I know in my heart that there are a few good people in power who do want to see families fed and will endeavor to make a deal before too many months go by.
I refuse to believe that all people in power are callous to the misfortunes of others. I've seen the power of compassion in the least likely of circumstances. It transforms not only they themselves, but those around them.
Here's somthing youc and o if you miss your tv.....Hi mr. podcast, hwo are you? your all over itunes, theres only like a million of them. i love you mr. podcasts
You are obviously one of the crowd that are completely and totally ignorant of two facts.
1. Most WGA members don't make enough off writing to keep a roof over their head and food on the table.
2. The strike is largely being done because the current contract, was it to stay the same while the circumstances change around it, would basically mean that in the future the writers would get left in the dust while thr producers get all the profits.
STOP with the 'you agreed to the conditions of the job when you took it, if you don't like it leave' argument. Conditions have changed (streaming media) since writers 'agreed' to the conditions and the AMPTP is not willing to increase writers' pay to reflect those changes, or even ACKNOWLEGE the changes. They are, however, perfectly happy reaping the benefits and they're doing everything they can to avoid sharing fairly.
I'm sure that producers play an important role in getting the deals made, but if anything the writers should be on the top of the food chain. If it ain't on the page, it ain't on the stage.
Lots of talent and creativity being displayed....the artist always get the pennies while the producers get the serious dollars. Save your good material for good compensation. Hold on.
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Funny.
But, do you realize how appreciative I would be to have a writing job? I work in a dish pit all day everyday, trying to pay for my own education (which only allows me to take one class per semester) and I have no help from anyone.... You have one of my dream jobs and you're complaining... I don't understand.
The fact that it's a job many want does not mean that it's right or logical or sane to then lay down when your boss suddenly decides to cut your pay in times of record revenue. The desirable nature of the job does not mean we should take getting screwed. I cannot see how you could believe or argue that we should.
In fact, it is that very specialized nature of the skill and the difficultly of breaking in (much like a baseball player) that should afford us a bit more control over our earnings.
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It's a job that I want, I also want the PAY, not just the title.
I don't agree with the strike, I'm sorry, I think it's completely selfish and a slap in the face to other hard working folks. You get paid plenty and the producers and company owners can do whatever they want with their copyrighted material. You work for them and you'll work for what they pay, that's how a job works unless you're running your own damned business.
No, the way the job works is that we get residual payments for reuse of our product -- payments fought for and agreed to by the companies in order to allow writers to get by during long and common times of unemployment. They are now trying to take those payments away for the future when TV comes over the internet.
If you really feel that companies should be able to do "whatever they want," with regards to your pay, please inform your employer on Monday. I'm sure they'll be thrilled to hear it.
This is a common argument against the WGA strike, and it misses the entire point of the strike. While they may make a decent living now, as more content gets put up on the internet where they get paid nothing for (and companies still makes millions off ads), do you think writing will still be a viable job?
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What about the filmers of the shows? What about the designers? What about the make up artists? All of their work is on there as well, they're not on strike and I'm sure they get payed the exact same way you guys do.
As for Steedoggydogg, my company knows they can do what they want with my money, atleast within the minimum wage. If they cut my pay, I would simply leave and find another job though. If you guys have enough skill to create videos like this, why don't you create your own shows?
Oh, I see. So you're saying that if you didn't feel you were being compensated fairly, you would leave. So a writer leaves NBC to go to..FOX? CBS? The point no matter where you go in Hollywood, they're trying to screw over the writers in regards to compensation on the internet. What's the difference between watching a television show with ads to watching a show on the internet with ads? Why should this change how the writers are compensated?
Hey bojalwasix, (by the way, he considers himself a musician, an artist...against the writers strike) the "filmers" also go by the name "showrunners"...they happen to be STRIKING in solidarity with the writers (as are actors). Just to keep you informed, you know, in case you want to punch up your argument a bit.
Because of the writers, those designers, make up artist or editors got that job. Remember, the writers create the blue print of every visual and audio entertainment. without them first, second the director, third the actors you would be seeing you favorite movie. Lets support them from these greedy cooperations.
(I think it's completely selfish and a slap in the face to other hard working folks)
Actually, it would be a slap in the face to other "hard working folks" not to strike...you know, with the UNIONS and all.
(What about the designers? What about the make up artists? All of their work is on there as well, they're not on strike and I'm sure they get payed the exact same way you guys do)
I consider myself a musician and I will never let my music be owned and tossed around by anyone other than myself. It's my music and it always will be, I'm not out looking for money. Same with my writing, it's for me and whoever I want it to be for, not for who someone else wants it to be for. You give your writings to a company and they can do what they want with it and pay you how they want with it.
Aren't you a musician, bojalwasix? How would you feel if you were paid a moderate one-time fee for all your songs and then people could use them for whatever they wanted, in perpetuity, without ever compensating you again? Or they could have someone else sing your song and get famous from it? It's rather inexplicable that you're taking this anti-strike stance, as you're supposedly a creative artist as well.
Or, I'd like to know what his favorite musicians or writers would feel if they heard his stance on greedy creators and their fight for their IP rights.
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See, this is the problem, you guys have the wrong mindset. I write music for MYSELF and if people happen to like it, so be it. I'm not going to maximize my profits from it... I honestly don't care how much I make. I know plenty of musicians PERSONALLY that feel the same way.
Ignore the profit angle for a moment, bojalwasix - how would you feel if they could change your music anyway they choose? You've posted songs here on YouTube... would you like it if someone pulled your music and used it as a soundtrack for child pornography? It's an extreme example, but it illustrates the fact that this is an issue of integrity of creative content, not just money. You're the one with the wrong mindset - you see this as a financial issue alone.
You're the one who used the word, "fee" in your first question.
The fact is I would never write music for a company, I would never sign onto a label. I'm completely self-sufficient with it. It's slow, it's not a job, it's just my music. These writers write for a show they don't own rights to, they give their writing to the people who have rights and that material becomes another one of their rights. There are many other options to this besides striking.
You realize they haven't had a strike in thirty years. Their contracts just ended last October. You think that contract has any relevance to how entertainment is produced and sold today? The internet wasn't even around. Would it be ok with you if _all_ business set back the minimum wage bracket thirty years and your boss gets to pocket the difference?
everyone here seems to be trying to help you understand the validity and rationale behind the strike. so i think i'll deviate and inform you that you're a terrible performer and just because you gave up on your dreams doesn't mean everyone else should.
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Fuck the writers. I just want to be entertained. Give me a break. I hate unions, I hate strikes and I hate that I can't be entertained after a hard day's work. There are no winners. The producers are losers. The writers are losers. And the general public is the biggest loser. Another sad day in America.
So everyone else can get fucked as long as you get your scripted television?
I love scripted TV, but I support the writers in their decision despite missing out on a creature comfort for a few months. Because, you know, I'm not a totally selfish world-hating crybaby pretending that the fact I miss my favourite shows is a bloody tragedy.
Ouch.
NewMusicalFoundation 3 months ago
Brilliant.
Passionate: frigging brillliant.
Bambambicbic 2 years ago
SkateFuckit,
Well, the strike is over now. It feels way better again.
Hope you're doing better now too.
protagonia 3 years ago
How does it make you guys feel to know they're planning on going on without you guys in 2008?
SkateFluckit 4 years ago
It feels bad.
I know in my heart that there are a few good people in power who do want to see families fed and will endeavor to make a deal before too many months go by.
I refuse to believe that all people in power are callous to the misfortunes of others. I've seen the power of compassion in the least likely of circumstances. It transforms not only they themselves, but those around them.
Happy Holidays, just the same.
protagonia 4 years ago 2
Rick Overton is a really funny comedian.
HollywoodFameAwards 4 years ago
Here's somthing youc and o if you miss your tv.....Hi mr. podcast, hwo are you? your all over itunes, theres only like a million of them. i love you mr. podcasts
Emilyfromohio 4 years ago
bojalwasix:
You are obviously one of the crowd that are completely and totally ignorant of two facts.
1. Most WGA members don't make enough off writing to keep a roof over their head and food on the table.
2. The strike is largely being done because the current contract, was it to stay the same while the circumstances change around it, would basically mean that in the future the writers would get left in the dust while thr producers get all the profits.
HirosaysYATTA 4 years ago 2
bojalwasix:
STOP with the 'you agreed to the conditions of the job when you took it, if you don't like it leave' argument. Conditions have changed (streaming media) since writers 'agreed' to the conditions and the AMPTP is not willing to increase writers' pay to reflect those changes, or even ACKNOWLEGE the changes. They are, however, perfectly happy reaping the benefits and they're doing everything they can to avoid sharing fairly.
lizjewelry 4 years ago 11
Great stuff.
MRFBluth 4 years ago 2
typical producer = dreams of gold, pocket full of lint. hang on gotta go wax my bentley.
plsureking 4 years ago
I'm sure that producers play an important role in getting the deals made, but if anything the writers should be on the top of the food chain. If it ain't on the page, it ain't on the stage.
mekramer72 4 years ago
Lots of talent and creativity being displayed....the artist always get the pennies while the producers get the serious dollars. Save your good material for good compensation. Hold on.
bobsalas 4 years ago
Wow, awesome song well sung. :)
anniekate76 4 years ago
excellent..
hope those studio execs.. sort it out soon
kool4eva 4 years ago
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Funny.
But, do you realize how appreciative I would be to have a writing job? I work in a dish pit all day everyday, trying to pay for my own education (which only allows me to take one class per semester) and I have no help from anyone.... You have one of my dream jobs and you're complaining... I don't understand.
bojalwasix 4 years ago
The fact that it's a job many want does not mean that it's right or logical or sane to then lay down when your boss suddenly decides to cut your pay in times of record revenue. The desirable nature of the job does not mean we should take getting screwed. I cannot see how you could believe or argue that we should.
In fact, it is that very specialized nature of the skill and the difficultly of breaking in (much like a baseball player) that should afford us a bit more control over our earnings.
steedoggydogg 4 years ago 4
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It's a job that I want, I also want the PAY, not just the title.
I don't agree with the strike, I'm sorry, I think it's completely selfish and a slap in the face to other hard working folks. You get paid plenty and the producers and company owners can do whatever they want with their copyrighted material. You work for them and you'll work for what they pay, that's how a job works unless you're running your own damned business.
bojalwasix 4 years ago
No, the way the job works is that we get residual payments for reuse of our product -- payments fought for and agreed to by the companies in order to allow writers to get by during long and common times of unemployment. They are now trying to take those payments away for the future when TV comes over the internet.
If you really feel that companies should be able to do "whatever they want," with regards to your pay, please inform your employer on Monday. I'm sure they'll be thrilled to hear it.
steedoggydogg 4 years ago 6
This is a common argument against the WGA strike, and it misses the entire point of the strike. While they may make a decent living now, as more content gets put up on the internet where they get paid nothing for (and companies still makes millions off ads), do you think writing will still be a viable job?
renixe 4 years ago 4
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What about the filmers of the shows? What about the designers? What about the make up artists? All of their work is on there as well, they're not on strike and I'm sure they get payed the exact same way you guys do.
As for Steedoggydogg, my company knows they can do what they want with my money, atleast within the minimum wage. If they cut my pay, I would simply leave and find another job though. If you guys have enough skill to create videos like this, why don't you create your own shows?
bojalwasix 4 years ago
Oh, I see. So you're saying that if you didn't feel you were being compensated fairly, you would leave. So a writer leaves NBC to go to..FOX? CBS? The point no matter where you go in Hollywood, they're trying to screw over the writers in regards to compensation on the internet. What's the difference between watching a television show with ads to watching a show on the internet with ads? Why should this change how the writers are compensated?
renixe 4 years ago 7
Hey bojalwasix, (by the way, he considers himself a musician, an artist...against the writers strike) the "filmers" also go by the name "showrunners"...they happen to be STRIKING in solidarity with the writers (as are actors). Just to keep you informed, you know, in case you want to punch up your argument a bit.
lizjewelry 4 years ago 3
"(by the way, he considers himself a musician, an artist...against the writers strike)"
I know, exactly. Doesn't it just boggle your mind.
OneRottenTomato 4 years ago 2
This strike is just going to annoy them until they pay you more money, it's not because they want to.
bojalwasix 4 years ago
Because of the writers, those designers, make up artist or editors got that job. Remember, the writers create the blue print of every visual and audio entertainment. without them first, second the director, third the actors you would be seeing you favorite movie. Lets support them from these greedy cooperations.
mejallow 4 years ago 2
bojalwasix,
(I think it's completely selfish and a slap in the face to other hard working folks)
Actually, it would be a slap in the face to other "hard working folks" not to strike...you know, with the UNIONS and all.
(What about the designers? What about the make up artists? All of their work is on there as well, they're not on strike and I'm sure they get payed the exact same way you guys do)
They don't.
lizjewelry 4 years ago
I consider myself a musician and I will never let my music be owned and tossed around by anyone other than myself. It's my music and it always will be, I'm not out looking for money. Same with my writing, it's for me and whoever I want it to be for, not for who someone else wants it to be for. You give your writings to a company and they can do what they want with it and pay you how they want with it.
bojalwasix 4 years ago
bojalwasix,
Which is it?
On being a musician/writer "(I'm not out
looking for money.)"
On being a writer "(It's a job that I want, I also want the PAY, not just the title)"
Bottom line the strike isn't about the money it's about the message. Read up on the United Hollywood website.
lizjewelry 4 years ago
I think I just heard Rosa Parks spining in her grave.
OneRottenTomato 4 years ago 2
Aren't you a musician, bojalwasix? How would you feel if you were paid a moderate one-time fee for all your songs and then people could use them for whatever they wanted, in perpetuity, without ever compensating you again? Or they could have someone else sing your song and get famous from it? It's rather inexplicable that you're taking this anti-strike stance, as you're supposedly a creative artist as well.
Shyaporn 4 years ago 3
Or, I'd like to know what his favorite musicians or writers would feel if they heard his stance on greedy creators and their fight for their IP rights.
OneRottenTomato 4 years ago 3
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See, this is the problem, you guys have the wrong mindset. I write music for MYSELF and if people happen to like it, so be it. I'm not going to maximize my profits from it... I honestly don't care how much I make. I know plenty of musicians PERSONALLY that feel the same way.
bojalwasix 4 years ago
Ignore the profit angle for a moment, bojalwasix - how would you feel if they could change your music anyway they choose? You've posted songs here on YouTube... would you like it if someone pulled your music and used it as a soundtrack for child pornography? It's an extreme example, but it illustrates the fact that this is an issue of integrity of creative content, not just money. You're the one with the wrong mindset - you see this as a financial issue alone.
Shyaporn 4 years ago 3
You're the one who used the word, "fee" in your first question.
The fact is I would never write music for a company, I would never sign onto a label. I'm completely self-sufficient with it. It's slow, it's not a job, it's just my music. These writers write for a show they don't own rights to, they give their writing to the people who have rights and that material becomes another one of their rights. There are many other options to this besides striking.
bojalwasix 4 years ago
You realize they haven't had a strike in thirty years. Their contracts just ended last October. You think that contract has any relevance to how entertainment is produced and sold today? The internet wasn't even around. Would it be ok with you if _all_ business set back the minimum wage bracket thirty years and your boss gets to pocket the difference?
OneRottenTomato 4 years ago 5
everyone here seems to be trying to help you understand the validity and rationale behind the strike. so i think i'll deviate and inform you that you're a terrible performer and just because you gave up on your dreams doesn't mean everyone else should.
ibearbadnews 4 years ago
Gave up on my dreams? haha
I understand that they're trying to make more money through this strike... that's all it's about, money...
If the dream I gave up was about making more money, I'm glad I gave it up unknowingly.
SkateFluckit 4 years ago
They're not talking about making 'more' money... They're only talking about making money at all. From the internet. The one you are on now.
Kirbysfan0 4 years ago 2
ahahaha
"New Guinea or Texas or one of those places."
osse32 4 years ago
Superb! I feel the passion!
alexandraleggat 4 years ago 2
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Fuck the writers. I just want to be entertained. Give me a break. I hate unions, I hate strikes and I hate that I can't be entertained after a hard day's work. There are no winners. The producers are losers. The writers are losers. And the general public is the biggest loser. Another sad day in America.
bignasty96 4 years ago
So everyone else can get fucked as long as you get your scripted television?
I love scripted TV, but I support the writers in their decision despite missing out on a creature comfort for a few months. Because, you know, I'm not a totally selfish world-hating crybaby pretending that the fact I miss my favourite shows is a bloody tragedy.
HirosaysYATTA 4 years ago 2
niiice
toreadoroflove 4 years ago 3
thats why we need writers...great entertainment.
I doubt a studio exec could sing the blues like that! Let alone write it.
beautifulGRBG 4 years ago 5
You said it. :D
MadScout 4 years ago