Braid: Alternate Epilogue Stories + Finished Constellation

[TheUzumakiluffy]

i read in somewhere what you can accually read all the books in this ending but i dont know how

[fastchapter]

The constellation could suggest the fall of Orion.

[MsBickle76]

@fastchapter The constellation is Andromeda; A princess in danger.

[ramprire]

A lesson is learned, but the damage is irreversible. That is what the story is about, period.

[pleasedontask]

oh thats what the singing was for? i totally freaked out the first time i heard it

[AMurder0fCrows]

it should be mentioned that the alt text appears even if you don't have all 8 stars, and that the alt ending is of the princess "blowing up". the constellation outside tim's house is Andromeda. It is named after Andromeda, the princess in the Greek legend of Perseus who was chained to a rock to be eaten by the sea monster Cetus.

[DrRickkenstein]

Here's how to get another epilogue story: There's one behind the boy at 1:45. You can get it by passing through the brown book, go to the platform at 2:10 and rewinding the time so that the brown book at 1:45 opens again. Now stand behind the boy and another story appears. :)

[ZuTheSkunk]

So that's it? Even if you get the stars, unlock this alternative ending and read all of the hidden messages, the cloud on top of the "castle" does not lead anywhere?

I am disappointed.

[da1on2]

This is an alternate epiloge? that's the same one I got

[random4848]

in the third section with the ghostly boy, if you ride the time immune elevator in teh 4th and come back it sings but no words appear... i did not get the stars at all and am really wondering if getting them unlocks the boys message... if you have any knowledge on this i would appreciate it

[andyd273]

My theory: the princess is science, not the bomb. It was science that gave us the bomb, but there are references to a lot of other things that don't have to do with fission. Spinning orbs on the ends of strings, cutting up rats to study their brains, and implanting tungstun rods in to the skulls of water starved monkeys. The whole bit about the candy store: Magnetic monopole, The It-From-Bit (AI) and ethical calculus; we are to young to have these things, maybe when we are older. Science.

[BADBRAD99999]

@andyd273 Great theory. I guess that this is how the metaphor goes; The Princess represents the pursuits, and regrets, of our Goals in life. Tim's real-world scientific goals are reflected in his "Fantasy" in a more childlike metaphor. He wants the Princess, despite her seeing him as a monster, and upon obtaining her, her detonation represents, in FantasyLand, his regrets over his choices. These reflect how he/we regret all those inhumane scientific goals that were met, most notably the A-bombs.

[hugocarr]

You missed the third room... "She radiated with fury" etc.

You need to stand on the platform in the fourth room, rewind time until you hear the red book open and go back to the third room and stand behind the rock.

[iguessiwatchthisshit]

Anyone found hidden text for book no. 3 aka "Now we are all sons of bitches."?

[denkok]

It's easy to understand what this game. You need to "see". Think. Simply "looking" is not enough.

This generation makes me sad. So braindead. They want everything laid down infront of them and explained throughly. "No time to think, just hold my hand and run me through." is a very popular way of thinking these days. When something has a non-linear narrative, it apparently is "pretentious hipster crap".

[mario11168]

@denkok This generation? People have been like that since the beginning of time.

There is a HUGE. Huge. Difference between not filling in the gaps and giving you a story. This is a story that doesn't fill in the gaps, and those stories drive me crazy. Just like the end of Limbo. Anything where I have to use my imagination for something I didn't create in the first place just doesn't seem right. A:lkajsd;flaksdjg

[dannystoll84]

Do you need 8 stars to unlock the hidden text? 'Cause I have all 8 but I'm not sure if you can read it without them…

[iguessiwatchthisshit]

@dannystoll84 No, the text is visible even with no stars.

[krosUrgewalt]

I miss the days when stories actually have to make sense to be considered artistic.

While the author did appear to have tried his best to write a captivating, mind-blowing story, his writing feels very confused, sacrificing coherence for the sake of mystifying his readers.

[UniversMonster]

You forgot to look up at the stars ;)

[Renshato]

how disappointing

[buggyiscool]

@mariobro1993 please name a game thats more artistic than this (no jRPG or anime)

[lolgirl123xD]

@buggyiscool

Anything made by Shigeru Miyamoto.

Fallout and Bioshock.

They have all of the artistic value and none of the pretensious crap.

[buggyiscool]

@lolgirl123xD yea i agree but this is artistic too, its frickin drawn for gosh shakes

[boojitsu]

I would not call Bioshock (1/2) "artistic". Well-made, well-written, stylish, and interesting. great games. I wouldnt call it "artistic" over a game like Braid. This is my own personal opinion and perception of 'art'. Bioshock (1/2) had as much preachiness and "social commentary" as Braid did, if not more so. And I can't believe you think Donkey Kong, Mario Bros, Super Mario Kart, and other pop games are more 'artistic' than Braid. I'm sure I'm coming off super biased but really... come on lol

[BADBRAD99999]

@buggyiscool Indeed. Pretentious or not, the incredible amount of backstory, metaphors, and subtext all give us a lot of emotional storytelling to explore and decipher. It's a journey itself, and we all can relate to it. Oh, and that being on top of the beautiful hand-drawn visuals and the fun-yet-challenging time-traveling gameplay.

If that isn't seen as art, then there's absolutely no hope for said criticizers. *CoughRogerEbertCough*

[notdryad]

@lolgirl123xD

Fallout... artistic? Seas of boring gray with a shitty storyline isn't art.

[PunkymickBlah]

@lolgirl123xD mainstream whore

[lolgirl123xD]

@PunkymickBlah Well excuse me, But that wasn't me who posted that. I barely know what this thing is :I

You should call mariobro1993 a mainstream whore bec ause he knows my account :U

[joemercer1]

@buggyiscool Thank you so much for mentioning Bioshock! A better game with a deeper storyline than Braid could imagine. If I had to vote for more artistic games, I would pick anything made by Tale of Tales over this.

[Bottery]

@joemercer1

I dunno Bioshock was basically System Shock mixed with Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand set in the 50s. It didn't strike me to be as subtle or as personal as Braid felt.

[IdiotProductions1379]

@buggyiscool hmm, games more artistic than this one... silent hill 1, the suffering, earthbound, castlevania (NES), silent hill 2, limbo, siren 2, and siren blood curse.

why the last one? because the final boss = acid trip from hell and the whole game turns out to be about time travel.

[WilliamGarland]

@mariobro1993

I think one of the games main problems, as far is storytelling is concerned, is that it is almost completely relegated to text boxes found between the missions. It's largely separate from the game play, which just seems uncreative by today's standard.

[Atomsk1987]

@mariobro1993 okami, muramasa :)

[Atomsk1987]

@mariobro1993 okami, muramasa :) 

[Atomsk1987]

@mariobro1993 Okami (PS2,Wii) and Muramasa (wii)

[Treasurefan02]

I take it that the fat guy on the last stage was supposed to represent "Fat Man", while the references to the little boy as well as the statue of the little boy during the epilogue refrences "Little Boy" (both names given to the atomic bombs that struck Japan during WW II)?

[ArcticKomodo]

You missed one in the first room, it's in the lower left of the screen. You cannot touch any green books to see the text.

[Buggaton]

Where does the cloud at the end take you? :S

[LuciaLlamosasCamba]

did you notice that the cloud at 3.40 is mooving slowly?

[zozuef]

it may sound stupid, but after reading the conclusions about the bomb, i though the name "braid" could also refer to "bomb raid". i could be tripping though =D

i think the bomb is really inside the whole story, that's so clear, but the real meaning of the whole story is not just that, the bomb fits in it, but i have not figured out what it is. maybe human irreversible greedy actions??? who knows?

[crystonix]

@zozuef I thought the theme of the story was mainly about obbsesion. Tim will do ANYTHING to get the princess - His one true desire, his meaning for existance - and it feels to me like the theme is mainly about obssesing over the things we really really want; to the point where we harm others to get it.

[TheVodica]

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[somoman123]

LOL now we are all sons of bitches LOL

[kellogs767]

You can press up when the constellation is above you to see the princess in chains without any stars blocking her...kind of cool i guess....

[mookiefreeze]

@buggyiscool

The quotes reference the trinity test. You can google or wiki that if you want.

[fegzzzor]

AAaaahhhh hate the sounds at 0:29 , it scares me xD

[Tzelemel]

That cloud next to the castle turret... Is it moving like the one in World 2-2?

[munkyface7108]

HOLY CRAP!!!! It's not his girlfriend, it's his mom!! Blew my MIND!!!

[Sterlonian]

@munkyface7108

It's not either of those =P

[YellowSn0wY]

It's open to personal interpretation, I suppose. Not going to drop any bombs what it could actually be.

[juggermeat]

Hey, did you notice the little number at the end of the word "world" at 1:52? I think you might want to investigate the surrounding area for a footnote. Just a thought.

[buggyiscool]

good observation, i think thats just referencing a quote from a book, cuz everything in that paragraph and below actually happend

[juggermeat]

Do you have any Idea what book it would be from... I think that whatever book thats from is what the entire story's based on... I mean, what ever it is could be important to decodeing the story and what it is about really.

[Accordionmastah]

also, do you know that if you look up (press the up arrow) when you are under the constellation, you can see the image of the princess clearly?

[dazilguy]

@buggyiscool you are right,it is in fact a quote,if you go to the credits at the par of the thanks you will see the reference number 1 next to the name william laurence,who was a journalist that saw the trinity test,so that part is himj describing it.also sorry my english is terrible XP

[OlemVolle]

@buggyiscool Yes, well you missed one :) There is some alternate text in that room aswell. It says: "She stood tall and majestic. She radiated fury. She shouted: "Who has disturbed me?" But then, anger expelled, she felt the sadness beneath; she let her breath fall softly, like a sigh, like ashes floating gently on the wind. She couldn't understand why he chose to flirt so closely with the death of the world."

[Miz06WHS]

Oppenheimer said that at the first successful atomic bomb testing

[retalia4]

@juggermeat From "about.com": Upon witnessing the explosion, its creators had mixed reactions... Robert Oppenheimer, though ecstatic about the success of the project, quoted a remembered fragment from the Bhagavad Gita. "I am become Death," he said, "the destroyer of worlds." Ken Bainbridge, the test director, told Oppenheimer, "Now we're all sons of bitches."

[loksia]

@juggermeat it;s a quote and it is explained in the credits...

[j8wydf6]

@juggermeat I think it's a reference to the writer, who is listed in the credits with a "1".

[AwesomeCCBX]

@juggermeat It's a quote from Kenneth Bainbridge - head of the Trinity atomic bomb tests

[luckypyjamas]

@juggermeat in the credits they credit the quote to william laurence, he was a new york times journalist who witnessed the trinity test and the bombing of nagasaki

the trinity test was where the quote they use, "now we are all sons of bitches", came from

[YoureWatchingJoe]

@juggermeat The footnote is referenced in the credits. It's a quote by William L. Lawrence, official journalist of THE MANHATTAN PROJECT and witness of the atomic bombing of Nagasaki. Hm....

[eae314]

Actually you don't need to collect the stars to see these, I read them all in my first playthrough (I also missed the one you missed though)

[bcgabriot]

Anyone know the symbolism to the green books taht don't have letters at teh end?

[buggyiscool]

999 views! lol

[1jawsus1]

you can see these without the stars...

also, you missed a hidden story behind the statue at 2:00

[buggyiscool]

how do you get to it?

[shalerson]

You have to go to the next room and become time-immune, then rewind time untill you hear the pages flip back to the red book in the previous room. When you run back, the text will be on-screen and you can stand behind the statue and reveal the alternate text.

[Endoskahn]

@buggyiscool Tou get to it by opening the red book, standing on it for a while, then go all the way to the time immune platform on the next map and rewind it so that the red book will be the one open. ROFL, 1 year to answer, awesome! Not sure anyone ever answered.

[Plantinus]

Apparently if you stand under the completed constellations and have Tim look up, the stars will fade and you can see the constellation better.