the mach1 has a completly diffrent engine than the gt
The mustang gt has a 16 valve single over head cam cast iron motor
The mach1 has a 32 valve dual overhead cam aluminum block and heads motor
The only thing the gt motor has in common with the mach1 motor is they both displace 281 cubic inches other than that they are completely different motors
I also thought I would throw in the mach 1's body is mostly fiberglass it weighs 434 lbs less than a mustang 99-04 mustang gt
@04kb1svt Do you know the compression in the Mach1's? I am debating on either a 04 Mach1 or a 04 Cobra as my next purchase. Are the engines the same besides the super charger?
ok, dont treat me like a fool when i ask this question...im a jeep guy not a ford guy...whats the diff between the mach and the cobra? they both look the same. is one more prefomace inclined from the other?
They both share the same 4.6 liter V8 engine. The main difference is that the 03/04 cobra comes from the factory with a supercharger (390 hp at the crank) and the Mach is NA (305 hp at the crank)
I would prefer a Cobra. They both have a lot of potential though. The Cobra is the more rare of the 2 unless you want a convertible. It is also more expensive by an average of at least $5,000 from what I have seen. I prefer the look of the Cobra and the engine is already built to take forced induction. You can get 600 horsepower to the wheels and still daily drive the car. If you want a less expensive platform, go with the Mach 1 but I agree that the Cobra is better :)
The GT also uses the 4.6 liter V8 platform like the Mach and the Cobra. They made some changes to basically make the Mach breath better to get more horsepower (functional hood scoop, different cams, upgraded exhaust manifolds, etc.) The Mach has 305 break hp from the factory vs. the 260 break hp in the GT. They also made some changes to the suspension and gearing in the Mach. These are the performance differences with of course some differences in appearance.
he honestly isnt a mustang finatic.. the difference between a mach 1 and GT is FAR more than just engine. They have a better transmission, which became standard in GT's in 04, the suspension was different, it was the same suspension found on a 2001 bullit, 4 piston brakes, shaker hood, rounded body pannels, mach 1 c pillars, chin spoiler, the 4.6 is a cobra engine, just no M112 eaton s/c, the reason it makes more power than a GT is due to the quad cams and 4v heads. there was interior things too
@krenogin better transmission? the tr3650? I have a 97 Cobra with the same t45 that's found in 01 and before GTs and I've had no problems out of it. And my car is a nitrous car too. My buddy had an 03 gt with the same tranny you're referring to and it broke twice in 2 months. They're supposed to be better, but I dont think so..
@krenogin Yeah. Idk I haven't heard many good things about the ones in the 01-04 GTs. I've heard good things about the ones found in the 05+'s. A lot of people talk bad about the t-45, but I've beaten the hell out of mine.. still runs strong.
The way the IRS is setup on a Corvette makes it perfect for the track and drag racing. I think the Vette has a leaf spring turned upside down to make the IRS system on the vette so versatile.
if you go to my site on here you can find the two races with sound, sorry but you can hear both of them on two different videos don't worry it pisses me off cuz it does have sound
I wish i could see one every now and again but they really are kinda rare to see. The last time i saw one going down the highway was last summer and it was some old guy drivin all slow and shit. I want to see one just blastin down the highway just once..............
#4 The cobra has a completely built motor that can hold some ASININE numbers. I think its like 900+ before the manley rods start to wear out. The crank is rated at like 1300 (which is what the block can hold) The pistons are good for the same im pretty sure. What i was sayin was that if you were gonna mad the mach 1 anyway, way not get a cobra? The mach 1 has a heavy rear end, the crank is the only forged piece and only in a manual. It just doesnt click with me. By no means was i raggin it
i understand you weren't raggin the mach, i do agree that the cobra can produce some serious numbers from the factor, both are great cars and like i've said before i respect the cobra and love seeing one crusie down the highway.
yea the new shelbys are heavy as fuck. but then 200lbs= 2 tenths of a second off your stock ET. and the 120hp the shelby has over the SVT should make up the diff. really it should be close to a full second faster than the 03-04's.
Yes. And they have run high tens in Muscle Mustangs and Fast fords. Im talking about the 07-09's. The 2010 is a different car all around. Speed, handling, etc.
true a 03-04 cobra can hold 1000 hp on stock bottom end. but they already had a bottom end upgrade from the factory. i think the cobra was rated to hold at most 800hp safely. you could push it to 1000, but your taking a big risk of your engine blowing quick.
I wasnt raggin on the car or nothin. I like them too. Its just if i was gonna by one or the other, i would go ahead and get the cobra for the extra money cause #1 You already spent the money to get the cobra on mods for the mach 1 and can still only keep up with the cobra. #2 With only one mod, a cobra hits 700hp all day long. That is just absolutely ridiculous. #3 The cobra has IRS and is light and can keep up with rally cars around a track. Thats saying somthing for a muscle car.
ok..... that only proves the cobra is a better car though..... At the end of the day all a cobra owner has to do is get a kenne bell s/c and thats the end for basically anything the working class person can afford and for only around 30,000 for the car and s/c. Now that is the best "bang for the buck"
i understand what your sayin i do. but when you take both cars from stock and the price the mach is the better bang for the buck the 1 thing the 03-04 cobra has on a mach is the engine block that would cost me another 4200 to get one so i could push the 700hp
a mach is basical like a 01 cobra same motor same tranny the mach doesn't have the irs "which is better and leighter that the solid rear end." the plus side to the mach is that it has 3.55 gears. if you look at a mach 1 times mmff they got one running stock mach 1 running 13.1 mulp times, a stock 03cobra around 12.8 so for a few thousand of dollards cheaper you are almost keepin up with a s/c car
i understand its not in the 12's with the cobra but pretty damn close though, also the mach are 300+ less than a cobra cuz of the irs. to get down to the point i'm tryin to make, which ever car you get they are both great, i love the 03-04 cobra's and respect them for what they are.
they both are rare cars in both years, like mine you see in yellow they only made 768 of them. both years are the same. they are the best bang for the buck
Mach 1
DOHC Aluminum Block
Compression Ratio 10.1:1
lowdenzacry 1 month ago
I stopped watching after it said, "Sorry no sound"
omeezy713 6 months ago
is the mach 1's 4.6 dohc or sohc?
iandude454 10 months ago
@iandude454 Dual
MysticDMBherb 8 months ago
This is in WA right at the beginning of 512 just passed MAFB
igjoe2007 1 year ago
and how fast have you had this car?
utubeforwes 1 year ago
chase car was a mountain bike.
98whites10 2 years ago
nice no sound fuck your shitty video mustangs are shit anyways cant handle at all
MaltLiquor40oz 2 years ago
@MaltLiquor40oz Your name describes your dumbass comment perfectly. Drunken ignorance to the extreme.
TroutButter 1 year ago
the mach1 has a completly diffrent engine than the gt
The mustang gt has a 16 valve single over head cam cast iron motor
The mach1 has a 32 valve dual overhead cam aluminum block and heads motor
The only thing the gt motor has in common with the mach1 motor is they both displace 281 cubic inches other than that they are completely different motors
I also thought I would throw in the mach 1's body is mostly fiberglass it weighs 434 lbs less than a mustang 99-04 mustang gt
04kb1svt 2 years ago 3
@04kb1svt The 99-04 GT actually weighs less than a mach1.
blown06tc 1 year ago
@04kb1svt Do you know the compression in the Mach1's? I am debating on either a 04 Mach1 or a 04 Cobra as my next purchase. Are the engines the same besides the super charger?
41stuka 8 months ago
haha that shits in washington, raced many times on that freeway
2000SvtLightning 2 years ago
ok, dont treat me like a fool when i ask this question...im a jeep guy not a ford guy...whats the diff between the mach and the cobra? they both look the same. is one more prefomace inclined from the other?
93grandlmtdzj1 2 years ago
They both share the same 4.6 liter V8 engine. The main difference is that the 03/04 cobra comes from the factory with a supercharger (390 hp at the crank) and the Mach is NA (305 hp at the crank)
jdp2786 2 years ago
so pretty much, going with a cobra is the better choice?
93grandlmtdzj1 2 years ago
I would prefer a Cobra. They both have a lot of potential though. The Cobra is the more rare of the 2 unless you want a convertible. It is also more expensive by an average of at least $5,000 from what I have seen. I prefer the look of the Cobra and the engine is already built to take forced induction. You can get 600 horsepower to the wheels and still daily drive the car. If you want a less expensive platform, go with the Mach 1 but I agree that the Cobra is better :)
jdp2786 2 years ago
awesome.
thanks for the explanation.
and thanks for not treating me like a dummy. most ppl would have called me a fucking idiot.
really appretiate you taking your time to help me out.
93grandlmtdzj1 2 years ago
No problem man!
jdp2786 2 years ago
don't forget that the cobra has forged internals for 2003-04
willymywonka 2 years ago
Absolutely! Has to have the forged internals to handle the boost of course :)
jdp2786 2 years ago
exactly brother
willymywonka 2 years ago
So Jdp whats the difference between a Mach 1 Mustang and a GT Mustang?
crackerisntme 2 years ago
The GT also uses the 4.6 liter V8 platform like the Mach and the Cobra. They made some changes to basically make the Mach breath better to get more horsepower (functional hood scoop, different cams, upgraded exhaust manifolds, etc.) The Mach has 305 break hp from the factory vs. the 260 break hp in the GT. They also made some changes to the suspension and gearing in the Mach. These are the performance differences with of course some differences in appearance.
jdp2786 2 years ago
Alright cool thanks
crackerisntme 2 years ago
the Mach 1 and Cobras also have 32 valves where as the GT only has 16.
sickV607 2 years ago
he honestly isnt a mustang finatic.. the difference between a mach 1 and GT is FAR more than just engine. They have a better transmission, which became standard in GT's in 04, the suspension was different, it was the same suspension found on a 2001 bullit, 4 piston brakes, shaker hood, rounded body pannels, mach 1 c pillars, chin spoiler, the 4.6 is a cobra engine, just no M112 eaton s/c, the reason it makes more power than a GT is due to the quad cams and 4v heads. there was interior things too
krenogin 2 years ago
@krenogin better transmission? the tr3650? I have a 97 Cobra with the same t45 that's found in 01 and before GTs and I've had no problems out of it. And my car is a nitrous car too. My buddy had an 03 gt with the same tranny you're referring to and it broke twice in 2 months. They're supposed to be better, but I dont think so..
zackomac 2 years ago
well yeah their supposed to be better thats why they switched, but im unsure as i dont have one.
krenogin 2 years ago
@krenogin Yeah. Idk I haven't heard many good things about the ones in the 01-04 GTs. I've heard good things about the ones found in the 05+'s. A lot of people talk bad about the t-45, but I've beaten the hell out of mine.. still runs strong.
zackomac 2 years ago
functional hood scoop, different cams, upgraded exhaust manifolds,They also made some changes to the suspension and gearing in the Mach
lankyspanky666 2 years ago
awesome run! makes me want a wet nitrous kit for my mach =)
ReXLuvSeX 2 years ago
The way the IRS is setup on a Corvette makes it perfect for the track and drag racing. I think the Vette has a leaf spring turned upside down to make the IRS system on the vette so versatile.
JayGeePee1 2 years ago
Corvettes don't have IRS!
Abe4racing 2 years ago
if you go to my site on here you can find the two races with sound, sorry but you can hear both of them on two different videos don't worry it pisses me off cuz it does have sound
460hpmach1 2 years ago
good runs
redd7188 2 years ago
mustang vs mustang huh? win-win situations rule haha =P
svtcobra1992 2 years ago
I wish i could see one every now and again but they really are kinda rare to see. The last time i saw one going down the highway was last summer and it was some old guy drivin all slow and shit. I want to see one just blastin down the highway just once..............
Shmealambo 3 years ago
#4 The cobra has a completely built motor that can hold some ASININE numbers. I think its like 900+ before the manley rods start to wear out. The crank is rated at like 1300 (which is what the block can hold) The pistons are good for the same im pretty sure. What i was sayin was that if you were gonna mad the mach 1 anyway, way not get a cobra? The mach 1 has a heavy rear end, the crank is the only forged piece and only in a manual. It just doesnt click with me. By no means was i raggin it
Shmealambo 3 years ago
i understand you weren't raggin the mach, i do agree that the cobra can produce some serious numbers from the factor, both are great cars and like i've said before i respect the cobra and love seeing one crusie down the highway.
460hpmach1 3 years ago
my sons mach/ eaton vs o8 zo6 check vid "mach1 vs c6 zo6"
mach1gsxr 3 years ago
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mach1gsxr 3 years ago
Actually the IRS is heavier on the cobra, plus Solid axle is way better for drag racing, too much wheel hop with the irs.
cooldbz12 2 years ago 4
then why does a 03/04 IRS cobra run the same or faster times then the shelby 500 kr with the live rear axle
SAtownZ28 2 years ago
Because it is about 200lbs lighter
bgabbs69 2 years ago
yea the new shelbys are heavy as fuck. but then 200lbs= 2 tenths of a second off your stock ET. and the 120hp the shelby has over the SVT should make up the diff. really it should be close to a full second faster than the 03-04's.
SAtownZ28 2 years ago
Not really. Most stock 03-04 cobra were underrated making 425 and up at the crank not 390.
bgabbs69 2 years ago
yea i know. 03-04 made 420hp. the gt500Kr has 540hp. so there is a 120hp diff.
SAtownZ28 2 years ago
Yes. And they have run high tens in Muscle Mustangs and Fast fords. Im talking about the 07-09's. The 2010 is a different car all around. Speed, handling, etc.
bgabbs69 2 years ago
o ok. i got ya. i see where your coming from.
SAtownZ28 2 years ago
this is true, having IRS is only good for track not for drag racing
460hpmach1 2 years ago
600 seems to be the point of engine failture for stock bottom cobra motors
steeda049 2 years ago
you are wrong the 03-04s hold 1000 check any turbod cobra to see.
pokersuperstar 2 years ago
I can gaurantee that a 1000 hp car doesnt have the stock bottom end.
steeda049 2 years ago
and if it does someone is retarded
cadeMFjohnson 2 years ago
true a 03-04 cobra can hold 1000 hp on stock bottom end. but they already had a bottom end upgrade from the factory. i think the cobra was rated to hold at most 800hp safely. you could push it to 1000, but your taking a big risk of your engine blowing quick.
SAtownZ28 2 years ago
I wasnt raggin on the car or nothin. I like them too. Its just if i was gonna by one or the other, i would go ahead and get the cobra for the extra money cause #1 You already spent the money to get the cobra on mods for the mach 1 and can still only keep up with the cobra. #2 With only one mod, a cobra hits 700hp all day long. That is just absolutely ridiculous. #3 The cobra has IRS and is light and can keep up with rally cars around a track. Thats saying somthing for a muscle car.
Shmealambo 3 years ago
ok..... that only proves the cobra is a better car though..... At the end of the day all a cobra owner has to do is get a kenne bell s/c and thats the end for basically anything the working class person can afford and for only around 30,000 for the car and s/c. Now that is the best "bang for the buck"
Shmealambo 3 years ago
i understand what your sayin i do. but when you take both cars from stock and the price the mach is the better bang for the buck the 1 thing the 03-04 cobra has on a mach is the engine block that would cost me another 4200 to get one so i could push the 700hp
460hpmach1 3 years ago
a mach is basical like a 01 cobra same motor same tranny the mach doesn't have the irs "which is better and leighter that the solid rear end." the plus side to the mach is that it has 3.55 gears. if you look at a mach 1 times mmff they got one running stock mach 1 running 13.1 mulp times, a stock 03cobra around 12.8 so for a few thousand of dollards cheaper you are almost keepin up with a s/c car
460hpmach1 3 years ago
i understand its not in the 12's with the cobra but pretty damn close though, also the mach are 300+ less than a cobra cuz of the irs. to get down to the point i'm tryin to make, which ever car you get they are both great, i love the 03-04 cobra's and respect them for what they are.
460hpmach1 3 years ago
mmmmmm, nitrous. The cobra should run some too...
Shmealambo 3 years ago
the reason i used nitrous was cuz the cobra already comes with a s/c, i needed alittle help, hope you can understand.
460hpmach1 3 years ago
i thought 2003 was the ONLY year the mach 1 was reintroduced...........
lewsscroos 3 years ago
nope 03 and 04
danielbmiller15 3 years ago
arent 04 a lil more rare though??
spdkilzasoundsuck 3 years ago
I own a 2004 Mach1.
lllTechniqlll 3 years ago
kool man my mother ownes an 2003 mach 1 i love that car
spdkilzasoundsuck 3 years ago
they both are rare cars in both years, like mine you see in yellow they only made 768 of them. both years are the same. they are the best bang for the buck
460hpmach1 3 years ago
yeah my mother has a white one with black stripe
spdkilzasoundsuck 3 years ago
both cars are badass
1Pueblito 3 years ago
Sure would like some sound so i could hear what dave's car sounds like! Its a pretty badass stang.
Heston83 3 years ago