haha bell test

[DethklawExodus]

code 7is super rare for a fire alarm system

[Netscape128]

@DethklawExodus Can you read the description? He put it in walk test and activated Zone 7.

[Netscape128]

@Netscape128 The panel itself might be in Simple Coding, though.

[funnykid31o0]

nice echo

[rojabanoo]

your nahtey

[jacktd3]

What coding does it do if you press drill on the panel?

[twoplyboy]

@jacktd3 I really dont know! I Would say quick march.;

[jacktd3]

@twoplyboy Ok.

[mikemadealarms]

@twoplyboy I read in the really really old scanned Simplex 4002 manual that if the panel is coded for simple coding, it do the old standard Continues or I like to call it Non-Coded.

[Firelitestar5210]

nice i like tht wheelock mt mix with the other alarms :)

[mikemadealarms]

Was that an Weelock MT in the hallway after you came put of the gym?

[Are44441]

i want 9834t

[espiforenque]

I can only imagine the elaborate superstitions made up by the kids at this school regarding what the different zone codes mean. Does it sound five times only on Wednesdays? When it's rainy outside? Do four beeps mean that it's a real fire, or is that six beeps?

[Are44441]

brb

[hyperbaricchicken101]

What was that thing sitting by the panel at 5:01?

[goldeneyeplayer]

on the panel what does walk test mean?

[twoplyboy]

@goldeneyeplayer walktest means you can test the fire alarm alone. The fire alarm rings out the zone number thats in alarm and it resets itself for the next alarm and you continue on doing it over. As each zone changes so does the amount or rings the fire alarm sends out.

[hyperbaricchicken101]

There's only one wheelock? Why?

[Gb755c]

Why is that alarm doing a code-7?

[coffeeandsugar20]

@Gb755c Oh my god...

[phonzy98]

hey man nice vids you posted

[NEVDAVS1970]

I saw a Wheelock AS, but no strobe.

[wileyk209zback]

There's a building at my friend's college that has a Simplex 4002 system, but it has 4051+4050-80 horn/lights and 4251-30 break-glass pulls (the 4002 is also tied into an old Simplex 4208 panel used as a junction box).

[aurora990]

@tobester1998 oh I see. thanks.

[firelitealarms997]

at 3:42 the alarm sound kool

[aurora990]

it is a bad idea to put a fire alarm next to where it can get damaged the most including next to a basketball hoop unless it has a grille cover to protect the fire alarm.

[B0BBY77]

why do none of these have strobes? are canadian alarms different? jw no harsh feelings

[MircomFan]

@B0BBY77 I dont know why. Im from canada, and I hardly see any strobes. Not where he lives, i live in southern ontario (near the usa borders)

[B0BBY77]

alright i didn't mean any hard feelings

[SystemSensor224]

lol, I see you had some breakrod troubles at the beginning.

[buddynnn]

at 4:09, its my fav

[buddynnn]

what horns come in 12VDC?

[coffeeandsugar20]

Many. System Sensor P12XXX, Wheelock XX-12,

[eclire123455]

when it beps 7 times everyone will know which sone has been activate it

[tshirtjay]

These things sound awesome in the gymnasium.Reminds me of when I was in elementary school but at that time they set the alarms on constant.Used to be terrified of these thing now I think there cool.

[cubsrule2040]

did you go to that school (the one in this movie)?

[tshirtjay]

No not this school.This school has the same alarms as my old elementary school.Same model,same tone,it's just they were set to constant.Hell I used to have nightmares about these things,sounds pretty stupid huh? But not any more.

[cubsrule2040]

I used to be scared of the Wheelock 7002T, but not anymore

[tshirtjay]

Same here.I think it's because it was the more common one.

[cubsrule2040]

more common than the Simplex 9838?

I'm looking for a 9838, and let me know if there's one on eBay?

[tshirtjay]

You got it.

[firealarm719]

what will it do if you press hold 3 sec. for man. evac.?

[brownguyrav2007]

So when you activated the first device which initially sounded the alarms it did the 7 on off 7on off code, what would happen if a device on another zone activated with a different code number? say zone seven triggered first doing the 7 code, then say zone 3 activated... Would the code change from zone 7 to zone 3???

[staffxsarge]

great coding

[staffxsarge]

why do you keep saying bell test when

theres either 1 or 0 bells around LoL

[zlkbfflwithkristen]

i thought he deleted this comment.

[staffxsarge]

sounds like music

[firealarmfreak529]

9838s?

[staffxsarge]

yes they are 9838s one of them aren't

and one of them sond like a wheelock

7002t

[firealarmfreak529]

yea, one of them is a wheelock at 2:13

[cubsrule2040]

4:02 is the 9838 sounding like a 7002T

[bigbluecrane5]

we will call it a 9802t lol

[ProwerBot]

More like the 9834t because the 7002t has a strobe

[bigbluecrane5]

lol

[cubsrule2040]

I was going to mention that but the 9838 at 4:02 sounds like a 7002T the the pitch bends at the beginning of each pulse

[staffxsarge]

i know geeze. u must have read my comment wrong

[staffxsarge]

i know im not stupid

[cubsrule2040]

I know

[cubsrule2040]

yeah

[Firelitestar5210]

i like this coding i want 2 get this on my panel....

[cubsrule2040]

as far as I know, you can only get it on the Simplex 4002. Otherwise you'd have to manually connect and disconnect.

I didn't have a panel when I did this to my 7002T

[firealarmteen133]

these fire alarms sound like the detroit redwings buzzer

[jjinc24]

stupid breakrod. lol

[Firelitestar5210]

lol...

[NickyVeee]

That's why most building managers/land lords warn occupants of fire alarm testing beforehand, so they know not to evacuate the building if the fire alarm has been sounded, for a certain duration of time. Most of this can be done by fliers, word of mouth, emails, intercom address, etc.

Great video by the way!

[twoplyboy]

thanks!

[NJFire1906]

love the video! i also like how it rings 7 times for zone 7. say, it was like in zone 6, would it sound 6 times?

[cubsrule2040]

Well, most elementary schools don't have lockers. As twoplyboy said, it used to be a middle school. Normally, you wouldn't find lockers in schools until you get to middle school.

My K-6 didn't have lockers, neither did the other four elementary schools in the district I live in

[firealarmfreak529]

haha code 7 lol

[alarm997]

i want a simplex 4002 and the ring 7 times for zone 7 is can be turned off right and put on to march time or code 3 right?

[cubsrule2040]

you can manually connect and disconnect do simulate zone 7 on your fire alarms. Watch my video where I simulated zone 7 with my 7002T

[cubsrule2040]

At 4:02, there's a 9838 that sounds like a 7002T and skips at the beginning of every pulse

[markzins]

tell me i was always wondering whats the diferece between a class A and class B NAC

[twoplyboy]

class A you would have the field wires come back to the panel and tie into the same nac zone(you use all 4 slots) and where class B(you use 2 slots) you use an EOL at the end of the field wiring, the main difference between A and B is that when you have a open with an EOL the one side will work up to the open point and other side wont activate. where you have class A if there is a open anywhere it will all work because it feeding at both ends of the +/-

[willbill808]

class A and B IDCs work the exact same way. Same thing with SLCs.

Style 4 SLCs is just Class B. Style 6 is class A.

There is a Style 7 SLC... isolator modules must be placed on each side of EVERY addressable device on the circuit! Certainly gets expensive. Style 7 SLC wiring is really only used on government and military facilities.

[twoplyboy]

i believe that every addressable panel now must use isolaters. this is for any building.

[coffeeandsugar20]

What an echo...

[pivotous]

WHOA! a Wheelock MT on a Simplex 4002?!?!

[NewAgeServer]

It's replacing an old, broken horn.

[cubsrule2040]

Any fire alarm can go on a Simplex 4001 or 2004. Have you seen danll5 connect his 7002T to his 4005?

[pivotous]

well, no, because i saw only 3 of his videos the day before he had to quit making videos.

[nckek]

cool! I really like this coding.

[cubsrule2040]

I did the same coding with my Wheelock 7002T except I manually connected and disconnected since I don't have a panel.

[goingcommando6]

loud alarm

[SilentXKnight5204]

Isn't this coding called simple coding?

[pivotous]

no, it's one of the SEVERAL numerical codings. this would be Code 7.

[SilentXKnight5204]

Which I think would be Simple Coding... because on the Simplex 4001 and 4002 it rings whatever zone number it's coming through...

[kenshin891]

Tha old, black panel you said about sounds like a 2001. Is it still there or has it been replaced?

[twoplyboy]

that was about a year ago. yeah I'd imagine it still is. worked fine for me.

[Capt421]

is this at a high school or elementary school

[twoplyboy]

it used to be an intermediate school now just a elementary school with a pre-school.

[cubsrule2040]

i was guessing it would've been a middle school because there's lockers at 2:53

[cubsrule2040]

Must be extremely loud in the gym

[Capt421]

awesome videos. Do you ever do testing at any places that have the wheelock 7002t hornstrobes?

[jjinc24]

What was the horn's model # at 2:21 because A-My elementary school had those for outside signals, and B-It's different than everything else in the system. Also, does Simplex make weatherproof signals? Because my current school has TrueAlert horns outside, but they have this weather plate on all of them but one because it is on the baseball field. IDK why I wrote all that crap.

[cubsrule2040]

Wheelock MT horn.  I'm amazed that Canada doesn't put strobes on fire alarms. The 9838s should have strobes

[Wilby1977]

@cubsrule2040 England and Canada do not do the strobe thing for fear it will trigger someone to have a siezure and with the free healthcare they are not gonna pay for that now are they?

[cubsrule2040]

@Wilby1977 I know now, but here in the US we have strobes because the ADA requires it. Alarms are to have clear lenses rather than translucent ones as people feared the latter would give people seizures

[kenshin891]

Have you ever worked on any REALLY old panels (like the simplex 4208)?

[twoplyboy]

no i cant say I have. I did work on a old simplex panel that was all black and you removed the fuse to disable the bells ccts.

[wiley207]

Didn't you do another video of this school before? I have to admit I like it when they revisit the same place for fire alarm test vids

[twoplyboy]

nope the first time ive been here.

[wiley207]

OK. It's just that you did a video of Simplex 4002 school that had -9838s and a Wheelock MT

[cubsrule2040]

The 9838s sound like Wheelock 34Ts

[cmarlow480]

another thing if you listen at the end.... the box thats in the wall.. the um... whatever its called you can clearly hear its beeping to MARCH TIME.... exactly.....

[twoplyboy]

the panel buzzer is beeping in march time.

[weatherdan882002]

It's the panel alarm tone on the 4002 - it cannot be changed, unless you REALLY know how to get into the programming of the 4002.

[NewAgeServer]

Zack tells me there is a small jumper on the back of the 4002's motherboard that sets thr alarm tone pattern

[cmarlow480]

see that makes no sense why would it be in march time if the horns are doing code 7?

[thesdx]

All 4002 buzzers do march time, regardless of the signal coding.

[twoplyboy]

the two are not related at all.

[willbill808]

lol now what would it do if you activated multiple zones in this mode? It would probably just sound out the zone of the first one activated...

[twoplyboy]

so you mean before its silenced and another alarm comes in? I have no idea. I would love to try it but the testing has already been done.

[willbill808]

yeah... well its all good man.

haha I could tell that was after 24 hrs of no AC... the piezo was struggling to sound.

[twoplyboy]

i dont think you can tell but there is layer upon layers of electrical tape over it!!

[SimplexFreak]

sounds awesome

[markzins]

thats something new

[JoeWest580]

never heard of code 7 but hey I learned it from watching this video

[twoplyboy]

it rings for the zone that the alarm came in. so it's not code 7. if it was in zone 4 it would ring 4 times and so on...

[cubsrule2040]

is zone 1 continuous?

[coffeeandsugar20]

Zone 1 is one full blast. Think of it as code-3, but it only does one horn pulse.

[cubsrule2040]

oh. I was right about it when I hand-coded it on my 7002T.

[weatherdan882002]

Are you sure it's not programmed for simple coding?

[Xsk8r114]

Belive it or not its not Code 7 its acually simplex coding, meaning that it will code the alarms to whatever zone is activated which in this video happens to be zone 7 as what I can see on the panel. Good video though

[twoplyboy]

hahahaha you are absolutely right! lol....all i kept saying to myself was this is weird. i have another vid when i do the subsequent and it only rings 4 times. i never noticed it when I was on site!! when I hear bells ringing i dont count...i just make sure it works.

[twoplyboy]

even at first when started it and the horns stopped..i thought the batteries died. they were swollen. this is the first time i have come across this type of coding

[cmarlow480]

ok this is way too weird... ive never heard it do that before

btw.. swollen batteries?

[twoplyboy]

yeah its the first time that a simplex call out the zones before like that for an alarm. yeah the batteries are starting to expand and crack the outter plastic.

[weatherdan882002]

God, how many batteries does that thing need?

[twoplyboy]

it needs 8 6v7.5Ah batteries.

[weatherdan882002]

How come it needs so many? To cover all the zone cards?

[twoplyboy]

i'm sure they maybe could of done away with 4. I have not done my battery calculations yet but you also need power to run a lot of horns to.

[weatherdan882002]

Hmm, usually if that's the case, they just install NAC Power Boosters where they're needed...

[twoplyboy]

the norm for a panel this size is 4 batteries @ 12v. they used 8 6v batteries here. they also installed an adder card for bell cct 3,4.

[cubsrule2040]

Does the 4001 also have zone cards? If it does, then I'd like to make a request: the Wheelock 7002T going off in zone 7

[weatherdan882002]

Nope, no zone cards for the 4001, so the max it can have is 4 zones.

[cubsrule2040]

If you had a 4002, then you'd test your 7002T on zone-7. But zone-4 is OK