CNN Debunks False Obama 'Madrassa' Smear

[theHellwithPolitics]

Fox News sucks!

[nebuIar]

CNN has seen the light but put the blame to others on the smear against obama it once joined.

[TheAussie00]

Fox sickens me after this. Im thinking of canceling my Foxtel, just so I dont help fund this evil news empire.

[MrSqwubbsy]

The USA needs new media laws to muzzle the scum-dogs of the right-wing press.

[foof73]

Gee... I wonder what RELIGION dominates Fox. Anyone care to answer that question?

[Minwu325]

@foof73 love you

[koya25555]

CNN did this because they want to show how shitty FOX is, they don't really care about the truth or Obama... interesting never the less

[nicsagro]

FOX news.. False Oblique Xtremism..

[lisanham]

FOX "news" is shameful to journalism. Not that CNN is totally unbiased, but at least they investigate the stories on which they report.

[bonkabonk]

What's next? Something like: "Oooh Hillary talked to a Muslim when she was 5 years old, she must be a bad president?"

More Fox, more americans soldiers (most of them white) getting killed for nothing. Or rather, for Halliburtons bottom line and rich spoiled fratboys.

Michael Moore was right, how many Senators son's are fighting in Iraq?

[bonkabonk]

MAN, Those Fox network dogs are insidious and mean!

But also kinda stupid. Did they really think that their "Hillary smears Obama on muslim-ism" line would hold out for long? Of course they don't care, coz their viewers and voters just eat anything up what says: "you're white, you're better than blacks, women, muslims or jews, even if you're kinda stupid and live in a trailerpark"

[lightmage007]

I think faux news is the proper word. All of rupert murdoch's media is biased.

[mrvan12]

"Fox" need to go back to elementary school of journalist.

[augustw3st]

you just summed up FOX News in one sentence. Thank you buddy :)

[exh99]

CNN "did what any credible news organization would do"...Could not have put it any better

[RamzGT]

"rock star"... lol

[SansonNavajas]

I finally start tumbling into threads that are not about the name-calling. It's funny because the subject of the thread is name-smearing. No "jews rule the world" no "you red or blue scumbag". I sincerely hope this man becomes your president. Love and courage to the american people in this (rather) grim(?)hour and may peace and unity prevail (hehe) over war and disunion.

[arena2101]

Glad someone in the media has some ethics

[pepe198499]

sorry to dissapoint you but CNN has no ethics either, just type in 'CNN hatchet job obama' and see what they really think of obama

[thebeatles120]

i agree! i think american muslim's could do a lot for our policy in the middle east that would be positive for both sides.

[lightmage007]

i agree also, it is stereotypical to say that all muslims are terrorists.

[nevillee]

i'd still vote for him even if he was muslim. we would have a better foreign policy.

[magog1138]

I agree, hill0118. Sometimes, this country sounds like "land of opportunity" with the fine print reading: "for christians, white, rich, and conservative." This is why I like Barack. Grew up in a borken home, like many of us and worked hard. And he does not teetor-totter on his policies.

[hill0118]

It annoys me how everyone must go to amazing lengths to prove that there is some fatal flaw to every politician. You know, I don't think every politician has to be an immoral scumbag in order for me to disagree with them. Its like Obama was saying at the DNC, "We've been persuaded that our opponents are not just wrong, they're bad." Now, there are some bad guys. At the same time, I don't think every Republican is a crazed loon. I disagree with them, but I think they are okay people.

[a1cjlock]

It surprises me how low some people will go to get the littlest speck of dirt on someone. He was in Elementary School for heaven sake. I reeeally think he was perusing a political career that long ago.. Please..

[jazzdicekey]

isn't Hilary clinton and Bill clinton jewish?

[Constantone]

Don't be an idiot. Or at least pretend.

[lou737]

Kinda like 9/11 being an inside job.

[kraskp]

Yup, one of the nicest elementary schools in Jakarta, just up the road from the US Ambassador.. definitely a haven for terrorists. pepe198 - we americans are so racist and against everything not christian or jewish, it disgusts me. I think some of us are decent, though. Barack will win.

[kraskp]

I went to a Catholic school, does that make me a religious extremist... well maybe..

[gangsta3869]

islam is the most beautiful religion .who can't say this

[pepe198499]

americans are so stupid it's unbelievable, madrassa means school, the accusation against obama is that he weant to school, you lots are so racist it's crazy

[slntdth]

American kid speaking here: I can't believe that people would use American paranoia of Islamics, against a candidate. Now that's just ludocris and sick! I am DEFINITELY voting for Obama.

[Charlie8417]

I have no problem he went there. I couldn't care less if he was muslim or not. I honestly dont think the major of americans believe the lies of Fox news unless they're right wingers.

But yea I would agree that this kind of bullshit gives Americans as a whole a bad rep.

[lesbleus2000]

news from rupert bulldog

[keyvan85]

so what if he went to the freakin muslim school?? does that make him a terrorist???

[vcakmak]

That makes him someone who understands every color, every religion and every culture in the world.

[slntdth]

WEll, It's certainly what they're trying to make it seem.

[emilailai92290]

...I really don't understand what the big deal is about a madrassa. Isn't it just a school? What's wrong with being taught a religion? How is it different from Sunday school?

[MiddleClassified]

Oh No! All I needed to watch was the first 21 seconds to realize this guy is a dope! (And I'm not talking about what has been sucked up his nose hole!)

[lifeasahandbag]

not nearly as much as was sucked up by GW, but oh wait, nobody talks about that...

[chipdodds]

look closely at hillary, she has the same look as bush.

[krieD]

he isn't muslam...omg typical IQ 30 sentence

[allahgooinkoink]

A black muslam for president? You have got to be kidding me.

[Filby]

I'm gonna pretend I didn't read that lest my faith in my fellow Americans be completely shattered.

[Trigaranus]

Rightey... 1st of all - what's a muslam? 2nd why would a black muslim make a worse president than a white evangelist, and 3rd: watch the friggin' report. He's a christian, Mr. Koink.

[tanseymd]

you're an idiot

[mcsharp]

Rupert Murdock is the worst person in the entire world. I think he should be jailed as a terrorist and an extreme danger to informed democracy. His news assets reclaimed and given back to the public they currently misinform.

[ladygc419]

Hillary is so desperate to win, Obama deserved this win, she doesn't care about any of us

[jcitizen0010]

lol, God forbid we have a leader who actually knows something about Islamic culture and religion. A person who'll know not to use words like "evil doers" and "crusade" when speaking to an international forum.

[Alphamale69]

That damned Hillary camp. She's making more enemies every day. This is what happens when people are afraid and can't fight you fairly.

[Amsu411]

Like it matters. How would anyone know what the school was like 40 years ago anyway?

[seyfarth]

Racism and prejudice reign in the US. Why would anyone care what religion his 4th grade school espoused? Even if Obama were a raving Muslim today, which he is not, would NOT make him a bad person. Equating a religion with terrorism only displays your ignorance and fear.

This is the US, the land of freedom. Freedom!

Obama is an american, and as such he is free to pursue his dreams, just like we all are. A slam against him, based on race or religion is a slam against what America stands for.

[circumpolar212]

what does america stand for - unconcerned capitalism, poverty, bigorty and rampant nationalism?

[seyfarth]

Like I said freedom. I know where you are going with this. I am not one of those that voted for Bush. Not all of us are idiots.

[Cheezitmeister]

Well this is obviously expected from politics. Anyone voting based on rumors is an idiot, but most times people don't really pay attention to the details so it can't be helped.

Obama seems to have a lot of potential, but I'm not sure how racism is across America. Then we have that sexist problem... damn when we will learn.

[nashst3r]

I will NEVER watch CNN again.

[acematthew]

Why, you don't like facts?

[sayyid99]

How stupid are RW americans?

Madrasah means school

Bloody racists

[zufallx]

Hating a religion has nothing to do with racism, fool.

[throughstruggle1134]

Really? as far as i'm concerned both involve ignorance thats enough for me...

[Filby]

No, but it's still bigotry.

[LionHeart53]

As you should all know Fox is nothing but a right wing biased channel that continuously reports false news in support of the right wing. Obama seems like the candidate we need to clean the mess and corruption caused by Bush and his team. He gets my vote for 2008..who is with me on this?

[zufallx]

Not me. Remember CBS's smear campaign? Don't even try to say Republican's are the only ones throwing lies around.

[LionHeart53]

that's definitely true, but now this is a clear lie. Obama is a Christian as we all know. and who cares if he was not chrisitian. As long as he is patriotic and willing to defend this country with his life he got my vote

[chelle329]

"CBS's smear campaign" was in fact an unauthenticated document that contained documented FACTS about then candidate Bush's stunted service in the National Guard. Furthermore, even after the offering of an award of thousands of dollars, not one person could verify Bush being in Alabama. This Obama and Clinton smear was based on NO facts!

[zufallx]

Which Clinton smear are we talking about?

[nohenshaw]

Hillary Clinton is a PC, Barack Obama is a Mac

[zufallx]

They look like TRS-80s to me.

[NotWillieMason]

So...don't vote for Obama because a 'liberal' news network did something bad in the past too? That doesn't make sense, zufallx.

[zufallx]

No, don't vote for Obama because he has virtually 0 experience. Let him build up his career first. You are taking things out of context.

[NotWillieMason]

He's spent 10 years in elected office. That's longer than some people spend on a career these days.

And for Obama's experience to be in context, you have to mention it first.

[fatuesque]

Obama is a great politician.The media will do anything to have a whackjob in the whitehouse and to ruin the united states.

Please ignore everything the media says as it is all lies.

He would be the saviour of america.VOTE FOR HIM !!!!

[RBBONZO]

Swift Boating - plain and simple.

[Eknytz]

lol why would anyone even worry about if he was in a madrassa its not like he's thinking "ohhh in 30 years i'm going to become US president and do terrorist stuff" c'mon people use your head.

Stupid smear campaigns

i hope you win

[tingtangs]

It seems that the Republicans cannot win without smear campaigns. That's too bad. And the tactic is simple: Make up some ridiculous accusation that you push like hell, and when you are busted, maybe issue a tiny retraction which most of your redneck viewers will never see, so they still believe the lie.

[jusohamburg]

I'm a twenty-year-old guy from Hamburg, Germany. If I were able to participate in United States presidential election 2008, I'd decidedly vote in your favor Obama as you bring new hope not only to the American people but to the world that lacks the guidance of such a brilliant, charming leader and excellent communicator like you.

[seanyar]

Obama gets my vote, this guy is WHAT WE NEED!

[sbyrd24]

Rupert Murdock is an evil spirit, I think he had a part in 9-11, with his media power - fox news - he can convince people of anything.

[quadomatic]

fox news blows

[krxna]

This is actually one of the better public schools in Indonesia, especially at the time when Mr. Obama attended. It is in the Menteng district of Jakarta, a very prestigious and highly exclusive part of town. Many celebrities and government officials of all religious following live in the area. I'm sure "Barry" recieved a very good educuation while he was there.

[crazyclubber]

Typical Republican tactics -- Tie anyone and everyone to some evil terrorist connected organization, and hope that all of the uneducated southerners take the bait. Much like they took the bait when Rove lied about McCain's son and his race. What's sad is the Jesus People down there don't care to find out the facts. They see color and make up their mind immediately.

[emiloca]

How does a CNN psuedo-bash on Hillary Clinton constitute "left-wing propaganda"?

[fanbutton]

in plain english, its called...Ambush Campaigning!

[fanbutton]

Opposing candiddates do that when they know that they don't have a chance in hell.

[nestorrfortuna]

fox news... lame...

faux news

[Muhammedsucks]

How is it debunked? I saw no proof,

All I saw was a Ted Turner spin Dr

talking to some guy off the street

that he could of paid a few bucks to

say anything. No documentation of

identification was provided & no

school records were provided.

[budavol]

Try getting your hearing and vision checked, Muhammedsucks. If they check out, see about renting a brain. Nobody wants you to make a fool of yourself on You Tube.

[Muhammedsucks]

Fox News has busted CNN time & time again

for spewing left wing propaganda, half truths &

all out lies, Because of this, their ratings have

dropped to less than half of Fox news & that's

why corrupt Ted Turner will stoup to anything

dishonest to embarrass Fox News. You being a secular progressive lemming

Your to blind to see that!

[budavol]

FauxNews has NEVER, not ONCE, "busted" CNN for anything. They are too busy spreading their own lies. FauxNews doesn't even believe in journalism. They'll put up any piece of crap from a discredited paper if it suits their agenda, as witness here. CNN, however, clearly BUSTED Faux on their stupid non-journalism about Osama's elementary school. Faux is utterly shameless.

[NotWillieMason]

You are now implying that a major news network bribed several people just to make Fox look silly over a human interest story. And, inexplicably, Fox News has done nothing so far to expose this blatant corruption. You would think they would be eager to both defend their reputation and expose this seedy underbelly of CNN. Very strange.

[BeReaI]

fox news are big racists their the ones that started the whole thing he only went muslims school for 4 years who cares shit

[wntoply6]

hey agracuta, i agree completely it does not matter what religion our president is. but you asked if american is regressing into the past...well if you listen to the right, that's exactly what they want american to do. ah...remember the 50's, when blacks in the south were relegated to the back of the bus, gays, led by the ignorant church (of any denominatino) were demonized, and yes when sex was a sinful, dirty word? ah, yes, those were the good days. NOT!

[clark6466]

Fox News believes it matters - they know alot of religious Americans are Muslim haters and want them to hate Obama. But they tried to get sneaky and blame their revelation on the Clinton camp, hoping nobody would notice they fronted this PHONY Story (only needed a little checking 2 verify it).

One media was good and tries to tell us the truth, while the other is evil because they knowingly lie and distort to help repub politicians, which is their whole mission in life - Know the difference.

[adams73]

I appreciate your argument and i do agree with you, thanks.

[TMack222]

at 335 he goes:at cnn we did what any serious news org. is supposed to do in this type of situation...we actually actually conducted an exclusive first hand investigation. Oh Snap Wolf! ZIIIING!

[clark6466]

That was just to say that Fox does NOT conduct any investigating of the facts before they front them.

Why do the fox fans let them get away with their completely discredited monikers like "fair and balanced ". The worst lie has to be "Fox news, Real Journalism". They are spitting in the eyes of their poor followers, who cant know what real journalism is.

[zufallx]

You seem to forget the entire CBS Nightly News scandal about unfounded rumors concerning Bush's military records.

The point is, every network is capable of messing up when they think they have a 'scoop'

I'd also like to point out, on a completely different subject, that Ted Turner owns both CNN and Cartoon Network. When their publicity stunt went awry for that dumb cartoon, CNN hardly touched the story after it became public that it was a Time/Warner mess up. Talk about fair reporting.

[tingtangs]

CBS? CNN? Two differing letters might be too complicated for some :D

[zufallx]

Do you have something to add, or are you just posting to see your own reply?

[tingtangs]

Pointing to CBS to discredit CNN is dishonest.

[zufallx]

Pointing to a liberal to discredit a liberal is not dishonest. It's logic.

[tingtangs]

It's logicness! It's truthiness! It's brainwashed religiousness!

[LanysNevelesser]

Does that mean I can point to Hitler to discredit the Administration?

Oh wait...he was big on public spending, wasn't he? Guess Hitler was a liberal after all...

[wntoply6]

No, LanysNevelesser, but i believe he was initially a christian...a catholic no less.

[GrownupPhan]

The idea that mainstream media outlets are "liberal" is a highly debatable point. I personally would say it's false.  They certainly are NOT interchangeable.

[nohenshaw]

Hillary Clinton is a PC and Barack Obama is a Mac

[LanysNevelesser]

Consider the source. Why was Fox News created? What purpose does it serve?

Its primary purpose was not just reporting the news. Read up and be disturbed.

[GrownupPhan]

Ted Turner hasn't had much of anything to do with CNN since the AOL merger.

[bryanao]

Fox fans enjoy Truthiness: To know something intuitively, instinctively, or "from the gut" without regard to evidence, logic, intellectual examination, or actual facts.

[NotWillieMason]

Direct research: Still the best way to make unsubstantiated rumours look ridiculous.

[aeonhunter]

this reminds me how much I hate fox news

[miltonandmichele]

I am sitting here laughing @ how ridiculous these attempts to smear this man are. His name?! His ears?! his elementary school FORTY YEARS AGO?! You're kidding me! Look, any candidate's background is fair game, but when you have to make stuff up, it's sad. What this is telling me is he is legit & has a lot of people scared (Clinton included)!

[iSatisfied]

Is obvious propaganda, sarcasm. By your capital words is obvious that you seek attention. By your foul language is obvious that you lack proper vocabulary. By your unjustified claims shows your ignorance. Perhaps CNN is not perfect, but this time they cleared up a false rumor by very real interviews.

[adams73]

satisfied you must have misunderstood me. i like senator obama so much im just mad at the way cnn is contradicting itself. They were just connecting obamas name 2 osama that really sucks. Thats why i dont believe anything they have 2 say.

[clark6466]

What part sucks and why?

CNN is correcting what Fox did, when they insinuated he went to a school that many Americans think are anti-American.

CNN produced the facts that show this wasn't the case.

Can you compare what Fox and CNN did here, to show you understand what you're talking about. If you like Obama, you'd appreciate CNN helping to clear up Fox's deliberatly negative distortion about him.

[Filby]

I believe that someone else made the "Osama" crack, and CNN just reported it.

[GrownupPhan]

Right. It was a headline in a paper owned by Murdock.

[AngryPirateProd]

Obama will be president because any mud that you sling at him hits the thrower back in the face. If this is the best they can do, the right is in deep trouble. What do they do when they find that Obama is squeaky clean?

[irishemo]

Old Media Sucks! New Media Rules....

[MonkeyInRedShirt]

RUN!!! is this all they have on you....nothing?

[ladygc419]

That's Bushit! I'm with him 120%!

[bobinmass]

Typical right wing baloney - they have no ethics, just what is expected of the right.

[wntoply6]

yeah bobinmass, but what gets me most about the right, is they claim to have "god on their side". this is suppose to mean whatever they say is true (even if it's a bold face lie). the hight of hypocracy from these ingorant, bigoted, lying, led by the nose neo con SO CALLED CHRISTIANS.

[LanysNevelesser]

There are a lot of Christians who don't appreciate being used to make a political point. We will rise up one day and end this politicised nonsense.

[wntoply6]

also lanysNevelesser, the best thing you can do for your nutty group is to keep your ignorant religious beliefs to yourself...we don't want to hear about em, and most of all, your need to impose your backward beliefs on others is what is dividing this country. so again, sit down and shut the hell up.

[LanysNevelesser]

Awesome. I think this is the first time I've been completely misinterpreted on the internet. That must be a record or something.

Religion lays out principles we try to adhere to, politics reaches agreement at the cost of some principle. The two don't mix.

[wntoply6]

if i misunderstood what you said lanysneverless, i apologize. it seemed you were defending the christian right for being in politics, that they don't like being criticized (which sorely needs to be done if they are in politics), and that they will rise up and put a stop to their criticism. it that is not what you said, again sorry.

[drivin98]

People still waste their time watching Fox "News"? Pity.

[soreality]

does any one of u know that *ANY* school is called madrassa in arabic..

IMHO, this whole arguement is idiotic. and is using ppl's ignorant for unholy reasons.

a person's deeds speaks of a person's convection.

[clark6466]

(I dint know)

So, we all went to Elementry and High Madrassas - or is it only a Madrass if its an Islamic school (no such thing as a Catholic madrass).

As usual, Fox Opinion News is taking advantage of people's ignorance that they help to propagate. They are Loathe to ever inform their dumbed down base of the facts because they wont be as easy to manipulate, if they do.

[Magusstryfe]

obama rocks

[eulalio02]

the issue is not that they didnt name their sources but rather that the story claimed the school was a "Madrassa" and it was completely false! Now that shows a lack of journalistic integrity to print something so obviously false without investigating the truth. You know...Veritas...Truth...like your name says it.

[veritasangelus69]

Third: to claim that this story raises question on journalistic because they do not name their sources is the hypocrisy at its best. Did Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein reveal their sources in Watergate? What about the New York times in their countless of articles on the U.S. intelligence community activities during the Bush administration? Nope a double standard

[NotWillieMason]

So people are risking their careers and accusations of subverting national security by 'exposing' the school a 6-year-old Barack Obama went to? Nup. Doesn't wash.

[CelebrityHotTub]

Come on, 69. You've been replied to...

[eulalio02]

his parents can name him whatever he wants...the only reason people are getting riled up is because his middle name is also the name of a dictator that the US itself put into power in the 80's to fight the Russians...

so what is a secular name? John? Paul? etc? these names aren't either...they come straight from the bible.

who cares what happened when he or you or i went to elementary school. what matters are his positions on the issues TODAY!

[miltonandmichele]

EXACTLY!

[veritasangelus69]

First: If he was raised as a secular child, why was he given the name Barack Hussain Obama. That is not a secular name. Second: you need to look at what was the school teaching 40 years ago, not the present curriculum.

[Magusstryfe]

you are retarded

[barneyfoos]

hahahah, nice point matlock.

1) What does someone's name have to do with anything? That is the most racist piece of garbage. Lets look at your name: veritas angel us 69

Are we to conclude that you are an angel of truth and sexual perversion?

2) Look at what the school was teaching 40 years ago? They did. They found a guy who went to the school and asked him.

Further, just for hilarity, he mentions that WHEN HE WAS 6 years old, 40 years ago, Barack went by the name BARRY!!!

[kraskp]

Barry!? He went by BARRY?! Man... I dunno.. lol. I was all for Barack, that's a great name, but Barry?

[SingleSynapse]

Both my mom and my dad were named from saints. Neither one of them is in the church, so what's your point. Are we to take every Peter as a Catholic fundamentalist?