Thanks for posting this! I watch the 700 club daily and they constantly tell stories about ppl who tithed 10 % or more and how thier life is so great now and how God has blessed them. They use these stories to influence ppl to give to thier ministry.
Usertm3172, Abraham and Jacob did not tithe out of obedience. There was no law to obey. They tithes for a different reason. Abraham tithed to Melchizedek because he was THE priest of the most high God. Jesus is priest after the order of Melchizedek. Look at my video response above to see the wonderful truth about the liberty that we have received!
Tithing is on income only, not gifts and or loans and certainly not after bills are paid. Secondly, tithing PRECEDED the Old Testament law. Abraham and Jacob both tithed out of obedience. Last time I checked both of them lived before Moses, the law giver. But you are correct in saying that the New T. believer follows the New T. But the New T. standard is always higher than the Old Testament. So my thought would be that New testament giving is in excess of 10%.
Everything we own belongs to God.Are we good stewards of it? Do we help the poor, the orphan & the widow as stated in scriptures or do we spend it selfishly on ourselves and our pleasures, saying 'we work hard, we deserve it'.The Lord let me know I was dying in my wealth & i had to remedy that by tithing properly.Consider Matt16:26 For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul? Also Mark 10:25.
The fact that you were taught to tithe 10% of your student loans proves you never really had an accurate defintion of tithing or income. Student loans are debt, they do not count as income; you should have never tithed on that because it has to be paid back. Your income is what is LEFT OVER after all your basic expenses (food, clothing, utilties, rent, transportation, taxes) are paid.
I'm not against tithing, but I just can't stand the way organized religion twists it's defintion.
cool, video. i recently quit. had been a faithful tither, but like paul says, give as your are lead. i give offerings, but not tithes. the tithe is never mentioned and the tithe in old testament times was food, not cash. firstfruits=fruit. the video makes it very plain, however those that choose to remain veiled will stay that way.
@Cdouglas0906 Your ignorance is probably brainwashing. Brainwashing is very hard to get delivered from. However, Jesus promised that if you would abide in the Word, then you would be truly His disciple and you would know the truth and the truth would make you free. Give it a try.
You're terribly deceived to think that we choose to not tithe because we want to keep the money. You got that brainwashing from lying preachers or your own greedy heart.
@Cdouglas0906 You ignorance of the Word is appalling. Acts 15 is about what to tell the Gentiles about the keeping the Law. Why didn't they tell the Gentiles to tithe? Why had NO PREACHER EVER BROUGHT THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION. Because they don't trust God for their provision, but they want YOUR money.
Preachers KNOW things about tithing that they have BEEN FORCED TO CONSIDER because of their time spent in the Word BUT THEY WON'T TELL YOU because of their UNBELIEF and refusal to trust God.
@Cdouglas0906 Boy, are you ever thick. No wonder you still believe in tithing. You're thick, stubborn, dull of hearing and you refuse to believe that you can be wrong...
Or is it that you don't think you can still learn. Whatever it is, you're too hard-headed and stubborn for me to want to waste my time. I told you what to do and that's read your Bible, but you obviously don't believe that will help you. Then it won't. Faith is the key to hearing and receiving from God.
@IamaFreeWillOffering Hey genius, I used the word of God to prove my point. Daft people like yourself are making claims with no backup. I did read my bible dummy, now go read your' s before arguing because then you wont make yourself look dense...like you do now. P.S- Your messages will be deleted UNREAD from now on, no matter how many times you change your name. Tithe is and will always be biblical.
@Cdouglas0906 This isn't a debate. You're too brainwashed to understand the differences in the Old and New Covenants. Tithing DIDN'T NEED TO BE STOPPED. (You're incredibly ignorant of the Scriptures) because it WAS ONLY COMMANDED OF THE JEWS. Duh. Christians WERE NEVER asked, told, suggested, not did ANY SCRIPTURE EVEN HINT that Christians should tithe, IF you THINK ONE DOES, read it again and find out just how brainwashed you are.
@Cdouglas0906 I suspect that your 90 years old and your brain is so frozen you can no longer learn. That you can be presented with so many facts that repudiate the lies you believe about tithing and you DON'T EVEN BOTHER TO PAY ENOUGH ATTENTION TO EXAMINE WHAT WAS SAID...
it's just mind-bogglingly STUPID.
Did you say study? LOL I don't need to study because I know this stuff. I've been reading God's Word AND HEARING HIM for almost 40 years. That's why I know you're ignorant.
4.Because that’s NOT what the chapter was about! You have proven your ignorance. When did I ever say that I "think that we choose to not tithe because we want to keep the money?" Show me the scripture that states we no longer have to tithe. Not something that you "interpreted" but where it states it. It does specifically state, "Will a man rob God, Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.” Pretty clear. Tithe, it is YOUR responsibility.
3.No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are.” Then he list miracles showing that God did them without being circumcised. Instead of circumcision in verse 19 James tells them 4 things they must refrain from. In verse 24 they go back and address the issue at hand. CIRCUMCISION. Read verse 28 and 29. Why didn’t they talk about murder? Why not lying? Why didn’t they list the do’s and don’ts?
2.The Pharisees said that they MUST be circumcised and Barnabas told them in Acts 15:8-11 that God purifies hearts through faith, and that the Jews didn’t have to go through circumcision as adults and that it was a burden on them. “Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of the disciples a yoke that neither we nor our fathers have been able to bear?
@Cdouglas0906 You don't know why this unbelief consumes the preachers but I'll tell you. Because Galatians says, "you are SEVERED FROM CHRIST, you who seek to be justified by LAW. YOU HAVE FALLEN FROM GRACE.
The devil PUTS PRESSURE ON PREACHERS that if they tell the truth that tithing is OLD COVENANT, NO ONE WILL SUPPORT YOU!
satan does this to KEEP THE CURSE ON THE CHURCH. That's the consequences of being under the Law -- a CURSE. So, because of self-preservation (UNBELIEF) the preachers LIE.
@Cdouglas0906 Yeah, I know you thought all these preachers were being faithful to God's Word, but their consciences have CONFRONTED THEM WITH THEIR LIES and they've rejected the truth and they curse the church by their idolatry and unbelief.
Don't kid yourself. The truth is in the Scriptures as plain as day. The preachers ARE LYING AND THEY KNOW IT. That's WHY they preach it so much -- they know the power of brainwashing. See -- it worked with you.
@Cdouglas0906 After becoming a Believer, I tithed off my GROSS for seven years and everything I prayed and believed for, I got, but I could not attribute ONE blessing to tithing and I started reading the Bible more carefully and found out that the preachers KNEW they were lying. That was OVER 30 years ago and I'm STILL getting the TITHING LIES WASHED OUT OF ME. Brainwashing DOESN'T LEAVE EASILY!
I said it plainly. You're brainwashed. You have a lot of Bible study in front of you. Get started.
1. Your ignorance is probably lack of knowledge. It happens don't worry. YOUR ignorance of the Word is appalling. They didn’t tell the Gentiles to tithe because that’s not what Acts 15 is about. In that chapter it states men said that unless you where circumcised, according to custom taught by Moses, they couldn’t be saved. This caused an argument so Paul and Barnabas and others went to the elders concerning THAT issue. Acts 15:2.
Christ is in the order of Melchezidec, he is the one who "liveth" mentioned here. This was before Moses law was given, if you want to do business with God, then you will give Him the 10th just as Abraham did and Isaac and Jacob.
Heb 7:8 And here men that die receive tithes; but there he receiveth them, of whom it is witnessed that he liveth.
9 And as I may so say,Levi also, who receiveth tithes, payed tithes in Abraham.
10 For he was yet in the loins of his father,when Melchisedec met him.
God owns the whole earth and all that we own is really God's. He let's us USE it while we live, but He expects a portion of it to be returned unto His household for the needs of the poor and the spreading of His Word. Even Paul knew this. That SUNday morning collection plate passed around... look who it is really for.
1 Cor 16:1 Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye.
22Is it lawful for us to give tribute unto Caesar, or no? 23But he perceived their craftiness, and said unto them, Why tempt ye me? 24Shew me a penny. Whose image and superscription hath it? They answered and said, Caesar's. 25And he said unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which be Caesar's, and unto God the things which be God's.
You can still tithe if you choose, but it should not be binding. What's the condition of your heart if you tithe? If you choose to tithe it's not like you're better then those who don't. I tithe but I know that I don't have to. I tithe because I want to.
Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. Test me in this,” says the LORD Almighty, “and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that you will not have room enough for it. I will prevent pests from devouring your crops, and the vines in your fields will not cast their fruit,” says the LORD Almighty. “Then all the nations will call you blessed, for yours will be a delightful land,” says the LORD Almighty.
I agree with this.I almost changed my mind recently back to tithing as being not just for the Jews.A very good teaching years ago demonstrated how our taxes are tithes.(used for the poor,charity,churches tax free etc) .We should be led by the spirit.The collections should be for the poor or sick....
Act 20:35 I have shewed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive.
So when we accept Christ we become Jews and are subject to Jewish laws and customs is that what the supporters of tithing are saying? The bottom line to tithing and the whole law is we are not Jews we are gentiles and the law was given to the Jews. Acts 15 really sums it up but I don't hear that scripture preached much.
Study Hebrews 7 -13. It explains in detail why Jews whom accept Christ no longer tithe. Hebrews was written to the Hebrews(Jews) who were still zealous for the Mosaic Law even though Christ came to redeem them from the Law. As for us(Gentile believers), we never had the Mosaic Law and were never instructed to follow it. Study Acts 15. Please understand that even under the Mosaic Law NO ONE was commanded to tithe MONEY! Please study before you respond. GOD Bless!!!
There are normal expenses and then there are "devourer" expenses. Normal expenses are things we must all pay like rent, mortgages, food, car expenses, utilities and taxes. "Devourer" expenses in our modern urban world are things like accidents, injuries, scams, sicknesses that rob our wealth, and things that are lost stolen or breakdown before their time. If we tithe God promises to protect us from these "devourer" expenses. Tithing is way less than paying the "devourer"
If don't have the money to pay the tithe pray and ask the Father to blessed your hands to pay the tithe. Father have mercy on me for I have robbed you in tithes and offering please bless my hands to pay you the tithe in the name of Jesus Christ, then wait on him patiently and he will honor your prayer. Amen
Well your quite correct you do not need to tithe as it is now under the law. However it remains a clear guide as to what is acceptable. Also remember don't muzzle the ox and in humility respect the men God places in authority. If you feel their spirit is in any way evil leave quickly so as not to receive that curse on your family .Any act of trying to 'teach' the teacher will be spiritual rebellion.
Awesome vid. I found the same thing over time. I find it interesting how some legalistically hold to tithing, which is from the law of Moses, in hopes of claiming a financial blessing but somehow at the same time consider God's moral law (ten commandments) to be null and void or nailed to the cross. Not trying to offend anybody but I'm just saying...
I am free... Jesus set me free...I'M NOT BOUND ANY LONGER TO THE WRITTEN LAW...BUT STILL I TITHES BECAUSE EVEN BEFORE THE LAW WAS WRITTEN ABRAHAM GIVE HIS TITHES...AND THIS FAITH WILL I FOLLOW..
@foreversheneil Abraham from what I recall only did it ONCE and he did it after a war. So go to war get some spoils and only give once in your lifetime if you want to follow his example. If you are giving your ten percent every time you get paid than you are not following his example. Read your bible again and be truly free.
@foreversheneil ill give it to you after you find me a verse where Jesus and his disciples tithe. If you want you can read the whole new testament and show me so that would include Paul and everyone else after him who established the church doctrine. Good luck in your hunting. Im assuming this will be the last time you reply, so cheers my friend.
@notleftbehind ...it seems like you can't provide me a single verse that says "don't tithe",... you are false teacher who are trying to deceive the true believers of Christ....!!!! By the way your answer is like a sound of roaring lion...
a devil's tactics, like what he done in the garden of eden, that's why eve is being deceived...
@foreversheneil It seems like you cant give me a verse that says you have to for believers in the new testament. It seems you cant find me a verse where Jesus tithe or where the apostles tithe. It seems you cant give me a verse where its instructed for the church to do it. If you can't give me a verse I guess that makes you a false teacher and like a devil who roars with his tactics.
@foreversheneil It was never the question whether the bible says to tithe or not to tithe. Understand what the discussion was because it was about whether tithes apply to the new believer. DONT manipulate or TWIST the discussion cause it seems you are the one operation in the devils tactics. So now that i hope you get it ill ask you again. Find me a verse that says yes to tithing for the church. Find me a verse that the apostles who build the church and its doctrines say to tithe.
..i will not go any further just answer this simple question, and that's it.
don't go somewhere just answer this...
my friend,your answer be done unto you !
WHO WILL I FOLLOW?
...all of you guys that saying to stop tithing or Jesus Himself that says,"You ought to tithe but without forgetting about those more important matters."(Mat 23:23)
@foreversheneil Learn what the bible teaches n not what they tell you it says. Dont be lazy and study! That passage they were still in the law of Moses. You are not a Jew nor are we in the law Moses. Dude are you that brain washed. LOL even the verse you put proves the point we make. where in that verse does it say they tithe (MONEY). Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cumin. Im still waiting for the bible verses cmon?
Yes, you are right about the tithe, but if I may (please understand where im coming from), you contradict yourself in correcting and then proceed to insults.
"Learn what the bible teaches n not what they tell you it says. Dont be lazy and study!" This would be best served kept in ones own heart, it is good advice, but not in a condescending way towards others who may not know as much as you.
Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud.
It is not rude,
it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres...
Again, I hope you do not take offense to my posts. It was never my intent to offend, but like you, to try and bring the Truth to the discussion.
@TheBrianisneat I was never talking to you I was talking to forevershenell. I know what i do and how i do it and if i have to sound offensive so someone can get the truth than I dont mind. There is a time for everything there is a time to be nice or mean to kill to live to cry to laugh its not always about being mushy and lovely. Grow up and stop being so soft and touchy.
So what im understanding, from all that you have written, is that you want to take all the scripture that supports the way you feel at any given moment to make your argument "right". Then at the same time disregard any scripture that is contrary to what your doing.......You must watch Televangelists, SO true to form......so true to form.
@TheBrianisneatFrom all that I have written? I was talking about tithe. So pile up all the verses you can find on tithe i would be glad to prove Gods word with Gods word. Actually televangelists are the ones who promote giving and Im going against what they preach on so what you are saying doesnt even make any sense.
@onethingsailing well said ! Jews are Israelites and as a christian i count my self as a spiritual israelite..(and i dont think you are). most of the promise of God is for the Jews..for His people...for the descendants of Jacob the Israelites... there's so many promises of God in Old Testaments and i'm happy because as a gentile and as a spiritual israelite,i'm covered with those promises.. one of the promises i claimed is Jer.29:11...(so you are not covered with these bcoz u r not a Jew)
@foreversheneil What the heck is a spiritual Israelite that term is no where in the bible. A gentile is a gentile and a Jew is a Jew. Both can be saved under Jesus but both dont mix.
@2105Jack being grafted and making it sound like you have replaced the Jews in some spiritual sense are two different things. Just to let you know that is called replacement theology so you need to be careful who you are listening to and who is teaching you the bible. If its your pastor i would consider finding a church where they teach the bible as it is written. Or do your own research,study and you will see the difference.
@notleftbehind the jews are not going to make it in since they are the seed of esau and the most high hate the jews who came out of the caucasus mountains and converted to Judaism. the people spoken of in the bible is hebrews who are black people since jews are imposters they are not included in the tribe of Yacobs children he had 12 sons and Yahuda was one of the sons where the linage of the Messiah came through. but remember their were 11 other sons and a daughter
@foreversheneil Study Hebrews 7 -13. It explains in detail why Jews whom accept Christ no longer tithe. Hebrews was written to the Hebrews(Jews) who were still zealous for the Mosaic Law even though Christ came to redeem them from the Law. As for us(Gentile believers), we never had the Mosaic Law and were never instructed to follow it. Study Acts 15. Please understand that even under the Mosaic Law NO ONE was commanded to tithe MONEY! Please study before you respond. GOD Bless!!!
what is much better in the sight of the Lord, to give or not to give?
giving tithes will not save anyone...neither will bring you to heaven...only by accepting Jesus as our Lord and Savior will saved us.But still I give my tithes because I want to honor Him and give thanks to all what He have done to me. like Abraham did,(the father of my faith,not yours) though there's no law about tithes,he tithes.
i'm not a pastor, i'm just a simple and ordinary born again christian.
some self-proclaimed christians don't give their tithes bcoz they always say and think that churches ..the pastors will only use these for their personal interest,it is true that some churches and pastors are doing these bad things, and God knows them.God will surely punish them, but bear in mind,Jesus never opposed tithing, he affirmed it to do so.
...all of you guys that saying to stop tithing or Jesus Himself that says,"You ought to tithe but without forgetting about those more important matters."(Mat 23:23)
@onethingsailing he was talking about the Hebrew Israelites the tribe of Yahuda since there is no j in the Hebrew language it couldn't be jewish. Hebrews are black people not christians the most high did not give religion but the commandments which are 613 laws to live by which he reached in and took the ten that over lapped and interlocked the other 603. Moshe came from mt sinai with the commandments the first 5 books of the bible not religion and not christianity (paganism) Moshe a black man.
@onethingsailing Your statement is somewhat misleading. When a person is under the law they are being disobedient to the instructions of the Most High. Please read Galatians 3:23-25 and I Timothy 1:8-11. Of course, if a person believes they could be justified by keeping the law is truely being mislead and without understanding (Galatians 3:10-11). A person is cursed for being disobedient especially without repentance (Deuteronomy 28:15-19).
@foreversheneil Your understanding of the scriptures falls short. Jesus was speaking to the religious Jewish Leaders. Are you Hebrew born? If you read this scripture closely you will notice the tithe is in the form of food. Money was never to be used for the tithe.
@foreversheneil "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the LAW: justice and mercy and faith."
Jesus confirms that tithing was required under the LAW. He doesn't mention money, only agriculture, as this was what the law required. The Pharisees were so pedantic about tithing that they counted the leaves in their little herb gardens. But, they missed the whole point: justice and mercy and faith.
@foreversheneil Jesus DIDN'T tithe by the way as he was a carpenter and didn't own any land and the poor were not required to tithe. There is a difference between the old covenant law and the new testament grace. We are now justified through faith in Christ and live by grace. We are not required to practise the law and when we do there are consequences to our Christian walk. Gal 3:10-13. We are suppose to give as the Holy Spirits leads not out of necessity. 2 Cor 9:7
@foreversheneil Your problems are that you don't understand "rightly dividing the word of truth" nor do you understand the difference between the Old and New Covenants and lastly and equally important, you swallow the lies of lying preachers who would know better if they had listened to their consciences instead of their greed.
i'm not a pastor, i'm just a simple and ordinary born again christian.
some self-proclaimed christians don't give their tithes bcoz they always say and think that churches ..the pastors will only use these for their personal interest,it is true that some churches and pastors are doing these bad things, and God knows them.God will surely punish them, but bear in mind,Jesus never opposed tithing, he affirmed it to do so.
what is much better in the sight of the Lord, to give or not to give?
giving tithes will not save anyone...neither will bring you to heaven...only by accepting Jesus as our Lord and Savior will saved us.But still I give my tithes because I want to honor Him and give thanks to all what He have done to me. like Abraham did,(the father of my faith,not yours) though there's no law about tithes,he tithes.
this is a huge dose of reality on this subject, one that money grubbing false churches like the MORmONey church/LDS Inc, wont like. Jesus hates those kind of operations. you are entirely correct as well, much to their chagrin! Good Job !
Wonderful way of explaining this what i believe to be deception to put the Lord children under bondage, some KNOW its not biblical and others are just blind to the truth. blessings--AND also I believe in giving definantly but as the Spirit leads us.
I stopped tithing when I had a vision of me grasping air ... I heard clearly that the air represented my money. I believe, 100 percent, that tithing brings on curses. I went from a surplus before tithing to a major deficit while tithing. I no longer give a damn penny to the so-called church. BTW, I do not attend church. I help those in need: the sick, the widow, the homeless, the addict, single mothers ...
It is the Hexagram (Seal of Solomon, six pointed star)
Name of a man = Solomon
Number of its name = 666 talents of gold collected by Solomon in one year
Three pairs of triangles with their apexes touching. Each pair collectively represents the number 6, which qualifies the whole symbol as a graphical representation of 666
Solomon was the apostate king of israel that led judah into idolatry and worship of the gods of the mystery religions (satan)
This is a lie from the devil, to keep God's people from being blessed. "The tithe is the Lord's" and if you take that to buy a new wig. You are a robber and stealing from God. May God have mercy on you for leading His people astray!
@christopherkozoriz Tithing can be a curse for some of Gods peoplle? I say this to you who say "You are a robber and stealing from God." who do you think you are and how dare you judge me! Remember what the Apostle Paul said, remember that from the very point that you judge your brother, there will you be judged! You people stop judging your brother, dont you think that maybe as a fellow child of God he may already know what he must do? stop judging
Correct tithes were never money, but it does take money to get things done. If I pay my tithes, and the evangelist, pastor etc, does'nt do what they are supposed to do. God will take care of them, I have no reason to worry, and God will take care of me for obedience.
“The Levite, because he has no portion or inheritance among you, and the alien, the orphan and the widow who are in your town, shall come and eat and be satisfied, in order that the LORD your God may bless you in all the work of your hand which you do.”
You are supposed to tithe Widows, orphans and aliens too
yes, I do understand that's all they had. God knows the treasure to our hearts is our money. If you belong to a church that needs repairs food will not help, if a widow or widower comes to the church for assitance food will not do it. I understand that may be some one has stolen from you or took advantage of in the church dealing with money. I stand on Gods word and what he has blessed me with. God bless and keep you.
@mslittlegalpaps I agree, we should give money to support the work of the Lord and to the poor and needy. The only point is that tithes were NEVER MONEY! Just because someone understands that New Covenant believers paying a certain percentage is not scriptural does not mean that they are against giving. Quite the contrary. We should give cheerfully as we purpose in our hearts. Not grudgingly or of necessity as the false doctrine of tithing is being preached today. GOD Bless!!!
@mslittlegalpaps Tithes were not MONEY!!! Study Hebrews Chapters 7 - 13. It explains why we no longer follow the Old Covenant ceremonial laws which included tithes from the land, (fruits, vegetables,& grains), as well as tithes from the flocks,(bulls, goats, rams, etc.) NEVER MONEY! Hebrews was written to the Jews who converted to Christianity but were still following Old Covenant laws. Also, please understand that Gentile converts to Christianity were never instructed to follow Old Covenant law
These scriptures have nothing to do with the New Testament church. God is speaking to Jewish Priest under a covenant God had with Israel. Also, under that covenant only food items were tithed.
no one can force you to stop tithing or persuade you. read malichi 3and 11. we must practice being obedient to Gods work. Stop worrying what the others do, God will jude them. We must strive to be obedient to Gods word. I know that i'm where I am today because of Gods blessing me, being obedient to his word. I pray you will read and let God use you.
These scriptures have nothing to do with the New Testament church. God is speaking to Jewish Priest under a covenant God had with Israel. Also, under that covenant only food items were tithed.
Giving DOES NOT equal tithing. And not all giving has to be to the "church". Wake up people and stop being exploited by false prophets who are more materialistic than the world. "Churches" need to live within their means just like their members. And shame on any so-called church that will not help a member in time of need! Talk about unbiblical!
...i'm wondering why there is a lot of people saying ... Lord i will follow you ..i will serve you.. i will give my heart to you... my soul... my strength... even my life...but not my tithes... not my 10% income...,so ridiculous....you deceived yourself,
..how can you say that you can give to God everything but you fail to give your tithes...it's love of money that is in you
God does not need your money!
I give my tithes not because of the law but because I love Him..
@forevershenei so jesus died for nothing? jesus died to free us from sin and the law, if u try to obey the law to please God then u make jesus crucified in vain as the bible says, if we follow the holy spirit then we will be holy but if the spirit doesnt make us want to tithe then we are not obligated too, you preach the law, so u preach against freedom in jesus, if u say people have to do something other than have faith and obey christ then u preach wrong doctrine, jesus never said to tithe
@foreversheneil .. But God look unto your FAITH... what is Law ,??? Love .. what is LOVE ? love your neighbor and Love your God.. if you remain in him Just obey it is our proved that we love God.. We need to put into Work our FAith ,,and Obey what He said ... Just read and ask your TRUE brothers and SisTErs in Christ .. to those who really know the Bible...God bless you ..
@foreversheneil It's all about the truth. Tithing was not given to the church. Yes it's nothing wrong with giving to the church freely from the heart. But when man use a piece of the old law to gain money, it's wrong. If u going to keep the law, u have to keep all of it. I stopped paying tithes over 30 years ago, n i'm bless. God even blessed me to retire at 48, house etc. I give, to people starving all over the world every month, even to church, but freely. U can't buy your way to heaven.
@foreversheneil Yes, i love the Lord too. That's why i trust him. U don't have to do everything a preacher tells u if it's against the word of God. U have to check what he says with the Bible. That's why many are being deceived today thinking they are saved n are not, because they just believe whatever the preacher says. Acts 2;38 is God's only plan of salvation for us today for everybody. Man try to changed that too. God bless!
@foreversheneil I understand where u coming from, but a lie can never to the truth, n the truth can never be a lie. God won't even go along with a lie. Why can't man tell the truth n trust God with freely giving? If God called them to have a church building, he will take care of them n the building. There's no need to lie. God can't put on people minds to give freely to support ? Why should God if the preacher is lying to get money? It's all about trusting in God, preachers too.
@foreversheneil Tithing is not God's command; it is mans. You are the one deceived. You give tithes to GET money back in financial blessing. None of this is in scripture. Read your bible. God wants our obedience & love. God doesn't spend your tithe. Your pastor does. You give your tithe to be in good standing with your pastor not god. People make pastors their idols & do whatever they say "blindly." You are an idol worshipper. This isn't about your love for God. You want "the money blessing."
@foreversheneil Umm if you are going to serve God and worship God than he says to do it in spirit and truth hmm big word there ( truth ) Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses and catholics call themselves Christians and many do love God but are they serving God in truth? Is not a matter for some if we love money or dont want to give but its a matter of living in truth and not being brainwashed like the majority of people.
@foreversheneil do you keep the Sabbath day? Why not give God one day out of seven?? You're going to give God everything, including tithe, but not His Sabbath??
See how similar that sounds?
Its abolished, meaning, people dont HAVE to.... its up to them...
The word speaks for itself! GREAT JOB!!! the only people who would dislike this is those who don't read their bibles and take their pastor's word for everythng. Study to show thyself approved!!!!!!
Do not think I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them . I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear ,not the smallest letter,not the last stroke of a pen,will by any means disappear from the law until everything is accomplished.
Amen Brother. You set me free. I had great difficulty with ththing because the Holy Spirit in me wanted me to give cheerfully to the poorand help the family that is in need; but the Holy Spirit was not telling me to tithe to my Roman Catholic Church. Pastors after pastors on youtube saying how you are going to Hell if you don't tithe, I found such assertion very strange.
No Tithing for Christians. At no time were first-century Christians commanded to pay tithes. The primary purpose of the tithing arrangement under the Law had been to support Israel’s temple and priesthood; consequently the obligation to pay tithes would cease when that Mosaic Law covenant came to an end as fulfilled, through Christ’s death on the torture stake. (Eph 2:15; Col 2:13, 14
FUTHERMORE, even though the NT doesn't teach on Tithing, it speaks extensively on the believers giving to the church for reasons of supporting the poor. Galatians also speaks about supporting the ministry, which is what tithes are also meant to do. Even though the tithes we use is a little extra-biblical, the concept still stands.
Tithes also keep the church running, and the pastor out of the street. Maybe not for ALL churches, but a good number of them. Tithing doesn't just have spiritual purposes, but practical purposes that are necessary. That being said, Tithing isn't legalistic, it's not just a way to get people to give them money, it's also a way to teach a congregation the concept of giving. I'm very sorry, but I'm very, very sure that God would not tell a believer to stop giving.
Someone doesn't understand the point of tithing. Typical. But seriously, if you consider tithing to be a burden, or "legalistic" don't do it... Just remember who gave you the 100% to begin with.
@joentheamouni3 I find your remark extremely offensive because you use the word "tithing." Supporting the poor? 0.18% sounds like supporting the poor to you? That's how much average church gives out to the poor.
I don't see why I need to give money to Benny Hinn so that he can fly around in his private jet and staying at a hotel that costs $10,000/ night.
Then again, why even bother? My God, who speaks to me daily, doesn't even know who you are.
@NotFlaking And yet there is still a debt to be paid in the minds of Christian retards. According to them babies are born evil. This debt was paid for by imaginary Jesus for the sins of two imaginary people in a magic garden. If the bible said 2 + 2 = 5 then brainwashed retards like you would believe it. The bible has no basis in reality. It was written for power and control over stupid people like you. I'd say think about it but I don't think this is possible.
On of the must ignored bible verses in the New Testament
Romans 10:4 Christ is the end of the law for righteousness for every believer.
When you quote Matthew 15:17 & 18 that not one jot would pass away from the law Please note that two keys words BUT and Until. I believe they are continuation words!
If you tithe, you must also believe in circumcision, still practice ritual sacrifice of unblemished animals, keep all the festvals like passover, wear sackcloth and ashes etc. Do we really need the old covenant?- NO.
Roman 8:2 says we are free from the law of sin and death.
It's about time we stopped thinking about money, which is where all the preachers are focussing these days, & get back to what the gospel of Jesus is all about. Salvation.
If you tith on a loan, there is a phrase that fits you. A Fool and his money will soon part ! You don't tith on loans !
You said the Old Laws of Religion are not good now days. You are wrong. Jesus said I come to not change one tittle of the law at all. i come to bring salvation.
now you said during the old Church no one give money. So the fellow who dropped dead for ling of money give to the Group of Jesus. OR the old lady who give 2 pence & Jesus said she give more than any !
@turtle4aire the 10 % that is suppose to be give is a Suggestion and not set in stone & give to people when they ask how much ! To be real here Everything belongs to the Lord and your just taking care of it till he returns.
Now you need to get out of the Prosparity Gospels Churches. They put Tithing above all and even above salvation. They will tell you, you are going to hell if you don't tith ! Creflo Dollar, T.D. Jakes, Eddie Long, and Benny Hinn are a bunch of crooks to say the least !
Excellent Video! I use to be one of those Christians who only went to church and did not read my bible. Once I really got on the word of God I found out the truth about tithing. They say if you don't tithe that you are "cursed with a cursed", but Jesus came and delivered us from the curse of the law. I am glad more and more Christians are finding out the truth. Give but not out of pressure, not because it's the law, but because you have been lead by the spirit and give cheerfully.
This cannot be a serious video or message! Tithing began BEFORE the law, required DURING the law and instituted AFTER the law! Matthew 23:23! So I guess the ones who yell we are not under the law, run around lying, fornicating, idol worshipping, coveting, etc... and everything else that was given to us "under the law" including the 10 Commandments!!!
@onethingsailing You won't go to hell for not tithing but it does leave the door open for the devil to rip you off. The devil rips people off by sicknesses and injuries which always cost a lot of money for treatment. The devil rips people off by things getting lost or stolen or breaking down long before they are supposed to. The devil rips you off by scaming you of getting you to make bad financial decisions.
@CraigGraham Only God can decide if one goes to hell for not paying tithes isn't it written all liars and thieves will have their part in the lake of fire, unless they repent. Why not pay the tithe if you have the money the Lord has blessed you with the finances and you spend it on technology, cars, houses, clothes, video games, alcohol, drugs, movies, plays, concerts and cable tv and more. I agree with all these resources can be taken away by what the bible cause.
@CraigGraham Continue- What the bible cause "Devour" The Lord said 'bring me all the tithe where there will meat in my house (meat is the word) and (PROVE ME) and see want I open the windows of heaven and pour you out a blessing you will not have enough" "Then I will rebuke the devourer for you, so that it will not destroy the fruits of the ground; nor will your vine in the field cast its grapes," says the LORD of hosts." Sounds like paying the tithe will keep blessing flowing in your life.
@CraigGraham Study Hebrews 7 -13. It explains in detail why Jews whom accept Christ no longer tithe. Hebrews was written to the Hebrews(Jews) who were still zealous for the Mosaic Law even though Christ came to redeem them from the Law. As for us(Gentile believers), we never had the Mosaic Law and were never instructed to follow it. Study Acts 15. Please understand that even under the Mosaic Law NO ONE was commanded to tithe MONEY! Please study before you respond. GOD Bless!!!
Yes we're redeemed from the curse of the law but we tithe with a joyful heart not out of legality that's why you aren't blessed. Because you tithed out of fear of the law not the love of your heart. which without that your lost anyway so examine your heart and quit leading others astray because you lack a giving out of love relationship with the Lord.
Thanks for your video,realy good.Just recently i have become a non tither.I had tithed for 26 years.Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law....................Galatians 3:13.Tuesday 31-5-2011.
Dhorrock said the maker of this Video should not be taken seriously if he thinks student loans is a source of income. I had to chuckle because he knows nothing about what the Tithe Pharisees say in some Legalist churches that even welfare money is income and student loans included. I have heard them say any and every dollar is increase no matter what source!
Acts 13:39 Through him everyone who believes is freed from all things by which you could not be freed from by the law of Moses. I have been typing too fast and doing several things at the same time which means I have made some typo's.Thank God I don't have to be perfect, JESUS is perfect for me.
For the maker of this Video. I am praying that God continues to use you and protect you from the enemy who may not like you coming against his sacred cow the tithe lie. I appreciate you for being so obedient and bold as to address the lie that binds so many people in fear of never paying enough or never doing enough. Plus you made it clear you are still a giver and I can discern you really really love the Lord.
Precious one of the Lord Onethingsailing thank you for going against the deception of having to pay God for his free blessings. It took a whole lot of courage to go the lie that binds. We have been set free to freely give, not by fear of a threats of the law before the cross .
John 1:16 "For out of his bounty we were all given grace upon grace (one blessing after another is what another bible translations said)
John 1:17 The law was given to Moses but Grace and truth come from Jesus Christ.
Regarding Abraham's blessing in Genesis 15:12 He was in a deep sleep when in verse 17 God performed the Covenant ritual ceremony. The symbol of God was the burning lamp and torch that passed between the cut animals. Abraham did not get the blessings by his works. It was by his faith and he was asleep because God was sending a message that it was a covenant by the grace, unmerited favor of God alone.
A good tip. Get a study bible and read the notes in the bible and commentary it will really help. Look up the verses mentioned on here and the notes besides them. The final word is Jesus!
Hebrew 8:6 But now he (Jesus) has obtained a more excellent ministry by how much more he is the Mediator of a BETTER covenant which was established upon BETTER promises.
It is called the New Covenant of Grace Beloved Comprehend?
l was done but was emailed and decided to post these bible verses. Someone who has an hear to hear can understand the Law vs Grace, The Age of Grace under the New Covenant vs Old Covenant of law and works. The strong hold of this day is tithing in Paul's day it was circumcision same stronghold to diminish grace and the cross different label but this time it comes with a price tag.
Jesus paid in full for free 4 your daily grace, period!
oh love this - thanks!!
mivoice62 4 days ago
Very nice..Amen
dcoxkaty 1 week ago
My eyes were opened in 1984. Glad to have you on board!
larmar0 2 weeks ago
Thanks for posting this! I watch the 700 club daily and they constantly tell stories about ppl who tithed 10 % or more and how thier life is so great now and how God has blessed them. They use these stories to influence ppl to give to thier ministry.
MerryJoy123 3 weeks ago
Usertm3172, Abraham and Jacob did not tithe out of obedience. There was no law to obey. They tithes for a different reason. Abraham tithed to Melchizedek because he was THE priest of the most high God. Jesus is priest after the order of Melchizedek. Look at my video response above to see the wonderful truth about the liberty that we have received!
cribbswh 1 month ago
Tithing is on income only, not gifts and or loans and certainly not after bills are paid. Secondly, tithing PRECEDED the Old Testament law. Abraham and Jacob both tithed out of obedience. Last time I checked both of them lived before Moses, the law giver. But you are correct in saying that the New T. believer follows the New T. But the New T. standard is always higher than the Old Testament. So my thought would be that New testament giving is in excess of 10%.
usertm3172 1 month ago
Everything we own belongs to God.Are we good stewards of it? Do we help the poor, the orphan & the widow as stated in scriptures or do we spend it selfishly on ourselves and our pleasures, saying 'we work hard, we deserve it'.The Lord let me know I was dying in my wealth & i had to remedy that by tithing properly.Consider Matt16:26 For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul? Also Mark 10:25.
ProphecySDarko 1 month ago
The fact that you were taught to tithe 10% of your student loans proves you never really had an accurate defintion of tithing or income. Student loans are debt, they do not count as income; you should have never tithed on that because it has to be paid back. Your income is what is LEFT OVER after all your basic expenses (food, clothing, utilties, rent, transportation, taxes) are paid.
I'm not against tithing, but I just can't stand the way organized religion twists it's defintion.
gsschoenfeld 1 month ago
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Cdouglas0906 1 month ago
Great video, brother!
Please consider making another with your voice. I think a lot of people are not getting the message because they want to hear the words spoken.
... though it was a nice song. :-)
BludBaut 1 month ago
Each man should give what he has decided in his heart .......God loves a cheerful giver.
Let it be = Amen
PJTHEGRAY2 1 month ago
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Tithing is NOT for New Covenant believers.
For proof, read:
"Mystery Revealed: Why Millions of Christian Tithers are Broke" on my blog.
RevolutionEraBlog 1 month ago
cool, video. i recently quit. had been a faithful tither, but like paul says, give as your are lead. i give offerings, but not tithes. the tithe is never mentioned and the tithe in old testament times was food, not cash. firstfruits=fruit. the video makes it very plain, however those that choose to remain veiled will stay that way.
catherha1 2 months ago
Great video!! So glad you are preaching the truth!!!
kerifl 2 months ago
To know about tithing and not to do it is being a fool.
Cdouglas0906 2 months ago
@Cdouglas0906 Your ignorance is probably brainwashing. Brainwashing is very hard to get delivered from. However, Jesus promised that if you would abide in the Word, then you would be truly His disciple and you would know the truth and the truth would make you free. Give it a try.
You're terribly deceived to think that we choose to not tithe because we want to keep the money. You got that brainwashing from lying preachers or your own greedy heart.
NO JEW EVER told a Gentile to tithe! EVER!
BludBaut 1 month ago
@Cdouglas0906 You ignorance of the Word is appalling. Acts 15 is about what to tell the Gentiles about the keeping the Law. Why didn't they tell the Gentiles to tithe? Why had NO PREACHER EVER BROUGHT THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION. Because they don't trust God for their provision, but they want YOUR money.
Preachers KNOW things about tithing that they have BEEN FORCED TO CONSIDER because of their time spent in the Word BUT THEY WON'T TELL YOU because of their UNBELIEF and refusal to trust God.
BludBaut 1 month ago
@BludBaut
5. Stop assuming that I made claims I didn’t. Study before debating. Again, to know about tithing and not do it, IS to be a fool.
Cdouglas0906 1 month ago
@Cdouglas0906 Boy, are you ever thick. No wonder you still believe in tithing. You're thick, stubborn, dull of hearing and you refuse to believe that you can be wrong...
Or is it that you don't think you can still learn. Whatever it is, you're too hard-headed and stubborn for me to want to waste my time. I told you what to do and that's read your Bible, but you obviously don't believe that will help you. Then it won't. Faith is the key to hearing and receiving from God.
IamaFreeWillOffering 1 month ago
@IamaFreeWillOffering Hey genius, I used the word of God to prove my point. Daft people like yourself are making claims with no backup. I did read my bible dummy, now go read your' s before arguing because then you wont make yourself look dense...like you do now. P.S- Your messages will be deleted UNREAD from now on, no matter how many times you change your name. Tithe is and will always be biblical.
Cdouglas0906 1 month ago
@IamaFreeWillOffering Are you still talking bigotry nonsense? Maybe you can't read either. DELETED UNREAD.
Cdouglas0906 1 month ago
@Cdouglas0906 This isn't a debate. You're too brainwashed to understand the differences in the Old and New Covenants. Tithing DIDN'T NEED TO BE STOPPED. (You're incredibly ignorant of the Scriptures) because it WAS ONLY COMMANDED OF THE JEWS. Duh. Christians WERE NEVER asked, told, suggested, not did ANY SCRIPTURE EVEN HINT that Christians should tithe, IF you THINK ONE DOES, read it again and find out just how brainwashed you are.
I know, I know, Don't bother you with the facts..
IamaFreeWillOffering 1 month ago
@Cdouglas0906 I suspect that your 90 years old and your brain is so frozen you can no longer learn. That you can be presented with so many facts that repudiate the lies you believe about tithing and you DON'T EVEN BOTHER TO PAY ENOUGH ATTENTION TO EXAMINE WHAT WAS SAID...
it's just mind-bogglingly STUPID.
Did you say study? LOL I don't need to study because I know this stuff. I've been reading God's Word AND HEARING HIM for almost 40 years. That's why I know you're ignorant.
IamaFreeWillOffering 1 month ago
@BludBaut
4.Because that’s NOT what the chapter was about! You have proven your ignorance. When did I ever say that I "think that we choose to not tithe because we want to keep the money?" Show me the scripture that states we no longer have to tithe. Not something that you "interpreted" but where it states it. It does specifically state, "Will a man rob God, Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.” Pretty clear. Tithe, it is YOUR responsibility.
Cdouglas0906 1 month ago
@BludBaut
3.No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are.” Then he list miracles showing that God did them without being circumcised. Instead of circumcision in verse 19 James tells them 4 things they must refrain from. In verse 24 they go back and address the issue at hand. CIRCUMCISION. Read verse 28 and 29. Why didn’t they talk about murder? Why not lying? Why didn’t they list the do’s and don’ts?
Cdouglas0906 1 month ago
@BludBaut
2.The Pharisees said that they MUST be circumcised and Barnabas told them in Acts 15:8-11 that God purifies hearts through faith, and that the Jews didn’t have to go through circumcision as adults and that it was a burden on them. “Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of the disciples a yoke that neither we nor our fathers have been able to bear?
Cdouglas0906 1 month ago
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Cdouglas0906 1 month ago
@Cdouglas0906 You don't know why this unbelief consumes the preachers but I'll tell you. Because Galatians says, "you are SEVERED FROM CHRIST, you who seek to be justified by LAW. YOU HAVE FALLEN FROM GRACE.
The devil PUTS PRESSURE ON PREACHERS that if they tell the truth that tithing is OLD COVENANT, NO ONE WILL SUPPORT YOU!
satan does this to KEEP THE CURSE ON THE CHURCH. That's the consequences of being under the Law -- a CURSE. So, because of self-preservation (UNBELIEF) the preachers LIE.
BludBaut 1 month ago
@Cdouglas0906 Yeah, I know you thought all these preachers were being faithful to God's Word, but their consciences have CONFRONTED THEM WITH THEIR LIES and they've rejected the truth and they curse the church by their idolatry and unbelief.
Don't kid yourself. The truth is in the Scriptures as plain as day. The preachers ARE LYING AND THEY KNOW IT. That's WHY they preach it so much -- they know the power of brainwashing. See -- it worked with you.
BludBaut 1 month ago
@Cdouglas0906 After becoming a Believer, I tithed off my GROSS for seven years and everything I prayed and believed for, I got, but I could not attribute ONE blessing to tithing and I started reading the Bible more carefully and found out that the preachers KNEW they were lying. That was OVER 30 years ago and I'm STILL getting the TITHING LIES WASHED OUT OF ME. Brainwashing DOESN'T LEAVE EASILY!
I said it plainly. You're brainwashed. You have a lot of Bible study in front of you. Get started.
BludBaut 1 month ago
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@BludBaut
1. Your ignorance is probably lack of knowledge. It happens don't worry. YOUR ignorance of the Word is appalling. They didn’t tell the Gentiles to tithe because that’s not what Acts 15 is about. In that chapter it states men said that unless you where circumcised, according to custom taught by Moses, they couldn’t be saved. This caused an argument so Paul and Barnabas and others went to the elders concerning THAT issue. Acts 15:2.
Cdouglas0906 1 month ago
Christ is in the order of Melchezidec, he is the one who "liveth" mentioned here. This was before Moses law was given, if you want to do business with God, then you will give Him the 10th just as Abraham did and Isaac and Jacob.
Heb 7:8 And here men that die receive tithes; but there he receiveth them, of whom it is witnessed that he liveth.
9 And as I may so say,Levi also, who receiveth tithes, payed tithes in Abraham.
10 For he was yet in the loins of his father,when Melchisedec met him.
afaithfulone4you 2 months ago
That SUNday morning collection plate passed around... look who it is really for and Notice the words "as God hath PROSPERED"
2 Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.
3 And when I come, whomsoever ye shall approve by your letters, them will I send to bring your liberality unto Jerusalem.
KJV
This is the tithe command that Paul tells us to do and all Word is inspired by God!
afaithfulone4you 2 months ago
God owns the whole earth and all that we own is really God's. He let's us USE it while we live, but He expects a portion of it to be returned unto His household for the needs of the poor and the spreading of His Word. Even Paul knew this. That SUNday morning collection plate passed around... look who it is really for.
1 Cor 16:1 Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye.
To be continued...
afaithfulone4you 2 months ago
Luke 20
22Is it lawful for us to give tribute unto Caesar, or no? 23But he perceived their craftiness, and said unto them, Why tempt ye me? 24Shew me a penny. Whose image and superscription hath it? They answered and said, Caesar's. 25And he said unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which be Caesar's, and unto God the things which be God's.
imthemandawg 2 months ago
You can still tithe if you choose, but it should not be binding. What's the condition of your heart if you tithe? If you choose to tithe it's not like you're better then those who don't. I tithe but I know that I don't have to. I tithe because I want to.
abaneyone 3 months ago
Praying for you....this is sad to watch...
ashleyr918 3 months ago
@ashleyr918 yoiu are deceive sister, many pastors abused the money in tithing, im also praying for you.
hubz2 2 months ago
Thk u
romeoisha 3 months ago
Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. Test me in this,” says the LORD Almighty, “and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that you will not have room enough for it. I will prevent pests from devouring your crops, and the vines in your fields will not cast their fruit,” says the LORD Almighty. “Then all the nations will call you blessed, for yours will be a delightful land,” says the LORD Almighty.
sk8ersynistersean 3 months ago
Thank you for sharing your experience! This is great!
MaiaCali 4 months ago
I agree with this.I almost changed my mind recently back to tithing as being not just for the Jews.A very good teaching years ago demonstrated how our taxes are tithes.(used for the poor,charity,churches tax free etc) .We should be led by the spirit.The collections should be for the poor or sick....
Act 20:35 I have shewed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive.
patientwatcher 4 months ago
So when we accept Christ we become Jews and are subject to Jewish laws and customs is that what the supporters of tithing are saying? The bottom line to tithing and the whole law is we are not Jews we are gentiles and the law was given to the Jews. Acts 15 really sums it up but I don't hear that scripture preached much.
eddie486us 4 months ago
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Study Hebrews 7 -13. It explains in detail why Jews whom accept Christ no longer tithe. Hebrews was written to the Hebrews(Jews) who were still zealous for the Mosaic Law even though Christ came to redeem them from the Law. As for us(Gentile believers), we never had the Mosaic Law and were never instructed to follow it. Study Acts 15. Please understand that even under the Mosaic Law NO ONE was commanded to tithe MONEY! Please study before you respond. GOD Bless!!!
oneeye9426 4 months ago
Good job onethingsailing, sounds like the LORD really got ur atttention, ur awesome and keep ur eyes on Jesus:)
SuperHarvell 4 months ago
There are normal expenses and then there are "devourer" expenses. Normal expenses are things we must all pay like rent, mortgages, food, car expenses, utilities and taxes. "Devourer" expenses in our modern urban world are things like accidents, injuries, scams, sicknesses that rob our wealth, and things that are lost stolen or breakdown before their time. If we tithe God promises to protect us from these "devourer" expenses. Tithing is way less than paying the "devourer"
CraigGraham 4 months ago
If don't have the money to pay the tithe pray and ask the Father to blessed your hands to pay the tithe. Father have mercy on me for I have robbed you in tithes and offering please bless my hands to pay you the tithe in the name of Jesus Christ, then wait on him patiently and he will honor your prayer. Amen
sprinkle888 4 months ago
Well your quite correct you do not need to tithe as it is now under the law. However it remains a clear guide as to what is acceptable. Also remember don't muzzle the ox and in humility respect the men God places in authority. If you feel their spirit is in any way evil leave quickly so as not to receive that curse on your family .Any act of trying to 'teach' the teacher will be spiritual rebellion.
2105Jack 5 months ago
Awesome vid. I found the same thing over time. I find it interesting how some legalistically hold to tithing, which is from the law of Moses, in hopes of claiming a financial blessing but somehow at the same time consider God's moral law (ten commandments) to be null and void or nailed to the cross. Not trying to offend anybody but I'm just saying...
TheLivingSacrifices 5 months ago
I am free... Jesus set me free...I'M NOT BOUND ANY LONGER TO THE WRITTEN LAW...BUT STILL I TITHES BECAUSE EVEN BEFORE THE LAW WAS WRITTEN ABRAHAM GIVE HIS TITHES...AND THIS FAITH WILL I FOLLOW..
THE FATHER OF MY FAITH !
foreversheneil 5 months ago
@foreversheneil Abraham from what I recall only did it ONCE and he did it after a war. So go to war get some spoils and only give once in your lifetime if you want to follow his example. If you are giving your ten percent every time you get paid than you are not following his example. Read your bible again and be truly free.
notleftbehind 5 months ago
@notleftbehind ....well said, it seems like you're always looking at the bible literally...
...maybe you've already read the whole bible...sometimes you always say it's not in the bible...
well, this is my question..could please answer this...please !!!
...GIVE ME A VERSE THAT SAYS " DON'T TITHE".. and that's it, i will not tithe and you won this issue..!
..just give me a verse...
foreversheneil 5 months ago
@foreversheneil ill give it to you after you find me a verse where Jesus and his disciples tithe. If you want you can read the whole new testament and show me so that would include Paul and everyone else after him who established the church doctrine. Good luck in your hunting. Im assuming this will be the last time you reply, so cheers my friend.
notleftbehind 5 months ago
@notleftbehind ...it seems like you can't provide me a single verse that says "don't tithe",... you are false teacher who are trying to deceive the true believers of Christ....!!!! By the way your answer is like a sound of roaring lion...
a devil's tactics, like what he done in the garden of eden, that's why eve is being deceived...
foreversheneil 4 months ago
@foreversheneil It seems like you cant give me a verse that says you have to for believers in the new testament. It seems you cant find me a verse where Jesus tithe or where the apostles tithe. It seems you cant give me a verse where its instructed for the church to do it. If you can't give me a verse I guess that makes you a false teacher and like a devil who roars with his tactics.
notleftbehind 4 months ago
@foreversheneil It was never the question whether the bible says to tithe or not to tithe. Understand what the discussion was because it was about whether tithes apply to the new believer. DONT manipulate or TWIST the discussion cause it seems you are the one operation in the devils tactics. So now that i hope you get it ill ask you again. Find me a verse that says yes to tithing for the church. Find me a verse that the apostles who build the church and its doctrines say to tithe.
notleftbehind 4 months ago
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..i will not go any further just answer this simple question, and that's it.
don't go somewhere just answer this...
my friend,your answer be done unto you !
WHO WILL I FOLLOW?
...all of you guys that saying to stop tithing or Jesus Himself that says,"You ought to tithe but without forgetting about those more important matters."(Mat 23:23)
foreversheneil 5 months ago
@foreversheneil Learn what the bible teaches n not what they tell you it says. Dont be lazy and study! That passage they were still in the law of Moses. You are not a Jew nor are we in the law Moses. Dude are you that brain washed. LOL even the verse you put proves the point we make. where in that verse does it say they tithe (MONEY). Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cumin. Im still waiting for the bible verses cmon?
notleftbehind 4 months ago
@notleftbehind
Yes, you are right about the tithe, but if I may (please understand where im coming from), you contradict yourself in correcting and then proceed to insults.
"Learn what the bible teaches n not what they tell you it says. Dont be lazy and study!" This would be best served kept in ones own heart, it is good advice, but not in a condescending way towards others who may not know as much as you.
TheBrianisneat 3 months ago
@notleftbehind
1 Corinthians 13:1, "If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but do not have love, I have become a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal."
Sadly, almost your entire response is geared to insulting the poster and proving yourself right and knowledgeable.
TheBrianisneat 3 months ago
@notleftbehind 1 Corinthians 13
Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud.
It is not rude,
it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres...
Again, I hope you do not take offense to my posts. It was never my intent to offend, but like you, to try and bring the Truth to the discussion.
TheBrianisneat 3 months ago
@TheBrianisneat I was never talking to you I was talking to forevershenell. I know what i do and how i do it and if i have to sound offensive so someone can get the truth than I dont mind. There is a time for everything there is a time to be nice or mean to kill to live to cry to laugh its not always about being mushy and lovely. Grow up and stop being so soft and touchy.
notleftbehind 3 months ago
@notleftbehind
So what im understanding, from all that you have written, is that you want to take all the scripture that supports the way you feel at any given moment to make your argument "right". Then at the same time disregard any scripture that is contrary to what your doing.......You must watch Televangelists, SO true to form......so true to form.
TheBrianisneat 3 months ago
@TheBrianisneatFrom all that I have written? I was talking about tithe. So pile up all the verses you can find on tithe i would be glad to prove Gods word with Gods word. Actually televangelists are the ones who promote giving and Im going against what they preach on so what you are saying doesnt even make any sense.
notleftbehind 3 months ago
@onethingsailing well said ! Jews are Israelites and as a christian i count my self as a spiritual israelite..(and i dont think you are). most of the promise of God is for the Jews..for His people...for the descendants of Jacob the Israelites... there's so many promises of God in Old Testaments and i'm happy because as a gentile and as a spiritual israelite,i'm covered with those promises.. one of the promises i claimed is Jer.29:11...(so you are not covered with these bcoz u r not a Jew)
foreversheneil 5 months ago
@foreversheneil What the heck is a spiritual Israelite that term is no where in the bible. A gentile is a gentile and a Jew is a Jew. Both can be saved under Jesus but both dont mix.
notleftbehind 5 months ago
@notleftbehind But scripture does say the gentile believer is grafted in. (Rom 11)
2105Jack 5 months ago
@2105Jack being grafted and making it sound like you have replaced the Jews in some spiritual sense are two different things. Just to let you know that is called replacement theology so you need to be careful who you are listening to and who is teaching you the bible. If its your pastor i would consider finding a church where they teach the bible as it is written. Or do your own research,study and you will see the difference.
notleftbehind 5 months ago
@notleftbehind There is no replacement. Grafted in means just that. The tree exists and we are grafted in to that tree.
2105Jack 5 months ago
@2105Jack if you are obedient
Mothermackree51 5 months ago
@Mothermackree51 Correct!
2105Jack 5 months ago
@notleftbehind the jews are not going to make it in since they are the seed of esau and the most high hate the jews who came out of the caucasus mountains and converted to Judaism. the people spoken of in the bible is hebrews who are black people since jews are imposters they are not included in the tribe of Yacobs children he had 12 sons and Yahuda was one of the sons where the linage of the Messiah came through. but remember their were 11 other sons and a daughter
Mothermackree51 5 months ago
@notleftbehind What the heck is YOUR FAITH THAT SAYING STOP TITHING that term is no where in the bible.
...JUST GIVE A VERSE.... SAYING "DO NOT TITHE" and i will believe that you are right and not false teacher !!!
foreversheneil 5 months ago
@foreversheneil Study Hebrews 7 -13. It explains in detail why Jews whom accept Christ no longer tithe. Hebrews was written to the Hebrews(Jews) who were still zealous for the Mosaic Law even though Christ came to redeem them from the Law. As for us(Gentile believers), we never had the Mosaic Law and were never instructed to follow it. Study Acts 15. Please understand that even under the Mosaic Law NO ONE was commanded to tithe MONEY! Please study before you respond. GOD Bless!!!
oneeye9426 4 months ago
@foreversheneil No such thing as a spiritual Israelite stop making up terms and things that are not in the bible.
notleftbehind 5 months ago
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@notleftbehind .... No such thing as a " DO NOT TITHE " stop making up terms and things that are not in the bible..
foreversheneil 4 months ago
@dante1613
@barrientos211
@rossdaboss1959
@looking351
@MamasitaDeVegas
@dante1613
what is much better in the sight of the Lord, to give or not to give?
giving tithes will not save anyone...neither will bring you to heaven...only by accepting Jesus as our Lord and Savior will saved us.But still I give my tithes because I want to honor Him and give thanks to all what He have done to me. like Abraham did,(the father of my faith,not yours) though there's no law about tithes,he tithes.
foreversheneil 5 months ago
@dante1613
@barrientos211
@rossdaboss1959
@looking351
@MamasitaDeVegas
i'm not a pastor, i'm just a simple and ordinary born again christian.
some self-proclaimed christians don't give their tithes bcoz they always say and think that churches ..the pastors will only use these for their personal interest,it is true that some churches and pastors are doing these bad things, and God knows them.God will surely punish them, but bear in mind,Jesus never opposed tithing, he affirmed it to do so.
foreversheneil 5 months ago
WHO WILL I FOLLOW?
@dante1613
@barrientos211
@rossdaboss1959
@looking351
@MamasitaDeVegas
...all of you guys that saying to stop tithing or Jesus Himself that says,"You ought to tithe but without forgetting about those more important matters."(Mat 23:23)
foreversheneil 5 months ago
@foreversheneil he was talking to Jews under the law
onethingsailing 5 months ago
@onethingsailing he was talking about the Hebrew Israelites the tribe of Yahuda since there is no j in the Hebrew language it couldn't be jewish. Hebrews are black people not christians the most high did not give religion but the commandments which are 613 laws to live by which he reached in and took the ten that over lapped and interlocked the other 603. Moshe came from mt sinai with the commandments the first 5 books of the bible not religion and not christianity (paganism) Moshe a black man.
Mothermackree51 5 months ago
@onethingsailing
orastreet 4 months ago
@onethingsailing Matt 23:23 - Look at what the Pharisees were tithing - Money? NO! Mint from their garden.
orastreet 4 months ago
@onethingsailing Your statement is somewhat misleading. When a person is under the law they are being disobedient to the instructions of the Most High. Please read Galatians 3:23-25 and I Timothy 1:8-11. Of course, if a person believes they could be justified by keeping the law is truely being mislead and without understanding (Galatians 3:10-11). A person is cursed for being disobedient especially without repentance (Deuteronomy 28:15-19).
Thebibleconsultant 1 month ago
@foreversheneil he was speaking to jews who were under the law. he still wants us to follow the law of the Spirit and love.
yaykindie 4 months ago
@foreversheneil Your understanding of the scriptures falls short. Jesus was speaking to the religious Jewish Leaders. Are you Hebrew born? If you read this scripture closely you will notice the tithe is in the form of food. Money was never to be used for the tithe.
44yavet 3 months ago
@foreversheneil "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the LAW: justice and mercy and faith."
Jesus confirms that tithing was required under the LAW. He doesn't mention money, only agriculture, as this was what the law required. The Pharisees were so pedantic about tithing that they counted the leaves in their little herb gardens. But, they missed the whole point: justice and mercy and faith.
MichaelCsikos 3 months ago
@foreversheneil Jesus DIDN'T tithe by the way as he was a carpenter and didn't own any land and the poor were not required to tithe. There is a difference between the old covenant law and the new testament grace. We are now justified through faith in Christ and live by grace. We are not required to practise the law and when we do there are consequences to our Christian walk. Gal 3:10-13. We are suppose to give as the Holy Spirits leads not out of necessity. 2 Cor 9:7
narrowayer 2 months ago
@foreversheneil Your problems are that you don't understand "rightly dividing the word of truth" nor do you understand the difference between the Old and New Covenants and lastly and equally important, you swallow the lies of lying preachers who would know better if they had listened to their consciences instead of their greed.
BludBaut 1 month ago
i'm not a pastor, i'm just a simple and ordinary born again christian.
some self-proclaimed christians don't give their tithes bcoz they always say and think that churches ..the pastors will only use these for their personal interest,it is true that some churches and pastors are doing these bad things, and God knows them.God will surely punish them, but bear in mind,Jesus never opposed tithing, he affirmed it to do so.
foreversheneil 5 months ago
@dante1613
barrientos211
rossdaboss1959
looking351
MamasitaDeVegas
.... my question is this?
what is much better in the sight of the Lord, to give or not to give?
giving tithes will not save anyone...neither will bring you to heaven...only by accepting Jesus as our Lord and Savior will saved us.But still I give my tithes because I want to honor Him and give thanks to all what He have done to me. like Abraham did,(the father of my faith,not yours) though there's no law about tithes,he tithes.
foreversheneil 5 months ago
this is a huge dose of reality on this subject, one that money grubbing false churches like the MORmONey church/LDS Inc, wont like. Jesus hates those kind of operations. you are entirely correct as well, much to their chagrin! Good Job !
carkunkula 5 months ago
Wonderful way of explaining this what i believe to be deception to put the Lord children under bondage, some KNOW its not biblical and others are just blind to the truth. blessings--AND also I believe in giving definantly but as the Spirit leads us.
oceaneyess67 6 months ago
The Lord has given us Everything we have. Who do we think we are to not give back a measly 10%. It's ingratitude.
Kelsey5665A 6 months ago
I stopped tithing when I had a vision of me grasping air ... I heard clearly that the air represented my money. I believe, 100 percent, that tithing brings on curses. I went from a surplus before tithing to a major deficit while tithing. I no longer give a damn penny to the so-called church. BTW, I do not attend church. I help those in need: the sick, the widow, the homeless, the addict, single mothers ...
ImDemanding 6 months ago
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Ravenous11yt 6 months ago
This is a lie from the devil, to keep God's people from being blessed. "The tithe is the Lord's" and if you take that to buy a new wig. You are a robber and stealing from God. May God have mercy on you for leading His people astray!
christopherkozoriz 6 months ago
@christopherkozoriz YOU JUST HAPPEN TO BE ONE OF THOSE GULLIBLE PEOPLE WHO WOULD BELIEVE A LIE.
DSkeptic86 6 months ago
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@christopherkozoriz Tithing can be a curse for some of Gods peoplle? I say this to you who say "You are a robber and stealing from God." who do you think you are and how dare you judge me! Remember what the Apostle Paul said, remember that from the very point that you judge your brother, there will you be judged! You people stop judging your brother, dont you think that maybe as a fellow child of God he may already know what he must do? stop judging
TheRanhyn 6 months ago
I do, always have, always will.
mslittlegalpaps 6 months ago
Correct tithes were never money, but it does take money to get things done. If I pay my tithes, and the evangelist, pastor etc, does'nt do what they are supposed to do. God will take care of them, I have no reason to worry, and God will take care of me for obedience.
mslittlegalpaps 6 months ago
@mslittlegalpaps Deuteronomy 14:28
“At the end of every third year you shall bring out all the tithe of your produce in that year, and shall deposit it in your town.”
Deuteronomy 14:29
“The Levite, because he has no portion or inheritance among you, and the alien, the orphan and the widow who are in your town, shall come and eat and be satisfied, in order that the LORD your God may bless you in all the work of your hand which you do.”
You are supposed to tithe Widows, orphans and aliens too
TithingStudy 6 months ago
yes, I do understand that's all they had. God knows the treasure to our hearts is our money. If you belong to a church that needs repairs food will not help, if a widow or widower comes to the church for assitance food will not do it. I understand that may be some one has stolen from you or took advantage of in the church dealing with money. I stand on Gods word and what he has blessed me with. God bless and keep you.
mslittlegalpaps 6 months ago
@mslittlegalpaps I agree, we should give money to support the work of the Lord and to the poor and needy. The only point is that tithes were NEVER MONEY! Just because someone understands that New Covenant believers paying a certain percentage is not scriptural does not mean that they are against giving. Quite the contrary. We should give cheerfully as we purpose in our hearts. Not grudgingly or of necessity as the false doctrine of tithing is being preached today. GOD Bless!!!
oneeye9426 6 months ago
@mslittlegalpaps Tithes were not MONEY!!! Study Hebrews Chapters 7 - 13. It explains why we no longer follow the Old Covenant ceremonial laws which included tithes from the land, (fruits, vegetables,& grains), as well as tithes from the flocks,(bulls, goats, rams, etc.) NEVER MONEY! Hebrews was written to the Jews who converted to Christianity but were still following Old Covenant laws. Also, please understand that Gentile converts to Christianity were never instructed to follow Old Covenant law
oneeye9426 6 months ago
These scriptures have nothing to do with the New Testament church. God is speaking to Jewish Priest under a covenant God had with Israel. Also, under that covenant only food items were tithed.
nomadak47 6 months ago
no one can force you to stop tithing or persuade you. read malichi 3and 11. we must practice being obedient to Gods work. Stop worrying what the others do, God will jude them. We must strive to be obedient to Gods word. I know that i'm where I am today because of Gods blessing me, being obedient to his word. I pray you will read and let God use you.
mslittlegalpaps 6 months ago
@mslittlegalpaps
These scriptures have nothing to do with the New Testament church. God is speaking to Jewish Priest under a covenant God had with Israel. Also, under that covenant only food items were tithed.
nomadak47 6 months ago
Giving DOES NOT equal tithing. And not all giving has to be to the "church". Wake up people and stop being exploited by false prophets who are more materialistic than the world. "Churches" need to live within their means just like their members. And shame on any so-called church that will not help a member in time of need! Talk about unbiblical!
Virgetta1 6 months ago
...i'm wondering why there is a lot of people saying ... Lord i will follow you ..i will serve you.. i will give my heart to you... my soul... my strength... even my life...but not my tithes... not my 10% income...,so ridiculous....you deceived yourself,
..how can you say that you can give to God everything but you fail to give your tithes...it's love of money that is in you
God does not need your money!
I give my tithes not because of the law but because I love Him..
...see what abraham did..
foreversheneil 7 months ago
@forevershenei so jesus died for nothing? jesus died to free us from sin and the law, if u try to obey the law to please God then u make jesus crucified in vain as the bible says, if we follow the holy spirit then we will be holy but if the spirit doesnt make us want to tithe then we are not obligated too, you preach the law, so u preach against freedom in jesus, if u say people have to do something other than have faith and obey christ then u preach wrong doctrine, jesus never said to tithe
dante1613 7 months ago
@foreversheneil .. But God look unto your FAITH... what is Law ,??? Love .. what is LOVE ? love your neighbor and Love your God.. if you remain in him Just obey it is our proved that we love God.. We need to put into Work our FAith ,,and Obey what He said ... Just read and ask your TRUE brothers and SisTErs in Christ .. to those who really know the Bible...God bless you ..
barrientos211 6 months ago
@foreversheneil It's all about the truth. Tithing was not given to the church. Yes it's nothing wrong with giving to the church freely from the heart. But when man use a piece of the old law to gain money, it's wrong. If u going to keep the law, u have to keep all of it. I stopped paying tithes over 30 years ago, n i'm bless. God even blessed me to retire at 48, house etc. I give, to people starving all over the world every month, even to church, but freely. U can't buy your way to heaven.
rossdaboss1959 6 months ago
@foreversheneil Yes, i love the Lord too. That's why i trust him. U don't have to do everything a preacher tells u if it's against the word of God. U have to check what he says with the Bible. That's why many are being deceived today thinking they are saved n are not, because they just believe whatever the preacher says. Acts 2;38 is God's only plan of salvation for us today for everybody. Man try to changed that too. God bless!
rossdaboss1959 6 months ago
@foreversheneil I understand where u coming from, but a lie can never to the truth, n the truth can never be a lie. God won't even go along with a lie. Why can't man tell the truth n trust God with freely giving? If God called them to have a church building, he will take care of them n the building. There's no need to lie. God can't put on people minds to give freely to support ? Why should God if the preacher is lying to get money? It's all about trusting in God, preachers too.
rossdaboss1959 6 months ago
@foreversheneil so you give 30%?/?/........
looking351 5 months ago
@foreversheneil Tithing is not God's command; it is mans. You are the one deceived. You give tithes to GET money back in financial blessing. None of this is in scripture. Read your bible. God wants our obedience & love. God doesn't spend your tithe. Your pastor does. You give your tithe to be in good standing with your pastor not god. People make pastors their idols & do whatever they say "blindly." You are an idol worshipper. This isn't about your love for God. You want "the money blessing."
MamasitaDeVegas 5 months ago
@foreversheneil Umm if you are going to serve God and worship God than he says to do it in spirit and truth hmm big word there ( truth ) Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses and catholics call themselves Christians and many do love God but are they serving God in truth? Is not a matter for some if we love money or dont want to give but its a matter of living in truth and not being brainwashed like the majority of people.
notleftbehind 5 months ago
@foreversheneil do you keep the Sabbath day? Why not give God one day out of seven?? You're going to give God everything, including tithe, but not His Sabbath??
See how similar that sounds?
Its abolished, meaning, people dont HAVE to.... its up to them...
trinislobo 5 months ago
The word speaks for itself! GREAT JOB!!! the only people who would dislike this is those who don't read their bibles and take their pastor's word for everythng. Study to show thyself approved!!!!!!
icreatevalue 7 months ago 3
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Matt: 5:17,18 NIV
Do not think I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them . I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear ,not the smallest letter,not the last stroke of a pen,will by any means disappear from the law until everything is accomplished.
abdietrich12 7 months ago
Great video.. Love the sheep
joshuatrinity 7 months ago
God showed me the verse about the cheerful giver, you can not reconcile a strict 10% with "give only what he wants" and "not out of compulsion"
Each of you must give what you have decided in your heart, not with regret or under compulsion, since God loves a cheerful giver.
GOD'S WORD
Each of you should give whatever you have decided. You shouldn't be sorry that you gave or feel forced to give, since God loves a cheerful giver.
catshazam 7 months ago
Amen Brother. You set me free. I had great difficulty with ththing because the Holy Spirit in me wanted me to give cheerfully to the poorand help the family that is in need; but the Holy Spirit was not telling me to tithe to my Roman Catholic Church. Pastors after pastors on youtube saying how you are going to Hell if you don't tithe, I found such assertion very strange.
You my Brother, you speak the truth.
God bless you.
mspsys 7 months ago
No Tithing for Christians. At no time were first-century Christians commanded to pay tithes. The primary purpose of the tithing arrangement under the Law had been to support Israel’s temple and priesthood; consequently the obligation to pay tithes would cease when that Mosaic Law covenant came to an end as fulfilled, through Christ’s death on the torture stake. (Eph 2:15; Col 2:13, 14
violetvwatson 7 months ago
My brother I went through the exact same thing... God has set me free also!
aviator408 7 months ago
SWeet!
Vantsims 7 months ago
FUTHERMORE, even though the NT doesn't teach on Tithing, it speaks extensively on the believers giving to the church for reasons of supporting the poor. Galatians also speaks about supporting the ministry, which is what tithes are also meant to do. Even though the tithes we use is a little extra-biblical, the concept still stands.
joentheamouni3 7 months ago
Tithes also keep the church running, and the pastor out of the street. Maybe not for ALL churches, but a good number of them. Tithing doesn't just have spiritual purposes, but practical purposes that are necessary. That being said, Tithing isn't legalistic, it's not just a way to get people to give them money, it's also a way to teach a congregation the concept of giving. I'm very sorry, but I'm very, very sure that God would not tell a believer to stop giving.
joentheamouni3 7 months ago
Someone doesn't understand the point of tithing. Typical. But seriously, if you consider tithing to be a burden, or "legalistic" don't do it... Just remember who gave you the 100% to begin with.
joentheamouni3 7 months ago 2
@joentheamouni3 I find your remark extremely offensive because you use the word "tithing." Supporting the poor? 0.18% sounds like supporting the poor to you? That's how much average church gives out to the poor.
I don't see why I need to give money to Benny Hinn so that he can fly around in his private jet and staying at a hotel that costs $10,000/ night.
Then again, why even bother? My God, who speaks to me daily, doesn't even know who you are.
mspsys 7 months ago
Notice the words but and until in Matthew 5:17 & 18 not Matthew 15:7 but 5:17 & 18
Jesus fuflilled the law for us! PAID IN FULL meansL IT IS FINISHED
NotFlaking 7 months ago
@NotFlaking And yet there is still a debt to be paid in the minds of Christian retards. According to them babies are born evil. This debt was paid for by imaginary Jesus for the sins of two imaginary people in a magic garden. If the bible said 2 + 2 = 5 then brainwashed retards like you would believe it. The bible has no basis in reality. It was written for power and control over stupid people like you. I'd say think about it but I don't think this is possible.
bigboy45454545 7 months ago
On of the must ignored bible verses in the New Testament
Romans 10:4 Christ is the end of the law for righteousness for every believer.
When you quote Matthew 15:17 & 18 that not one jot would pass away from the law Please note that two keys words BUT and Until. I believe they are continuation words!
NotFlaking 7 months ago
If you tithe, you must also believe in circumcision, still practice ritual sacrifice of unblemished animals, keep all the festvals like passover, wear sackcloth and ashes etc. Do we really need the old covenant?- NO.
Roman 8:2 says we are free from the law of sin and death.
WTU208 7 months ago
Excellent video. Thanks for sharing.
It's about time we stopped thinking about money, which is where all the preachers are focussing these days, & get back to what the gospel of Jesus is all about. Salvation.
MustaffaCuppa 7 months ago
Glory to God!!! I'm free from the bondage of men!!!!
sweetsongbirdshay83 8 months ago
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I have one word for this video and the one that made it..WRONG!!!
darightbrotha 8 months ago
If you tith on a loan, there is a phrase that fits you. A Fool and his money will soon part ! You don't tith on loans !
You said the Old Laws of Religion are not good now days. You are wrong. Jesus said I come to not change one tittle of the law at all. i come to bring salvation.
now you said during the old Church no one give money. So the fellow who dropped dead for ling of money give to the Group of Jesus. OR the old lady who give 2 pence & Jesus said she give more than any !
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turtle4aire 8 months ago
@turtle4aire the 10 % that is suppose to be give is a Suggestion and not set in stone & give to people when they ask how much ! To be real here Everything belongs to the Lord and your just taking care of it till he returns.
Now you need to get out of the Prosparity Gospels Churches. They put Tithing above all and even above salvation. They will tell you, you are going to hell if you don't tith ! Creflo Dollar, T.D. Jakes, Eddie Long, and Benny Hinn are a bunch of crooks to say the least !
turtle4aire 8 months ago
Excellent Video! I use to be one of those Christians who only went to church and did not read my bible. Once I really got on the word of God I found out the truth about tithing. They say if you don't tithe that you are "cursed with a cursed", but Jesus came and delivered us from the curse of the law. I am glad more and more Christians are finding out the truth. Give but not out of pressure, not because it's the law, but because you have been lead by the spirit and give cheerfully.
icreatevalue 8 months ago
This cannot be a serious video or message! Tithing began BEFORE the law, required DURING the law and instituted AFTER the law! Matthew 23:23! So I guess the ones who yell we are not under the law, run around lying, fornicating, idol worshipping, coveting, etc... and everything else that was given to us "under the law" including the 10 Commandments!!!
Jenira0524 8 months ago
You should not have tithed on your student loans. They are a loan and not income.
CraigGraham 8 months ago 4
@CraigGraham i was into tithing, church told me tither or go to hell basically.
onethingsailing 5 months ago
@onethingsailing You won't go to hell for not tithing but it does leave the door open for the devil to rip you off. The devil rips people off by sicknesses and injuries which always cost a lot of money for treatment. The devil rips people off by things getting lost or stolen or breaking down long before they are supposed to. The devil rips you off by scaming you of getting you to make bad financial decisions.
CraigGraham 4 months ago
@CraigGraham Only God can decide if one goes to hell for not paying tithes isn't it written all liars and thieves will have their part in the lake of fire, unless they repent. Why not pay the tithe if you have the money the Lord has blessed you with the finances and you spend it on technology, cars, houses, clothes, video games, alcohol, drugs, movies, plays, concerts and cable tv and more. I agree with all these resources can be taken away by what the bible cause.
sprinkle888 4 months ago
@CraigGraham Continue- What the bible cause "Devour" The Lord said 'bring me all the tithe where there will meat in my house (meat is the word) and (PROVE ME) and see want I open the windows of heaven and pour you out a blessing you will not have enough" "Then I will rebuke the devourer for you, so that it will not destroy the fruits of the ground; nor will your vine in the field cast its grapes," says the LORD of hosts." Sounds like paying the tithe will keep blessing flowing in your life.
sprinkle888 4 months ago
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@CraigGraham Study Hebrews 7 -13. It explains in detail why Jews whom accept Christ no longer tithe. Hebrews was written to the Hebrews(Jews) who were still zealous for the Mosaic Law even though Christ came to redeem them from the Law. As for us(Gentile believers), we never had the Mosaic Law and were never instructed to follow it. Study Acts 15. Please understand that even under the Mosaic Law NO ONE was commanded to tithe MONEY! Please study before you respond. GOD Bless!!!
oneeye9426 4 months ago
Awesome!!!
jmclean123 8 months ago
Yes we're redeemed from the curse of the law but we tithe with a joyful heart not out of legality that's why you aren't blessed. Because you tithed out of fear of the law not the love of your heart. which without that your lost anyway so examine your heart and quit leading others astray because you lack a giving out of love relationship with the Lord.
reddog397 8 months ago
Thanks for your video,realy good.Just recently i have become a non tither.I had tithed for 26 years.Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law....................Galatians 3:13.Tuesday 31-5-2011.
111michael11 8 months ago
Dhorrock said the maker of this Video should not be taken seriously if he thinks student loans is a source of income. I had to chuckle because he knows nothing about what the Tithe Pharisees say in some Legalist churches that even welfare money is income and student loans included. I have heard them say any and every dollar is increase no matter what source!
NotFlaking 9 months ago
Acts 13:39 Through him everyone who believes is freed from all things by which you could not be freed from by the law of Moses. I have been typing too fast and doing several things at the same time which means I have made some typo's.Thank God I don't have to be perfect, JESUS is perfect for me.
NotFlaking 9 months ago
For the maker of this Video. I am praying that God continues to use you and protect you from the enemy who may not like you coming against his sacred cow the tithe lie. I appreciate you for being so obedient and bold as to address the lie that binds so many people in fear of never paying enough or never doing enough. Plus you made it clear you are still a giver and I can discern you really really love the Lord.
NotFlaking 9 months ago
Precious one of the Lord Onethingsailing thank you for going against the deception of having to pay God for his free blessings. It took a whole lot of courage to go the lie that binds. We have been set free to freely give, not by fear of a threats of the law before the cross .
John 1:16 "For out of his bounty we were all given grace upon grace (one blessing after another is what another bible translations said)
John 1:17 The law was given to Moses but Grace and truth come from Jesus Christ.
NotFlaking 9 months ago
Regarding Abraham's blessing in Genesis 15:12 He was in a deep sleep when in verse 17 God performed the Covenant ritual ceremony. The symbol of God was the burning lamp and torch that passed between the cut animals. Abraham did not get the blessings by his works. It was by his faith and he was asleep because God was sending a message that it was a covenant by the grace, unmerited favor of God alone.
NotFlaking 9 months ago
A good tip. Get a study bible and read the notes in the bible and commentary it will really help. Look up the verses mentioned on here and the notes besides them. The final word is Jesus!
NotFlaking 9 months ago
Hebrew 8:6 But now he (Jesus) has obtained a more excellent ministry by how much more he is the Mediator of a BETTER covenant which was established upon BETTER promises.
It is called the New Covenant of Grace Beloved Comprehend?
NotFlaking 9 months ago
l was done but was emailed and decided to post these bible verses. Someone who has an hear to hear can understand the Law vs Grace, The Age of Grace under the New Covenant vs Old Covenant of law and works. The strong hold of this day is tithing in Paul's day it was circumcision same stronghold to diminish grace and the cross different label but this time it comes with a price tag.
Jesus paid in full for free 4 your daily grace, period!
NotFlaking 9 months ago