The bullet in the FBI shootout you mention was a 9 mm 115 grains Silvertip that went through the BG forearm and ribcage and it stopped 1 inch from his heart and it did expand, this one being heavier and in a more powerful caliber like the 357 magnum would have probablly penetrated more IMHO
for as much as these rounds cost i expected better. everywhere i look they the high end of all the hollow points in terms of cost and to just fragment. glad i didn't buy any.
Before I retired from law enforcement this was the load issued. I don't know the speed, but it was definitely a stout load. We had switched from Federal 125 grain in pursuit of greater penetration. Only shooting I witnessed was a close range head shot. Very nasty with brain matter sprayed throughout the suspect's vehicle.
This is a great round, but does Winchester still make it? I'm down to my last box and I've been looking for more for five years! It used to be easy to find.
@flashbulbnut It is still listed on Winchester's website. I am assuming it is still being loaded. Generally, manufacturers will make a run of ammo and then retool their machines to a new load. The changing takes down the line and stops production, so they will make ammo in large batches to reduce downtime. Perhaps they have not done a run of this ammo in a while and it is becoming scarce. I have not seen it for sale in a while either.
I don't want to sound stupid but are the bullets real silver that other silver tip balisticks also I was wondering how close you are shooting for the splatter test
The normal copper jacket is made of some type of aluminum alloy on this round and not silver. I think mythbusters actually tried to make a silver bullet to test and they found it to be a poor metal for bullet making.
@andreleger2001 Ya silver is very hard it would probly be a bit dangerous to the barrel soft medals like tungusten, lead, copper, & even gold are known to be best for ammunition.
@1ohtaf1 tungusten is usually used for its weight and jacketed with copper or something along those lines these are made out of some sort of aluminum alloy.
Beautiful gun, I was thinking of getting that exact model 686, same barrel length and all! You don't wanna fuck with someone with a .357! Haha! Nice video too, keep it up!
Thats exactly what the load is supposed to do...it's not a new age premium bonded bullet...not designed for auto glass, doors, thugs with 4 denim jackets on, etc.
It will hold up well on animals and do its business along the penetration path.
lol well after looking at your page and seeing all those other love comments people gave you there was no need to give you any comments it's ashame your older then me but yet your still inmature
your the homo that started chatting with me first and you keep talking to me so i don't know who your calling a homo you damn homo and not only that there's nothing wrong with being a homo and you should know all about it being with alot of guys over sea's
wow a guy that's 29 years old in the army and he still uses the word "NUH UH" we all can tell here that you are a very mature grown up NOT!!! andreleger2001 save this kid and block his ass before he embarrass himself some more
@andreleger2001 where can I find this ammo?
deathblow101ify 1 month ago
just bought a box here in Argentina
sansfasonico 5 months ago
@shootcentermass
The bullet in the FBI shootout you mention was a 9 mm 115 grains Silvertip that went through the BG forearm and ribcage and it stopped 1 inch from his heart and it did expand, this one being heavier and in a more powerful caliber like the 357 magnum would have probablly penetrated more IMHO
sansfasonico 5 months ago
I have to ask the obvious... Will this kill a werewolf?
wmd44110 6 months ago
I wonder what the attraction is of making the bullet silver?
jmkpns 6 months ago
whats th difference in these and the silver box of silver tips personal defense
manostihl 6 months ago
@manostihl Nothing as far as I know just a package change. This is the older version of packaging.
andreleger2001 6 months ago
for as much as these rounds cost i expected better. everywhere i look they the high end of all the hollow points in terms of cost and to just fragment. glad i didn't buy any.
tastykak3s 7 months ago
Fragmented. Hmmm
intercooler2 8 months ago
Before I retired from law enforcement this was the load issued. I don't know the speed, but it was definitely a stout load. We had switched from Federal 125 grain in pursuit of greater penetration. Only shooting I witnessed was a close range head shot. Very nasty with brain matter sprayed throughout the suspect's vehicle.
benhaven 10 months ago
Cool, nice round if you can find em.
steveastrostar 1 year ago
This is a great round, but does Winchester still make it? I'm down to my last box and I've been looking for more for five years! It used to be easy to find.
flashbulbnut 1 year ago
@flashbulbnut It is still listed on Winchester's website. I am assuming it is still being loaded. Generally, manufacturers will make a run of ammo and then retool their machines to a new load. The changing takes down the line and stops production, so they will make ammo in large batches to reduce downtime. Perhaps they have not done a run of this ammo in a while and it is becoming scarce. I have not seen it for sale in a while either.
andreleger2001 1 year ago
Can this ammo be a good self-defense round?
Mr291229 1 year ago
@Mr291229 Yes this round is quite effective and would do fine for self defense.
andreleger2001 1 year ago
@Mr291229 hell yes, it can kill a werewolf lmao. jk, i know its not real silver.
Ronald3570 1 year ago
I don't want to sound stupid but are the bullets real silver that other silver tip balisticks also I was wondering how close you are shooting for the splatter test
mshipsky 1 year ago
@mshipsky No they are not real silver. It is an aluminum alloy jacket. The splatter tests are shot at about 10 yards.
andreleger2001 1 year ago
@mshipsky lol hey I'm glad someone asked, i was wondering the same thing.
TheCleanCleaner 11 months ago
You should do a glase blue video. I know it leaves nothing to retrieve but it blowse apart water jugs like you wouldn't believe.
smartguy104 1 year ago
@smartguy104 I have some in my test box for next time.
andreleger2001 1 year ago
Does this round work on werewolves?
:P
perspicacity89 2 years ago
The normal copper jacket is made of some type of aluminum alloy on this round and not silver. I think mythbusters actually tried to make a silver bullet to test and they found it to be a poor metal for bullet making.
andreleger2001 2 years ago
Oh really? Cool. I haven't watched Mythbusters in such a long time. I miss that show.
Thanks for the info. Great tests. Keep 'em coming.
perspicacity89 2 years ago
@andreleger2001 Ya silver is very hard it would probly be a bit dangerous to the barrel soft medals like tungusten, lead, copper, & even gold are known to be best for ammunition.
smartguy104 1 year ago
@smartguy104 silver is not very hard, on the other hand tungsten is extreamly hard.
1ohtaf1 1 year ago
@1ohtaf1 tungusten is usually used for its weight and jacketed with copper or something along those lines these are made out of some sort of aluminum alloy.
smartguy104 1 year ago
@smartguy104 I know, tungsten is hard and silver is soft.
1ohtaf1 1 year ago
@perspicacity89 i was about to ask same thing LoL
seven47katana 2 years ago
Beautiful gun, I was thinking of getting that exact model 686, same barrel length and all! You don't wanna fuck with someone with a .357! Haha! Nice video too, keep it up!
44MagnumHitman 2 years ago
Thats exactly what the load is supposed to do...it's not a new age premium bonded bullet...not designed for auto glass, doors, thugs with 4 denim jackets on, etc.
It will hold up well on animals and do its business along the penetration path.
dannysees 2 years ago
damn i wished that this round put out a better expansion so i can use it, it looks nice all silver
duemamay 2 years ago
retard. you huntin' werewolves you dumb hick.
GohModley 2 years ago
only a lil kid like you would
duemamay 2 years ago
sweet comeback. NOT.
GohModley 2 years ago
lol well after looking at your page and seeing all those other love comments people gave you there was no need to give you any comments it's ashame your older then me but yet your still inmature
duemamay 2 years ago
get lost homo. i'm not interested.
GohModley 2 years ago
your the homo that started chatting with me first and you keep talking to me so i don't know who your calling a homo you damn homo and not only that there's nothing wrong with being a homo and you should know all about it being with alot of guys over sea's
duemamay 2 years ago
nuh uh you is.
GohModley 2 years ago
wow a guy that's 29 years old in the army and he still uses the word "NUH UH" we all can tell here that you are a very mature grown up NOT!!! andreleger2001 save this kid and block his ass before he embarrass himself some more
duemamay 2 years ago
yeah you better run pussy.
GohModley 2 years ago
look at whos talking lil bitch in the army they teach you to run that's all you know how to do anywayz
duemamay 2 years ago
tubby, work your way up to one situp and then get back to me about how big a pussy I am for being in the army. FAT FUCKIN' HOMO.
GohModley 2 years ago
Guys - we are all here because we like guns. Chill... There is no need for a comment war calling each other names.
andreleger2001 2 years ago
I must admit I kind of expected more out of this load
bigboss686 2 years ago