wow bull crap... perfect match for wrestling vs jiu jitsu.... u shouldnt get points if u get in a dominant positions and do nothing.... cerrone did so many sub attempts that look look like it hurted or chocked him a lot
@theguybelowmefarted Just to let you know, the guard is where a bjj wants you to be in. Control? that is what bjj calls control, in full guard. Takedowns with laying on top of someone is not control, control is where you want to be in. Wrestlers on top, bjj full guard, so who wins? the person who is more active
@theguybelowmefarted when a bjj controls u, u wont be able to throw any SIGNIFICANT strikes, just like olva and russow fight. give me a real argument boy
@MuckFe55555 Lol nice try buddy but this is MMA not BJJ. You stay on your back and you get punched and elbowed. Even black belts agree with me. Diego Sanchez beat up Nick Diaz when Diaz fought the whole fight on his back.
@theguybelowmefarted that was simply sanchez being the better grappler at that time. yea u can get punched and elbowed on your back but if your good enough you wont be able to, like clay and pettis, pettis controlled him off his back, but unfortunately was not able to do much on his back, but he barely got hit at all on his back. btw, there black are belts, and there are black belts - Royce Gracie. Understand it, then you realize the "black belts agree with me" is nothing but a fake
@MuckFe55555 Nothing but a fake? I'm talking about legit black belt instructors that have been training for over a decade here. In BJJ I would say guard is a neutral or even a dominant position, but in MMA the guy on top has the advantage. Plus the takedowns > Failed sub attempts. The only thing failed sub attempts are gonna do is tire you out.
@theguybelowmefarted The transition is tough, to say the top guy has the advantage is wrong, but i would say he has the advantage of the judges favoring him, an example would be wiman vs danzig, 2nd round i think, wiman got a deep armbar, and won that round even though danzig took him down, another ex, would be forest vs jackson, forest throwin up a lot of subs attempts and won the fight. Anything tires you out, beating the shit outta someone tires u out. When i say real BJJ, i met them in MMA.
@MuckFe55555 I'd say if it's a close sub that almost finishes the guy it's worth something, but if it's just like throwing up triangles and going for armbars and not getting anything, that's not equal to a takedown.
wow bull crap... perfect match for wrestling vs jiu jitsu.... u shouldnt get points if u get in a dominant positions and do nothing.... cerrone did so many sub attempts that look look like it hurted or chocked him a lot
MuckFe55555 5 months ago
@MuckFe55555 So failed sub attempts should win you a fight? Hmm....
theguybelowmefarted 1 month ago
@theguybelowmefarted Yes, how deep a submission is means something, do you think laying on top of someone doing nothing will win you a fight?
MuckFe55555 1 month ago
@MuckFe55555 Successful takedowns and control > failed submissions. Any one can waste energy on failed subs but what does it do?
theguybelowmefarted 1 month ago
@theguybelowmefarted Just to let you know, the guard is where a bjj wants you to be in. Control? that is what bjj calls control, in full guard. Takedowns with laying on top of someone is not control, control is where you want to be in. Wrestlers on top, bjj full guard, so who wins? the person who is more active
MuckFe55555 1 month ago
@MuckFe55555 Wait a minute, I didn't know this was a BJJ match. That explains everything! He obviously couldn't punch or elbow him in the face!
theguybelowmefarted 1 month ago
@theguybelowmefarted when a bjj controls u, u wont be able to throw any SIGNIFICANT strikes, just like olva and russow fight. give me a real argument boy
MuckFe55555 1 month ago
@MuckFe55555 Yep, just like Royce Gracie and Matt Hughes
theguybelowmefarted 1 month ago
@theguybelowmefarted royce wasnt the overall better fighter, its not all bjj of course. there are exceptions. overall, nice try, i win, you lose. gg
MuckFe55555 1 month ago
@MuckFe55555 Lol nice try buddy but this is MMA not BJJ. You stay on your back and you get punched and elbowed. Even black belts agree with me. Diego Sanchez beat up Nick Diaz when Diaz fought the whole fight on his back.
theguybelowmefarted 1 month ago
@theguybelowmefarted that was simply sanchez being the better grappler at that time. yea u can get punched and elbowed on your back but if your good enough you wont be able to, like clay and pettis, pettis controlled him off his back, but unfortunately was not able to do much on his back, but he barely got hit at all on his back. btw, there black are belts, and there are black belts - Royce Gracie. Understand it, then you realize the "black belts agree with me" is nothing but a fake
MuckFe55555 1 month ago
@MuckFe55555 Nothing but a fake? I'm talking about legit black belt instructors that have been training for over a decade here. In BJJ I would say guard is a neutral or even a dominant position, but in MMA the guy on top has the advantage. Plus the takedowns > Failed sub attempts. The only thing failed sub attempts are gonna do is tire you out.
theguybelowmefarted 1 month ago
@theguybelowmefarted The transition is tough, to say the top guy has the advantage is wrong, but i would say he has the advantage of the judges favoring him, an example would be wiman vs danzig, 2nd round i think, wiman got a deep armbar, and won that round even though danzig took him down, another ex, would be forest vs jackson, forest throwin up a lot of subs attempts and won the fight. Anything tires you out, beating the shit outta someone tires u out. When i say real BJJ, i met them in MMA.
MuckFe55555 1 month ago
@MuckFe55555 I'd say if it's a close sub that almost finishes the guy it's worth something, but if it's just like throwing up triangles and going for armbars and not getting anything, that's not equal to a takedown.
theguybelowmefarted 1 month ago
@theguybelowmefarted yea definitely agree, takedown over very crappy subs.
MuckFe55555 1 month ago
cerrone won
FIGHTFANNERD3 6 months ago
@FIGHTFANNERD3 henderson did. it tells you on the ufc site.
WHOAitssusan 6 months ago