Listening Post-Media battle over the torch-18 April 08-Pt1

[jammoexii]

There are PLENTY of legitimate criticisms which can and should be made of the PRC, and as one specific case, its actions in China, some of which are helpful (like setting up social services which did not remotely exist in feudal Tibet) and some of which are unacceptable.

HOWEVER the "protest movement" is largely hypocritical, racist (look carefully and think a bit about the "Yellow Peril"), nationalistic, and meaningless. Yelling in support of power is not admirable.

[jammoexii]

The case against China is completely overstated, especially compared to what's going almost everywhere else in the world. You might notice that it's not the "in" thing anymore to talk about Darfur so no one gives a shit anymore, same with AIDS. No one EVER talked about the civil war in the Congo, the bloodiest conflict since the Vietnam War and before that World War II. There are so many way more important things which receive zero coverage, largely for reasons of empire.

[therepublicofHK]

Jammoexii: 1st, your claim of racism is a nonsensical, likely self-pitying, rationalisation that detracts from the seriousness of genuine racism & ironic given your smug claims of China saving Tibet from itself. 2nd, the CCP rules from Beijing over a vast & diverse people enforcing Han homogeneity over all its people; China is itself a de facto empire. 3rd you comparisons lack relevance. 4th no country is as nationalistic as China proper.

[therepublicofHK]

I empathise with your indignity, I do not fully agree with fervour overseas as it is not constructive, but nationalistic demonstrations in China's capital cities are no better, in fact are more malevolent, even the People's Daily have urged caution.

Ultimately, it is for the Tibetan people to decide how & if it fits into the PRC. It has always been their decision & it is up to China to entice them to do so. Frankly its done a terrible job so far.

Finally; no profanity please

[KNOWYOUNOW]

Cghinese are being evil they must have democracy. How can they expect to be superpower and then get angry when people nottice their evil government. ?:

[Slavesrevolt]

Watch the torch while the elite crime families, in the guise of elected governments, turns the west into a police state.

Keep playing with your balls while the American Military Industrial Complex kills people everyday elsewhere.

[germanberserk]

think they fuckers r trying to get to watch what going on over sea's instead of over here in america.

[EdyPegasus]

Yes, i do feel Tibet should be free. The land is becoming more and more chinese as millions move into this territory. Yet the United States did the same to the native americans. No one was there to stop them. Even today there are Native American Nations that want to be free and independant. Does the US give them at least some land back? No, so the US has nothing to say same as the Chinese. First Americans as a society should fix there own inernal problems and then point there fingers at China!

[USN288]

No In the USA is called Trading Post on Indian Reservation, Which all the natives are on SSI at very Young Age for being Alcohic, a Fixed Income for Life with the Reservations in Canada/USA...is just like being in the Fed.Correction Center Which American Country Club (Jails)

[EdyPegasus]

No one should boycott the Olympics, the only group at fault is the Olympic Committee For choosing China for the '08 Olympics. And if a Country decides to use this as the lever to help Tibet, then they are at fault. It will not help much, hurt a lot and this action should have taken place before there was a planned Olympics in China.

[stevewestwood2007]

..it doesn't matter what part of the world your from... the media always bends the the truth...if china is the honourable country it portrays...they would allow Tibet there freedom and independance......they must listen too what the people are saying not what the media portrays..and.all this unnecessary..global unrest would be avoided...and a peacful olympic cames would be able to proceed....

[chefsanders70]

China is the biggest threat to world peace.

[andreleroux12]

Nope, I think it is the US

[KNOWYOUNOW]

President Bush and China are a threat.

[btigtime]

Anyone noticed there are two Jokers on the Flag of Tibet? Where is Batman when you need him?