I recently got to shoot a CZ52 for the first time, and really liked it..... Now I'm looking to buy one or two... The sheet to catch the flying brass is an excellent idea....
Not so if you use a good hollow point desing. 7,62 mm Tokarev has seen fair share of combat use in military conflicts, but I don't recall any reports that it has done worse than other pistol rounds using FMJ bullet. FMJ rounds just tend to over penetrate and lack knock down power in general. Some people seem to think that stopping power is directly proportional to the size of the bore, but that's completely untrue. Stopping power is a combination of many things - most important: hit your target.
I really dig my CZ52. Question - Does the process of shell ejection dent your brass? I can't figure out if they are getting banged up from the gun or from hitting the wall and flying half way across the range.
I do notice a ding form right on the neck of the case. The dies seem to smooth it back out fine, but if it dents in the exact place twice I usually toss it.
I was shooting 13.5 grains of H110 behind the 90 grain hornady XTP bullet. I put little to no crimp on the bullet (to hopefully make my brass last longer.) The brass I used was new from starline.
I have since switched to a lighter load of 11.5 grains of H110. There's a little less recoil and the pistol functions more reliably.
I'd imagine you get a highly erratic muzzle velocity using H110 as that's not meant for pistol calibers such as 7.62x25mm Tokarev. It's more suited for small caliber rifle rounds or really big magnum handguns. Better use something that burns more rabidly to get consistent performance. Also, H110 may not ignite reliably without a magnum primer.
It sounds like you know more about reloading than me, so I'm going to assume that your correct. It would certainly explain the ridiculous muzzle blast! The main reason I used H110 is because I had it setting around.
I actually don't reload for this caliber anymore, as I've found it cheaper to buy bulk milsurp ammo that so far has been pretty darn reliable.
I just purchased my CZ52 few days ago, and now that I've been searching some reloading data it appears that I was wrong: apparently H110 DOES suit 7.62mm Tokarev quite well, which I find amazing considering this powder is normally used for top-end loads for .44 Magnum and the like. But I guess that just goes to show what a great little powerhouse the Tokarev round is. I've read that you can push a 90 grain bullet at velocities well over 2000 fps using H110.
That sheet isnt to catch the brass he is hiding his underground layer for the invasion lol
MrGjordin 11 months ago
I recently got to shoot a CZ52 for the first time, and really liked it..... Now I'm looking to buy one or two... The sheet to catch the flying brass is an excellent idea....
xzqzq 1 year ago
why do you have a blanket next to you
1999JTB1 1 year ago
that gun i love it have one of my own
pimplaylay 1 year ago
I thought that flame throwers were illegal to own.
gnigged68 3 years ago
i love my cz 52 its fun to shoot but the all lack take down power too much penetration for a home defense weapon
sgtzoidberg 3 years ago
Not so if you use a good hollow point desing. 7,62 mm Tokarev has seen fair share of combat use in military conflicts, but I don't recall any reports that it has done worse than other pistol rounds using FMJ bullet. FMJ rounds just tend to over penetrate and lack knock down power in general. Some people seem to think that stopping power is directly proportional to the size of the bore, but that's completely untrue. Stopping power is a combination of many things - most important: hit your target.
litaaq 3 years ago 6
I really dig my CZ52. Question - Does the process of shell ejection dent your brass? I can't figure out if they are getting banged up from the gun or from hitting the wall and flying half way across the range.
nullx2 4 years ago
I do notice a ding form right on the neck of the case. The dies seem to smooth it back out fine, but if it dents in the exact place twice I usually toss it.
austjb 4 years ago
How is the recoil?
Somewhere between 9mm and .40S&W?
ar15ian 4 years ago
It does through the brass to the moon.. LOL Mine throughs it 45 feet into the range parking lot. I hear new wolf springs will fix that
c9ari 4 years ago 2
Sure as hell is.
rggun 4 years ago
My favorite gun ever... Cheap and extremely powerful
VinXLQ1 4 years ago
it's 7.62x25
Badjedidude 4 years ago
what is the ammo in caliber??
smokinspef 4 years ago
Is this ammo usually cheap?
vw117179157 5 years ago
I was shooting 13.5 grains of H110 behind the 90 grain hornady XTP bullet. I put little to no crimp on the bullet (to hopefully make my brass last longer.) The brass I used was new from starline.
I have since switched to a lighter load of 11.5 grains of H110. There's a little less recoil and the pistol functions more reliably.
austjb 5 years ago
I'd imagine you get a highly erratic muzzle velocity using H110 as that's not meant for pistol calibers such as 7.62x25mm Tokarev. It's more suited for small caliber rifle rounds or really big magnum handguns. Better use something that burns more rabidly to get consistent performance. Also, H110 may not ignite reliably without a magnum primer.
mutimassimo 3 years ago
It sounds like you know more about reloading than me, so I'm going to assume that your correct. It would certainly explain the ridiculous muzzle blast! The main reason I used H110 is because I had it setting around.
I actually don't reload for this caliber anymore, as I've found it cheaper to buy bulk milsurp ammo that so far has been pretty darn reliable.
austjb 3 years ago
I just purchased my CZ52 few days ago, and now that I've been searching some reloading data it appears that I was wrong: apparently H110 DOES suit 7.62mm Tokarev quite well, which I find amazing considering this powder is normally used for top-end loads for .44 Magnum and the like. But I guess that just goes to show what a great little powerhouse the Tokarev round is. I've read that you can push a 90 grain bullet at velocities well over 2000 fps using H110.
mutimassimo 3 years ago
what ammo were you using?
rg470dude 5 years ago