas of the brain which correspond to different functions, whether it be intellect, emotion, intuition, etc.
There is an entire science for the evolution of human consciousness in such a way that one may experience phenomena beyond the limitations of the sense perceptions. I use the word science very specfically, for science adheres to a process of formulating the question, hypothesis, observation, experimentation, conclusion, and with an outcome that is to be repeatable.
This is a shining example of neurotic ignorance which is largely due to fear of the unknown of things that stem from other cultures other than the Western culture and it's deeply rooted influence from monotheism. Yoga and meditation are technologies which are secular through an understanding of the more subtle aspects of the human being. To say that any branch of yoga or meditation is a cult or religion is exactly like saying that an aeroplane is a cult or religion.
A cult? A religion? What are you on dope? Oh, you must be a Christian then... They have no tolerance for anything that isn't all Jesus Crusty. If the Muslims don't bring down America, the Christians will. They are all murderers! At least you wont see any of these people killing in the name of their imaginary friend. Cult, religion, or not. The bottom line is that they are peaceful and it's a shame when people feel obligated to attack one of the few groups that ARE peaceful on this planet.
I'm sorry for SEVEN comments, I read 110 comments and with all the ideas that I got from them I wrote what I THINK... I also advise people who are in search for a better life, to try smthing else if they are not satisfied with TM, because all the will is for good. However my opinion is, naming a series of APPLICATION as a religion would not be correct
As I have said before, use your own intuition and intelligence. Read the literature and not just the stuff put out by the TM organization and not necessarily by the person who left the SEVEN comments below.
However I agree that as David Lynch always say that "at the firs time it was like being in an elevator and cutting the rope" doesn't same for everyone. As the experience can change p to p the time to feel that also can change.
Reasons for your and your daughter's TM failures are very common but they area very easy to understand. Firstly your daughter does smth wrong while she was meditating, as I did before. She needs to overcome forcing the mantra maybe. And for your example;you are familiarizing your mind with transcendental consciousness therefore you may not feel difference between waking and transcending but it doesn't mean that your exp. doesn't work.
P3: Without the knowladge one should make no comments. I'm not sure that all the people making comments have the full knowladge about what is going on.
P2: And the instructor would explain many things with the atoms, or some abbreviations such as m = d x V and so on. If the Hindu man would not fully understand what's been said than he might get confused and he would name these scientifical symbols as religion. There are various ways to tell the same things, and Vedic Science has the ability to tell what is observed in a different way than the western people do.
P1: Most of the people always say that this is not a science but a religion, and these people point out the initiation and mantras... What if we had the opposite concepts? Think of a Hindu who knows nothing about the western life and to teach him "science" what would have been done? One would give him examples of Newton finding the gravitational force while an apple dropt onto his head.
My parents do TM-Sidhi program for maybe 30 years and I grow up in such an environment. I can say that they are not staying still in the air but they are hoping. But the important thing is the force that they are generating is smt different than the mussles of their legs. Also that hoping would be meaningless if the reason they are doing it would be just jumping in the high.
Hoping is the result of their inner happiness and integration between body and mind become max. And that result is superior than the gravitational force.
It appears to be deep hypnosis with religious undertones. I'm trying to look into TM more because I am trying to go to the school. I only want to go to the school to learn about sustainable living and I certainly don't want to be forced into religious practices.
I am a Catholic convert, and am in sympathy with your remarks. However, Jesus did say: "You will be like gods". And Augustine did say: "Love, and do what you will." I think one could practice a form of TM using "Jesus" as a mantra. The basic idea is similar to hesychasm (use of the Jesus prayer), or Centering Prayer...
I exist. My Lord exist. My search for His glimmer, my search for His grandeur is never ending. I am moving unto Him, moving along in a never ending path. The search for the Great by the little is called mysticism. The fundamental point of spirituality depends on this mysticism, and when this mysticism, this outward existence, coincides with the inner spirit of mysticism - the goal is reached. Unit becomes Cosmic - and for that - and for that attainment of this - we have come to the world.
I used to practice TM when it only cost $35. It's not a organized religion yet it is based on many Hindu practices. God is referred to all the time but they claim it's a science. It always bothered me that they weren't truthful about the inherent religious nature of the practice. Besides, which scientific community frowns upon pre-marital sex? Meditation is a great practice but you don't need to spend a fortune nor deny it's religious traditions.
Amen! Brothers and Sisters! :-) THE Mantras are names of Gods and Goddesses! If only they had told us that in the beginning I would have been fine with it but all the deceipt... that's what got to me.
Part 2: Meditate and be always happy & believe what is fitting to you! Frank Lotz, recertified Teacher of Maharishis Transcendental Meditation
Be blessed my dear, all Beings even most do not know pray to the One & Only (may He/She be called Jehova, God, Krishna, Buddha, Allah etc.) having only different Names and shapes!
Part 1: But you make people believe TM is a religion, it is not! I am TM- meditating Christian, many friends of mine who meditate a Jewish, you are right it is a free world and so is the Transcendental Meditation Movement, we respect all different religious approaches to experience GOD, might it be the Buddhistic way, the Hinduistic, the Jewish, the Moslem or the Christian, anyways it is the same GOD and TM give the direct experience my dear!
I made this video some time ago, and my feelings are different now. Should I remove the video? I think not. Remember, it's just a video. For entertainment.
Now I feel pity on you, after I know now why you did it! You soled your spiritual heritage for what? For getting accepted in your University, I feel really sorry for you. Remember, everyone receives the fruits of his actions, weather you believe or not, it is a cosmic law!
Nice pic. but the last 3 Min. you show pic. from the Indian Vedic Culture & Vedic Dewatas, pic. from the Hare Krishna Movement, a total different thing from TM (Transcendental Meditation). That are 2 different shoes my dear, even I do like the Hare Krishna people for their Vedic approach. But you have mingeled them into One & here you are totally wrong! In TM everyone beliefes what he or she likes, being a Christian a Jewish a Hindu or Bhuddist, does`nt matter. Cheeers Frank
Yes, I realize I stole the last pictures from a different source. When I first started TM we were offered many images of Krishna, Shiva, Ganesh and others in the TM bookstore. The images of the puja implements I realize are not TM also, but I needed something for my video. It's only a video after all. Thank you for your comment. :-) At the time I did this I was upset that the TM people told us TM was not a religion.
Yes, the practice is not a religion but many things are religious in nature, like the puja when one is initiated in to the TM practice. :-) I am "over it" now but the video remains. I made the video over a year ago. If you want to read my anthropology paper or my story let me know and I will send the links.
I think you are all crazy. I decided this video sucked when I noticed the background in the introduction was exactly the same as the stationary my grandmother uses to write me notes on.
An easy way to prevent conflict or argument in the future if your a christian... just keep your mouth shut and go to sunday school. That would prevent a lot of wars, protests, etc.
Yeah, so? I needed a background for my introductions. It's pretty. And... I'm not a Christian. This was for a project I did in my college anthropology class.
If God is really omnipresent, then if you analyze creation deeply enough, you will find God as the essence of it. If that is not the case, then you are saying that God is not really omnipresent - that he is excluded from a pretty large territory - i.e., creation. As I understand Hinduism (and I'm not a Hindu nor an expert) Nature is only God in the sense that everything is God, because God is omnipresent.
Doesn't Christianity believe that God is omnipresent? If that it so, tell me where He does NOT exist. Would He not permeate everything, including you?
How can something that I practice by MYSELF, alone in MY ROOM, for my own personal benefit, be a cult? Nor is TM a religion. Religion is faith-based. TM is a technique, and there's nothing to believe. You don't even have to believe in it for it to work for you. Nice music though.
If God is omnipresent, then God and Nature are one. In Hinduism, Nature is not God. God is just recognized as omnipresent, as He is in deeper forms of Christianity. So oneness with God, which both Christianity and Hinduism espouse, means seeing the oneness of all things - the Divine Essence that pervades the individual as well as the natural world, mosquitos included.
Thank you for your comment. I like what you said. I like the idea of "seeing the oneness of all things." I'd certainly like to feel that. Are you a TMer?
I learned TM in 1968, became a teacher of it in 1970, and haven't missed a meditation since learning. But I'm not involved in the TM movement anymore and strictly speaking, am not doing TM anymore because I use a different mantra now that I got from Amma (Amritanandamayi - amma dot org). But I use it TM-style and credit MMY and TM with having saved and enriched my life immensely.
Thanks for responding. I started TM in 1975. I'm starting to think it wasn't all that bad. But I'm going to leave this video up because it gets comments! :-) I would LOVE to see Amma. We lost out on our chance back in the 80's when she used to go to Chicago. She's going to be in Albuquerque some time soon, but that's a 3 plus hour drive for us! Perhaps one day.
satan? huh? you are a liar. sin? you're a moron. shut up before you hurt someone seriously. YOU are the closest thing there is to "satan" around here. be gone! be gone, mesquito!
Like Christianity isn't already so diluted that your practically not following Jesus anymore even if you ARE a christian. That statement about choosing between Jesus and Maharishi must be out of context, because last time I checked Maharishi promotes any religion that puts positive attention on God.
you're fullashit. EVERYTHING is addictive, especially air. so stop throwing the nfo off kilter for your own devices, liar. i've been doing tm since 1972 and i am not weak, assole.
who gives a shit what anybody calls wharever? i've been meditating since 1973 cuz it feels good. i was in cosmic consciousness from summer 1972 til 8 months later. religion is crap. intentionally believing in anything is stupid and a waste of a good mind. get self-felt direct experience. rick stanley's tune erk me. be honest. i know what i'm talking about, btw.
I guess TM doesn't work to well for you, cuz it didn't let you tap into the fact that "let it be" was written By Paul McCartney NOT John Lennon ... get it straight puppethead...
Friends I am a former practicioner of TM but quit and I am now Christian and now my life is INFINITELY BETTER AND MORE PEACEFUL, TM is bad news please click my channel or username for more info! Blessings!
johlysid, anyone who has ever learned TM knows you can be whatever religion you want while doing TM, you don't have to quit TM to be a Christian. I do not understand why you are fearful. Fear stems from not knowing or understanding.
Friend, what I was trying to say is that The Heavenly Father doesn't want you to do TM and that it's a negative. Please click on my link and read the page or on the TM video I posted (read the description too)...also anyone please msg me if you want to know my story and how you can invite God into your life! Blessings.
Everyone let me just say this. Please pray to the Heavenly Father and ask him about TM and revealing his true self to you, whatever you say please search your heart and make it genuine. Blessings!
you are a free man to believe whatever you want to, but what you are telling here is the result of 2000 years of brain-washing, you better read the gnosis, Adam and Eve were driven away from paradise because of god´s envy! God can only get illumination if he has got a body!!! (like Jesus or Buddha)even the highest gods are ruled by the law of karma. I have studied the ancient scriptures in original sanskrit, the christian lies about sin, hell and so on never have any impact on me
You imply ppl shouldn't criticise TM if it fails them. This is a democracy and we can criticise anything on any basis we choose. TM makes utterly ridiculous claims that are totally unsubstantiated and so they must be criticised for this, otherwise ppl would be fooled into thinking there is something to these claims and waste their time and money on a fraud.
I don't believe in TM anymore, but I wish ppl would get over this 'cult' word. It just means a group united by a belief or idea and is not in itself an indication the group must be bad. The word cult has got negative press 'cos of Jones, Koresh, Applewhite etc but it is still the basis of 'culture.'
Actually, their brand of Hinduism is a far cry from what's practiced nowadays in India. Most Indians don't really care for his schtick, its just Westerners that get sucked into it. I wouldn't call it a Hindu trap. I'd just call it a trap.
I was in TM, but left when they tried to convince me they could teach me to levitate for £2000, but wouldn't offer any proof. The ridiculous claims they make have no basis in science or fact. Religion or cult, either way these navel-gazing frauds cannot deliver.
I PAID The money to learn to levitate!! At the time I learned I thought it was "all that" and I basically spent a year's worth of earnings to learn. I never did levitate. Sometimes I'd get a headache.
Any religion that empowers its people with love and unity of mind and spirit sounds pretty nice. Nobody has waged war in the name of a Transcendental Ideology.
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lakesrabner 1 month ago
I was a victim for 13 years. I served on a TM Board of Advisors. Trust me-it’s a mind control money cult; ruined my health, finances and relationships. See the documentary DAVID WANTS TO FLY before you get “initiated”. The “science” they spew is flawed and biased. Countless scientific studies have shown that TM is no more effective than repeating the word “one”. Where is the “world peace” they promised 30 years ago? Save your money and practice mindfulness meditation or self-inquiry. Both FREE!
m0nkeypill 2 months ago
@m0nkeypill
Thank you so much for your comment on my video. :-)
angelstar22 2 months ago
transcendental meditation is watered down hinduism without giving credit to all the sages who helped develop these techniques. to me it represents a bad form of new age thinking. read the bhagavad gita, and you'll get much more out of it. or maybe even the four gospels of jesus, or the tao te ching by lao tzu, or the diamond sutra and the teachings of siddhartha gautama, or even the socratic dialogues by plato. TM only works on people who know little history and are easily fooled by false gurus.
amn3h23h2 7 months ago
@amn3h23h2,
Thank you for your comment. Yes, people should head your words.
angelstar22 7 months ago
Thx 4the efforts u put in creatg this video & writg ur paper. I'm glad that @this point in ur life u dont need 2meditate. I'm wonderg however whether meditation by itself has any benefits & if it has, whether it's possible 2meditate without gettg involved in any organized groups? When people r @ a vulnerable stage in their life they gravitate towards copg mechanisms. Some get into abusg substance, some start meditatg, some become depressed. Considerg ur experience what do u recommend? Thx.
RUinEarnest 11 months ago
@RUinEarnest - Thank you so much for your nice comment. You can certainly start practicing TM without getting involved. You can also find some techniques on the Internet that work just as well. I don't exactly know what would be good for you but definitely stay away from drugs. :-) Hope you find something.
angelstar22 11 months ago
@RUinEarnest - If you do consider getting involved with a group just watch out for the ones that say they are the best or who say to not try anything else while you are with them. Maybe just watch out for them all and do some breathing exercises. or something. I take not responsibility for what I suggest though. :-)
angelstar22 11 months ago
@RUinEarnest
You really want to know what I'm trying right now? I'm on a medication for bipolar disorder. There! I said it. Just started a new one. We shall see how that goes. I'm only taking 1/4 of a pill and thinking of cutting back to 1/8 of a pill. Strange stuff, man.....
angelstar22 11 months ago
@angelstar22
The Earth is bi-polar.
7711082 10 months ago
Nice video! Thanks for sharing. Amazon finally selling Beatles songs as MP3's...:-)
1umbnonearth 1 year ago
@1umbnonearth
Cool.....
angelstar22 1 year ago
@1umbnonearth not...:-(
1umbnonearth 1 year ago
father malachi martin warned against TM.he says it leaves people open to the middle plateau--where demons etc reside.leaves people vulnerable to harrassment by evil entities.
atombomb31458 1 year ago
@atombomb31458
I think I have met some of them...
7711082 10 months ago
@7711082
have u met the harrassed people or the harrassing entities???
atombomb31458 10 months ago
@atombomb31458
The entities themselves. Maharishi spoke little of this but at finer levels of thought there exists a world of subtle beings, some of whom resent your intrusion.
Spiritual growth comes through spiritual battle.
7711082 10 months ago
@7711082Yes I agree it is a spiritual battle.Catholic saints were attacked by demons because they were a threat to evil. So that ties in somewhat with what you say about intrusion.-What Father Martin spoke about,however, was more about carelessly leaving oneself open to this 'middle plateau' without protection.That middle plateau being attained in the transcendental state. Being an exorcist most of his life he had some insight into these matters.
atombomb31458 10 months ago
@TheEternalLight1 - That's fine.
I just want people to think for themselves and not just be sheep.
angelstar22 1 year ago
@TheEternalLight1
If you learned for free you did not learn TM.
You learned something else.
angelstar22 1 year ago
@TheEternalLight1 Thanks for making it clear that giving a fruit to a picture doesn't mean anything, TM is supposed to be scientific, and to practiced it for its effectiveness i don't need to believe that who introduced TM did not die, they just left their bodies! one more thing, those people who did not change faith, I heard a priest saying thanks to Vedic gods for this! and I met this jewish lady who believed that Maharishi is in Heaven! so my friend what about this faith?
joethedjboy 1 year ago
@joethedjboy
Thanks for your comment
angelstar22 1 year ago
If TM is not religion, why would i give fruit to a picture during the initiation, why would my teacher say this
" Guru in the glory of Brahma. Guru in the glory of Vishnu. Guru in the glory of the great Lord Shiva. Guru in the glory of the personified transcendented fullness of Brahman, to Him, to Shri Guru Dev adorned with glory, I bow down."
joethedjboy 1 year ago
I just started practicing the TM technique again about four days ago. I'm going to give it another try. I think maybe I was doing it wrong. I'll keep everyone posted. I am still not going to change my mind that when one joins the organization and becomes totally sold out that they are joining a cult. And a religion. I just wish they would admit it, that's all.
angelstar22 1 year ago
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PanditGRecords 2 years ago
Tm seems so protected I try finding any info about it and I cant find it, even this link is deleted. I do vipassana meditation many times but people keep saying tm is best. So far I came across only one articel where man claimed you sacrifice your energy to certain Hindu Gods. So if they grant you abilities for your energy, is there also a side of this meditation people do not like to admit it is there since they already payed so much and feel embarrassed to admit the other side of the coin
silvergwarf 2 years ago
@silvergwarf
I do admit that TM is fine for some people.
They say it's good for everyone. I don't think so.
It was fine for me when I was young but now I don't practice it any more. I just advise people to do their own research into TM & read books on it that are not put out by the TM people before you decide.
Read my description & click on the first link I have there & read more about what I have to say about it; plus I mention books on my pages.
Hope you succeed in making the right decision.
angelstar22 2 years ago
@silvergwarf
I put more links in my description.
The TM people are the ones who give my video "1s"
And they are the ones who keep saying that keep tagging my video. Do you really want to deal with a group that does things like that?
Also watch the video I have listed by a young man in Europe.
angelstar22 2 years ago
@silvergwarf
PS. That video I mentioned has been removed.
Probably due to the TM people tagging it.
Or maybe I'm wrong.
But, I doubt it.
angelstar22 2 years ago
Point A = where you stand today in terms of your Karma.
Point B = Enlightenment
There are several ways of going from Point A to Point B in the Sanatana Dharma (in the west it's known as Hinduism)! Different meditation techiniques, however some will take more commitment and devotion, some maybe very orthodox and some may be very simple and some for a certain type of character/age.
PanditGRecords 2 years ago
TM People, please stop being immature and stop giving my video a "1" just because you are hypnotized.
angelstar22 2 years ago
I don't get headaches any more since I quit TM.
Maybe it's okay for those who really believe in it.
As in: Those who are hypnotized and haven't broken free yet.
I, for one, am free!
angelstar22 2 years ago
why is this video flagged???
airegin2345 2 years ago 6
I'm also wondering why. I wonder if the TM people are getting in here and flagging it. It would be just like them.
amethystcrystal7 2 years ago 6
Well, to say tm is a cult would be like saying that brushing your teeth with an electric toothbrush is a cult. TM is nothing more than a mental technique that has been scientifically proven to have great physiological benefits. Of course it's not a religion either, if anything tm helps you in your religious path. I am a Torah (orthodox )Jew who has practiced tm for 2 years now and I highly reccomend it to everyone, whether christian, jew, muslim, agnostic, or otherwise.
JaredEricFusia 2 years ago 3
I'm just asking the question. Some people think the organization is a cult. Read my paper that I wrote to find out more. It's just the organization that I am questioning. I just want people to think and read more than just the TM literature before they fork over the over $2,000, or whatever it is now, to learn the technique.
I was a TMer for over 20 years!!!
angelstar22 2 years ago
I understand, and it's good that you should ask. i have to ask you, why did you quit? did you discover a more fufilling technique? did you just stop?
JaredEricFusia 2 years ago
Just read my paper and the writing that I did that is linked on that page about my experiences. The link to my anthropology paper is in my description.
angelstar22 2 years ago
Angelstar..I did the TM thing from 77-85--including siddhis.I found the organization very elitist from within and very cultish. I think the idea of TM is wondeful..but.Malachi Martin warned about TM-and the danger of being unprotected in that 'middle plateau' when you transcend.He was a frontline exorcist..and knew about the dangers.Almost everyone I knew who was deeply into TM has quit.
atombomb31458 2 years ago
Amen!!! I was in it from 74 until about 94. AND I lived in Fairfield, Iowa with my husband and daughter from 1981 until 1997.
What you say is definitely true. One other thing: My daughter got kicked out of their school because she couldn't keep high grades - doing that is one reason why they say they have such high grade point averages in the school there. Then the public school helped her more anyway. She has dyslexia.
Is there any place on the Internet where ex-TMer's can get together?
angelstar22 2 years ago
Ever heard that quote, "a pair of hands working accomplishes more than 1,000 clasped in prayer"? That's all I'm trying to say. Meditation doesn't improve the quality of people's lives; technology does. Now you can trick yourself into thinking that materialism is evil and that you're somehow more righteous than the rest of the species by eating nothing but bugs. But how is that going to solve the worlds problems? I don't need to kill people to know that its unethical. But that's not what you say.
pfisterbaby 3 years ago
The end of war is through education, not meditation... get a job... or at least open a science book...
pfisterbaby 3 years ago
I've done both.
angelstar22 3 years ago
We're doing both. Which is significantly more than you are doing by getting a job and suffering during and spreading that shit feeling you create for yourself.
Which I'd say is far more detrimental than meditating, offering only positive energy as a happy pauper than be shedding unhappiness on everyone while earning money and helping the corrupt engine churn without any real effort for better understanding to improve the world.
sspoonbenderr 3 years ago
Is not a religion? - a higher level of consciousness is a mystical or spiritual belief and therefore a religious view - have a great time meditating and realizing what you need to peace, love, and non-violence is the ultimate religion, WAR IS OVER IF YOU WANT IT -
jamieanderson2 3 years ago
Hey, I lived in Fairfield too from 74 to 78 and then 83 to 90. Do we know one another?
Lehmann108 3 years ago
I don't know. Do we? My name is Linda my husband's name is Bert, our daughter's name is Erica. We were there from 82 until 97 and then me and my daughter were there from 99 until 2001 or so. Bert worked at MIU as maintenance man in the kitchen. Our daughter was in child care and attended MSAE from kindergarten through 4th grade. She's now 27 and living in L.A. Somewhere on here is a link to my web site if you want to check it out.
angelstar22 3 years ago
Nice video. I've been doing TM since 1972, TM teacher, Governor, Purusha...etc. etc. For many TM does functions as a cult, but certainly not for everybody. It just depends upon how much you buy into the narrative.
Lehmann108 3 years ago 2
Shouldn't be. I doubt the culprit will speak up. Maybe I should contact YouTube again and get this un-flagged.
angelstar22 3 years ago
That's what I'd like to know. I contacted YouTube some time ago to have it un-flagged but they never did anything.
angelstar22 3 years ago
I have taken the TM course. Bottom line is you are given a mantra or sound which is the same as everyone else of your age though you are told that it is special. You simply repeat the sound to yourself and focus on it. Technique?? It's just using the same principles of self hypnosis. The simple thing is that it has been expensively packaged.
And as for "flying" - it is complete nonsense.
The levitation you see in photos is simply either fake or just a frozen Bounce on rubberized material.
cresume 3 years ago
Yes it is. It's a Cult! I say. A Cult! Cult cult cult cult... ah Nice temple though
borys66 3 years ago
Who in the world tagged this?
angelstar22 3 years ago
Dear Linda, please know more about SWAMI BRAHMANANDA SARASWATHI whose photographs you have shown in the beginning and if only you could know how austere and pious he was you would not have dared to show his picture in your slide show.
WE CANNOT UNDERSTAND THE SAINTS LIKE SWAMI BRAHMANANDA SARASWATHI & NEEM KAROLI BABA MAHARAJ with our small minds and thinking and will end up crucifying them like what people like us did 2000 years back to JESUS CHRIST.
gocool1982 3 years ago
Sorry. Maybe. I am not going to remove this video. I wonder if Swami Brahmananda Saraswathi (we in the TM organization called him Guru Dev. His picture was above the alter when I got initiated in to TM!) would be happy or unhappy with what one of his disciples did (Maharishi Mahesh Yogi) and what Maharishi's followers are doing in the TM organization now.
angelstar22 3 years ago
The Yogic techniques appear very strange and they are beyond our understanding.The values and basic teachings of every religion and technique are the same and they encourage the humanness and compassion. Only the symbols and practices & rituals are different in the religions and we need not get ourselves entangled in them.
gocool1982 3 years ago
Please let us not argue about the genuineness of the techniques. If we truly introspect with an unbiased view each one would have had some benefit.The masters and technique should not be confused with the organization where ordinary people like us with our idiosyncrasies are in abundance.By the way HINDUISM is a way of life not a religion.Let us first correctly understand the essence of any religion.LET US BE BLOSSOM LIKE A LOTUS UNTAINTED BY THE WATERS .
gocool1982 3 years ago
TM is good, the TM movement, which i know well, is a.... perfect example of absolute power corrupts, is a cult, is money hungry and does not care to who or what they do or hurt, more or less, as the Goal justifies the means.
menkemeyer 3 years ago
Thanks menkemeyer! Too true. The people who are in it don't think so though. I was "in" it and I know.... I was in it for many years. I even got my Sidhis! Now I'm out and I know better. I don't do TM any more either. It gives me a headache.
angelstar22 3 years ago
Who in the world flagged this video? Strange. It shouldn't be flagged.
amethystcrystal7 3 years ago
I just heard that Maharishi passed away last week or so ago. He himself was fine the TM organization is the only thing I have a problem with.
angelstar22 4 years ago
If you're doing TM and getting a headache, you should get your meditation checked; you're just probably straining in your practise. That's from my experiencxe of doing TM for 36 years.
jrcsamad 4 years ago
Yeah, right. Getting checked gives me a headache. THINKING about getting checked gives me a headache!
angelstar22 4 years ago
That's wonderful! I'm so glad smoking an herb works for you! I hear oregano cures HIV and crabs in one toke. I've been freebasing Ivy to help the rash on my ass, improve my X-Ray vision, and cut back on my ravenous cravings for crack cocaine. It definitely depends on the person!
MattieCooper 4 years ago
Which articles are you talking about? If there are some I have not found, I'd like to know how to get to those you mention.
angelstar22 4 years ago
How can you tell someone you don't know what they can and cannot do? AA has existed over half a century because it does work for the millions of people who work it. I've seen it happen.
That's like me telling you don't think you can't kill 10 random people just by doing it. Maybe that'd be torturous for you/maybe not, but unless I'm psychic--and I'm not--I can't know what you're capable of.
MattieCooper 4 years ago
And there are millions of people who'd tell you they could not quit drinking without the support of other people in AA. They'd tell you they needed to be with people who are going through the same things they are. And what's this about having A drink? 1 drink? An alcoholic isn't going to fall off the wagon with 1 drink; it's going to be as many drinks as it takes for him/her to get smashed drunk.
MattieCooper 4 years ago
There may have been some invisibility techniques taught earlier on in the TM organization. I seem to remember reading something about this on the Internet somewhere. Didn't save it, though.
angelstar22 4 years ago
I'm happy you said this. I have anxiety, depression, physical and mental tension and other adverse effects. So it could have all been caused by TM. Oh, well. Life goes on.
angelstar22 4 years ago
Too true!
angelstar22 4 years ago
I also would like to know who flagged it as inappropriate. And I'd like to know how to get the flag removed. Anyone know?
angelstar22 4 years ago
No.... Not me.
angelstar22 4 years ago
And I'm with you 100%. As I've said, the coast really rubs me the wrong way, flying Yogi patrols and all :0) Absolutely you can learn mediation here on Youtube, (!) and from books and other people without spending any money. That's pretty much where I began: I like what I heard about TM; I was disappointed about the coast; I learned TM all by myself and have had great experiences :0).
MattieCooper 4 years ago
An alcoholic/drug addict is extremely likely to fall off the wagon before reaching his/her first 6 months of sobriety. This isn't lost on people who've been sober for 45 years and sponsor other addicts/ it's expected. Telling someone who's been 6 months, 5 years, 10 years, or 20 years sober etc, who then falls off the wagon that they might as well have done nothing is about as logical as Ian Crossland on an 8th of mushrooms.
MattieCooper 4 years ago
I'd get headaches sometimes. Sometimes I wouldn't go. If you want to read more, read my description and follow the link to read my anthropology paper. I'm fine now. I don't do TM much any more. Sometimes my mantra "comes to me" unexpectedly when I'm resting or something.
angelstar22 4 years ago
I was "on staff" for quite some time at other times. I spent over a year of my life working in Missouri at a TM place there and received $25 per month and earned credit to "get" my siddhis. For me it wasn't money spent, it was time. I was on staff at Stanford University cooking for meditators for several months. I was also on staff someplace near Lake Tahoe for about a month or more. I "flew" with the group in Fairfield, Iowa for 15 years.
angelstar22 4 years ago
I learned TM in 1974 and at the time it was $125 to get my mantra. I lived at Livingston Manor, NY for about 10 months in 1976/77 and made $25 dollars a month with room and board. I worked and did my "program" and shared a room with other ladies. I was supposed to get advanced techniques from working there, then I got let go and never saw a cent of that money and/or credit.
angelstar22 4 years ago
I know of no video that shows someone actually levitating. I was in the TM movement for over 20 years and I never saw anyone levitating. I only saw people hopping around. I messed up my knees from doing the "levitation" technique.
angelstar22 4 years ago
The coast to be Taught TM does bother me, but the benefits are priceless. You can call the TM experience Purple Buffalo expresses Meditation for all I care; it's still an amazing experience!
MattieCooper 4 years ago
I know 24 people who started practicing TM in the 70's and they're still practicing today and loving it :0)
MattieCooper 4 years ago
Yeah, like me....
angelstar22 4 years ago
TM creates a real internal peace and wholeness that will last a lifetime :0)
MattieCooper 4 years ago
I'm really not sure why you're worked up about TM; you probably have your reasons or you wouldn't care--but, there are babies addicted to crack...and people without health care...well, anyway--I was reading about a woman who sued Mr. Yogi because she started to become meshed in a fantasy world as she advanced with TM. Well, there has to be a balance to everything...ya know?
MattieCooper 4 years ago
Well, I couldn't agree with you more about the friggen $2,500.00 bucks...That's why I've researched and studied for over a year on the specifics of TM, every detail I could find. So, according to most TMers, I'm not really doing TM because I didn't learn from a TM Teacher, which makes me laugh because I've never experienced just amazing tranquility, euphoria, and energy...
MattieCooper 4 years ago
I'm really not sure why you're worked up about TM; you probably have your reasons or you wouldn't care--but, there are babies addicted to crack...and people without health care...well, anyway--I was reading about a woman who sued Mr. Yogi because she started to become meshed in a fantasy world as she advanced with TM. Well, there has to be a balance to everything...ya know?
MattieCooper 4 years ago
As many lawsuits are pending against TM there must be thousands more pending against Alcoholics Anonymous, and I'm not going to tell someone 50 years sober they've wasted their time.
MattieCooper 4 years ago
If feeling like pure bliss, like I'm swimming in an endless pool of light; with sensations of pure euphoria washing through me, feeling more amazing than any drug could ever make me feel, is a cult, then count me IN!
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MattieCooper 4 years ago
It is interesting that one has decided to frame the question "A cult? A religion".
One is likely unconsciously already adhering to various cults. The society itself consists of various cults... political cults, religious cults, academic cults, scientific cults, all are cults. But ordinarily in language, the word cult has negative connotations althouth it is merely a question of which cults are considered socially acceptable and commonplace.
Amirmourad 4 years ago
Just physically,excluding any ideas of Mysticism, on a physical level meditation and yoga may be viewed as a science of brain development whereby it's various processes are designed to enhance, activate, and areas of the brain which correspond to different functions, whether it be intellect, emotion, intuition, etc.
Amirmourad 4 years ago
There is an entire science for the evolution of human consciousness in such a way that one may experience phenomena beyond the limitations of the sense perceptions. I use the word science very specfically, for science adheres to a process of formulating the question, hypothesis, observation, experimentation, conclusion, and with an outcome that is to be repeatable.
Amirmourad 4 years ago
Ladies and gentleman,
This is a shining example of neurotic ignorance which is largely due to fear of the unknown of things that stem from other cultures other than the Western culture and it's deeply rooted influence from monotheism. Yoga and meditation are technologies which are secular through an understanding of the more subtle aspects of the human being. To say that any branch of yoga or meditation is a cult or religion is exactly like saying that an aeroplane is a cult or religion.
Amirmourad 4 years ago
I do know what I'm talking about. Read.... and then know....
angelstar22 4 years ago
A cult? A religion? What are you on dope? Oh, you must be a Christian then... They have no tolerance for anything that isn't all Jesus Crusty. If the Muslims don't bring down America, the Christians will. They are all murderers! At least you wont see any of these people killing in the name of their imaginary friend. Cult, religion, or not. The bottom line is that they are peaceful and it's a shame when people feel obligated to attack one of the few groups that ARE peaceful on this planet.
r3vk3nny 4 years ago
Yeah, and the TM people have no tolerance for anything that isn't all TM-y.
angelstar22 4 years ago
ahhh looking into another religon cause i think this is a cult man
Haydoe900 4 years ago
I'm sorry for SEVEN comments, I read 110 comments and with all the ideas that I got from them I wrote what I THINK... I also advise people who are in search for a better life, to try smthing else if they are not satisfied with TM, because all the will is for good. However my opinion is, naming a series of APPLICATION as a religion would not be correct
BarisTurkkan 4 years ago
Read all the books, both negative and positive and decide for yourself. That's all I'm asking - THINK!
angelstar22 4 years ago
As I have said before, use your own intuition and intelligence. Read the literature and not just the stuff put out by the TM organization and not necessarily by the person who left the SEVEN comments below.
angelstar22 4 years ago
However I agree that as David Lynch always say that "at the firs time it was like being in an elevator and cutting the rope" doesn't same for everyone. As the experience can change p to p the time to feel that also can change.
BarisTurkkan 4 years ago
Reasons for your and your daughter's TM failures are very common but they area very easy to understand. Firstly your daughter does smth wrong while she was meditating, as I did before. She needs to overcome forcing the mantra maybe. And for your example;you are familiarizing your mind with transcendental consciousness therefore you may not feel difference between waking and transcending but it doesn't mean that your exp. doesn't work.
BarisTurkkan 4 years ago
P3: Without the knowladge one should make no comments. I'm not sure that all the people making comments have the full knowladge about what is going on.
BarisTurkkan 4 years ago
P2: And the instructor would explain many things with the atoms, or some abbreviations such as m = d x V and so on. If the Hindu man would not fully understand what's been said than he might get confused and he would name these scientifical symbols as religion. There are various ways to tell the same things, and Vedic Science has the ability to tell what is observed in a different way than the western people do.
BarisTurkkan 4 years ago
P1: Most of the people always say that this is not a science but a religion, and these people point out the initiation and mantras... What if we had the opposite concepts? Think of a Hindu who knows nothing about the western life and to teach him "science" what would have been done? One would give him examples of Newton finding the gravitational force while an apple dropt onto his head.
BarisTurkkan 4 years ago
My parents do TM-Sidhi program for maybe 30 years and I grow up in such an environment. I can say that they are not staying still in the air but they are hoping. But the important thing is the force that they are generating is smt different than the mussles of their legs. Also that hoping would be meaningless if the reason they are doing it would be just jumping in the high.
BarisTurkkan 4 years ago
part2 :
Hoping is the result of their inner happiness and integration between body and mind become max. And that result is superior than the gravitational force.
BarisTurkkan 4 years ago
you have to pay to learn. its extremely secretive. a lot of what they promise is unfounded.
how can this not be a cult? im not saying it isn't beneficial, but it definitely bares the hallmarks of a cult!
roastedkidneybean 4 years ago
It appears to be deep hypnosis with religious undertones. I'm trying to look into TM more because I am trying to go to the school. I only want to go to the school to learn about sustainable living and I certainly don't want to be forced into religious practices.
IAmBefore 4 years ago
Sometimes I find hypnosis to be helpful, so maybe it wouldn't be such a bad thing anyway...
IAmBefore 4 years ago
My name is jason, and my mantra is 'jason u are becoming a god'.
P4k4er 4 years ago
That's funny. Thanks for amusing me.
amethystcrystal7 4 years ago
I am a Catholic convert, and am in sympathy with your remarks. However, Jesus did say: "You will be like gods". And Augustine did say: "Love, and do what you will." I think one could practice a form of TM using "Jesus" as a mantra. The basic idea is similar to hesychasm (use of the Jesus prayer), or Centering Prayer...
mcook10128 4 years ago
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I exist. My Lord exist. My search for His glimmer, my search for His grandeur is never ending. I am moving unto Him, moving along in a never ending path. The search for the Great by the little is called mysticism. The fundamental point of spirituality depends on this mysticism, and when this mysticism, this outward existence, coincides with the inner spirit of mysticism - the goal is reached. Unit becomes Cosmic - and for that - and for that attainment of this - we have come to the world.
gunapie 4 years ago 2
I used to practice TM when it only cost $35. It's not a organized religion yet it is based on many Hindu practices. God is referred to all the time but they claim it's a science. It always bothered me that they weren't truthful about the inherent religious nature of the practice. Besides, which scientific community frowns upon pre-marital sex? Meditation is a great practice but you don't need to spend a fortune nor deny it's religious traditions.
Namaste
scubapatty 4 years ago
Nice comment. I feel that way too and I love this video. And I live in Fairfield. Hoping to get away soon.
amethystcrystal7 4 years ago
Amen! Brothers and Sisters! :-) THE Mantras are names of Gods and Goddesses! If only they had told us that in the beginning I would have been fine with it but all the deceipt... that's what got to me.
angelstar22 4 years ago
Part 2: Meditate and be always happy & believe what is fitting to you! Frank Lotz, recertified Teacher of Maharishis Transcendental Meditation
Be blessed my dear, all Beings even most do not know pray to the One & Only (may He/She be called Jehova, God, Krishna, Buddha, Allah etc.) having only different Names and shapes!
frandra 4 years ago
Part 1: But you make people believe TM is a religion, it is not! I am TM- meditating Christian, many friends of mine who meditate a Jewish, you are right it is a free world and so is the Transcendental Meditation Movement, we respect all different religious approaches to experience GOD, might it be the Buddhistic way, the Hinduistic, the Jewish, the Moslem or the Christian, anyways it is the same GOD and TM give the direct experience my dear!
frandra 4 years ago
I made this video some time ago, and my feelings are different now. Should I remove the video? I think not. Remember, it's just a video. For entertainment.
angelstar22 4 years ago
Now I feel pity on you, after I know now why you did it! You soled your spiritual heritage for what? For getting accepted in your University, I feel really sorry for you. Remember, everyone receives the fruits of his actions, weather you believe or not, it is a cosmic law!
frandra 4 years ago
AND this planet is a free-will zone!! That's my belief. I am happy I created this video!
angelstar22 4 years ago
AND I realize it says in the bible Matthew 7:1 "Judge Not Lest Ye Be Judged!" I don't think I was judgmental in my video. I am only stating facts.
angelstar22 4 years ago
Nice pic. but the last 3 Min. you show pic. from the Indian Vedic Culture & Vedic Dewatas, pic. from the Hare Krishna Movement, a total different thing from TM (Transcendental Meditation). That are 2 different shoes my dear, even I do like the Hare Krishna people for their Vedic approach. But you have mingeled them into One & here you are totally wrong! In TM everyone beliefes what he or she likes, being a Christian a Jewish a Hindu or Bhuddist, does`nt matter. Cheeers Frank
frandra 4 years ago
Yes, I realize I stole the last pictures from a different source. When I first started TM we were offered many images of Krishna, Shiva, Ganesh and others in the TM bookstore. The images of the puja implements I realize are not TM also, but I needed something for my video. It's only a video after all. Thank you for your comment. :-) At the time I did this I was upset that the TM people told us TM was not a religion.
angelstar22 4 years ago
Yes, the practice is not a religion but many things are religious in nature, like the puja when one is initiated in to the TM practice. :-) I am "over it" now but the video remains. I made the video over a year ago. If you want to read my anthropology paper or my story let me know and I will send the links.
angelstar22 4 years ago
I think you are all crazy. I decided this video sucked when I noticed the background in the introduction was exactly the same as the stationary my grandmother uses to write me notes on.
An easy way to prevent conflict or argument in the future if your a christian... just keep your mouth shut and go to sunday school. That would prevent a lot of wars, protests, etc.
capn1time 4 years ago
Yeah, so? I needed a background for my introductions. It's pretty. And... I'm not a Christian. This was for a project I did in my college anthropology class.
angelstar22 4 years ago
Yeah keep your mouth shut and fall in line, dont think for yourself etc. Of course thats great advice!!! thank you!!!
Descenter 4 years ago
Very nice presentation. I enjoyed it very much. Thank you.
indiapete 4 years ago
"Christian theology says creation was made out of nothing "ex nihilo", not out of God Himself."
Hindu theology says something similar. The source of creation is unmanifest, and therefore "nothing."
"Adoring, worshipping God makes sense, has a purpose, but worshipping Nature makes no sense at all."
I agree, although some saints, Christian and Hindu, claim to see God in everything.
searchsummit 4 years ago
If God is really omnipresent, then if you analyze creation deeply enough, you will find God as the essence of it. If that is not the case, then you are saying that God is not really omnipresent - that he is excluded from a pretty large territory - i.e., creation. As I understand Hinduism (and I'm not a Hindu nor an expert) Nature is only God in the sense that everything is God, because God is omnipresent.
searchsummit 4 years ago
Doesn't Christianity believe that God is omnipresent? If that it so, tell me where He does NOT exist. Would He not permeate everything, including you?
searchsummit 4 years ago
I love this music and I practice TM,
Can anyone tell me where I can find this songs.
PygmyBrown 4 years ago
How can something that I practice by MYSELF, alone in MY ROOM, for my own personal benefit, be a cult? Nor is TM a religion. Religion is faith-based. TM is a technique, and there's nothing to believe. You don't even have to believe in it for it to work for you. Nice music though.
emanuelball 4 years ago
If God is omnipresent, then God and Nature are one. In Hinduism, Nature is not God. God is just recognized as omnipresent, as He is in deeper forms of Christianity. So oneness with God, which both Christianity and Hinduism espouse, means seeing the oneness of all things - the Divine Essence that pervades the individual as well as the natural world, mosquitos included.
searchsummit 4 years ago
Thank you for your comment. I like what you said. I like the idea of "seeing the oneness of all things." I'd certainly like to feel that. Are you a TMer?
angelstar22 4 years ago
I learned TM in 1968, became a teacher of it in 1970, and haven't missed a meditation since learning. But I'm not involved in the TM movement anymore and strictly speaking, am not doing TM anymore because I use a different mantra now that I got from Amma (Amritanandamayi - amma dot org). But I use it TM-style and credit MMY and TM with having saved and enriched my life immensely.
searchsummit 4 years ago
Thanks for responding. I started TM in 1975. I'm starting to think it wasn't all that bad. But I'm going to leave this video up because it gets comments! :-) I would LOVE to see Amma. We lost out on our chance back in the 80's when she used to go to Chicago. She's going to be in Albuquerque some time soon, but that's a 3 plus hour drive for us! Perhaps one day.
angelstar22 4 years ago
She's in Albuquerque right now. Then on to Dallas, then Iowa, where I am, then Chicago, DC, NYC, Boston, and Toronto, in that order.
searchsummit 4 years ago
whateva floats your boat people
coochicrook 4 years ago
satan? huh? you are a liar. sin? you're a moron. shut up before you hurt someone seriously. YOU are the closest thing there is to "satan" around here. be gone! be gone, mesquito!
endate2012 4 years ago
Like Christianity isn't already so diluted that your practically not following Jesus anymore even if you ARE a christian. That statement about choosing between Jesus and Maharishi must be out of context, because last time I checked Maharishi promotes any religion that puts positive attention on God.
HDub87 4 years ago
here here
endate2012 4 years ago
you're fullashit. EVERYTHING is addictive, especially air. so stop throwing the nfo off kilter for your own devices, liar. i've been doing tm since 1972 and i am not weak, assole.
endate2012 4 years ago
who gives a shit what anybody calls wharever? i've been meditating since 1973 cuz it feels good. i was in cosmic consciousness from summer 1972 til 8 months later. religion is crap. intentionally believing in anything is stupid and a waste of a good mind. get self-felt direct experience. rick stanley's tune erk me. be honest. i know what i'm talking about, btw.
endate2012 4 years ago
I guess TM doesn't work to well for you, cuz it didn't let you tap into the fact that "let it be" was written By Paul McCartney NOT John Lennon ... get it straight puppethead...
sowhatdude1 4 years ago
wow, some old dude with clothes on who shits just like everyone else when no one is looking.. CULT
MikeZdoesit 4 years ago
I'm not saying; I'm asking. I want people to look more closely before they jump into something like this.
angelstar22 4 years ago
Friends I am a former practicioner of TM but quit and I am now Christian and now my life is INFINITELY BETTER AND MORE PEACEFUL, TM is bad news please click my channel or username for more info! Blessings!
johlysid 4 years ago
johlysid, anyone who has ever learned TM knows you can be whatever religion you want while doing TM, you don't have to quit TM to be a Christian. I do not understand why you are fearful. Fear stems from not knowing or understanding.
synchronal 4 years ago
Friend, what I was trying to say is that The Heavenly Father doesn't want you to do TM and that it's a negative. Please click on my link and read the page or on the TM video I posted (read the description too)...also anyone please msg me if you want to know my story and how you can invite God into your life! Blessings.
johlysid 4 years ago
You are saying God does not want me to do TM? No, you are saying that, not God. You are finding things ugly in this world, not God.
synchronal 4 years ago
Everyone let me just say this. Please pray to the Heavenly Father and ask him about TM and revealing his true self to you, whatever you say please search your heart and make it genuine. Blessings!
johlysid 4 years ago
you are a free man to believe whatever you want to, but what you are telling here is the result of 2000 years of brain-washing, you better read the gnosis, Adam and Eve were driven away from paradise because of god´s envy! God can only get illumination if he has got a body!!! (like Jesus or Buddha)even the highest gods are ruled by the law of karma. I have studied the ancient scriptures in original sanskrit, the christian lies about sin, hell and so on never have any impact on me
florafox 5 years ago
they actually float?
MaDuke 5 years ago
I've never actually seen anyone float; but they say they do. Mostly I've seen hopping on one's butt.
angelstar22 5 years ago
meditation is a tool for the individual. far from a religion, Christianity is the source of abundant evil in this universe
Ljandj99 5 years ago
right on
endate2012 4 years ago
Same could be said about Christianity. lol
Infanteer1 5 years ago
Same could be said about Christianity lol
Infanteer1 5 years ago
Looks peaceful to me.
jonskyeagle 5 years ago
You imply ppl shouldn't criticise TM if it fails them. This is a democracy and we can criticise anything on any basis we choose. TM makes utterly ridiculous claims that are totally unsubstantiated and so they must be criticised for this, otherwise ppl would be fooled into thinking there is something to these claims and waste their time and money on a fraud.
alien8ted 5 years ago
I don't believe in TM anymore, but I wish ppl would get over this 'cult' word. It just means a group united by a belief or idea and is not in itself an indication the group must be bad. The word cult has got negative press 'cos of Jones, Koresh, Applewhite etc but it is still the basis of 'culture.'
alien8ted 5 years ago
Actually, their brand of Hinduism is a far cry from what's practiced nowadays in India. Most Indians don't really care for his schtick, its just Westerners that get sucked into it. I wouldn't call it a Hindu trap. I'd just call it a trap.
Gongsunsheng 5 years ago
I was in TM, but left when they tried to convince me they could teach me to levitate for £2000, but wouldn't offer any proof. The ridiculous claims they make have no basis in science or fact. Religion or cult, either way these navel-gazing frauds cannot deliver.
alien8ted 5 years ago
I PAID The money to learn to levitate!! At the time I learned I thought it was "all that" and I basically spent a year's worth of earnings to learn. I never did levitate. Sometimes I'd get a headache.
angelstar22 5 years ago
Any religion that empowers its people with love and unity of mind and spirit sounds pretty nice. Nobody has waged war in the name of a Transcendental Ideology.
DHMIII 5 years ago
Enjoy and go ahead, my friend. Frank Lotz, TM-Teacher & Artist
frandra 5 years ago