Hacked condensate drain - Installed by crack smokers!

[marshalljimduncan]

The peoples elbow

[michaelmerritt45]

Going behind dumb peope just part of the job .looks like money to me . Rip it out. time and materials. all day long.

[redsquirrelftw]

Wow brutal. I'm not a hvac pro, but I knew what was wrong when I saw it. First of all if you vent before the P trap,then what's the point of even having the P trap? LOL

[Fastenjaw]

I loled! XD

[HVACTown]

This is a great display of what goes on way too often in this business. I hope that ALL Installers and Technicians in the future will learn to READ! I have to put this on my website. Please visit my NEW site HVAC Town. com

[Lodizal03]

a P trap doesnt need a goddamned vent PEOPLE!!!! its negative pressure in the cabinet!! u need to keep the drain closed! with a P trap in the line below the drain outlet

[death2opposeme]

flat out i get sick of customers, who cheap the fuckout. pay some motard to ATTEMPT fixing equip four or five times. then call us bigboys to fix there bullshit retard mistakes. i hate goin after someone elses mess. you get what you pay 4. and far as sidejobs. i charge what my company charges. and you get what you pay for. i dont do cheap shit.

[death2opposeme]

thats the most retarded shit i ever seen a drain done. damn! o well easy fix. better than having a dumbass from another company installing a flow control wrong on a chiller. busted the chiller and in return fuck'd the compressors. like a oh, 20,000 dollar fuck up.

[swauss]

Well stop hiring Illegals to do your work!!

[THEtechknight]

i cant stop lauging tears are running down my eyes. lol.... someone was liquored up that day.

[SNL0907]

Hmmm...very artistic. they sort of have a future in modern art.

[MoncriefATL]

Awesome. This is cracking me up!  (no pun intended!)

[drifter1116]

Damn I need to move to AZ!! I could make a fortune fixing those dumbass mistakes.

[101heaters101]

who the fuck cares, fix it right and stop bitchin about people messing up or not knowing how to do stuff....makes more more and more money for the rest of us

[d1incharge]

you are a fckng moron if you think non-liscenced hvac guys doing work for 1/10 of what you would makes you more money somehow.

[101heaters101]

I never said non liscenced hvac guys do work for 1/10th...nor did i think it. Im just saying people do shit even when they have no clue what they are doing, which in the long run, creates more work because their work fails and someone has to do it right. Ya "fuckin moron"

[d1incharge]

I take it you dont run a business you are just a laborer? non liscensed guys ARE doing the work for 1/10 of the cost. Then they are doing the repair. How the hell is the avg costumer going to know that you will do it right? You want people to suffer high bills, poor indoor air quality, possible water damage, because you are ignorant enough to believe that YOU will be the one fixing the fckd up work and not the same guy that did it. How nice.

[101heaters101]

Im a master licensed service technician, and yes i am a laborer to a certain extent. But hey i cant stop the little guy from takin your work from you. And yes, i dont care if someones house gets ruined! YOU GET WHAT U PAY FOR, ever heard that? That is why when people pay "1/10th of the price" they should know that the person isnt licensed or even qualified to scoop shit off a lawn. Not my fault your getting beat out by crack smokers.

[101heaters101]

Oh, I may be ignorant, but atleast I know how to spell "customer." I bet the non licensed guys can spell better than you, and your a business owner? LOL nice, you fail.

[HVACRat]

Good stuff Brutha, keep 'em comin!

Re: P-Traps to TexasHomeInspector; The purpose of a P-Trap is to prevent air infiltration/exfiltration into or out of the airhandler (furnace or fancoil). The P-Trap makes an airtight seal with water, thereby keeping the air in (blow through coil) or out (draw through coil). Prime the trap with mineral oil; it will not wash out and will keep the trap wet through the Winter months. All OEMs require a P-Trap whether they are draw through or blow through coils.

[hackfreehvac]

Wow I've never heard of the mineral oil idea before. How does it stay in the trap?

[HVACRat]

Oil is lighter than water so the water simply slides beneath the oil leaving it in the trap. If the trap is too short for the static pressure of the unit, it will blow out; just like water. But if the trap holds water then it will hold mineral oil as well. Just re-prime once or twice a year during PMs to get rid of dirt, like normal.

[hackfreehvac]

Ah nice info. The trap needs to be a deep one then. Makes sense.

[DHumps82]

Will the oil also inhibit algae growth? If so then you wouldn't have to "bleach" the lines every month in summer.

[TexasHomeInspector]

In Austin TX area everything goes into the attic (water heater, HVAC w/filters, etc.) in new construction. Primary drain is required to be vented, blows cold air into attic, attic is required to be vented to exterior which sucks hot air into attic, hot and cold air mixture usually creates rain.

Question, why is the primary drain from this video even trapped? Water from vent evaporates during not use periods, expecially winter when furnace runs.

[hackfreehvac]

Maybe you are used to all furnace installs with the evap coil installed in the supply section. In that case there is no real reason for a trap. However on these heat pumps the evap coil is BEFORE the blower, therefor in a lower pressure than outside the unit. The unit sucks air INTO the drain line. Without a trap and then a vent the water will not drain at all in many cases until it overflows the inside pan or until the blower stops then allowing it to drain.

[TexasHomeInspector]

1st of all your videos are great. I agree with what you say, however, it's the drain vent that prevents a vacuum from occuring in the drian, not the trap. Traps are to prevent air/gas backflow, but during furnace use, the trap is dry.

Also, a common error - the a/c tech caps the primary vents to preventn air loss (or suction). Walked into a new home this summer where the ceiling colapsed. Attic HVAC had capped vents, water backed up in the the defective water pan and into house. Thanks again!

[hackfreehvac]

On a heat pump with the coil on the return side of the blower you MUST have a trap, and of course a vent after the trap. A vent alone will NOT work. Because the air pulling INTO the vent will prevent the water from draining out of the drain pan. At least until the blower stops. Coils installed in a furnace supply side don't need a trap or a vent to drain because they have pressure, not suction. But they usually install them anyway if code wants one.

[d1incharge]

How did the drip pan fail in new const? I thought the way he did it in this video was perfect? Even if the drain vent was plugged, I too do alot of Austin attic work and there always seems to be air coming out of those vents, so even if you capped them outside of the unit, how does that keep them from draining? How do you get suction in a line with air pressure?

[JumpStop1]

why did i watch this... i don't work in HVAC.

[hackfreehvac]

Maybe you did a search for a "Crack Pipe"?

[JumpStop1]

thats how i came across it, by searching crack videos but, i don't know why i watched it

[hackfreehvac]

Well hopefully it's not because YOU are using a crack pipe! :-o LOL!

[radiomike69]

That is sooo funny!!

[coldthunder31]

omg that gave me a good laugh.

[hackfreehvac]

It sure made me laugh. :)

[astranine]

Why is Phoenix using these units for residential roof installs?

[hackfreehvac]

They have been for 30+ years. But most newer "Split Systems" are worse because 99% of them have the furnace or A/H up in a nasty hot attic!

Phoenix builders don't like to give up a closet to make it safer for a tech to service the equipment! :(

[astranine]

When you have a split unit the AH does not take up that much room. There are no real good reasons for installing one in the attic and many good reasons for installing one in the conditioned space. My neighbor built a 6000 square foot home and guess where his air handlers are? He just had to have that extra space, I guess. Nice series of videos you have here. Fun to watch.

[hackfreehvac]

Thanks! :)

Dang, 6,000 sq ft and still stuck them in the attic. See, some people have no common sense!

[butterknife130]

Yea I work in ACs and Refrigeration and the shit you see is fucking incredible. LMFAO some guy is like "oh my AC not working". We go to the roof and there are pigeons sleeping inside the fucking condenser unit. I was laughing in his face lmao

[hackfreehvac]

LOL! I hate Pigeons. Feed them bastards some MAGIC CORN :) Or soem Alkeseltzer inside some bread and give them some water to drink!

[tattzrus]

might as well just let it drip on the roof haha

[hackfreehvac]

That first drain was probably the most SAD attempt of a drain I have ever witnessed.

[akshona]

Did he at least use a piece of his brillo pad for a vent screen?

[hackfreehvac]

Brillo Pad? I never see that done. Is that something they really do in your area or were you joking?

[akshona]

We actually do zip tie metal screen over the vents sometimes to keep out the creepy crawlies. But not brillo from a crack pipe :)

[gavincurtis]

Damn methheads..

[hemiownzu]

All they needed was a cleanout tee, p trap and an elbow.. what a bunch of dumbasses.

[hackfreehvac]

Well that first unit had all of those things. :p But the dumb ass put them in the wrong order and used the p-trap to go downhill! Clearly they don't require minimum SKILLS to hire someone to do installs around here!

[coolbluelights]

hey just checking out your vids here it's good that you show how it's supposed to be installed, so us noobs can see the diference^^ but even an untrained eye can spot the obvious screwups here! way to go!

[hackfreehvac]

Thanks! "but even an untrained eye can spot the obvious screwups here! " Exactly! I can't believe them guys thought that was ok.

[cutlassmountain]

they must of run out of pvc fittings

[hackfreehvac]

Maybe. But I dunno. Looked tlike there was enough there to reverse the FIRST one and make it go the proper way through the trap! LOL! :)

[smoothsmoothie2]

what..the..fuck..is..that..lol­,classic.

[hackfreehvac]

You should have seen MY surprise when I pulled the armo-flex away form that pipe! :)

[PLUMBdogg]

Plumbers Local 75 represent! Installing hack free plumbing everyday!

[hackfreehvac]

LOL! Yeah this was done by NON UNION HVAC techs. They obviously don't realize that water flows downhill! (gravity). BTW, AZ PipeTrades Local 469 here. :)

[gavincurtis]

When your high in crack, laws of gravity no longer apply.

[hackfreehvac]

LOL! Either that, or you have a boss in Sun City West that never wants an installer to ever leave the job for the correct parts!

[zorthous17]

holy crap what was the point of it, would have been better to just dump the pipe straight out of the unit.

[hackfreehvac]

Pretty much!

[topezlightning]

lol i see this garbage every day.Keep making the videos!!!

[hackfreehvac]

I sure will. Although I don't work WITH hacks anymore now. All commercial jobs now. And these commercial accounts are too big to do the shit I had previously witnessed by residential HVAC companies in Phoenix!

[1502shado]

jest fix the shit

[hackfreehvac]

That was a retarded thing to say. No wonder we have so many unskilled in the industry, with attitude like that!

[reefersneaker]

lol that p-trap is the best thing i have ever seen... what were they thinking??

[hackfreehvac]

They were thinking..."How do you construct a p-trap again? Oh yeah. I'll just model this here contraption after my crack pipe I sucked on before I came to work today!"

[wheelbaron]

ROFLOL