Christopher Columbus, genoese, italian

[draziom902]

VIVA ITALIA!!!

[Reazzurro90]

@EnlightenedShqiptar

False. The Greeks were always a minority in Southern Italy. They intermarried with the Italic population. Greeks never constituted a majority in the South.

[danielrodriguezmera]

OMFG! you are so fucking ignorant! CHISTOPHER COLOMBUS did NOT dicovered america!  AMERIGO VESPUCCI DID!!!

[degesai12]

@danielrodriguezmera you're right, but the point is the same: he's italian too!

[danielrodriguezmera]

alright you little dummy! no body is 100% sure if he was italian or Spaniard! OK

and IF he was born in italia, he just born there and thats it! italy does not has to be to all he did! i mean he worked for SPAIN and right now christopher colombus is in MY country ''The Dominican Republic'' (Hispaniola, back then) he LOVED my country and now he's there! italy didnt even wanted him! and is not 100% he was italian! i believe he was 100% spaniard! and colombus in spanish is COLON. (SPANIARD)

[danielrodriguezmera]

christopher colombus LOVED my country ''The Dominican Republic'' well, in that time was the ''Hispaniola'' and his bones are there in santo domingo, dominican republic, because before he died he told his family and spanish queen that when he died he wanted to rest in Hispaniola (THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC) im so proud. R.I.P CC

[Reazzurro90]

@AfroSchmuck

I know right? They're both wonderful countries with good histories, why bother stealing other people's figures?

[damASCADO]

Your information is not correct in the videos. You know nothing about Cristóbal Colón (the real name) not Colombo. YOU don't know why he could not write in Genoese? Simple. Because he was never genoese!

[equitemcroce]

now these new crackpots theories are trying to say he was polish? didn't that Rosa guy also say he was portughese? which one was it then?

What are you going to do...everybody is dying to be Italian.

[PTlusitano]

Columbus was Portuguese. Real name was Salvador Fernandes Zarco

Look the names he gave to the new lands.

- S. Salvador - His own name was Salvador

-Santa Maria da Conceição – Monastery name in Beja (Alentejo) built by his father D. Fernando, Count of Beja.

-Fernandina – In memory of his father D. Fernando.

-Isabela – In memory of his mother Isabel Zarco –Son of Portuguese navigator João Gonçalves Zarco who discovered Madeira.

[PTlusitano]

@-Juana (Cuba) – In memory of king D. João II de Portugal, for whom he was an agent. Later to not atract attention changed for Cuba (Alentejo) homeland of Salvador Fernandes Zarco.

Learned to navigate with the Portugueses.

He had family in Portugal. His brother lived in Portugal and married an Portuguese noble. He also married an noble from Madeira wich was impossible for a poor foreigner to do and also difficult for a noble with no connections on the island.

[PTlusitano]

When he came from his first voyage he set sail at Lisbon where he spent an week. He mets with the Portuguese King and just then goes to Spain.

His letter written in Spanish have many Portuguese words.

There are more evidences but this ones are very strong.

If you think these facts are false say why they are false. If you consider them true tell why you believe in coincidences.

[lar5220]

@IllicitTU My family is from. genova Italy the dialect they speak there is more like spainish purtigese there was no Italian language at that time in Italy every town city had there own language and only priests and noble new how to read and write back then so he would be writing the language of what ever language he learn from who ever schooled him would not be his own dialect most likely spainish were he spent most of his time would be the langruge he would of learned

[1947studebaker1]

Forgive this for being a bit off topic: Just about the most ignorant thing I ever heard was uttered by my (Filipino) history teacher. He said that history "whitened" Columbus, which was hard to do since he was Italian! I wondered if he knew that (according to son, Diego) Colombo had reddish-blonde hair (in his youth), blue eyes, and a ruddy complexion. Such ignorance and blindness in general!

[panter82]

@illicitTU: I tell yo why colombo was writing in spanish! Italy was not a country until the 19th century and most of the population was speaking slangs and other european languages, namely french and spanish...italian (tuscan dialect) was spoken among artists and the italian elite..most of the italians (i.e. Da Vinci, casanova, Colombo, galileo) were writing in other languagges)..

cheers

[MORCOPOLO0817]

The reason that you don't find any writings in Italian from Columbus is because he was essentially illiterate until his adult life which was lived abroad in countries like Portugal and Spain. During his time the Portuguese were leading the world in navigation and he learned most of his advanced seamanship from the Portuguese. He even married a Portuguese woman and is buried in Portugal.

[andregeo13]

@MORCOPOLO0817 and he was portuguese... just pick a map of the Americas where he arrived and compare the name of the places that he named with southern Portugal... You will find the same names...

[saverioborghese]

The philological studies on Complubus' castilian show Spanish just wasn't his native language. He was not a native Spanish speaker. Philology is science and not propaganda. Besides Columbus was able to write in standard Italian as I explain in my videos.

[OurEurope]

At the statistics of 1861 -year of the proclamation of the Kingdom of Italy- just the 6% of the citzens could write in Italian and a quite bigger percentage (13%) could understand "Italian". You imagine that Alessandro Manzoni (that wrote a master-piece of italian litterature) till in the 1827 used to write first in his local language (Lombardic) then applied to translate it into italian, and this happened in the XIX century...you imagine for Columbus many centuries before!

[Matos616]

Why columbus was portuguese?

He discovered CUBA; The only place in the world that has that name is in Portugal. Besides the country. He worked as a secret agent for D. João II to persuade the spanish crown that they could find the indies by going west. Wcih was impossible. The portuguese crown didn't want the spanish to interfeer in their affairs. be sides it is prooven scientificaly that it was not italian. more proofs in books from pedro Laranjeira and Manuel Rosa; Yes im portuguese.

[Reazzurro90]

@Matos616

No, scientific proof has determined definitively that he IS Italian.

[danielrodriguezmera]

@Reazzurro90 good point son! u are 100% right!

[LaspeziaPunk27]

Actually the Portugese are Southern Europeans too. Just like Spaniards and Italians. It's possible that Columbus was Portugese. After all some parts of Latin America speak Portugese. Brazil for example.

[LaspeziaPunk27]

Columbus was an Italian who represented Spain. He was a southern European. Latin Caucasion. Whats so complicated about that?

[protohellenic]

I dont think he was Spanish or much less Portuguese, overwhelming evidence of this. I do believe He was an Italian National, but who exactly are the Italians? their roots? especially in southern Italy? you guessed it Greek. This you cannot deny. Cheers brother

[tuxedomoon]

He was Italian but his family roots were greek byzantine,his son said that they came from Byzantine and his name is still very Greek to a lot of people in Greece

[totoscope]

He was so much "Italian" as the planet is flat! What do you know about Colon History?? Read the proofs bellow he couldn't be Italian (or Greec)!

[totoscope]

1) If the analphabet genove from genova was the same person as COLOM (the scientist and noble navigator and friend with the best aristocracy and Kings of Iberia), how it was possible he wrote a letter (in Latin!) from Lisbon to the italian scientist Toscanelli in 1474 if that the retarded mental Colombo from Genova was STILL in Italy eating and sleeping with pigs ?

Actually, the genovese thesis says that he arrived in Portugal in 1476 with 21 years old and still in a barbarian stage!

[totoscope]

2) Why a scientist like Toscanelli (serving the King of¨Portugal!!) would spend his time writing letters to a little idiot analphabet from genova and IN LATIN! (language used in that time between to strangers -as we do today with the english language)?

[totoscope]

3) Where could he learn so much and so fast the several sciences he knew??? Where, when and where he got the money??

Nota: in that time only nobles and some bishops were educated!

Where did Colombo (the bartender, not the Navigator) learned the juwish Thora?

[totoscope]

4) How could the bartender from genova maried with one of the best noble woman?

And how could he as a stranger participate in secrets portuguese expeditions if such a thing was not allowed to foregn people?

And how could he participate in Secret State meetings of King Johan the Second??

Why for 90 per cent of the lands he found he named them with portugueses landnames??

Why not a single one italian?

[totoscope]

5) In this video it says Papal-Bulls presented by Dr. Luciano da Silva "are fake". This is a lier. It have been verify in Vatcan by other portuguese historians that they are true. This video and the text it shows is a FAKE not the Papal-Bulls of Luciano da Silva.

Question:

Why the italo-spaniard Alexander VI didn't named the navigator with the italian name "Colombo" (witch means piegon) and named him "Colon" (witch came from the word column)?

[totoscope]

6) Why the King of Portugal would need a genovese amateur and ignorant of ships named "Colombo" if the King was surronded by hundred of experimented portuguese Navigators(THE BEST of the world!)?

Why his son said my father's name is COLON (-not Colombo?

Why he treated the italian historian Giustiniani (who said that the navigator was Columbus and from Genova) a lier?

[totoscope]

7) How could italians wrote he was italian if COLON NEVER said his origins -not even to his sons, it seems?

Dear Readers,

These are some of the many reasons why serious historians don't believe that Columbus from Genova was the unknown Navigator who discovered America named Colón.

[totoscope]

Nota: the names Colon and Colombo are as well as different as the names O'Connor and O'Brian..!

[totoscope]

please see the comments in  the page before.

[beyondersam]

new finding PROVE he was portuguese you fucking morons, just google it.. stupid fucks

[beyondersam]

of course he was :)

[AlessandroFarnese]

How the hell can you compare Usa with Italy?Florence,Pise,Rome,Venic­e,The first university in Europe,the place of romans,the land who shaped cultures,art,laws followed by almost all the western word.

The land of everything should be called Italy!

[AlessandroFarnese]

Let's tell that Italy has been the center of everything for 1500 years,and when Italy had a culture,was rich and had a republic as Venice copied by the whole world,the others only thought to kill natives in America,killing each others for religious belief,stealing lands etc.

Let's ask what the hell others save Italy gave to world maybe...

[AlessandroFarnese]

Britassh let's see if you tell us where you come from you coward bastard.

You probably are an immigrant son of a bitch with no power but a keyobard.What Italy gave?Verdi,Volta,Fermi,Rubbia,­Rita Levi Montalcini,and this since 1861..

Leonardo,Galilei,Michelangel,B­eccaria..

As for the Ugly people and crime...lol

That's could only come from a diseased brain with no cells.

[cycyvaz]

Era judeu,portugues só pq vc quer.

[Armageddon1092]

OMFG... what a bunch of ignorant uneducated idiots full of jealousy and hatred around here like britassh or trickylight puking bullshit and so called "theories" and trying to steal history LMFAO

[britassh]

Italians are some of the most ignorant people around, quick to tell how great and proud they are to be Italian, but the truth is they have only been a nation in name since 1861. Let see what they have given the world since 1861; pizza, crime,dirt poor immigrants, corruption,mafia,crime,hopeles­s governments and political figures,cowardice soldiers and traitors,WW1,WW2,ugly people,crime etc. In other words Italians are a cancer, look at Brazil,Argentina and now the USA.

[legionariuslegxiii]

And you are nothing more than a son of a convict son of a barbarian.

Western civilizzation is Greece and Rome.

End of the story.

[britassh]

Italy as a nation was created in 1861(by the French), prior to this the notion of being an Italian did not exist. How can we believe that explorers such as Columbus or Vespucci would exalt themselves as great Italians, in 1492? What they did was not for Italy, it was for the GLORY OF SPAIN. Italians still think that they created Ancient Rome, todays Italians bear no resemblance to the magnificence of the Roman empire. The USA is the modern torch bearer of that light today. USA = Roman Empire

[AlessandroFarnese]

Usa=roman empire my dick you fucking scum.

The ancestors of the americans were the ugly germans a people who had nothing than swords and shields back in time.

All the beauty,the greatness,the art come from Italy and Greece.

Usa could be like mongol empire.Only destruction,no beauty,anything cultural to teach to world.

that's what Usa is.

[joao2709]

My dear friends, say everithing that you wish, but the truth beyond the mystery of Cristobal Colon true identity is that he was born in Portugal. One day everyone will know the truth, and that its something that any pice of shit video like this one can stop.

[totoscope]

it's done! i just put all the clear evidences one page one! I am curious to see what the autor will answer... :-)))

[andresd82003]

He couldn't hide his catalan dialect when he wrote in Spanish. All the letters he wrote to Italian banks were in Spanish because he didn't speak or write a lick of it. You can't try to hide the truth when material proof is all over the place.

[andresd82003]

The guy didn't even know how to write in Genoese or in Italian, the letters that remain are all in Spanish and "ALL" his letters showed Catalan influence and writing style. Catalunya is a region in North-eastern Spain that used to be at war with the kingdom that eventually financed his voyage which is why he lied and said he was Genoese. He even hookep up with all his catalan boys after the discovery. It is so Obvious he didn't speak Italian or Genoese.

[renwuying777]

Who cares where Colon was born!?

He lived and died under the Spanish flag!

He spoke Spanish and read and wrote in Spanish also....that makes him a Spaniard.

Even if you believe the Italian theory he wouldn't be very "Italian" in my book..

[elplasta]

Cristobal Colon era un judio sefardie.

[trickylight]

que va a ser judio...la de ilusos que hay por aqui...

[elplasta]

Bueno a lo mejor me he precipitado un poco,pero fuera de bromas muchos historiadores sostienen que es posible que fuera un judeoconverso(marrano).

[trickylight]

ya...la de teorias que hay por ahi. incluso bulgaro dicen que podria ser :/ en estos casos lo que hay que ver es la tesis que más pruebas aporta. no hay absolutamente ninguna duda que la teoria más documentada es la Portuguesa.

[elplasta]

La de que era portugues ya esta practicamente descartada ya que en sus escritos en portugues tiene fallos que son de una persona que no domina el idioma.

[trickylight]

pero tienes idea de lo que dices? "colon", Salvador Fernandes Zarco nunca ha escrito en Portugués encuanto "colon", eso era parte del cuento. Aún asi, ha puesto nombres Portugueses, más de 50, a todos sus pseudo-descubrimientos. Fijate que solo en Cuba ha usado más de 20 que son relativos a su familia y a la ciudad donde ha nacido, Cuba. Se ve que eres un aficionado, fijate: el tema de los fallos se aplica a sus cartas en castellano, que tienen errores tipicamente Portugueses :)

[elplasta]

Eso lo he leido pero no con errores tipicamente portugueses,sino catalanes.

[trickylight]

pues habra que leer más...y no blogs, wikipedia o otros sites...pero libros enteros, bien documentados, con pruebas solidas. la teoria catalana es motivo de risa de la comunidad de historiadores internacionales. la genovesa ni siquiera es tenida en cuenta, la griega, bulgara, francesa, etc mucho menos. la unica que esta bien construída es la gallega, pero su autor con un par de errores, ha reforzado sin querer colón era realmente Portugués.

[elplasta]

Yo de Colon la verdad esque no estoy muy documentado,lo que si se es que por lo menos para la mayoria de gente era de origen genoves.

[trickylight]

bueno...pues entonces mejor no opinar no? si te interesa el tema, documentate como debe de ser. además es muy interesante.

[elplasta]

Tu estas convencido de que era portugues?

[trickylight]

hombre, sin querer presumir, he leído libros y libros sobre el tema, además de haber investigado solo. la teoria más sólida y documentada es realmente la Portuguesa. Es un sin fin de pruebas que conectan "colon" a Portugal y a la persona de Salvador Fernandes Zarco. Hay que respetar algunas de las otras tésis, pero realmente cuando comparadas con la Lusa se muestran muy poco reales. Otras no hay ni que perder el tiempo con ellas, como la genovesa, que esta llena de documentos falsos.

[elplasta]

Tu porque crees que la genovesa es la que mas gente se cree?

[trickylight]

por varias razones. la primera es un poco estupida pero la historia me da la razón: los italianos son expertos en plagiar echos historicos para si mismos. bueno, un poco más en serio te digo que los cronistas (que eran los historiadores de su tiempo por decirlo de alguna forma), nunca desconfiaron de ello y se fundamentaron en un documento que apareció 74 años después de la muerte de "colón". es un testamento que dejaba todo el patrimonio de "colon" a una supuesta familiar genovesa...

[trickylight]

...en ese documento "colon" dice muy forzadamente "yo colon, nacido en genova, tal y cual...". para empezar, nunca colon en sus decenas de cartas y documentos habia hablado de su origen...lo que hizo los historiadores sospechar. fue muy facil probar que el documento era falso: el testamento dice después algo como "saludo sus majestades reales, D.Fernando y D.Isabel,..., y el principe Juan...". lo que pasa es que este testamento data de 1498, y el principe habia muerto 1 año antes.

[renwuying777]

The document you mention was found to be a forgery(fake) made many years after his death.

[trickylight]

are you dumb? did you even bother reading everything i wrote about the subject properly? "colom" was surely not genoese. when i mentioned the document i was careful enough to say it was a fake and why. once again, please read some proper books about the subject and only then post something interesting, something beyond a 10 years old boy knowledge.

[trickylight]

ese error seria suficiente para pena de muerte a su autor. además hay otras 26 errores en el testamento.

más tarde se ha sabido que la mujer era casada con un genoves que ya habia sido preso años antes por falsear documentos.

[trickylight]

te has preguntado alguna vez pq "colón" a la vuelta de su primer viaje a las américas, visitó el rey de Portugal durante 3 dias antes de ir a españa? o porque nunca fué al continente en sus viajes iniciales, evitandolo cirurgicamente?

[totoscope]

En sus escritos Colon escribia un castellano portugues. Es decir el portuñol

[trickylight]

HAHAHAHAHAHA...Mr Borghese got so intimidated with my comments that had to delete them!!! Typical italian. Keep dreaming about your genoese "columbus", after all the only place in which he was ever genoese was in italy's dreams. shame on you.

[saverioborghese]

And, dear "renwuying777",

talking about great navigators and Italians, I mention for first the Italian Repubbliche Marinare (Genoa, Venice, Pisa, Amalfi..) that ruled the mediterranean sea and for several centuries during the Middle Ages.

And in fact the Lingua Franca of the Mediterranean was a mixed language that for a long time was based on Italian dialects (the expression "lingua franca" itself is Italian).

[saverioborghese]

The greatness of the Italian Repubbliche Marinare is clear when we consider how even the English flag is basically the genoese flag:

[saverioborghese]

"The flag of England was originally the flag of Genoa and was adopted by England and the City of London in 1190 for their ships entering the Mediterranean to benefit from the protection of the powerful Genoese fleet. The maritime Republic of Genoa was rising and going to become, with its rival Venice, one of the most important powers in the world. The English Monarch paid an annual tribute to the Doge of Genoa for this privilege."

[saverioborghese]

The greatest explorers the world ever had were italian: Columbus and Marco Polo.

Some italian navigator:

-Lanzerotto Malocello (who discovered Canary Islands)

-The best navigators your dear portuguese king Henry the so called Navigator had were italian:

Alvise Cadamosto (who discovered Cape Verde and who explored the Gambia river) and Antonio da Noli.

[saverioborghese]

-Cristoforo Colombo (who reached officially for first the new world)

-Amerigo Vespucci (who showed the land Columbus reached was a new continent)

-John Cabot (Giovanni Caboto, who reached north America officially for first)

-Giovanni da Verrazzano (who was the first to explore the north-eastern american coast, including New York Harbor and Narragansett Bay)

[saverioborghese]

An italian discovered America, an Italian gave his name to an entire continent (america<amerigo), an italian made the first important --and almost complete- european exploration of Asia, an italian made the first important observations on the asiatic customs and on their history (Historia Mongalorum by Giovanni da Pian del Carmine), an italian described for first Australia and the costellation today on the australian flag.

[saverioborghese]

An italian reached north-america for first (Caboto) an italian explored the northern american coastline for first (Giovanni da Verrazzano), an italian reached the source of the Mississipi river for first (Giacomo Costantino Beltrami: look at Beltrami county in Minnesota). America is from Amerigo (Vespucci), Colombia is from Colombo, Venezuela is from Venice! Malocello discovered Canary Islands, Cadamosto discovered Cape Verde...

[ulviye]

more trash! Amerigo only give the name- but long before him and marco polo- there came- DUH!!! THE VIKINGS!!!! Leif Erikson along with others came across what is now Canada and U.S. OH NO!!!

Don't tell me the italian il Leifo Eriksono (lol) found the Americas!!

Oh goodness, what a joke.

[renwuying777]

Columbus wasn't it Italian. It's only a theory.

Vespucci did not discover anything. Fernando de Magallanes(sailed around the world) and Vasco Balboa(discovered the Pacific Ocean) did. So did Vasco da Gama(African route to Asia).

Caboto y Verazzano did not discover anything either. Colon beat Caboto to America.

[renwuying777]

No, no. His apprentice was the legendary Vasco da Gama.

and Prince Enrique "The Navigator" is considered the precursor to Columbus NOT the Italians you mentioned.

[trickylight]

oh and for the record, it does mean where "colom" was from, as he was surely not sailing for the kings of spain. neither he spoke or wrote spanish fluently. but that's beyond your 6th grade knowledge.

[renwuying777]

How the hell can he not speak or write it fluently when his entire crew was SPANISH.

The Queen he proposed his plan to was SPANISH.

His entire Captain's log is written in SPANISH.

His ships names were SPANISH.

He lived AND died under the SPANISH flag. There's nothing Italian about him except some theories.

[renwuying777]

With only three ships Don Blas de Lezo forced payments owed to Spanish banks by the Republic of Genoa(Italy).

Don Blas threatened the city of Genoa with bombardment unless they solute the Spanish flag. They ended up soluting it.

[trickylight]

actually, despite my other comment, i'm going to waste a minute writing you something. have you noticed renwuying777 how your comments sound like you're pasting what a 10 year old has just learnt on school? get real, read and don't bring up such basic elements. and revise your primary school book or wikipedia, or whatever your sources are. magalhães, did not sail around the world. that wasn't even his intention. read...learn. then if u dare, say something good.

[renwuying777]

Okay. It wasn't Magallanes, it was Juan Elcano who was the first man to sail around the world on the Spanish ship, the Victoria.

[renwuying777]

He sailed for Spain. He has a Spanish name, He spoke and wrote in Spanish(same with his children)...NOT Italian.

Everything he did, the language he spoke...makes him SPANISH!

The world's BEST Navigators and explorers were Portuguese and Spanish NOT Italian:

Vasco da Gama(legendary)

Prince Enrique "The Navigator"

Fernando de Magallanes

Vasco Nunez de Balboa(discoverd the Pacific)

Juan Elcano

It's VERY likely that he was Iberian...it's a bit of a stretch to say that he was Italian..

[saverioborghese]

????????

The purpose of this video is not to show who had the best navigators, but it is to show that Columbus was obviously an Italian from Genoa.

He has an ITALIAN NAME: Cristoforo COLOMBO.

Colòn is just the spanish version of his original name he adopted in Spain

as well as an other great Italian navigator, Giovanni CABOTO, is know as John CABOT since he sailed for the english crown.

[saverioborghese]

Christopher and Bartholomew were among the members of the family who turned the surname into Colon when they went to Spain, while Giannantonio and Andrea, Columbus' cousins, who went from Genoa to Spain too and who took a part into Columbus' travels kept the original (italian) surname, Colombo.

[saverioborghese]

When the Italian navigator Columbus went to Spain, he spoke and wrote a BAD SPANISH as it has been showed on several occasions by many scholars.

Columbus' castilian (spanish) was not his native tongue at all. This is not something disputed but something 100% sure.

[saverioborghese]

The great spanish philologist and historian Ramón Menéndez Pidal made a deep reasearch on Columbus' language and he showed it is impossible Columbus was a native Iberian speaker and how Columbus was not even able to tell some portuguese words from their castilian equivalent (and viceversa).

See: Ramón Menéndez Pidal, "La lengua de Cristóbal Colón", Madrid, 1947.

[saverioborghese]

The spanish Consuelo Varala published a series of Columbus writings.

It follows the original handwritten annotation in Italian language, signed as f) 14:

"Dopo el peccato delli primi parenti cadendo l'homo de male en pegio perdete la simigliança de Dio, como dice el salmista, prese similitudine de bestia"

[saverioborghese]

An other annotation in italian language registered by Varala is on a page of an italian translation of Pliny's Naturalis Historia made by Cristoforo Landino. Just this demonstrates of course Columbus could read and write Italian.

Everything makes Columbus ITALIAN.

There is not anything that makes him a spanish.

[saverioborghese]

Did he sail for Spain?? He sailed for himself. The spanish crown didn't give anything directly to him for financing his trip. He need the spanish crown in order to receive the royal permission to try crossing the ocean.

[saverioborghese]

Who did finance Columbus' first trip (with only 3 boats, wow! It seems Spain didn't believe so much in "that foreigner")? It was financed by the municipality of Palos, the minister Santangel, GENOESE and FLORENTINE bankers (like the Bardi, Francesco Pinelli, Gianotto Berardi...), Columbus himself and others.

[totoscope]

really?? in witch document it says that? In the genovese mafia documents?

[renwuying777]

The fleet of ships he used belonged to the Spanish(for sure) Pinzon brothers.

La Pinta, La Niña, y La Santa Maria. Pinzon's property.

[renwuying777]

He lived in died under the Spanish Flag and language.

It is not proved that he's Italian. It's merely a theory.

[totoscope]

This is another lie. Mendez Pidal says in his conclusion that the language of Colon seems to be more the portuguese than anyother lanquage!

[totoscope]

yes that's true! His spanish was full of elementary errors and full of portuguese words. Curiously he didn't knew the italian lanquage..!

[unaltrejuny2014]

whan Darwin prooved the evolutionists theory,thousands of creationist "specialists" were prooved wrong

Jordi Bilbeny has prooved the spanish conspiracy to make colon genoese,for money and power

[saverioborghese]

An other ridicolous example-

Darwin worked out a theory, while Columbu's genoese, and so Italian, nationality is a fact and not just a theory since there is NOT even ONE COEVAL testimony of every kind that denies Columbus was Genoese, Ligurian, ITALIAN. Everything shows the same: Columbus is Italian. WITHOUT EXCEPTION.

[unaltrejuny2014]

what a way to pervert truth

Spanish historians want to make columbus not Catalan,as Catalunya is not Spain,only an ignorant would put Spanish historians in a list to proove Columbus as a not Catalan

What you do is the same as putting as list of nazi historians to proove that the holocaust didn't exist!

[saverioborghese]

"only an ignorant would put Spanish historians in a list to proove Columbus ecc."

First of all for a Spanish historian who considers Catalunya as Spain it should be a honour a "Catalan Columbus".

Second I quoted historians, chroniclers and testimonies from every part of the world.

There is NOT even ONE COEVAL testimony of every kind that denies Columbus was Genoese, Ligurian, ITALIAN. Everything shows the same: Columbus is Italian. WITHOUT EXCEPTION.

[saverioborghese]

99% of the odd writers that state Columbus was not Genoese are actually DILETTANT.

You are the one that is in the same position of the nazi "historians" that denied the holocaust existed: in fact you try to deny the evidence like they do. Your example is ridicolous.

[unaltrejuny2014]

the catalan colom was in Portugal,it is prooved Catalonia and Portugal were dinasticaslly linked

[totoscope]

if you like colom history and to see why he couldn't be a foreigner in the court of King Joahn the second, please see page one.

[kaiserwwe]

Columbus was portuguese that is the true.

[zigsauer]

Christopher Columbus was a Greek from Chios

[saverioborghese]

Christopher Columbus, Cristoforo Colombo, was Genoese, Italian. See my videos and learn something. Stop with bullshits and envy. The whole world is green of envy when it looks at Italy.

[ath4ever]

Saverio, the world, at least the Greek world is not envious of Italy. We love Italy and you know it. It's just sometimes, some people (including my co-patriots) are "romantic dreamers" like those who believe that Colombus was Greek. Of course he was Italian. Generally, here, we don't consider him Greek. That would be really funny to say so! p.s and you know it, too ;-))

[Wassil29]

Egyptian, Mesopotamian, Phoenician.... in brief the world we call today the Arab world isn't green with envy when they look at any of you ......But we have to admire your achievements as Globalisation slaves and consumer society... you definitely excel in that !

Ohh I forgot .. about Columbus I think he was an Arab... or perhaps a Berber... or was he a Moor? .... a saracen perhaps ?

... Ahhhhh Never mind ... who cares :)

Peace

[ath4ever]

Zigsauer, i am a Greek like you, also Alexander the Great was Greek but not Colombus. The "Chios theory" is just a fairy tale. Nice one though....but not real.

[LONGINO85]

Evviva, evviva, evviva

[LONGINO85]

bye bye mini mini mini mini micro Portogallo. Made in Portugal? 0 0 0 0

[rcosta9999]

Hi Guys the ileterate Perrot LONGINO85 is back in town! He is still away from English school!

[LONGINO85]

Ali ti razumes italijanscino ali slovenscino? Ti si peder :)

Se ti infastidisce puoi anche tornare sugli alberi a fotterti le quelle scimmie troiose delle belle portoghesi eheh

Cristoforo Colombo è stato un grande italiano che ancora oggi gli Stati Uniti festeggiano. I portoghesi non sono contemplati :P

[LONGINO85]

Gli Stati Uniti e tutti gli alfabetizzati del mondo lo sanno, precisiamo

[rcosta9999]

Picholo Italian fagget, Picholo, Picholo...

[LONGINO85]

Gres na drevo :=)

[LONGINO85]

Evviva, evviva Cristoforo Colombo il più grande navigatore genovese...

[LONGINO85]

Certo, il più grande navigatore di tutti i tempi. Evvia evviva. I portoghesi pederasti possono continuare a chiavarsi le mezze negre beduine e quella nutrita cortina di trans che sfornano con generosità.

[rcosta9999]

Eviva, Eviva, Come soy ignorante, you me chiamo Longino85, soi mezzo neri, mezzo Arab/sicialiano (mas per tutti il mondo sono bianchissimo, ochi blue... como un tedesco...)

Tutti il Grecci, Spanoli, Portuguesi soni inferiori... io sono superiori, bianchissimo como un Turco, parlo Italiano e Italiano.Sono Picholo 1,60m...Bello, Bello..Sono Scimmie, sono negre beduine

[PinkoTomasich]

Portugal is a terrible country (food, music, government, people, architecture, etc). You should know better than I do. I would never go to that stupid insignificant country. Prostitutes and gypsies

[rcosta9999]

Ho, now I understand,

You have never been there...

Well at leat your intelligence is not betrayied by your ignorance!

Pinko Tomasich, is that a Gypsy name ? I thought so...

[LusitanianCeltaGale]

lol!

[Wassil29]

rcosta9999 I like your spirit :) you get thumbs up from me :)

[LONGINO85]

Kako se pisete? Caccaro?

[totoscope]

:-)))

please, see my comments on page one! I am curious to see what the autor will answer to these FACTS

[LONGINO85]

Cristoforo Colombo era di Genova, lo testimoniano tutte le infinite documentazioni scritte :) e le analisi sul DNA ufficialmente riconosciute adducono ad una corrispondenza di Colombo alla Lombardia, Italia. Il mondo intero conosce la storia, voi ogni anno inventate teorie nuove, pseudoscientifiche (col DNA non si prova assolutamente nulla), per regalarvi qualche personaggio storico di rilievo. Comunque Cristoforo era un grande italiano

[LONGINO85]

poveri portoghesi mortaccioni, si arrabbiano proprio quando gli si prende a pedate nel culo :) grande opera saverio

[uberalles90]

altro gran capolavoro,saverio!

[rcosta9999]

ever heard of Cuba? The island was Baptized after the name of the Portuguese city Colombo was born!

[saverioborghese]

THE NAME CUBA was given to THE island by the natives, the Taino, the Syboneis and the Guanajatabey that the Spaniards found there. The name "Cuba" derives from the Taino word "cubanacán", "central place" (source: Catholic Encyclopedia).

[rcosta9999]

sure,how obvious can it be!

So the Portuguese VILLA CUBA, has nothing to do with it!

Are you sure that Cuba is not an Italian city?

You can believe want you want to believe, be happy with your truth!

It is proven that is DNA is not FROM ITALY GENOA.

[PORTUGAL1010]

What about the OTHER MORE THAN 40 NAMES OF PLACES that Colon named which were all around the area of Beja and Cuba in Portugal. Those were the natives ALSO?

Read my brother Manuel Rosa's new book now we are finally getting to the real Story. Italians have a habit of claiming as their own what isn't theirs.

Next you will say that Saint Anthony was Italian also?

[PORTUGAL1010]

It has clearly been proven by the Discovery Channel Special and DNA that he was NOT ITALIAN or from GENOA

[MarcoLegioAurelio]

Che dire?I tuoi soliti capolavori Valerio!

Fanculo i portoghesi!

p.s

Ho gia' dato 5 stelle a tutti.

[MarcoLegioAurelio]

LOL

Valerio!

Intendevo Saverio!

[Trulyloyale]

Of course Cristoforo Colombo was Italian, who can be so retarded & ridiculous in belevieing he was not ???

[ath4ever]

There are many who do it, Trulyloyale. Unfortunately of course

[Trulyloyale]

many who do it ? ath4ever you said before that out of a very few extremely nationalistic retards everybody for sure knows Cristoforo Colombo was Italian .....

[ath4ever]

Yes. I mean, many of this kind. And - unfortunately - this kind of extremists exists in every nation.

But, of course, these ones are fewer than those who know the truth.

The general attitude is that he was Italian. Of course he was, no reasonable person can deny it.

[ath4ever]

Nice video, good work.

Don't worry, the majority of the people know that Colombus was Italian.