@redwhitedude gook koreans claim to be related to Manchu yet they have no evidence for it LOL! what losers. Redwhitedude watch out for Ghostrider45 he is a fag that claims Korea=Jin and is an advocate for manchu=Korean.
@jeancwk The majority of Manchus might as well be Han Chinese. Its not irregular to state that some were absorbed into China and some into the Korean peninsular polities. Let's not retroject modern constructs. Gaoguli, Goguryeo. Its not Korean or Chinese. Don't be tamed by your nations.
@lybio Yearh, really 11 million manchus and the number of speakers you can count with your fingers. Sad really. At this rate they are going to blend in to the han majority.
all you people who are not Manchurian will never understand, we Manchurians considered ourselves as pround Chinese, one group of a larger family. people who tried to bring conflicts and tensions here are just pure evil!! our ancestors made mistakes and ruined China, however it is history no one can ever change it, why u guys still trying to bash our own people, if Japan ever touch our land again, i am sure all of us will kick their asses out of China, BY辽宁爷们，去你妈B搞分裂和日本鬼子我们满人都杀！！！
@Mrasianpopmusic Since when did we ruin china? Letting opium come in n poison the entire nation so that the whole nation will be enslaved by the westerner is wrong ? You called your self a manchurian ? Since when did the blood of our ancestors became void ? China was most prosperous under Manju and was one of this wealthiest empire ever existed and where in that did you call ruined? We opened up china so that all religions may come in and that every race,tribe,clans may live in peace.its wrong?
@f99y today, Chinese is just the term for the people who are living in china, indians is the term for the people who are living in india, so on, asian is a term for the people who are living in asia, even though you are a white or black
oh common now people...embrace the asian culture. Why bash our own people. don't we have enough from westerners. During ancient time certain race of people did certain things to deprive eachother. But we can't say that no one else was like that. It was survival of the fittest. The Mongols through Genghis Khan by being conquering the most land. At least he made name for us in history! Chinese cultures are probably one of the most beautiful culture. just saying
No ideal why when there's talk of manjus, political trolls always chime in...and the whole blame Japan thing is lame, ok so the PLA uses it for their hatefest in preparation for the invasion of Japan, like everyone doesn't know it by now...Real genuises!
Why is there so much hate for a beautiful song? I don't know what kind of pride everyone have at the end we are all Asians. There is really no such thing a pure blood anything after so many years of ruling over each other. literally china consist of many different ethic groups and Vietnam, korea and Japanese all blood connected with china. I'm not saying china is the center of it all but still over thousands of years china have gain many territories and united large amount of ethnic groups. We
Pathetic no mannered gooks get a life and stop trolling around,you bad smell is disturbing other youtube audience! I am disgusted by the bad manners of koreans and vietnamese gooks!!!!!!!
@BATURUSHA WE DEFEATED MONGOLS. WE FUCKED YOU MANCHU BARBARIANS. WE SLAUGHTERED THE FRENCHS. WE KICK YANKEES' ASS. WE'VE WON EVERY SINGLE WAR WE INVOLVED. What have you manchu barbarians ever done beyond raping the chinks??? Hahahahahahahaha the short-dicked Manchu barbarians have no pride, Manchu old men cannot speak Manchu, Manchu youngsters claim to be chinese. What kind of losers are you??? Hahahahahahahhaahaha.
The Manchus claim themselves to be Chinese. HOW ARE THEY CHINESE??? Their ancestors raped and slaughtered chinks like pigs, then chinks rebelled and slaughtered them like pigs. Manchu is just an ethnic minority in China nothing more nothing less. Have some self-respects you inferior Manchu animals.
I believe koreans and manchus are true siblings. Why? Well they are both ugly and could not survive without doing plastic surgeries. But in my opinion, Manchus are truely scum at the bottom of the barrels. Manchus have no pride, no root, no even country. Manchus claim themselves to be chinese eventhough mister Sun Yat Sen once wanted to wipe off their barbarian race. Hahahahahaha poor the inferior manchu animals.
00:30-00:35 what does "Jalan-i sidende" mean? Does it mean "at the end of the horizon"?
I understand the following part "mini sanggiyan alin bi", because in Mongolian we would also say "minii tsagaan aulan bii", meaning "there is my white mountain".
Umm i'm actually a Manchu and my grandparents are really obsessed with this pure blooded thing and my grandpa knows how to speak manchu and yeah this guy's pronounciation sux
GB: Manchu culture and the Turkic culture is very similar. Our history and our language is one with them. Hello from Turkey to all of the Hun People and especially to Manchu.
RU: Маньчжурской культуры и культуры тюркских очень похожи. Наша история и наш язык один с ними. Привет из Турции для всех Хун народа и особенно для Манчжурии.
Gooks AKA koreans are all fucking lairs. They are super ugly people and not related to chinese people or japanese people. Most koreans get plastic surgeries cause they know they need it badly.
hmmm...i was told that the manchu ethnic was largely assimulated into the han chinese culture and identity. Also that the manchu language is almost extinct. How sad.
@orionpirates it is sad and i didn't say that the Han Chinese commited genocide against the Manchus, i sadi that much of their culture is lost along with their language. I didn't make it sound like anything like anything i didn't say.
@YohanCn Wow. Are you a 50 cent retard? The manchurians is the only Chinese minority who cannot use their own names in 党-China. They lost their language because the communist party were afraid of their cultural identity, which is understandable considering they were the last dynasty.
@kattracka although i agree communists do not encourage cultural variety. but i am sure their language has nothing to do with communist party, i know you hate communists, but u still better use accurate imformation, do some research about Manchurian language, u will know why they choose to adopt "our" language, which is "MANDARIN" (what a coincident?), i am a Manchurian and our ancestors' language contribute a lot to the language Mandarin which is spoken by 90% people in China!
The Chinese from this region say that the names of cities in heilongjiang come from manchu. Thats why they have "too many" sylables, and the contanstant "er" sound. I lived in a city called qiqiha'er, near laha'er about 5 hours from ha'erbin. Also, just for interest. there is a very very strong russian influence in this part of the country. When i was there i needed to read russian and chinese just to get around. The language i spoke was a mix of mandarin, manchu, mongol, daur and russian.
@youwantmetoeatwhat I am not sure but Qiqikar is rather Dagur or Mongolian language. Qiqeg is flower in Mongolian. In Qing period in Western Manjuria was more Mongolian than Eastern "Tunguzic" Manjuria. Iheaobaogaha is surely Ih Oboo Gajar, other names like: Erdaohe, Baojiatong, Wujimu Sagacha, Burigede Wubao etc. are also Mongolian.
Dagur language itself is a mix of ancient Mongolian and Manju.
Mandarin haven't been spoken before Qing Empire..it was like a dialect that mixed between Altaic language and Chinese language. People who first spoke the language called liao that lived in Lower part of Northern China.
Manchu and Mandarin are NOT the same language. Mandarin belongs to the Sino-Tibetan language, while Manchu is a Tunguistic language. Mandarin usually is SVO, while Manchu is usually SOV.
@absjaris SVO= Subject-Verb-Object He hits her. 'He' is the subject of the sentence 'hits' is the verb and 'she' is the object which recieves the verb. SOV= Subject-Object-Verb=\ The Police that man arrests. The Police is the subject that man (the same violent arsehole from sentence one) is the object recieving the action from the verb 'arrests'. Some languages use one while other languages use the other to construct sentences. This is how languages are seperated by linguists.
about using the police the examples on making sentences. I have no issues or problem with chinese government or her security forces. but most poeple in the so-called "democratic" world have negative views on your country's police force. I'd say most westerners, particularly Americans would be shocked or intimidated after reading our conversation like this. XD
BTW, thanks for the explanation you gave to me earlier. I learned something new.
@absjaris Actually, I think it is perfectly just- the man beats his wife, should he not be arrested? But, that strays too far from the point of the original post. You are welcome, sir of madam, but, unfortunately, I was quite wrong on one point- actually, there can be languages that uses other word orders, like OSV, VSO, VOS, &c. so, basically, if you see any strange combination of the letters 'S', 'O', and 'V', and the subject of the paper is about language, then just keep what I said in mind.
There are different types of Madarin,majority of those who live in overseas Chinatowns are southern people such as the Cantonese,so they speak with southern accent which is different from the official Mandarin standard(Northern accent)
he's singing in both manchurian and mandarin. the parts where the lyrics are romanised at the bottom and in manchurian text on the side are when he's singing/speaking in manchurian, and the part where it's chinese text both on the bottom and the side are in mandarin. keep in mind there are different mandarin dialects, so maybe that's why it sounds different to you ^^
never. I am not Manchu nor Chinese, but I am a linguist who specializes in eastern languages. Manchu is in a a Tungusic language whereas Mandarin is a Sino-Tibetan language. So you see, they are totally different languages each with their very own histories and own separate developments.
See the problem I have with your answer (which is a common answer) is that, you guys base your answer clearly on what han-chinese and Mao established. Also you guys disregard the last Kingdom of China which was ruled by Manchus (Qing). Which the Manchus brought their language and made it official. So I am convinced Mandarin is originally Manchu considering that state went on for hundreds of years. But who am I? Your the so called "EXPERT"
Critiquevirtuoso, the way things go online is percieved differently according to the individual. I was not antagonistic, that is the way you percieved it. Your probably going off about my last sentence calling you the expert, I will apologize. I'm tired of dealing with keyboard warriors (not saying its you, its you calling me "dickhead", you wouldn't say that face to face). Anybody can misinterpret, a person can say your answer wasn't an answer but a dogmatic one. But I know it wasn't You get it
So Lets go back to the start, and let this behind us. You stating that your a "linguist" specializing in eastern languages, and then strongly asert that it is not madarin (manchu), kinda threw me off, so that is why my response was as so, so once again I apologize if I affended you. Have a great one.
And, Manchu never made their language offical in China, even in Qing Dynasty. Noble Manchu kids had to learn both Mandarin and Manchu. Even more, as time went by, many of them were used to speaking Mandarin and forgot their mother tongue.
It is easy to say the kids learn mandarin and forgot their mother tongue, but where is your sources? Where is your source that Mandarin existed as a Han Chinese language? Can you point out that story in a Chinese text? I have resources to look it up if you pin point that to me.
Ok well if you have the sources give them to me. Instead of blabbering on. Not trying to be rude, I'm just looking for solid evidence. I've studied Far East Asian History, and I have access to historic text translated into english from my Univ. Library, so give me not a professor commentary, but actual ancient textual evidence.
My so called "opinion" is based on history solely, because language structures whether being similar or not really doesn't matter greatly to say there is an ethnic tie. For example Korean and Japanese is the most similar compared to other asian nations when it comes to grammatical structures, but two different people or different origins. Manchu's are culturally very mixed and like this video says it is Manchusky/sib (siberian typs?). So I'm here it has more of an Altaic/Siberian mix into this.
Manchu state is Jin and Qing. We must ask ourselves, looking at CHina now, and looking at China just 100 years ago, what is the difference? How long did Qing dynasty rule China? If you look at the map of mandarin spoken areas, the places around the capital is big compare to the rest of the regions of China.
then you better state which section of chinese you are talking about, because cantonese has abslutely nothing to do with manchu and so is modern mandarin
Did you ever study history? GO look it up, go to your local library. And see the history of Manchu people, Han chinese people, and you can make your decision based on that. You don't even state your proper point, and ask for my sources? What sources of what topic, be specific? Your just trying to win a debate LOL
i assume you are expert of manchu language, then would you please cite some sources from Chinese or English so we can take look at it together? and debate? so i can win? lmao
Your not even thinking through this. When are you going to site sources that Mandarin is purely "HAN CHINESE"? You get my point? My argument is look at history. If Qing dynasty which you said was Manchu definately rulled China for around 400 years and you still think Mandarin is ethnically Han? You see my argument here?
Wernded, dude please make no mistakes about my statements, they may seem like I'm upholding an answer but I'm a seeker myself. Like the guy I had an argument with (megp30) don't assert my statements as the truth, its still a theory. Like you said Mandarin has 800 years, well 800 years ago was the Jin dynasty which is Manchu history. You see my point? I don't mean to affend anyone, just sharing my theories, but I'm open to any facts as well.
800 years ago, it was the Ming or the end of the Yuan dynasty. It is unlikely there will be any influence from the Manchu. It is widely known that there is strong chinese cultural influence to the people in the north, even the Eskimos. So there are bound to be some similiarities. You r right in that cantonese is a much older variant of the chinese language than mandarin.
800 years ago was still Jin dynasty. Yuan and Ming came later, but anyways you are right the cultural influences from the middle kingdom was huge to all surrounding nations because of Sino-centrism. Nice talking to you!
So to answer your question if I can gives examples, all I can give you is history, who rulled where and when, and how long, the theory is based on that, but not important. But I donot believe specifically the Chinese "HAN" people's language is Mandarin, probably more Cantonese, but like I said look at the history and the periods the empires rulled.
The original language is not cantonese (guangdonghua). It is definitely mandarin(putonghua).
The cantonese dialect strongly derived from mandarin in both respective of alphabets and pronounciation. Even majority of korean words also derived from mandarin.
i love this song, i am a Manchurian.
tudoudegf 1 week ago 4
@tudoudegf 满洲万岁
McRoberts1000 2 days ago 2
i'm vietnamese but this song is so good but i cant understand
anyone can translate it??
binhan200892 3 weeks ago
There is no IF in history,but i wish Manchuria is still remain independence state like Mongolia.
북방민족이여 영원하리라!
kwonneon 1 month ago 19
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you're an idiot it was manchuria that took over china.
doggyboyboy 3 weeks ago
@kwonneon 맞아요,그런대, 대한민죽 과 만주민죽 는 진구 아닙니까??
we were all from baek du san
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GOD I HATE THE MANCHU SO MUCH!!!!!! THEY SHOULD ALL BE SYSTEMATICALLY WIPED OUT BY THE CHINESE GOV!!!!
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GOD I HATE THE MANCHU SO MUCH!!!!!! THEY SHOULD ALL BE SYSTEMATICALLY WIPED OUT BY THE CHINESE GOV!!!!
Shovelheaded666 1 month ago
GOD I HATE THE MANCHU SO MUCH!!!!!! THEY SHOULD ALL BE SYSTEMATICALLY WIPED OUT BY THE CHINESE GOV!!!!
Shovelheaded666 1 month ago
HAHAHA Stupid unsuccesful Manchus, Turkic Gokturk Empire conquered Manchuria and then sold Manchuria to the Chinks HAHAHAHA.
immortaltendency 1 month ago
Manchu = 8 Banner system = the Jurchen + the Mongols + the Han. Where is the Koreans?
Fk off! shameless gooks want to leech off other people's achievements, go watch your mentally retarded k-pops
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@hmiaosys Dude!!!! As a Chinese!!! All I can say is FUCK THE MANCHUS!! All I can say is that I wish the worst for them!
Shovelheaded666 1 month ago
@hmiaosys / 쪽바리?
kwonneon 1 week ago
Manchurian and Korean are the same ethnic, due to lifesylr difference then we got seperated
McRoberts1000 2 months ago 4
@McRoberts1000 *lifestyle
McRoberts1000 2 months ago
@McRoberts1000 There people who claim this but I am curious as to what you based this one.
redwhitedude 2 months ago
@redwhitedude gook koreans claim to be related to Manchu yet they have no evidence for it LOL! what losers. Redwhitedude watch out for Ghostrider45 he is a fag that claims Korea=Jin and is an advocate for manchu=Korean.
DragonOfQin 2 months ago
@DragonOfQin I don't make those claims and those people are not representative of Koreans.
redwhitedude 2 months ago
@McRoberts1000 bullcrap shameless korean nationalists
hmiaosys 1 month ago
@McRoberts1000 LOL! Why Koreans want to be Manchus? No pride?
DragonOfQin 1 month ago
@McRoberts1000 if manchu and korean are of the same ethnic then my ass and your face are the same.
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@jeancwk The majority of Manchus might as well be Han Chinese. Its not irregular to state that some were absorbed into China and some into the Korean peninsular polities. Let's not retroject modern constructs. Gaoguli, Goguryeo. Its not Korean or Chinese. Don't be tamed by your nations.
Gyopo 1 month ago
Absolutely beautiful song, it's nice to hear it sung in Chinese too, awesome. Very beautiful song, thank you for posting it.
ilovewiki 2 months ago 23
I'm korean but I'm interested in learning some manchu.
DeusSoli92 3 months ago 8
@DeusSoli92 are you ethnic korean from China?
realtruekorean 3 months ago
:OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO i'm learning manchu ^_^ i'm korean-american.
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phr4nk3rd00d13 4 months ago
It is so sad that Manchurian people are forgetting their own language steadically :-(
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@lybio Yearh, really 11 million manchus and the number of speakers you can count with your fingers. Sad really. At this rate they are going to blend in to the han majority.
redwhitedude 2 months ago
all you people who are not Manchurian will never understand, we Manchurians considered ourselves as pround Chinese, one group of a larger family. people who tried to bring conflicts and tensions here are just pure evil!! our ancestors made mistakes and ruined China, however it is history no one can ever change it, why u guys still trying to bash our own people, if Japan ever touch our land again, i am sure all of us will kick their asses out of China, BY辽宁爷们，去你妈B搞分裂和日本鬼子我们满人都杀！！！
Mrasianpopmusic 5 months ago
@Mrasianpopmusic Since when did we ruin china? Letting opium come in n poison the entire nation so that the whole nation will be enslaved by the westerner is wrong ? You called your self a manchurian ? Since when did the blood of our ancestors became void ? China was most prosperous under Manju and was one of this wealthiest empire ever existed and where in that did you call ruined? We opened up china so that all religions may come in and that every race,tribe,clans may live in peace.its wrong?
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Mrasianpopmusic 5 months ago
Nice discovery for the belgian people I'm ,thx .
ARANE2009 5 months ago
很好听
simoninsingapore 5 months ago
I really sorry that manju gisun(language) is almost banishing now
meulzari 6 months ago
Fuck all Tatars!
alwaysbehumble 7 months ago
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@f99y today, Chinese is just the term for the people who are living in china, indians is the term for the people who are living in india, so on, asian is a term for the people who are living in asia, even though you are a white or black
peaceanddevelop 7 months ago
oh common now people...embrace the asian culture. Why bash our own people. don't we have enough from westerners. During ancient time certain race of people did certain things to deprive eachother. But we can't say that no one else was like that. It was survival of the fittest. The Mongols through Genghis Khan by being conquering the most land. At least he made name for us in history! Chinese cultures are probably one of the most beautiful culture. just saying
illmatic86 8 months ago
The name of the singer is Sung Sidung (Akxan).
yourblondangel 9 months ago
No ideal why when there's talk of manjus, political trolls always chime in...and the whole blame Japan thing is lame, ok so the PLA uses it for their hatefest in preparation for the invasion of Japan, like everyone doesn't know it by now...Real genuises!
HayabusaSenToTai 9 months ago
our family live in Manchurai,my father has a manchu friend.
i dont think there is conflicts between Han and Manchu.
perhaps Manchu are much pround of thier histroy,thats all.
zqdz123 9 months ago
A Fact : Manchurian is the feud of Han.
事實:滿族是漢族的世仇.
fy6 9 months ago
@fy6 i still like manchu much more than taiwanese.
iMisogynist 9 months ago
@fy6 哈哈,汉族是南蛮子(伪汉族)的世仇
masterofbeheading 3 months ago
@masterofbeheading
This is the most accurate statement that the comtemporary Han majority don't understand.
glorycontinent 3 months ago
We are all connected even if we are divided by a nation.
CrimsonEclipse 9 months ago
Why is there so much hate for a beautiful song? I don't know what kind of pride everyone have at the end we are all Asians. There is really no such thing a pure blood anything after so many years of ruling over each other. literally china consist of many different ethic groups and Vietnam, korea and Japanese all blood connected with china. I'm not saying china is the center of it all but still over thousands of years china have gain many territories and united large amount of ethnic groups. We
CrimsonEclipse 9 months ago
My grandpa speaks this, and my dad is still full blood Manchu, but we changed our last name to Sun because of the Cultural Revolution
bowenco 9 months ago
滿族人。
changchangqian 10 months ago
manchu is NOT Chinase
KoreaVANKChannel 1 year ago
Pathetic lousy viets and kors low life losers GET OUT OF HERE!!!!!
Heroisting 1 year ago
Pathetic no mannered gooks get a life and stop trolling around,you bad smell is disturbing other youtube audience! I am disgusted by the bad manners of koreans and vietnamese gooks!!!!!!!
Heroisting 1 year ago
@BATURUSHA <-----------monkey go and grow a dick hahaha and shove a bananna up your momma's stinky hairy ass!!! lmao rofl hahahaha
YanZhao8 1 year ago
@BATURUSHA WE DEFEATED MONGOLS. WE FUCKED YOU MANCHU BARBARIANS. WE SLAUGHTERED THE FRENCHS. WE KICK YANKEES' ASS. WE'VE WON EVERY SINGLE WAR WE INVOLVED. What have you manchu barbarians ever done beyond raping the chinks??? Hahahahahahahaha the short-dicked Manchu barbarians have no pride, Manchu old men cannot speak Manchu, Manchu youngsters claim to be chinese. What kind of losers are you??? Hahahahahahahhaahaha.
TheGreatNguyen 1 year ago
The Manchus claim themselves to be Chinese. HOW ARE THEY CHINESE??? Their ancestors raped and slaughtered chinks like pigs, then chinks rebelled and slaughtered them like pigs. Manchu is just an ethnic minority in China nothing more nothing less. Have some self-respects you inferior Manchu animals.
TheGreatNguyen 1 year ago
I believe koreans and manchus are true siblings. Why? Well they are both ugly and could not survive without doing plastic surgeries. But in my opinion, Manchus are truely scum at the bottom of the barrels. Manchus have no pride, no root, no even country. Manchus claim themselves to be chinese eventhough mister Sun Yat Sen once wanted to wipe off their barbarian race. Hahahahahaha poor the inferior manchu animals.
TheGreatNguyen 1 year ago
@TheGreatNguyen Why do you even dislike Koreans? As a Viet you have no reason right?
everstarshanghai 10 months ago
혹룡강물과 백두산이 마르고 닪도록 하느님이 보우하사 만주 만세!!
HeiligesReich2 1 year ago
@HeiligesReich2 새하얀 오름을 바라보는 겨례의 태도가 다를 바 없다..
168arkady 1 year ago
@168arkady 나는 당신의 한국어를 이해할 수 없다.
더 많은 한자어를 쓰세요.
HeiligesReich2 1 year ago
00:30-00:35 what does "Jalan-i sidende" mean? Does it mean "at the end of the horizon"?
I understand the following part "mini sanggiyan alin bi", because in Mongolian we would also say "minii tsagaan aulan bii", meaning "there is my white mountain".
newtonop 1 year ago
only a handful still read and speak pure manchu. once a great empire is gone. sigh...
AnjuABCDE 1 year ago
Wow I see the Manchu influence on most North Chinese dialects. A lot of sounds are very similar between Mandarin and Manchu.
dsong2006 1 year ago
漢人把满語發揚光大
cswtds 1 year ago
fuck Manchu!
the most murderous people ever existing on Earth!!
alwaysbehumble 1 year ago
is this xibe or manju?
yearof07 1 year ago
@yearof07 This is Manchu
YohanCn 1 year ago
well, mandarin is not pure Han language~~
Its a mixture of Manchu and Hanyu( as my opinion )
Well this is a great songs~
bluetears90 1 year ago
Is this sang with a Mandarin accent or does Manchu have a lot of common sounds with Mandarin?
dsong2006 1 year ago
mongol and manchu is geneticaly brothers. there are language is near!
Galdankhaan 1 year ago
Umm i'm actually a Manchu and my grandparents are really obsessed with this pure blooded thing and my grandpa knows how to speak manchu and yeah this guy's pronounciation sux
bowenco 1 year ago
koreans are the biggest lairs on planet earth.
supermodelbrazil 1 year ago
manchus aren't korean. Why koreans tell so many lies?????
supermodelbrazil 1 year ago
nice song. I like a lot. coz i'm mix with munchu. i always proud of it. MONGOLIA AND MANCHU FOREVER.
MrBatsko 1 year ago
ᠪᠩ ᡠᠴᡠᠠ ᠴᡞᡥᡰᠯᡰᠮᠪᠩ
Oh man! I spent two days looking for a Mnchu keyboard layout and the one I got doesn't work properly.
Anyway, what I wanted to say is:
Bi ucun be cihalambi.
Mujangga 1 year ago
@Mujangga It rendered correctly. Go ahead.
YohanCn 6 months ago
GB: Manchu culture and the Turkic culture is very similar. Our history and our language is one with them. Hello from Turkey to all of the Hun People and especially to Manchu.
RU: Маньчжурской культуры и культуры тюркских очень похожи. Наша история и наш язык один с ними. Привет из Турции для всех Хун народа и особенно для Манчжурии.
JP: 満州の文化とトルコの文化は非常に似ています。私たちの歴史と私たちの言語は、それらの1つです。こんにちは、トルコからのすべてのフンの人々と満州、特にする。
yaralikurt69 1 year ago
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guzel mi guzel....
absjaris 1 year ago
kinda sounds like mongolian
bilguitei 1 year ago
들으니 소름이 돋는다.. 좋다
168arkady 1 year ago
sound s like mongolian language
baatarsansar 1 year ago
@baatarsansar , it does not sound like mongolian at all.
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baatarsansar 1 year ago
manchu is so awesome it sounds like a mix of japanese swahili and korean
vulturedot3x3 1 year ago
@vulturedot3x3 , it does not. sound like korean at all. It sound like mandarin and manchu in one.
supermodelbrazil 1 year ago
anyone know where I can get the pinyin lyrics for the mandarin parts of the song? I really love this song
kaze0080 1 year ago
@kaze0080 Here they are:
tiāndì zhījiān yǒu wǒde chángbáishān,
báishān zhī cè bēnliú wǒde hēilóngjiāng,
shānshuǐ zhījiān qínláo dí rénmen dài dài chéngzhǎng,
gùxiàng dí ēn dé hòurén yǒng bù wàng.
tiāndì zhījiān yǒu wǒde chángbáishān,
báishān zhī cè bēnliú wǒde hēilóngjiāng,
yīngxióng dí hòudài zěn néng jiāng gùxiàng yíwàng,
yuàn wǒ jiāxiāng shānshuǐ yǒng mián cháng.
sjheiss 1 year ago
@sjheiss
thanks for posting the pinyin. makes my mandarin becoming even better
absjaris 1 year ago
what "inu, ainu" mean in their language??
i heard these words few times in the song.
ayanuhito 1 year ago
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doogiinoohuu 1 year ago
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Gooks AKA koreans are all fucking lairs. They are super ugly people and not related to chinese people or japanese people. Most koreans get plastic surgeries cause they know they need it badly.
TyraBanksNo1 2 years ago
滿洲人沒有"家鄉"的概念是抄漢人的。滿人are nomadic
hliu376 2 years ago
@hliu376
很有意思。
ayanuhito 1 year ago
hmmm...i was told that the manchu ethnic was largely assimulated into the han chinese culture and identity. Also that the manchu language is almost extinct. How sad.
flowerdancer07 2 years ago
@flowerdancer07 How is it sad? The Manchu are still alive today. You're making it sound that the Han Chinese committed genocide against the Manchu.
orionpirates 1 year ago
@orionpirates it is sad and i didn't say that the Han Chinese commited genocide against the Manchus, i sadi that much of their culture is lost along with their language. I didn't make it sound like anything like anything i didn't say.
flowerdancer07 1 year ago
@flowerdancer07
european people also cause cause lots of culture and language to become extinct
eg.north&southamerica oceania siberia etc
makotodenka 1 year ago
@orionpirates No, Japanese people commited genocide against the Manchus, while Han Chinese recovered it.
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In this video a native speaker of Manchu will tell you what happened in Japanese domination:
watch?v=1wI90ft91Ps
«Manchu people lost their mother tongue under Japanese occupiation»
YohanCn 1 year ago
@orionpirates No, Japanese people commited genocide against the Manchus, while Han Chinese recovered it.
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In this video a native speaker of Manchu will tell you what happened in Japanese domination:
watch?v=1wI90ft91Ps
«Manchu people lost their mother tongue under Japanese occupiation»
YohanCn 1 year ago 9
@YohanCn Wow. Are you a 50 cent retard? The manchurians is the only Chinese minority who cannot use their own names in 党-China. They lost their language because the communist party were afraid of their cultural identity, which is understandable considering they were the last dynasty.
kattracka 9 months ago
@kattracka although i agree communists do not encourage cultural variety. but i am sure their language has nothing to do with communist party, i know you hate communists, but u still better use accurate imformation, do some research about Manchurian language, u will know why they choose to adopt "our" language, which is "MANDARIN" (what a coincident?), i am a Manchurian and our ancestors' language contribute a lot to the language Mandarin which is spoken by 90% people in China!
Mrasianpopmusic 5 months ago
The Chinese from this region say that the names of cities in heilongjiang come from manchu. Thats why they have "too many" sylables, and the contanstant "er" sound. I lived in a city called qiqiha'er, near laha'er about 5 hours from ha'erbin. Also, just for interest. there is a very very strong russian influence in this part of the country. When i was there i needed to read russian and chinese just to get around. The language i spoke was a mix of mandarin, manchu, mongol, daur and russian.
youwantmetoeatwhat 2 years ago
@youwantmetoeatwhat I am not sure but Qiqikar is rather Dagur or Mongolian language. Qiqeg is flower in Mongolian. In Qing period in Western Manjuria was more Mongolian than Eastern "Tunguzic" Manjuria. Iheaobaogaha is surely Ih Oboo Gajar, other names like: Erdaohe, Baojiatong, Wujimu Sagacha, Burigede Wubao etc. are also Mongolian.
Dagur language itself is a mix of ancient Mongolian and Manju.
kaxiag 1 year ago
This guy sounds like he is definitely singing Manchu with a Chinese accent. I always wonder what Manchu sounds like by a true native speaker...
irubjaejoong 2 years ago
Is that Lake Tianchi in the first picture in this video?
absjaris 2 years ago
この歌が好きです。満州語の文字がモンゴル文字とほとんど一緒ですね。読み方も一緒です。意味だけが分からない部分あります。
ALTANSUMBUR 2 years ago 5
ereci julesi yaya niyalma muse gurun i da manju sere gebu be hvla.
ManjuSu 2 years ago
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Meulsari 2 years ago
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@ManjuSu
Do you say in manju gusun
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""From now, to all people I'll name foundation of our country 'manju'
Meulsari 2 years ago
Great job in uploading this
ManjuSu 2 years ago
Mandarin haven't been spoken before Qing Empire..it was like a dialect that mixed between Altaic language and Chinese language. People who first spoke the language called liao that lived in Lower part of Northern China.
shonenheart20 2 years ago
Chang-bai-san = Bek-du-san
altarickorean 2 years ago
@altarickorean
Baek Du San = Bai Tou Shan = Chang Bai Shan
:-)
absjaris 2 years ago
si sain
bi ochi solho niyalma
sini uksura manju ai?
manju gisun ochi umesi amtangga
bi ochi bahakini manju gisun
bi tacikini dacing, Aisin gurun Jusen
bi sain sini manju ucun ^^
Meulsari 2 years ago
@Meulsari si sain nio? bi oci Monggo niyalma. bi Manju , Monggo juwe gisun oci adali bodombi. inu ai? gucu si ai be de oho?
doogiinoohuu 1 year ago
Beautiful song.
Manchu and Mandarin are NOT the same language. Mandarin belongs to the Sino-Tibetan language, while Manchu is a Tunguistic language. Mandarin usually is SVO, while Manchu is usually SOV.
guyklc 2 years ago
@guyklc
What is SVO & SOV?
absjaris 2 years ago
jiahua448 1 year ago
@jiahua448
got it...but that is sure a nasty example...
XD
absjaris 1 year ago
@absjaris Why so?
jiahua448 1 year ago
@jiahua448
about using the police the examples on making sentences. I have no issues or problem with chinese government or her security forces. but most poeple in the so-called "democratic" world have negative views on your country's police force. I'd say most westerners, particularly Americans would be shocked or intimidated after reading our conversation like this. XD
BTW, thanks for the explanation you gave to me earlier. I learned something new.
absjaris 1 year ago
@absjaris Actually, I think it is perfectly just- the man beats his wife, should he not be arrested? But, that strays too far from the point of the original post. You are welcome, sir of madam, but, unfortunately, I was quite wrong on one point- actually, there can be languages that uses other word orders, like OSV, VSO, VOS, &c. so, basically, if you see any strange combination of the letters 'S', 'O', and 'V', and the subject of the paper is about language, then just keep what I said in mind.
jiahua448 1 year ago
Beautiful writing - allows creativity in calligraphy.
Is he singing in Manchurian or Chinese?
Sounds like Mandarin but different from those I hear at Chinese restaurants in Chinatown.
FyFhFr25 2 years ago
There are different types of Madarin,majority of those who live in overseas Chinatowns are southern people such as the Cantonese,so they speak with southern accent which is different from the official Mandarin standard(Northern accent)
impearless 2 years ago
he's singing in both manchurian and mandarin. the parts where the lyrics are romanised at the bottom and in manchurian text on the side are when he's singing/speaking in manchurian, and the part where it's chinese text both on the bottom and the side are in mandarin. keep in mind there are different mandarin dialects, so maybe that's why it sounds different to you ^^
LupRei 2 years ago
The first picture in vid reminds me of Akita. :)
JapaneseBLood 2 years ago
manchu sounds like a beautiful language. it's a shame not many native speakers of it are left.
LupRei 2 years ago
Could any Manchurians translate into English the meaning of "hargashame weren alin" ?
Thank you.
absjaris 2 years ago
To any Manchu's in here. I was curious if it was true that the MANDARIN Chinese spoken right now was originally Manchu?
hyubgaek 2 years ago
Possibly yes...possibly no
absjaris 2 years ago
never. I am not Manchu nor Chinese, but I am a linguist who specializes in eastern languages. Manchu is in a a Tungusic language whereas Mandarin is a Sino-Tibetan language. So you see, they are totally different languages each with their very own histories and own separate developments.
thecritiquevirtuoso 2 years ago
See the problem I have with your answer (which is a common answer) is that, you guys base your answer clearly on what han-chinese and Mao established. Also you guys disregard the last Kingdom of China which was ruled by Manchus (Qing). Which the Manchus brought their language and made it official. So I am convinced Mandarin is originally Manchu considering that state went on for hundreds of years. But who am I? Your the so called "EXPERT"
hyubgaek 2 years ago
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thecritiquevirtuoso 2 years ago
Critiquevirtuoso, the way things go online is percieved differently according to the individual. I was not antagonistic, that is the way you percieved it. Your probably going off about my last sentence calling you the expert, I will apologize. I'm tired of dealing with keyboard warriors (not saying its you, its you calling me "dickhead", you wouldn't say that face to face). Anybody can misinterpret, a person can say your answer wasn't an answer but a dogmatic one. But I know it wasn't You get it
hyubgaek 2 years ago
So Lets go back to the start, and let this behind us. You stating that your a "linguist" specializing in eastern languages, and then strongly asert that it is not madarin (manchu), kinda threw me off, so that is why my response was as so, so once again I apologize if I affended you. Have a great one.
hyubgaek 2 years ago
And, Manchu never made their language offical in China, even in Qing Dynasty. Noble Manchu kids had to learn both Mandarin and Manchu. Even more, as time went by, many of them were used to speaking Mandarin and forgot their mother tongue.
donnamatch225 2 years ago
It is easy to say the kids learn mandarin and forgot their mother tongue, but where is your sources? Where is your source that Mandarin existed as a Han Chinese language? Can you point out that story in a Chinese text? I have resources to look it up if you pin point that to me.
hyubgaek 2 years ago
the info came from the manchu introduction video and lots of chinese sources which you won't understand, as well as japanese ones too
megp30 2 years ago
Ok well if you have the sources give them to me. Instead of blabbering on. Not trying to be rude, I'm just looking for solid evidence. I've studied Far East Asian History, and I have access to historic text translated into english from my Univ. Library, so give me not a professor commentary, but actual ancient textual evidence.
hyubgaek 2 years ago
according to your sources, which word do you think they share?
megp30 2 years ago
My so called "opinion" is based on history solely, because language structures whether being similar or not really doesn't matter greatly to say there is an ethnic tie. For example Korean and Japanese is the most similar compared to other asian nations when it comes to grammatical structures, but two different people or different origins. Manchu's are culturally very mixed and like this video says it is Manchusky/sib (siberian typs?). So I'm here it has more of an Altaic/Siberian mix into this.
hyubgaek 2 years ago
no i am asking which source of your states chinese is manchu? don't degress the topic
megp30 2 years ago
Manchu state is Jin and Qing. We must ask ourselves, looking at CHina now, and looking at China just 100 years ago, what is the difference? How long did Qing dynasty rule China? If you look at the map of mandarin spoken areas, the places around the capital is big compare to the rest of the regions of China.
hyubgaek 2 years ago
no state the SOURCES, evidences and post it here
is that so hard, korean? korean.. lmao!
megp30 2 years ago
so that's what i mean the northeastern accents have some manchu influences as you know
megp30 2 years ago
then you better state which section of chinese you are talking about, because cantonese has abslutely nothing to do with manchu and so is modern mandarin
megp30 2 years ago
Did you ever study history? GO look it up, go to your local library. And see the history of Manchu people, Han chinese people, and you can make your decision based on that. You don't even state your proper point, and ask for my sources? What sources of what topic, be specific? Your just trying to win a debate LOL
hyubgaek 2 years ago
i assume you are expert of manchu language, then would you please cite some sources from Chinese or English so we can take look at it together? and debate? so i can win? lmao
megp30 2 years ago
Your not even thinking through this. When are you going to site sources that Mandarin is purely "HAN CHINESE"? You get my point? My argument is look at history. If Qing dynasty which you said was Manchu definately rulled China for around 400 years and you still think Mandarin is ethnically Han? You see my argument here?
hyubgaek 2 years ago
like which word for example;
give it an example
megp30 2 years ago
can u give examples that show mandarin has been influenced by Manchu? Mandarin has a history of about 800 years. So its way before the Qings came.
wernded 2 years ago
Wernded, dude please make no mistakes about my statements, they may seem like I'm upholding an answer but I'm a seeker myself. Like the guy I had an argument with (megp30) don't assert my statements as the truth, its still a theory. Like you said Mandarin has 800 years, well 800 years ago was the Jin dynasty which is Manchu history. You see my point? I don't mean to affend anyone, just sharing my theories, but I'm open to any facts as well.
hyubgaek 2 years ago
800 years ago, it was the Ming or the end of the Yuan dynasty. It is unlikely there will be any influence from the Manchu. It is widely known that there is strong chinese cultural influence to the people in the north, even the Eskimos. So there are bound to be some similiarities. You r right in that cantonese is a much older variant of the chinese language than mandarin.
wernded 2 years ago
800 years ago was still Jin dynasty. Yuan and Ming came later, but anyways you are right the cultural influences from the middle kingdom was huge to all surrounding nations because of Sino-centrism. Nice talking to you!
hyubgaek 2 years ago
mandarin chinese was spoken for more than couple of thousand years
megp30 2 years ago
I'm sure it was spoken by the ethnic Hans right...
hyubgaek 2 years ago
right
megp30 2 years ago
right LOL
hyubgaek 2 years ago
@megp30
YEah...I agree too
absjaris 2 years ago
So to answer your question if I can gives examples, all I can give you is history, who rulled where and when, and how long, the theory is based on that, but not important. But I donot believe specifically the Chinese "HAN" people's language is Mandarin, probably more Cantonese, but like I said look at the history and the periods the empires rulled.
hyubgaek 2 years ago
I beg to differ that.
The original language is not cantonese (guangdonghua). It is definitely mandarin(putonghua).
The cantonese dialect strongly derived from mandarin in both respective of alphabets and pronounciation. Even majority of korean words also derived from mandarin.
absjaris 2 years ago