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  • Wow. Nothing like threads on metal!

  • You should upload a 10min version of this...

  • damn to make a single thread you need fucking patience...

  • You dont need no oil or coolant at that speed,

    and defenetly not with coromant inserts.

  • Rolling is much better.

  • that is fucking cool to bad we dont have jobs like that in america and moving to china is no fun

  • @798unionpipeliner There are so many machining jobs in the U.S.

  • @798unionpipeliner I am a machinist and we employ over 15 people at our shop. Pretty much most things labeled "Made in U.S.A." When it comes to machines were american employed. There are plenty of jobs out there, just need the training and experience.

  • @astriknon what state are you in

  • @798unionpipeliner St. Louis, MO... I do suppose it matters what city you live in whether its heavy in manufacturing or not.

  • @astriknon well i live in houston tx there is some manufacturing here but thanks to rick perry most who have them jobs are mexican's that's why i asked what state are you in,,do you know of a union i can join to become a machinist

  • How does it align so well for each pass? Incredible.

  • @Perplexer1 An indicator, either digital or a dial on the handles.

  • Cool and also a bit trippy to watch.

  • I love this thread ^^ (imagine cat picture here) 

  • Great instructional video! - For the 50 "dislikes" - WTF?!

  • nice job. Hey what I find funny is that this guy films himself winding a chuck on a homemade thread with one hand and still holds the camera more steady that most of the amateurs on youtube trying to film alone.

  • somebody here said to try cutting from the shoulder out that it would give a good finish,, well it would also give left hand threads too... did anyone think to ask this guy doing the threading if he is new at this and if he is , he is doing a great job and if he is an old hand at this, he is still doing a great job because i am sure he is having fun at home with a lathe !!!!

  • try threading from the shoulder and out, at much higher speed, gives good finish.

  • @Axbent that would give a left hand thread?

  • how much you'r cutting metal per pass ?

  • @vinyvinyboy

    yes please how much per pass?

  • Truck axle perhaps?

  • @atpchase sorry I was in error.

  • wow you made yourself through to the 6th video of the list ! somebody's gonna take good grades from 2nd midterm..

  • u are too slow :S

  • nice work!

  • nice threading.

    

  • Notice the deflection of the cutting tool from the shaft being threaded at 1.05 min. This is an excellent example showing deflection of a cutting tool from the work. Great video

  • They Make Half nuts on the Lathe so you don't have to put in rev. Just catch catch the dial each time, and no guessing when to stop the lathe for rev.

    . either that or lead screw is metric and you can't disengage the half nut.

  • I wish I could have good videocamera - I too make "Thread Cutting Closeup" video...

  • Nice cutting. I am very new to the art form. How were you able to have the machine start at the exact space each time you started another run on the lathe?

  • @ShooterReview The first run he shows it running in reverse to bring it back to the start. I guess it's skipped on every subsequent take.

  • i always use wd40 when cutting threads.

  • @userwl2850 WD40 is NOT the good coolant! The better coolant is special industrial oil or industrial coolant mixture.

  • @FactoryDragon87 yes i know. i don,t use it as coolant, it would catch fire. look on my channel uploads at my machine shop. i know how to cut steel.

  • Watch this when high. I dare you.

  • Auto feed

  • how did you make it do that so it cuts the same spot every time

  • cool thread bro

  • Very good setup. nice and clean.

  • cut more at one time...

  • Dont forget one may not have a dial indicator.

  • Good video, from a fellow machinist, no lube so that we may see whats going on.

    Cutting a thread like shown is superior than using a die, You get a tight clean thread.

    Thanks for sharing.

  • How does the groove lines up perfectly every time?

  • @5687678 You see in the first pass that he reverses the spindle, so the feed is also reversed, thus keeping the same lineup every single time, never disengange the feed. If you wanna go back and make a deeper cut, back out of the workpiece, reverse the spindle and let the feed do all the work. Sorry if I don't make sense, english is not my primary language :)

  • Fishtail that cutting tool. What kind of lathe? Nice job!

  • Thank you for this well-photographed view of the thread-cutting process.

    I find it fascinating to learn about various machining methods even though I do not understand them well.

  • "OMFG! He made a thread with no oil! Wtf is he thinking ... How is that even possible!? I'm surprised the machine didn't blow up or caught fire!"

    Also... you're all idiots.

    The man bought himself a lathe, material and tools to show you this. I think its safe to say that he knows the basics...

    How much of the actual thread cutting would we see in this video if it was covered in oil and coolant? .... exactly.

  • @SPUNKKK A little rapid tap never hurts.

  • OO was das denn, das hat nix mit Gewindedrehen zu tun aber für die Spilezeugdreher ist das wohl ok.

  • @SPUNKKK This is how I cut threads at a job I had 20 years ago. Sometimes miss that time. I'm into computers now, work and repair on them... Fun project, making 20 bolts from scratch. Doubleended with different threads on each end, THAT was fun, hehe.

  • @SPUNKKK is this cast iron ? if so no cutting fluid is needed for turning or milling

  • @astro1218 hes just saying to show the purpose of how its done hes not using and oil or coolant cant see shit with it spraying everywhere

  • too much for step of cutting and no lubricant or coolant , so bad

    can get it for 3-4 times to finishing

  • I'm getting so tired of all these CNC douche bags thinking they are sooo smart and know everything...when in reality they don't. A monkey could run a CNC. Classes take what? 2 weeks? Anyone could press a couple buttons and watch a machine do everything. Yes, CNC is obviously better for mass production. But seriously, leave the manual machining to us people that are actually capable of using our head.

  • a drop of oil would have helped alot...

  • It's weird how lathes constantly cut threads, whether intentional or not.

  • what were you making?

    

  • so this is how to cut the thred....wow im must stop watching discovery channle now

  • CNC could do this in exactly 8 seconds at 1200 RPM

  • @canliquer by the time you program your cnc I would have the thread finished.

  • @canliquer And to proggy it and set up about a day for what a 2 min job manually.

    CNC is for mass production leave the manual work to the few people that still exist that know how to operate a machine.

  • Probably should use some oil on that or it's going to ware out fast.

  • Nice, always wondered how they made.

  • Put some bacon grease or shortening on that to cut a better thread finish.

  • Nice cutting material... 12L14?

  • 730 415 nerds and counting

  • @chineseboxer108 some people have jobs

  • what is the included angle of the threads?

  • Good to see someone still knows how to set the compound to 29 deg

  • @johnswburg nice to see some one mention this!!!! have you noticed how all the youngsters keep on about how much easier it is to just use the tool at 90 degrees?? shows how much they do know dosent it!

  • Just curious, but why do you stop the machine and reverse it to run the carriage back? Can't you just disengage the lead screw and wind it back manually? (I'm assuming you're using a chasing dial). Seems like it would be faster and a little easier on the motor.

  • @Barnekkid some guys just dont like the dial, he is making 1/2-20, if it is a metric lead screw with out a conversion gear set, there is an acceptable error that can only be maintained if the lead screw IS NOT disengaged

  • if i spent that long screw cutting one component id get the biggest bollocking ive ever had off my boss!

  • Why isn't he using cutting oil?

  • It's great to see that I'm not the only that cheats by stopping, cranking out, reversing, and advancing in!

  • Mesmerizing...

  • My old Boss taught me to set the compound slide to the same angle as the thread, then feed in with the compound slide, that way the cut is made on the leading edge of the tool bit so avoiding the tip breaking, so for a metric 60 degree thread set the slide to 30 degrees, having said that i done some screw cutting recently and fed in with the cross slide no probs, just took it easy just like this video, thumbs up :-)

  • @Boxman363 I'm not sure your comment belongs in this video because you don't come across as a master machinist douche bag like a lot of the others.

  • @adisharr Thanks adisharr, nice to hear from someone with common sence ! :-)

  • Also USE SOME F*CKING CUTTING OIL!

  • @pbauw hahahahahahahahaha lol.

  • Why'd you keep stopping and reversing? Will the half-nut not catch right and split the threads?

  • 0:21 ops...

  • Its good to do, and good to hear people still do it manually. I am use to cnc now, so this job prob be done in 30 seconds!! . It is hard to try and write it on here for you new guys just starting out. But hope this puts you in the right direction, and helps understand how to do it. If you do take a bit too deep depth of cut, it can be more likely youl chip the tool. Also if you doing manual screwcut, prob need to be 50 rpm max. Keep leadscrew engaged all the time, till done thread.

  • if you doing screw cutting on manual lathe. Then you need to check in zeus book the thread depth. Touch tool on to od. If you got a DRO then set to 0.0mm or actual dia of job.Eg M10 = dia 10mm Really what ever you prefer. (If no DRO then use dial on x axis handle) Then each pass prob 0.15mm, its your choice. (see how it cuts) so first pass on DRO 9.7mm (0.15 depth, so 0.3 total). next pass 9.4 etc. But may be deeper you go reduce depth of cut. Take backlash into account too.

  • Fucking amazing.

  • It's not CNC, right? So how do you do this? I just started learning this job so I understand one pass - you set the revolutions, tool speed - ok. But how do you enter the thread after the first pass.

    There has to be some kind of mechanism.

  • @les777pl there is, there is a spindle like thing that spins and you pre set it for the thread pitch, so when he engages the machine it will catch back on and cut the same thread every time. now if he was to move the piece at all or dial in/out on his compound then he wouldnt be able to anymore and would be force to reset it all. which can be a pain in the ars.

  • nice old skool! :)

  • good work

  • Why so many passes? There is tooling out there that can cut in a single pass on a manual lathe. Just curious not being rude. Thanks.

  • @BillyBob3430 Hey Dood.The only way ya can do it in one hit is to use a die. So on manual lathe you can put die in holder and if you bring tailstock up to job and put die on front of job, then wind tailstock out to locate on back of holder, You can have lathe on about 40 rpm,then as you turn it on,it will wind die onto job, you slowly turn handle on tailstock to keep die square on job.The more you do it the easier it will get. Then when you got die on to req place, turn lathe to reverse.

  • nice vid

  • great job not many people know how to do this anymore, its all about CNC

  • set the compound rest to 29 degrees on less and use the compound rest to increase the depth of the thread, you get nicer threads, and you are less likely to break off the tip of a tool.

  • not if you dont mind a left handed thread and a right hand thread on the same part.! in order to thread outward you have to put the tool on the other side and reverse the chuck rotatiion

  • why can you not just reverse the machine and penetrate deeper, instead of backing off going back and resetting the thread dial.....am i missing something???

  • @ninja6kid The answer is backlash. There is some built in clearance in machine tool ways and screws that will not allow what you're describing. The cutter tool would not be in the same exact place. It would also be turning the opposite direction, which would make the cutting edge dull, and even worse, it would cut. A faster way for the person making these threads would have been to use his thread dial chaser, assuming this lathe is so equipped. Hope that answered your question.

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  • @ninja6kid because the piece would be cutting from the bottom of the tool, which obviously wouldn't work...he would have to keep changing the feed back in forth to reverse which would probably end up taking longer/more work. I don't get why he actually stops the machine though and then runs it in reverse like that. all he has to do is disengage it and dial it out while the machine is still running, then dial it back in.

  • @ThePLANxZ Some lathes require the half nut to remain engaged at all times when thread cutting certain threads. ie my lathe requires the half nut to remain engaged during metric thread cutting. It is a pain in the arse but such is life.

  • nice job 

  • A- this is the worst HSS cutter ive ever seen hand sharpened for threads, B- These will look like fu** when hes done because no oil/ coolant (ill bet anyone it makes a world of difference, if you actully care about your work.) C- Hes not using the compound on the lathe just diving in with his cross feed. Whos teaching people nowa days ahhhhhhh

  • @daytonamon40 A - the thread appears completely functional for the job. B. The threads look fine although probably not textbook. C. While using the compound is a better idea, I've cut many threads straight in and they work fine. Maybe he's not a machinist by trade like many other people and just need to cut a thread? I know, silly idea.

  • so if you need a treaded leadscrew to make threads, how were the first threads made???

  • The best way to machine something like that is to turn your tool upside down and run the machine in reverse, then you can run it much faster without worrying about it crashing into the job... better finish to!!

  • This was strangely soothing.

  • This wasn't cutting 1/2-20 . . . .

  • It is not a cnc machine.

  • is this a cnc, if not, do u have a thread indicator??

  • Dude you take way too long to cut that thread you can do it alot quicker^^...

    do your first cut with -0.8 diameter

    then do 0.7 more ( -1.5 )

    from that one do it in 0.4 stages you will be finished in no time!

  • A Yale student was killed by a Lathe Machine recently, so sad.

  • holly cow ten years later.

  • how much time does it take to do that in real time?

  • @MostFunnyUserName On a thread that size it doesnt take long, it doesnt matter about the Diameter when it comes to screw cutting its when the threads have to be long it takes ages (except for exeptionally large threads, and abnormal ones like multi start square threads). This job probably wouldnt have taken more than an hour from start to finish that includes setup. Your looking at 2 diameters and 1 thread.

  • @MostFunnyUserName To thread it, would take about 10 minutes roughly. the entire job about 30. start to finish with all of the setups.

  • all you people have no care for your workpiece and tools ? O_o

    sharpen your HSS tool, break the edges on your workpiece, set the tool height correctly because the front side isn't turned entirely

    and to that, your adjusting seems to be pretty bad...

    if you want to show something, do it properly!

  • reminds me of my school time...

    slowly, steady milling. getting the basics in your head and fingers.

    No need for coolant or cutting oil when you are taking your time without taking of alot of steel

  • why u doing in the opposite way fine video btw

  • i rlly love doing that on school

  • it's usually considered good practice to set the topslide over to half the thread angle - so for metric would be 30 degrees - and advance the tool using the topslide. This means that the tool will only be cutting on the one face, the benefit being that you are not trying to feed swarf from both cutting faces onto the top of the tool. The swarf will only be from one side and so clear a lot easier.

  • use a cnc would cut that tread in 20 seconds and be perfect lol

  • @70badbilly yes right, but not everyone hase one, and old style manual lathes also have style :)

  • @70badbilly

    CNC is not always more efficient. That's why every production machine shop employs Tool and Die Makers...

  • Kalemde bilemeden dolayı profil bozuk,

    Çekim bile olsa azda olsa soğutma suyu verilmeliydi

    Helis bitmeden ayna durduruluyor kaleme ve hatveye zarar.

  • no need to reverse motor leave it running disengage drive wind back to end and engage again.watch (single point thread cutting on a manual lathe).i hope i can be helpfull.

  • @dublin0850 I suspect this is a metric machine, and if your cutting an imperial thread on a metric machine you cant use the chase dial, and need to leave it enguaged. The same applies when cutting metric threads on an imperial machine. This most manual lathes. I will be posting a video about it later in the week.

    Keep up the good work.

  • why keep stopping the lathe i can cut threads and keep the machine running its faster .your fired.

  • @shempship Hi! the piece that cuts just does it when the piece that is cut rotates in one direction only, the part of the piece that cuts is only up, the part that is under does not cut. Sorry about my bad english, I'm brazilian.

  • when i am cutting threads i do a light pass then test it with a thread gauge to make sure its cutting the right amount of thread per inch.thats important when you are working on expensive materials or an expensive item.

  • I think its cool that you take the time to make your own tools, it probably saves you alot of money ;)

  • so cool, must be an expensive machine

  • @shempship When I did threads manually it was at school in shop. They had us grind all our threading/parting/cutting tools by hand, hard work to say the least. But practice is what's key. I spent one whole shop period (~4 hours) practicing threads. Get a tool, get a machined rod and go. If it gets too messy or you get it just right, part it off and start a new one. When you get it, it feels REALLY great. Just take your time and don't disengage!

  • @Jostrumable Ok everyone in school made what we call a "widget". Different pitch, different TPI. Exactly, don't get in a hurry to get a project done. Practice...become a master of your CRAFT.

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  • @shempship Death. To put it simply. A more complex answer would be disastrous destruction of your thread and possibly threading tool. Other than that there's no real reason to back off.

  • did you do this just for the hell of it?

    it's way easier to use a tap/die for 1/2x20 threads.

    there's no setup, just clamp and twist.

    it looked like your headstock was advancing into the tool not the tool moving towards the headstock.

    with the cam mounted to the toolpost i figured the back ground would move.

    that's a freaky optical illusion.

  • @tapper45 It DID look really weird. Freaky stuff, and pretty sure it was for the hell of it, or maybe he wanted something a tiny bit more precise than from a die. Not that dies haven't saved me at work before, just find it can take a bit too much if you aren't careful. Then again ours may just be crap.

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  • @healthbeforeolympics

    ROTFLMFAO!!!

  • im doin this at ma school!

  • IT'S BIT CRUSHER TIME

  • Ovo ne valja.

    Glava se ne zavija do kraja i lezaj labavo ide na osovinu. Tolerancija za lezaj je +0.005 do 0.01

  • Thx guy for posting. As I said I'm not a machinist. Currently programming. Our shop was getting excessive tool wear. My boss called the insert maker and after we listed to them all parameters and conditions, they recommended no coolant on large facing ops. Really we were unsure. But...it worked. I kinda guessed there were some thermal properties at work that I didn't fully understand. Thx for the explanation and I'll be sure to pass the info along.

  • Try upside down and backwards. Turn the tool upside down, run the spindle in reverse, and cut from the shoulder to air. Much safer. Much faster.

  • Is it bad that I found myself thoroughly entranced while watching this?

  • @hollt693 no its not, i was too

  • cool video,,,, What is the cutter made out of ?

  • very soothing video. almost hypnotic.

    I've watched this several times, and it always leaves me feeling at peace.

    :)

  • reminds me of mechanical prototyping class :)

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  • bien travailler

  • skilled turner :)

  • Nice vid, what exactly were you making that needed a pillow block and a drill chuck?

  • '

    that is waste of time,,,

    use a DIE tool is faster than this lathe

  • @bestamerica This is how a machinist cuts threads no need for a die when you know how to run the lathe...

  • thx for taking the time to post this

  • I've always wondered how they do that! Thank you for posting. I am smart now.

  • my favourite part is where Schwarzenegger looks directly into the camera and asks "Got milk?"

    CLASSIC!!

  • Great job, great presentation of thread cuting. It is like mine.(isn't brake, isn't n.controll)just the two-hands and the routine. :)

  • using the brake.. just pull out and smash it in reverse, should have have 10 of these done in 2 minutes!

  • COOL and hypnotic!

  • wow. That cutter is scooping metal like a hardened honey.

  • buena demostracion

  • 2:20 IS THE BEST PART

  • @surplusdriller Don't watch then

  • @AAfilmproductions Yeah, Surplusdipstick watches the entire process then says the ending is best. I find the dimmest opininons when gathering ideas for something productive. It truly is asotunding the amount of self imposed dunbing down I see in the replys.

  • @sunreynyc You should visit more machining threads - there are some classic asshole comments throughout.

  • This would allow for not having to turn off the spindle to stop before running cutter into shoulder. Set cutter depth at the shoulder and engage the lead screw at the appropriate split nut index with spindle off , then turn on, to cut left to right.

  • alternate set up, turn the cutter upside down, adjust cutter height so cutting edge is back at center-line of part, start cutter at the shoulder, left in video, moving away from spindle to right, spindle needs to turn opposite direction from in this video as well as the lead screw , apron moves right ,away from spindle.

  • Thats actually pretty cool OLD SCHOOL threading. Looks like homemade tool. Great job and thx for posting

    motel

  • 504,000 views? holy sheep shiite

    I need some of whatever you've got

  • time for lunch. burger king!

  • wtf??? this is very old men

  • To me it doesn't look like he needed cutting oil, the chips weren't blue or anything so the metal was not over heating and the tool wasn't becoming discolored so he was fine and he might not have used it so you can actually see what it going on better,

  • I always use lotion. :D