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  • That's just cruel.

  • My friend is a Baha'i from Iran and her brother's grave was destroyed. Prophet Muhammad said: "There is no compulsion in religion". Therefore, a true Muslim, or Christian, or Jew should never try to compel others to their particular form of religion. Desecration of graves is a hideous outrage which demonstrates how corrupted the followers of some become. This is why God must ever renew His religion from Age to Age, to bring new water to give life. Stagnant pond water is poison.

  • Please God!

  • In the long term, this is just another example why the leadership in Iran is corrupt morally, and why persecuting the Baha'i Faith will just make it stronger. Unfortunately for Iran, they can't destroy the means for the technology to leave the country and be shown around the world. The very technology they try to stop will also stop their progress. They must adapt with the times or become poorer. Which one they will choose is entirely their choice - the poison or the antidote?

  • Those who fight against Baha´i Faith will perish because they fight against God. Those who fight against God will suffer or perish depending on His Will.

    His is the Power and the Glory.

    Nobody can prevail in front of God.

  • Be careful, for your choice of words may lead to tragic misunderstandings.

    Words such as these, spoken in the past, have caused bloodshed and animosity amongst the loved ones of God by their misunderstanding.

  • i will never be able to see my grandparents graves since they were baha'i's. thanks to IRI, fuck mullahs, fuck them all. i will never forget the little memories i had with my grandfather

  • Hating your oppressors will not undo what they have done.

    And what have they done? They cannot hurt the dead. They have disrespected the remains that once contained your grandfather's soul, but they cannot harm his soul, only their own.

    And while I do not pretend to have known him, I do not think that your grandfather would want your soul to be filled with hatred.

    If they have caused you pain, pray for their forgiveness. If you are angry with them, pray for your own forgiveness.

  • your words are poignant and wise, but for what i know of my grandfather was that he was the sweetest, kindest, and most loving man anybody could meet. although i show hatred towards those who desecrated his grave along with others, i don't necessarily hate muslims, but mulla's i do. there's no doubt about that. although my grandfather was not a man of hatred, i'm sure he wouldn't appreciate what they have done to baha'i's and his family. but yes i do pray for their forgiveness indeed.

  • Believe me when I say my heart goes out to you for the suffering you must be going through at such an injustice, but your grandfather is with God now, and without a doubt sees that the suffering and hardship that your family has endured in the path of God is an honor and a blessing greater than any earthly treasure, and that the only ones those wicked persons have truly harmed is themselves.

    It's hard to see now, I know. But I truly am happy for you, even if you cannot understand why.

  • the last time I looked it is the 21 century not the 10 century

  • Fuck JESUS and all asshole who believe

    in such BULLSHITSSS!!!

    You are dumb as they make them!!!

  • You have to realize, many of the people in this video were probably killed for their faith. Their bodies were not allowed to be buried in the city because the clergy consider them heretics and infidels, so they had to build their cemetery out in the wastes.

    And even there, it isn't safe. These people were persecuted their whole lives, and now even their corpses aren't left alone. And this is but one of many cemeteries this has happened to.

  • My friend please, I have asked you many times and now I must insist, if you would like to discuss this over private messages or on a different video I would be more than happy to.

    But for God's sakes, this is like arguing details of the Talmud over holocaust footage. Please, let us take this elsewhere, I am begging you.

  • As you like. where do you want to discuss it.?

  • If Jesus did not reserecut literally, then how do you explain the empty tomb? was his body stolen and what is your evidence.?

  • But as much as I gladly would like to discuss these important concepts in further depth, I do not feel that it's appropriate to do so on this video.

    This video is to bring awareness of the hatred and savage behavior which is targeted towards the Baha'is of Iran. Even if you disagree with our beliefs, even if you have no intention of ever even investigating this faith, let alone accepting it, I hope you will see what is going on in Iran and agree that it is wrong and should be stopped.

  • The jews expected something totally different from what it was mentioned in the scripture becsuse they interprited teh scripture based on their needs. since they were opressed, they were anticipating teh messiah to be a warrior and deliver them from opression.

  • The Jews expected a very literal interpretation of what was written in their Book. They expected their Messiah to rule by the sword, sit on the throne of David, and promulgate the law of Moses. Jesus fulfilled all of these things they expected in an allegorical sense, but to their eyes he didn't fulfill any of them.

    But please I beg you, let us discuss this elsewhere for the sake of the Baha'is of Iran and their families. Is that so much to ask?

  • You beg me dear brotherr. why.?

  • So I guess this after the destruction eh?

  • What gives? Why did they destroy the cemetery? Was it not muslim enough for their insane president?

    Convert to Christianity where we love, respect, and care for one another!

    John 15:17

  • Hello Revelation181.

    I would ask that you not be of the mistaken impression that the misdeeds of these individuals is any reflection on the teachings of Islam, any more than the Spanish Inquisition is a reflection on the teachings of Christ.

    The love and respect you espouse is praiseworthy, and may God help you to maintain such virtue! Be assured however that both Islam and the Baha'i faith promote these virtues as well, for the faiths all come from the same one God.

  • You do not beilive in the physical ressurection of jesus Christ.

    you are closer to Islam than to Christiantiy. Muslims do no beilive in the resurrection nor the crucification. They deny the incarnation of God.

  • That's true, we regard much of the New Testament as allegorical rather than literal. But then, the same could be said for Christians and Judaism. The Jews denied Christ because they expected the absolute literal fulfillment of their prophecies, and Christ fulfilled them allegorically.

  • wait, wait, wait, God can become a man becasue supenatural is possible unless you do not beilive in supernatural power. why do you limit God.? why is it immpossible for God to become a man.?

  • You misread what I am saying entirely. It is rather the opposite, that God is not limited, not imperfect, and would have no reason ever to become something other than what He is. God is unchanging.

    But please, there are many other videos which it would be far more appropriate to discuss this issue on and I would be more than happy to discuss them with you.

  • It is true that God is unchanging as far as his attributes and essence, but this doesn't mean that God cannot become a man.

  • This act of hatred violates the fundamental teachings of Islam. 

    I am sickened to see this.

  • WHat is nonsense?? Ask Me buddy... waiting enthusiastically for your reply...Come back with your biggest questions....

  • Any funnier than praying to a stone?

    As Muslims do not worhip the black stone, neither do we worship the body of Baha'u'llah. Is it a sacred thing? Absolutely. Do we worship it above God? Absolutely not.

    As for speaking for ourselves in front of Muslims, Baha'is have a proud history of doing so, even when so-called Muslims retort not with arguments but with stones.

  • May their gods forgive them of what they've done. That unacceptable!

  • Why iranians have degraded themselves to this level? Once we were proud and benovelant, tolerant and kind people . Look, What has happend to us? if this is Islam I don't want to be a moslem anymore, I am deeply ashamed and saddend . What a shame.

  • I say this as a Baha'i, and I mean it:

    This is not Islam. This is not what Muhammad taught. Islam is a benevolent and merciful religion, and absolutely worth having faith in. Do not let the misdeeds of those who abuse its name shake your faith.

    Just as the Crusaders did not represent the teachings of Christ, nor the Pharisees the teachings of Moses, these oppressors do not represent the Quran.

  • That is so true. The crusaders died long time ago, together with the knights. There's only a few faithfull men, afterall says who that life's gonna be an easy one. No one does, but they took it to be such, their demise is of their own creation.

  • Come on over to Christianity!

    We welcome you as a brother in Christ where you will receive eternal life. Don't listen to apostate teachings of madmen who slaughter their own. Jesus Christ is the way, the Truth, and the life. John 14:6

  • Thank you for your offer, but we already believe in Christ. In fact, we believe that He has returned and fulfilled the promises of all the previous holy Books of God. The truth is, to ask us to convert to Christianity is as if you were asked to convert to Judaism.

    I realize you mean well in this comment, but in reality it is not a particularly appropriate choice of places to proselytize in, and it is done under a mistaken impression.

  • But Bahaees do not beilive in Jesus being God who became a man !

  • you do not beilive in jesus Christ as the incarnation of God . do you?

  • Christ's words were God's words. Christ's perfections were from God. Christ's actions were God's will. We believe Christ to be God made manifest on earth.

    But to believe that God transformed from an infinite and uncontainable being into a creature of dust? That would lower God.

    We believe that Christ was a Manifestation of God, but not that God was (or ever could be) contained or limited or (God forbid) killed.

  • Hold on. Godd is not limited but he can become a man . so, jesus had two natures and had the same assense of God. God is capable of anything. it is something that Islam and Bahi'sm do not want tto aknowleadge.

  • oh NO ..god was watching who did it

  • WHAT IF MY FATHER WAS BURIED THERE

  • i would help you kick ass

  • I don't think any decent human could do such a thing? But in these days very few are left.

    I feel sorry Bahai's.

  • saracen_youtube_warrier: And how much did the terrprist mullahs pay you for your stupid comment?

  • I don't think you are getting paid by mullas (as iranjavid commented). because many people think that Bahai's work for Israelis or Americans, Muslems are being killed and harassed where they are in minority as well, specially in Palestine and that's what makes you angry of them, But it doesn't mean that because Bahai faith's administrations are based in Israel than they work for them, Are you an American spy because you live there? please don't let your anger effect your decisions,

  • You are wrong, Mulsilms in Palestuine are being killed in self defense from Isrealies and for being violent not like Bahai's for being peacfull

    No bahai ever attacked or threatened any Muslim, evean after executing thousands of Bahai's, they still love Muslims just like all other humans.

    Palestinians are dying for their jihad, Bahai's don't have jihad and any form of violenec or even resistence against government is forbidden in Bahai laws.

  • Please try to refrain from making this about the political battles between the Israeli and Palestinian movements, they are frankly irrelevant to the Baha'i situation. The only involvement that we have in it at all is that the Baha'is were exiled to Ottoman Palestine in the nineteenth century.

  • This is why.. i believe religion is bullshit!! Dont all religions believe in peace?.. kindness??.. JUSTICE??? and EQUALITY!??.. So why then.. are muslims trying to kill innocent people because they're not muslims.. or islamic.. or whatever.. we should all believe in what we want and NOT be discriminated for it.. seriously

  • that's nothing to do with religion, that's the people themselves so wrapped up in what they think they're believing that they can't accept anyone thinking any differently. baha'u'llah says a unified mankind heading in the wrong direction is better than a divided, albeit wise humanity.

  • 98% of Islam comes from Christianity and Jewdaism

    1-Virginity comes from Virgin Mary

    2-Polygemy comes from Ibrahim with 2 wives

    3-Terrorisim comes from Samson in Bible who burned Palestinians' farms

    4-Killing comes from Ibrahim that wanted to kill his son

    5-Revolutioanary thinking comes from Moses who revolve against Ferrouh.

    6-Fasting comes from Jewdaism

    7-Revange comes from Jesus word "Teeth for Teeth"

    surprisingly,Bahii faith believe Islam, Christianity and Judaism as devine religions

  • what do you mean it comes from this, it come from that...it is all in your blood. worshiping, revenge, terrorism, murder and scaring people is all in human being blood.

  • one massage to bahais you cant sail in three boats try and you will get an answer.

  • It's all the same boat you've just jumped overboard because you don't believe it.

  • Whoever did this must be held accountable.

    In Islam we are taught that the respect for a dead person is in their burial.

    This goes completely against that and is unacceptable.

  • Salaam brother!

  • Being from the west, it doesn't even make sense why the government would do this. It just seems really immature.

  • We can't be absolutely sure it was specifically the government, only that the government did not prevent it (or catch the perpetrators) and that the persons who did it had access to bulldozers.

    I doubt that the government had any involvement through official channels, but I must confess I would have very little means of knowing one way or the other conclusively on that.

  • But the governemnt of Islamic Republic supports such actions. It's the government that banned Bahai's from  signing in Universities while even Jews can sign in Iran universities. Iran government never impriosoned any of thousands of jews in Iran for being spies of Isreal while they all have most of their family members living in Israel and executes and imprisones Bahaies for being spies of Isreal.

    Mullah's are scared of Bahai's not because they are bad people, but because

  • Mullah's are scared of Bahai's not because they are bad people, but because they are scared of the spread of Bahai, millions of Iranian Bahai's had converted to Bahai from all different religious backgrounds Muslims, Jews, Christians and even Zorostrianswho kept their religions in majority Muslim Iran for Milleniums. They know many more millions would convert. They also know that the Bahai faith is the 2nd most world wide spread religion aftyer Christianity with over 7 million converts, only les

  • The reason for this, spiritualunity, is because the Christian and Jewish faiths are recognized explicitly in the Quran without abrogating the Quranic dispensation, as they are its predecessors. To say, however, that Jews in particular have not been held suspect of Zionist political intentions and persecution is mistaken.

    The difference is, the Islamic Republic promotes that the Baha'i faith itself is supposedly a Zionist plot, and the clergy claim falsely that we are infidels who commit shirk.

  • I'm rather surprised how kind and supportive most of the Muslims who have posted here have been.

    What saddens me is how cruel the recent posts by those claiming to be Christian have been.

    I say "claiming" because 1 John 4:20-21 states:

    "If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?"

    "And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also."

  • and i suppose jesus told you to be a misguided racist. unless *shock horror* you're not listening to jesus' unity teachings

  • this is terrible.

  • How are you any different than the Jews who jeered at Jesus on the Cross, and taunted Him in the streets? They used all the same claims, all the same contempt, all the same venom as you now use.

    Indeed, as Christ has said: "Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me."

    You now, in accordance with the words of Jesus, scoff at His death, taunt Christians, spit on Christian martyrs, and deny Christ Himself.

  • Funny, I don't have a problem with Muhammad, and I don't think He has much of a problem with me.

  • They are just as much an authority on my religion as the Pharisees were on Christianity.

  • I should clarify that with "I hope"

  • The word "love" is used 362 times in the Noble Qur'an and 360 times in the entire Bible. Peace.

  • You're certainly attached to literal interpretations. Funny, according to the Jews, the Messiah will literally sit on the throne of David, literally rule by the sword, and far from abrogating it shall promulgate the law of Moses.

    How is your faith any different from theirs, they who denied Christ the first time, as you are doing now?

  • For the same reason why the Pharisees feared Jesus.

  • So these graves have been desecrated, and now you come here to spit on your beliefs, "in the name of Christ."

    Explain to me how you, one who judges despite being commanded not to by Christ, who condemns despite being commanded not to by Christ, who far from loving his fellow man as commanded to by God is willing to assault the already besieged dead, dares to pretend to understand the meanings of the words of Christ, which you mock with your every cruel and heartless word?

    God forgive you!

  • Awake indeed, O sleeper, for He has come again like a theif in the night, and you knew not the time which He came.

  • Wake up, how could a 2000 years old religion keep up with 21st century? stop being ignorant and open your eyes and ears and decide for yourself. We all know that unfortunately the holy Bible has been manipulated during the past 2000 years so some handful amount of people can profit of it. I have to mention that I love all the previous religions and their followers, so please don't take my words offensively.

  • Destroying graves is sick! Any way i am muslim, and i can tell you all to read Surah Al-Kafirun once again and stop arguing and molesting people because of their believes. Salam

  • I testify, as a Baha'i, that there is no God but Allah and Muhammad is His Messenger.

    I appreciate that you oppose injustice committed in the name of Islam.

  • LOL false Gospel. Funny. However You're entitled to your opinion.

    I believe that God is known through Messengers of God. And that through the Covenent that we have with him, he will never lead us astray and will always bring a Messenger down when we do.

    Therefore Krishna, Moses, Bhudda, Jesus, Mohammad, The Bab, Bahaullah are all valid.

    The 'false doctrines' that we believe in, you believe in too. It's called our Greater Covenent.

  • "that we love one another." 2 Jo. 1-3 Let's work together across the interfaith divide to obey Him. Peace.

  • By God have you no heart at all? Do you even watch the videos before beginning your slander? How can you claim to be a Christian and act in such an abominable fashion? May God have mercy on you for such cruelty!

  • >>Muhammad Himself forbade the desecration of corpses or graves. How can Islam be blamed for a thing that it forbids?

    The same thing goes for the use of suicide bombers of civilian targets like restaurants and schools. You do not hear the Muslim community disapproving. In fact you here only praise! Even when they use women and children. The latest thing has been to use retarded adults! How can any Muslim man not be ashamed?

  • This is patently false. I personally know several muslims who disapprove. In fact, I even know of a group of Muslims who set up a site advocating for Baha'i rights! I have met many kind Muslims who condemned terrorism, and even some mean ones. By God, you say you don't hear the Muslim community disapproving, but even Grand Ayatollah Khamenei himself, the Supreme Leader of Iran and one of the chief critics of America and the west, could be heard on 9/11/01 condemning the terrorist attacks.

  • And I have seen websites, video blogs, news interviews, street protests, fatwas and vehement proclamations from clergy, scholars, and individual believers alike stating that terrorism is without a doubt unequivocally against the teachings of Islam.

    What rock is it that so many people are living under that they don't see this? Oh certainly I'll agree it's not the response it should be, but to deny the efforts of righteous Muslims opposing terrorism is inexcusable.

  • By God! Even in this very thread you can see Muslims condemning this deplorable practice! How can you claim there is "no outcry"?

    Really, this deplorable action does not harm the dead, they are beyond harm and are in God's hands. My sympathy lies with honest and righteous Muslims who are now subject to the scorn and hatred of the ignorant because of the despicable actions of people claiming to represent Islam.

  • How is it that you call them Muslims when they do not follow Muhammad?

    How is it that you blame Islam for those who disobey its teachings?

  • And if you want to continue to assert that there is no outcry, I suggest you go to Bahairights . org, the website of the Muslim Network for Baha'i Rights, and tell me that again.

  • >>I think it was a joke because Israel was founded in 1948...

    I apologize. I misunderstood your intentions.

  • There is nothing to forgive, my friend. It was a bit of a bitter joke on a bitter subject.

  • >>The same logic that you use to judge Islam and Muslims is the same logic that so-called Muslims have used in their persecutions.

    There is no excuse for desecrating a cemetery. All it achieves is to show how low humanity is capable of going. It does not matter what religion the dead happen to be. They deserve to be shown respect. Anyone who would destroy a cemetery is truly primitive.

  • I completely agree.

    But to judge all Muslims and all of Islam for this is absurd. I am a Baha'i who has Muslim friends, friends who would never desecrate a cemetery, friends who treat others and their beliefs with respect and kindness.

    How is it that you would feel that it is fair to judge by one viewpoint and not by another? It is a fallacious and false generalization.

    Muhammad Himself forbade the desecration of corpses or graves. How can Islam be blamed for a thing that it forbids?

  • im an bahai but i dont blame the muslims for that. this was fanatisem and hade nothing to do with the religion of Islam.

  • You view all other people and religions as less than animals. How do you expect they all view Muslims ? What has Islam ever created ? nothing!

    Mathematics was stolen from the Greeks, like arts from other countries, Muslims just move in and claim the success of the conquered Nation as thier own, true parasites. Dubai waas created by the west showing Islam "Oil" then organising thier bank accounts, then "how to spend it!". Just another parsitical feature of Islam. We even built it all for you.lol.

  • Again you demonstrate how Islam, the "religion of Peace", is violent and intolerant of others. What did you achieve by destroying a cementary? The truth is Muslims are barrack and want to trun the clock back 1500 years to their golden age.

  • The same logic that you use to judge Islam and Muslims is the same logic that so-called Muslims have used in their persecutions.

    Prejudice and hate is no way to conquer prejudice and hate.

  • damn youtube glitch.  previous comment directed at "ginoextremo"

  • this video is so sad!

    ... and the thread is hilarious. thank you, once again, to the internet for showing how 3 stupid muslims can ruin it for the rest of their religion.

  • idiot bahaisim was created by a muslim who incorporated Allah's teachings. please dont hate us for our religious beliefs. but we have our rights thank god for the un anyways have a blessed day

  • To be fair, the Baha'i faith was actually founded by a Babi who was a Shia Muslim earlier in life.

  • and jesus was a jew whats the matter?

  • I was responding to a statement incorrectly stating Baha'u'llah's origins. I am a Baha'i myself, I certainly wasn't saying that being a Babi was a bad thing.

  • The Baha'i Faith: spying for Israel since 1856

    (only people who know history will get this joke)

  • i think it was a joke because fanatiks actualy say that and it cant be true because israel was founded 1948.^^

  • Thank you, someone gets it!

  • no matter what bahaullah loves u

  • I see you're spamming this here as well.

    You deny the Mahdi and the Masih and call us pagans...interesting.

  • I am not a Moslem or Bahai and in fact i dont believe in any religion. I am only an Iranian and i am ashamed to say that what has been done to the cemeteries can only be done by people who have subhuman morals.

  • destroy muslim cemeteries?? hardly we bahais respect all no matter your religion race gender or opinion and just a little something to think about there is no such place as hell, i shall pray for u to someday understand and accept all religions

    just so u know god and bahaullah love u no matter what,

    god bless

  • as a muslim u should not use vulgarities. there r much better words to use.

    follow the prophet (saw), the best role model ever.

  • It is a shame that uneducated and angry people like you give Islam a bad name. It is apparent, based on you language, that you were raised by animals. You are an offense to Allah

  • I would like to thank all the Muslims who have said kind things from the bottom of my heart. I am truly grateful, though you can't see my tears I truly thank God for people with kind hearts such as yours. God bless you all!

  • another proof that humans are parasites... only humans can be so ignorant.. O well in the middle ages the katholics dit kind of the same thing...

  • I am an iranian and Muslim,killing people for their belief is nothing but barbarity and I strongly condemn your savage behavior.

  • what a horrible thing to do to bahai's!!

  • Destroying cemetaries is SICK

  • this is such a sad video i am a baha'i and two of my cousins have been thrown in jail and killed because of being a bahai. i just wish that one day all the religon's could accept eacth other

  • i'm deeply sorry for ur loss, may god forgive the people behind this act.

  • Bahai is a great and grateful religion. Shame to the muslims for such activity.

  • the muslim graveyards cover a much greater area, and in an area that is worth more. plus, government agents destroyed this plot. you do not send government agents to simply flatten an area of land like any other. this is simply disrespect for the dead, and for the baha'i faith.

  • I have never had a graveyard bulldozed where I live, and much less so without contacting the families and allowing them to relocate the remains. What society do you live in where it is commonplace to desecrate graves?

  • There is one in my town so old that some of the gravestones have been worn down to almost nothing by the ravages of time.

    But I assure you, no one has ever just gone through it and bulldozed people's gravestones. It's not as if the space was needed, as they made sure to put the bahai cemetaries far away from town because they consider bahais "unclean" and thus unfit to be buried alongside muslims.

    This was an act of hatred. How can you deny it, and why would you try?

  • The point is, this graveyard is destroyed to desecrate the graves of Bahais.

    That the government of Iran persecutes people is indeed a fact. This is chronicling a specific form of persecution and the motivation behind it.

  • the baha'i faith supports islam just as much as christianity or judeaism. it is an independent religion in it's own right. it is not simply an islam support

  • KOSKESH BABATE Idiot! Bishoour ke one day this would happen to your own father's grave, I promise!

  • if there is a god, i ask him or her to give me enough life to be a witness of demolition of "REza" and khomeyni does fucking arab basterd

  • Yeah, but two wrongs don't make a right. "...Should any heap his blame upon you, praise ye him; should he offer you a deadly poison, give him the choicest honey in exchange; and should he threaten your life, grant him a remedy that will heal him evermore. Should he be pain itself, be ye his medicine; should he be thorns, be ye his roses and sweet herbs." ~AbdulBaha

    If the Bahais wanted to get revenge, don't you think they could have done the same? They choose not to.

  • Pains me to see this.Islam does not allow this.Apologies.I won't wish this for anyones grave.

  • dude, thats horrible.

    represent the bahaiss.

  • savages

  • ?!! Its got **everything** to do with it!

    The Iranian government considers Bahais to be "najess" ("unclean"). They cant be buried in normal graveyards, they have to be far far away from others. And look what theyre doing to these graveyards now.

  • Would you say the same bulshits if that happend to your own fathers' grave?!

  • Why don't they destroy Muslim cemeteries?.Their cemetery is a lot bigger has more land.You (arejaei)are an idiot or pretend to be one,but rest of the world knows why the Iranian regime does that.

  • By all means, post such a video.

  • This is what hate does.

  • Well, you dont have any idea about Baha'is then. Go study abit then open your mouth and talk IDIOT!

  • i bet you have no idea about any ethnicity what so ever.