Kweli nyani haoni umbile. Some people are out here admonishing others for use of curse words where as all over youtube their comments are full of dirty language. Talk of having a log in your eye but talking about a speck in your colleague's eye. Please let us show some maturity when commenting on issues. You dont have to use abusive language to drive your point home. It is highly primitive and barbaric to use such kind of language! Imagine talking such a language to your father or mother!
@siasabora. It has been my song since I started commenting on Youtube. I abhor all dirty or offensive talk. But the dirty language by some characters overwhelms me. I would spend my whole life commenting or cautioning these characters because dirty language seems to be their culture. I wonder when people will learn to cease from such primitivity. You know well and you have read my comments here admonishing such characters. I bet such people are cowards and they cant say such things in public!
@buashraf: Absolutely with you on that on! Point them out. Sometimes the combined onslaught of sober and cool headed readers will drives the point home or scare the unsavoury away!
I'd rather we go in the opposite direction. Embrace Somalis of all stripes. Give them ID's ata kama ni wa kutoka Djibouti. I used to rent my properties for almost nothing until Somalis began leaving North Eastern and Somalia now a room earns 10 times more than 1994 even when adjusted for massive after Goldeberg inflation. Na chakula yao sio mbaya kwako.
@tyty: No one has a problem with genuine honest enterprising immigrants! Law and Order of a host nation must at all times be paramount! We can compete businesslike, with anyone. However, pirates' investments have distorted our micro/macro-economics! I call 'em Economic Crimes!
@siasabora you are having a pedestrian view about the economy. At a time when governments are injecting econ.stimulus to jumpstart ailing economies, thanks to the recession,you cant just dismiss investors.The govt through its institution like CBK should be able to detect the so"called pirates money" if indeed we have credible and competent institutions-given the performance of the immigration and internal security dept,i doubt there are capable institutions.
@daddykliffhanger.... ur missing the point!!! Kenyans are deported everyday from majuu. am a cleaner at Jomo Kenyatta airport, so trust me. illegal migrant have to stay in refugee camps near Somali border....
This is sad and I'm ashamed of my country for conducting this kind of thoughtless, emotion driven operations just because they can. I realize their had to be a response from the government following the violent demonstrations, which I was strong opposed to, but these mass arrests and harrassment of Somalis is an overeaction. Stop destroying lives of people who are an asset to the country's economy. How will Kenyan feel, if over a million of its citizens living abroad illegally got deported?
Racial profiling is wrong, and persons should feel safe in their own homes without fear of arbitrary searches and arrests. It's important for the police to have probable cause, or a search warrant, or an arrest warrant before they can legally force their way into private property. These are universal liberties that Kenya should strive for. Target criminal aliens, and even though the law allows for deportation of illigal immigrants these mass arrests are in inhuman and reckless.
Take this somalis out of the cities,they arenot allowed tobe in the cities in the first place,their UNHCR documents allows them to get their ration of food and other help.Take them all out of nairobi and let them deal with the boranas and the samburus.They know those guys don;t bembelza them like we did.We make a huge mistake for treating them well and like humns only to turn back and call us names using their religion.You got to go.We helped the police coz they stopped us from going to work.!
Give the guys credit.They have been able to turn the sprawling eastleigh slums to a modern shopping centre famous in East n central Africa.They are a victim of their own success.They should consider downgrading their investments and relocate to more investor friendly countries.The locals are comfortable with the exploitation by Asian business men.
@MvKuku: I do agree with you, as an expert in Investment i can confidently tell you that Kenya will experience unprecedented capital flight coupled with falling property prices, already the investors in dubai are holding back due to the unmitigated/ble political risk. Hope TZ and UG will grab this opportunity...
@Siasabora: Not all of it is blood money, and when i made the above statement its only because am talking from a point of experience and my substantial involvement in venture capital, private equity investments... mainly in the middle east, some investors have had to hold back their investments and are now shifting their focus to Rwanda, and Uganda, So my brother u jst cant say we dont want blood and simply accept a beggar status... NO thats is not how to go about it...
nairobi(since 1970's) i hear somalis say why is it kenyans don't have a problem when indians,the arabs and whites were running things but us as a fellow africans we are treated different.even if you show your kenyan birth certificate,native kenyans still see us as
@siasabora, Socially secluded, politically marginalized, economically deprived, culturally depersonalized and religiously threatened, the unjustly targeted masses of the Kenyan periphery have become shadowy figures confined in the realm of inexistence for many long decades. and thats what we are witnessing now. i hope u will respond with some intellect.
@tritac Breath in Out! Now whenever I walk into any small town and Prison conspicuously visible is a Mosque anywhere in Kenya! Earlier I went to school with Zuhuras, Zainabu, Hassanis and Juma! No Problem. 2009 enter Faisal- enter hatred! What happened, Tritac?
@Siasabora, Sheikh Abdullah Al-Faisal´s imprisonment is in itself a minor and marginal issue. One can describe it as the evident peak of a huge, mostly hidden, iceberg. What was done against Islam, and above all, against Somali Muslims´ rightful desire to politically, culturally and nationally express themselves has been violated, nevertheless i do agree with u about the mosks but wat became of the ordinary kenyans to side with the police??
@tritac: I agree that was very very wrong civilians getting involved! Two wrongs don't make a right! It wz mob mentality....it just happened 'spontaneously' as my RV warlords love saying after they beat their fellow Kenyans!
let us admit this is a poor example of our immigration services. all this could have been solved if the govt issued a refugee card and vet those who can contribute to our economy vs those who cannot. lakini this has come about because of corruption. all of a sudden one mad sheikh arrives in kenya, and the security services are rounding up everybody. poor governance and immigration management.
Hii ni ushenzi ya Saitoti. Most Somalis are here bcos of chaos in their country and are trying to better themselves. Kama Saititi ameacha our borders wide open, then dont victimize individuals who walk in. It is also our failure as kenyans to elect able leaders. Kama the "walalos" r not commiting crimes currently, LEAVE THEM ALONE! Go to the border and prevent others from coming.
Its time black muslims in kenya rise up and take charge of islam in kenya.Enough of over 5centuries of arab control.Lead by kimathis black need to represent kenyan islam not arab or somalis.!
I feel sorry for my fellow somali's this is real bad, the question is who told you to make so much money and flash it like that? why dint you vote for Kibaki... Y ODM? You see all this is coming bak to us... Couldn't help noticing how much the rest of Kenyan pple hate us this is truly a time for reflection and reconsideration...
@tritac: Upuzi: It has nuthin to do with ur voting...mngengolewa 2009! Yu waved that Alshaabab flag in the streets of Nairobi....that's when yu crossed the line! Chezeni ngoma!
Management by Crisis. Is this when we ralize that there are many illegal foreigners in Kenya? What about the many Ethiopians and Eritreans and Nigerians? Only Somalis and Congolese? Haapaana!
what ever agenda kenya govt may have, i feel this is best opportunity for somalia to seek peace and make a compromise, somalis should also boycott the use mirra. iteere has a big mirra farm in lare and this could have being the best way to bite him back.
Somalis need to to stop complaining, if you know that you are a kenyan why should you get worried when you are stopped simply show your ID. It seem as if you are harbouring these illegals thats why you are shouting showing black teeth.
This standard security operation,it is common every where in the world so long as you call yourself a nation.Nations are determined by borders not race or ethinicities.Kenya is neighbor to so many countries with ethinicities extending to the neighboring country but non has abused those international laws like somalis.Kenyans have been so kind to them untill,they started hauling insults and claiming to spread their slave traders religion and culture!!
Just curious! How about arresting Uncle Moody? He is Ugandan. His brother Aggrey Awori is an mp in Uganda. Miguna Miguna too carries two passports and is working in Kenya illegally! :-)
@buashraf Moody's brother being Ugandan does not make him ugandan too... get concrete evidence before you speak such things in public. Miguna was born in Nyando, how does that make him unkenyan?
@jakothoth. Which evidence do you have to prove that Uncle Moody is a Kenyan? Is it because he has been a Kenyan MP for ages? Or is it because he was a VP? If that is the case, do you remember Kaunda's predicament in Zambia? True, Miguna was born in Nyando but we also have Qataris who were born in Kenya!
Just in case you are not conversant with the Law,Miguna has a double citizenship which is illegal in kenya notwithstanding whether he was born in nyando or anywhere else.you have to renounce your citizenship to acquire another citizenship
was uncle moody throwing stones in Nairobi last week?
We have no problems with immigrants if they can come to our country and abide by the laws of the land. the only problem is when let them in and they abuse that hospitality, rioting in the streets flying al shabaab flags, shooting our police officers and turning nairobi to mogadishu.
@karuitha. Get things right. The swoop isnt about last week, its about illegal immigrants. Intelligence sources tell me that a number of West Africans have been arrested too. Were they out there throwing stones? The govt says that it is dealing will illegal "foreigners". Before the last elections, the same govt announced that it would give Somalis from Somalia IDs and Voting cards. Come the next general election, and the govt will go to Dadaab and Ifo refugee camps to get more voters!
sorry mybe these ppl hav a rite to be in kenya i am born in uganda but my parents were born in kenya and r kenyans SO i have the rite to claim Ugandan citizenship by birth or Kenyan citizenship coz my ancestors r kenyans!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is all stupid exercise. In the early 90's there were very few Somalis in Eastliegh until MOI let them in during the coup. Just because they got ID's through bribing does not make them kenyan citizens.
@mainafra You are talking of 90s? Before the 2007 elections the government officially announced that it would give the Somalia Somalis living in Eastleigh IDs and Voting cards. Come the next general elections and the govt will go to the refugee camps to get more voters.
mainafra, seriously you went to school didnt you? then you must surely know that kenya has more than 42 different tribes and no one tribe can call kenya home as we all migrated here, to the said borders of kenya that were demarcated by the colonialists. so we are kenyan and will be kenyans whether you like it or not, dont be a tribalist as thats what killed us kenyans in the last general elections.
Kenyan monkeys they want rape our people........ all somali they must back somali,,,,,,
we cant stay with monkeys coz they r from animal jungle father monkey mother human..
TheSomalia154 8 months ago
Kweli nyani haoni umbile. Some people are out here admonishing others for use of curse words where as all over youtube their comments are full of dirty language. Talk of having a log in your eye but talking about a speck in your colleague's eye. Please let us show some maturity when commenting on issues. You dont have to use abusive language to drive your point home. It is highly primitive and barbaric to use such kind of language! Imagine talking such a language to your father or mother!
buashraf 2 years ago
@buashraf: Go directly to the offensive comment, vote it down and point out 'the dirt'. That way we all help each other mature into civil beings!
siasabora 2 years ago
@siasabora. It has been my song since I started commenting on Youtube. I abhor all dirty or offensive talk. But the dirty language by some characters overwhelms me. I would spend my whole life commenting or cautioning these characters because dirty language seems to be their culture. I wonder when people will learn to cease from such primitivity. You know well and you have read my comments here admonishing such characters. I bet such people are cowards and they cant say such things in public!
buashraf 2 years ago
@buashraf: Absolutely with you on that on! Point them out. Sometimes the combined onslaught of sober and cool headed readers will drives the point home or scare the unsavoury away!
siasabora 2 years ago
I fully support the crackdown on aliens for the sake of security but it shouldn't be one sided.
njorogeaustralia 2 years ago
why do they insinuate that Kenya is targeting Muslims? It is about illegal immigration and not religion
lubangad 2 years ago
I'd rather we go in the opposite direction. Embrace Somalis of all stripes. Give them ID's ata kama ni wa kutoka Djibouti. I used to rent my properties for almost nothing until Somalis began leaving North Eastern and Somalia now a room earns 10 times more than 1994 even when adjusted for massive after Goldeberg inflation. Na chakula yao sio mbaya kwako.
tyty1794 2 years ago
@tyty: No one has a problem with genuine honest enterprising immigrants! Law and Order of a host nation must at all times be paramount! We can compete businesslike, with anyone. However, pirates' investments have distorted our micro/macro-economics! I call 'em Economic Crimes!
siasabora 2 years ago
@siasabora you are having a pedestrian view about the economy. At a time when governments are injecting econ.stimulus to jumpstart ailing economies, thanks to the recession,you cant just dismiss investors.The govt through its institution like CBK should be able to detect the so"called pirates money" if indeed we have credible and competent institutions-given the performance of the immigration and internal security dept,i doubt there are capable institutions.
mvkuku 2 years ago
@ buashraf
mwendapolee 2 years ago
@daddykliffhanger.... ur missing the point!!! Kenyans are deported everyday from majuu. am a cleaner at Jomo Kenyatta airport, so trust me. illegal migrant have to stay in refugee camps near Somali border....
jdagoo24 2 years ago
This is sad and I'm ashamed of my country for conducting this kind of thoughtless, emotion driven operations just because they can. I realize their had to be a response from the government following the violent demonstrations, which I was strong opposed to, but these mass arrests and harrassment of Somalis is an overeaction. Stop destroying lives of people who are an asset to the country's economy. How will Kenyan feel, if over a million of its citizens living abroad illegally got deported?
daddycliff 2 years ago 2
Racial profiling is wrong, and persons should feel safe in their own homes without fear of arbitrary searches and arrests. It's important for the police to have probable cause, or a search warrant, or an arrest warrant before they can legally force their way into private property. These are universal liberties that Kenya should strive for. Target criminal aliens, and even though the law allows for deportation of illigal immigrants these mass arrests are in inhuman and reckless.
daddycliff 2 years ago
Take this somalis out of the cities,they arenot allowed tobe in the cities in the first place,their UNHCR documents allows them to get their ration of food and other help.Take them all out of nairobi and let them deal with the boranas and the samburus.They know those guys don;t bembelza them like we did.We make a huge mistake for treating them well and like humns only to turn back and call us names using their religion.You got to go.We helped the police coz they stopped us from going to work.!
kushotto 2 years ago
Give the guys credit.They have been able to turn the sprawling eastleigh slums to a modern shopping centre famous in East n central Africa.They are a victim of their own success.They should consider downgrading their investments and relocate to more investor friendly countries.The locals are comfortable with the exploitation by Asian business men.
mvkuku 2 years ago 4
@MvKuku: I do agree with you, as an expert in Investment i can confidently tell you that Kenya will experience unprecedented capital flight coupled with falling property prices, already the investors in dubai are holding back due to the unmitigated/ble political risk. Hope TZ and UG will grab this opportunity...
tritac 2 years ago 2
@tritac: Its blood money we don't need it. We maybe beggars but we a few of us got a conscience!
siasabora 2 years ago
@Siasabora: Not all of it is blood money, and when i made the above statement its only because am talking from a point of experience and my substantial involvement in venture capital, private equity investments... mainly in the middle east, some investors have had to hold back their investments and are now shifting their focus to Rwanda, and Uganda, So my brother u jst cant say we dont want blood and simply accept a beggar status... NO thats is not how to go about it...
tritac 2 years ago
as a somali whose family has a long history in
nairobi(since 1970's) i hear somalis say why is it kenyans don't have a problem when indians,the arabs and whites were running things but us as a fellow africans we are treated different.even if you show your kenyan birth certificate,native kenyans still see us as
an immigrant.
TheFireicing 2 years ago
@mvkuku I agree 100% What a fascinating attitude you have We hope everyone was like that !
lilartist10 7 months ago
@siasabora, Socially secluded, politically marginalized, economically deprived, culturally depersonalized and religiously threatened, the unjustly targeted masses of the Kenyan periphery have become shadowy figures confined in the realm of inexistence for many long decades. and thats what we are witnessing now. i hope u will respond with some intellect.
tritac 2 years ago
@tritac Breath in Out! Now whenever I walk into any small town and Prison conspicuously visible is a Mosque anywhere in Kenya! Earlier I went to school with Zuhuras, Zainabu, Hassanis and Juma! No Problem. 2009 enter Faisal- enter hatred! What happened, Tritac?
siasabora 2 years ago
@Siasabora, Sheikh Abdullah Al-Faisal´s imprisonment is in itself a minor and marginal issue. One can describe it as the evident peak of a huge, mostly hidden, iceberg. What was done against Islam, and above all, against Somali Muslims´ rightful desire to politically, culturally and nationally express themselves has been violated, nevertheless i do agree with u about the mosks but wat became of the ordinary kenyans to side with the police??
tritac 2 years ago
@tritac: I agree that was very very wrong civilians getting involved! Two wrongs don't make a right! It wz mob mentality....it just happened 'spontaneously' as my RV warlords love saying after they beat their fellow Kenyans!
siasabora 2 years ago
let us admit this is a poor example of our immigration services. all this could have been solved if the govt issued a refugee card and vet those who can contribute to our economy vs those who cannot. lakini this has come about because of corruption. all of a sudden one mad sheikh arrives in kenya, and the security services are rounding up everybody. poor governance and immigration management.
nubian12201 2 years ago
Hii ni ushenzi ya Saitoti. Most Somalis are here bcos of chaos in their country and are trying to better themselves. Kama Saititi ameacha our borders wide open, then dont victimize individuals who walk in. It is also our failure as kenyans to elect able leaders. Kama the "walalos" r not commiting crimes currently, LEAVE THEM ALONE! Go to the border and prevent others from coming.
karizz1 2 years ago
Its time black muslims in kenya rise up and take charge of islam in kenya.Enough of over 5centuries of arab control.Lead by kimathis black need to represent kenyan islam not arab or somalis.!
kushotto 2 years ago
Na hiyo jamii moja ndiyo ilileta ghasia Nairobi wiki iliyopita. No let up in hunting for these Al Shabaab terrorists for the safety of our citizens
karuitha 2 years ago
I feel sorry for my fellow somali's this is real bad, the question is who told you to make so much money and flash it like that? why dint you vote for Kibaki... Y ODM? You see all this is coming bak to us... Couldn't help noticing how much the rest of Kenyan pple hate us this is truly a time for reflection and reconsideration...
tritac 2 years ago 2
@tritac: Upuzi: It has nuthin to do with ur voting...mngengolewa 2009! Yu waved that Alshaabab flag in the streets of Nairobi....that's when yu crossed the line! Chezeni ngoma!
siasabora 2 years ago
Tell them siasa poa!Waislamu hawana adabu!You can't say some words infront of kids!Jiheshimu ndio upate heshimiwa pia!
kushotto 2 years ago
fanya kazi kajwang
melionsden 2 years ago
Management by Crisis. Is this when we ralize that there are many illegal foreigners in Kenya? What about the many Ethiopians and Eritreans and Nigerians? Only Somalis and Congolese? Haapaana!
2190g1 2 years ago
what ever agenda kenya govt may have, i feel this is best opportunity for somalia to seek peace and make a compromise, somalis should also boycott the use mirra. iteere has a big mirra farm in lare and this could have being the best way to bite him back.
samatar44 2 years ago 2
I dont see this happening. They're addicted.
nedatronics 2 years ago
Somalis need to to stop complaining, if you know that you are a kenyan why should you get worried when you are stopped simply show your ID. It seem as if you are harbouring these illegals thats why you are shouting showing black teeth.
olmaa 2 years ago
This standard security operation,it is common every where in the world so long as you call yourself a nation.Nations are determined by borders not race or ethinicities.Kenya is neighbor to so many countries with ethinicities extending to the neighboring country but non has abused those international laws like somalis.Kenyans have been so kind to them untill,they started hauling insults and claiming to spread their slave traders religion and culture!!
kushotto 2 years ago
Kwa nini wasitafute malaya ambawo wana leta ukimwi kama mamake kushotto wao wana leta ukimwi sana na kisonono
jomvu1 2 years ago
@jomvu1: Heiii fanya adabu mzee! Kama huna lakusema nyamaza. Unajua Kushotto atakuwa nani kesho? yu'd think yu have enough enemies time yu made friends!
siasabora 2 years ago
Just curious! How about arresting Uncle Moody? He is Ugandan. His brother Aggrey Awori is an mp in Uganda. Miguna Miguna too carries two passports and is working in Kenya illegally! :-)
buashraf 2 years ago 3
@buashraf Moody's brother being Ugandan does not make him ugandan too... get concrete evidence before you speak such things in public. Miguna was born in Nyando, how does that make him unkenyan?
jakothoth 2 years ago
@jakothoth. Which evidence do you have to prove that Uncle Moody is a Kenyan? Is it because he has been a Kenyan MP for ages? Or is it because he was a VP? If that is the case, do you remember Kaunda's predicament in Zambia? True, Miguna was born in Nyando but we also have Qataris who were born in Kenya!
buashraf 2 years ago
Just in case you are not conversant with the Law,Miguna has a double citizenship which is illegal in kenya notwithstanding whether he was born in nyando or anywhere else.you have to renounce your citizenship to acquire another citizenship
mvkuku 2 years ago 2
was uncle moody throwing stones in Nairobi last week?
We have no problems with immigrants if they can come to our country and abide by the laws of the land. the only problem is when let them in and they abuse that hospitality, rioting in the streets flying al shabaab flags, shooting our police officers and turning nairobi to mogadishu.
karuitha 2 years ago
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buashraf 2 years ago
@karuitha. Get things right. The swoop isnt about last week, its about illegal immigrants. Intelligence sources tell me that a number of West Africans have been arrested too. Were they out there throwing stones? The govt says that it is dealing will illegal "foreigners". Before the last elections, the same govt announced that it would give Somalis from Somalia IDs and Voting cards. Come the next general election, and the govt will go to Dadaab and Ifo refugee camps to get more voters!
buashraf 2 years ago
sorry mybe these ppl hav a rite to be in kenya i am born in uganda but my parents were born in kenya and r kenyans SO i have the rite to claim Ugandan citizenship by birth or Kenyan citizenship coz my ancestors r kenyans!!!!!!!!!!!!
mwendapolee 2 years ago
This is all stupid exercise. In the early 90's there were very few Somalis in Eastliegh until MOI let them in during the coup. Just because they got ID's through bribing does not make them kenyan citizens.
mainafra 2 years ago
@mainafra You are talking of 90s? Before the 2007 elections the government officially announced that it would give the Somalia Somalis living in Eastleigh IDs and Voting cards. Come the next general elections and the govt will go to the refugee camps to get more voters.
buashraf 2 years ago
mainafra, seriously you went to school didnt you? then you must surely know that kenya has more than 42 different tribes and no one tribe can call kenya home as we all migrated here, to the said borders of kenya that were demarcated by the colonialists. so we are kenyan and will be kenyans whether you like it or not, dont be a tribalist as thats what killed us kenyans in the last general elections.
bashir1001 2 years ago
kenya smells shit
Aleksi2209 2 years ago
@Aleksi2209: Then Get Out...hello?
siasabora 2 years ago