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From: thomasmatus
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  • I understand Eros to be sexually desirous love (Eros/Cupid), Agape to be unconditional cherishing love (of ultimate concern), and Philia to involve mutual affection, friendship and liking of someone (or liking/loving something).

  • Highly recommended: Bernadette Roberts (former Carmelite Nun) "The Experience of No Self", "The Path To No Self", and as regards her very interesting take on the Trinity "What Is Self ?".

  • @LooksAeterna You asked if I knew Bernadette Roberts. Yes, I was living at New Camaldoli Hermitage in the 1980s, and she came for a while as a guest. She told me about writing her first book while living in her car in a parking lot. High mysticism paired with groundedness.

  • @thomasmatus Thanks for your reply !

    This must have been a few years after her "final breakthrough". I must admit I am an ardent admirer of hers and her truly mystical theology - and hence interested in anything you might have to say about it. Perhaps on PM.

    Please pardon me for "flooding" your channel with comments, but I tend to go through any topic intensely and try to get "finished" with it to the degree it is in my power to do so.

  • People are so wrapped up with the much of the none sense that happens on this site, instead of realizing what it is really doing for all of us.

  • Finally hit the nail on the head. Something I have been trying to tell many people on this site from the very beginning.

    Friendships.

    Music to my ears.

    T

  • Sorry for the rush job Thomas, it is dinner time here in Australia :)

  • We can see examples of this in genesis. Adam can hear god, but never sees him.

  • The jews were characterized by a loyality to love of god. the obedience to law was the culmination of that love. the difference between greek eros and biblical eros can said to be a a difference to do with the law. The jewish law and morals flowing from it were most of all directed toward the family. The ews were characterized by loyalty to love of god and obedience to his law. The greek, on the other hand, is a skeptical investigator, and was defined not by the family, but by the polis.

  • "I am distressde for thee, my brother Jonathan; very pleasant has thou been unto me; wonderful was thy love to me, passing the love of women". This is David to his friend Jonathan, and the only example in the bible of what one could call a friendship. It is an ourage to Saul, that his son (david) prefers his friend to him(father). Saul puts the primarcy of the family ahead of friendship, and this friendship of David and Jonathan can only been seen as a disgrace

  • Thank you!

  • Thanks for the synthesis, Thomas! Friendship does begin to relieve the tension between desire and Love (and that between humanity and God).

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