people always fighting and arguing about war and wow, if you dont like war go play wow and if u dont like wow go play war.. no one fucking cares who stole whose idea srsly. grow up ppl
The game has some cool things in it, but i CANNOT STAND the repetitive button mashing combat, its always the same thing 1, 2, 3... 1,2,3 and so on and so on it never changes. There needs to be conditional abilities to break up the monotony of the action bar sequence.
It's difficult to pull the combat action bar out of an MMO, all MMO RPGs work around very restrictive game rules which are all based on an adaptation of the rule system which was developed from a variety of pen and paper RPG games but set to real time calculations. For example WAR was based on Mordheim (Or 1st Edition), as well as Mythic's previous games for it's rules. WoW was based on the D20 rules but heavy modified and uses two global systems based on a value of 100.00/character level.
Eliments of the turn based rules being played out in real time in games like WoW and WAR can be evident in verious game errors which pop up which don't make any sense to anyone who has never played turn based games. For example, in WoW if you try and capture a quest objective in use by another player it tells you it is "tapped" which was turned based lingo for "has been used or in use". Mostly used in card games like Magic.
I agree on zergs.. they are a total ripoff to tyranids.. otherways. no orks and etc etc isn't so much of a ripoff because they are creatures of fantasy.. its not like warhammer created dwarfs and orks -.-
I don't know how you could say that it is a WoW ripoff, there were many many MMOs out before WoW and it takes a ton of their ideas. WaR is VERY RvR(pvp) centralised, you can get through the game on pve content but the fun comes from the pvp side of things which is very well integrated into the game. WoW cannot compete for pvp, War has a progressive battlefield which ends up with you storming the enemies capital and attempting to kill their king.
In this game, PvP (or as they call it, RvR) is crap. its just one big laggy pack of people, pushing all buttons wildly, no timing, no nothing. It looks very attractive on videos and so on. It was a pain in the ass to realize how much this game sucked goatballs.
bottomline: It looks fun, but its NOT.
There are no cool abilities to the melee classes such as: charge, intercept, pummel or stuns. they basicly all have ALOT of different strikes that all cost actionpoints.
Choppas, slayers, white lions and marauders have charge (50% speed increase for 5s). All tanks get a pummel, most mdps and rdps get a stun. It really sounds like you didnt play enough to even get the slightest hint of what the game is trying to achieve. Dont like where the zerg is? go somewhere else and try to discretely take some keeps or do some skirmishing. If it was laggy for you then your pc may not have been good enough. Though for me fort takes are laggy as hell.
wow, reading your post, i feel so sad to think that i once cared about that stuff in a game.. go use your time doing something else please. a brain is a sad thing to waste.
Yeah, but there are also 30-50 year old frp universes pretty much the same as WH, so only think I dont like on WH is the audience of fan boys which believe WH was the first to come up with such universe which is nonsense if you ever read anything else in your life.
While yes pretty much every Fantasy world has drawn from Tolkien. There is a very clear line where Warcraft drew from Warhammer. It is also well known that Warcraft was suppsoed to be a Warhammer game till GW said no.
There are also clear lines where Warhammer drew from Warcraft like pretty much the same rts game design, not to mention WH-online which is complete rip-off concerning game mechanics. Only thing from WH that inspired Blizzard is it's universe, nothing else. Since WH universe is a copy of it's predecessors, it hardly can be named WH universe. So I don't give a shit who started first ( 1918 ). I only care about who is doing it best.
As for WAR ripping off of WoW as far as mmo mechanics go. Sorry to tell you this but WoW did not invent the MMO. In fact there is nothing original game mechanic wise in WoW. Sorry it has all been done before.
As for RTS Blizzard made the standards with Starcraft. Since then nearly every game-dev company follow the same rts game concept. Fact is - this concept is originaly developed in warcraft "orcs and humans" ( 1994), starcraft just updated it. When I look at WH-DOW rts i see nearly the same rts concept.
Wtf are you talking about? Dune2?!?! I don't see any similarity between starcraft and dune2.
Yes WAR ripped off WoW. Isn't it strange? Blizzard makes warcraft 3 and then THQ makes same shit 3 years later WH-DOW trying to make same success ( but in vane ). Then Blizzard makes MMO WoW and profit billions of dollars, and then comes another company under GW ( as usual ) and makes the same shit 3 years later again trying to make the same success. They all envy them, it's so obvious.
Wikipedia? Is that where you find all those stupid informations? Wikipedia is the biggest disinformer available on the internet, have you even played dune2 or warcraft, or your opinion is based on wiki texts?
Yes I have played both and anyone who has half a brain can see that Dune 2 made the RTS genre what it is today. But I can see you are just a troll good job troll, good job.
Wtf is with you WH fanboys? Still talking about "credits" you misunderstood completely? Zerg and Tyranids?! oO
We talk about WoW here. Get your inferiority complex somewhere else.. WH Fanboys are obsessed with Blizzard while 99% of WoW/SC players don't even care about WH.
And Tyranids my friend are not original, they are pure copy of Xenomorph race created 10 years earlier. Space Marines neither, not even the Eldar. All of that was created way before WH even came out.
Since when dose Warhammer 40 000 have anything to do with Warhammer Fantasy other then the fact the Chaos gods exsist in both games (And in both they are slightly different anyway). And WoW isn't a Copy of WH40K moron, I think your looking for Starcraft. And even Starcraft isn't the same. People need to stop looking at models and simmular looking units and focus on the lore, which is completely different. For one, WoW is hyperfantasy, WAR is Grim fantasy.
1 of the major differences between the two, Dragons in WoW are wardens who watch over the lesser races and are formed from 5 trees of creation and gardians of that strain of creation and the world. Time, Earth, Magic, Love, and Nature. In WAR dragons live on the mountains near the boarders of the north and are untaimed animals.
just a small thing id like to add here.... Blizzard originally wanted to make the Warhammer 40k gam (LOOOOONG time ago) but got flat out rejected. and guess what game they made afterwards? Starcraft.
Im not trying to say that one is superior to the other i am a huge fan of both.
You do know that wow players and WAR players are exactly the same kind of humans?? It's not like ur born to play wow or WAR, "WH Fanboys are obsessed with Blizzard while 99% of WoW / SC players dont even care about WH" right... bullshit, check the other vids, "THIS SUXX WOW OWNS" most of the comments says. So go play ur wow with ur "born to play wow" friends and never come back to WAR vids if it sux so much.
And yeah,everybody knows(at least the ones who think about it pass the thought "WOW ROCKS AND EVERYBODY STEAL FROM IT") that WoW had a lot of things inspired by WAR and even LOTR
I mean Arthas (Anakin), a paladin (jedi) being trained by Uther the lightbringer (Obi-Wan), then betraying his trainer to become a death knight (Darth Vader)
hey yeah i see the connection, however thats a typical fantasy storyline, the one you pointed out. I bet you can look at stories from ancient times and see similarities, Greek myths especially, they mostly base around a 'hero' who undertakes a journey or something similar. Its the fundamental blueprint for any good story :D
Dose "when people run out of ideas they come up with non-original ones" mean anything to anybody? I know the hardcore critical can go on and on about how this rips off that rips off yada yada, you know that really bores people. Stupid weird world we live in I can tell you. If something is fun most people are none the wiser really. Even if critics, hardcore fans and creative directors cringe in horror.
Warhammer fantasy was the original name for Warhammer. Which was used for the game back in 1st and 2nd Edition of the game. The name was since dropped, the game name simply reduced to Warhammer. In most circles it's still called Warhammer Fantasy even though the name was dropped nearly 15 years ago.
umm.... where in my postdid i mention Fantasy? aka Warhammer. ?
i just..... cant understand why you brought it up when i was talking about blizzard ripping off 40K game concept while making Starcraft (wich is an awesome game btw)
But wait you also say and I quote "I don't give a shit who started first I only care about who is doing it best" Well then your entire inaccurate rant about Warcraft being first is totally invalid.
Blizzard is a good company but they are not an original company. They are great at taking games and making them easy to play so everyone can enjoy. The only original game they have ever came up with is Diablo.
wow, warcraft was based of warhammer orginally, im talking warcraft 1. and as an mmo, warcraft ripped off everquest. You dont see people posting on wow videos, hey thats a total rip off of everquest!
Warhammer was around before Warcraft. In fact kiddo, Warcraft is very likely inspired by Warhammer.
What you have to consider is that they are both independent studios who put a LOT of hard work into what they do. Warhammer, while I have not played it; seems to have a niche in an otherwise flooded market. (PvP on a LARGE scale, an intricate class system, RvR to name but a few)
WoW on the other hand is one big grind, with no real "wow" factor. It's only good for a couple lols or two.
I have been at Warhammer for one week! Level 10 Zea....it is a fun class....shame I don't have more time to play. I tried to play WoW for 2 months....really went into it with an open mind. It just ended up being a Grind Fest. Warhammer came out and offered up a great style of play, as well a great style of art. Great graphics, and over all RVR is great! I will continue to play this game! WoW Will be left in the dust....and don't even remind me of Conan...LOL XD
i have 25ish days and i have full s4... and ive been playing wow since before tbc, i bet by now most warhammer players have more played time on there than i do...
i play WAR bought the CE already lvl 40 and yes the movement of the characters does need a little more work, they look very mechanical atleast some of them, especially characters with robes on the order side. also elfs.
Generally characters are not that well animated which will take away from the gameplay since the game is RvR oriented. Very sad though.
I was hoping this game will drive a stake through WoW's heart especially because Warhammer is a much better concept than Warcraft, but after playing it I seriously doubt it. Developers failed at character animation which is essential for gameplay experience.
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ummm? he isn't a wow fanboy, he even said that he this game to knock a little power out of Wow's lap. I agree with him, the animations look sloppy and don't keep my interested. Also, the gameplay doesn't look fast pase at all, i could never get into this over WoW. WoW got where it was because of how amazing it is, blizzard is a force to be reckoned with, you can't deny that.
lol ya shitty didn't even look at what i typed afterwards, makes me look like an idiot i'll admit. The basic points are still there lol :P you just have to look a little deeper.
Also, I don't play wow all that much anymore, got tired of online fees, but i still have my respect for blizzard. Everything in this game looks too bland, can't find anything engaging. The animations looks too boring and the pvp just doesn't look very exciting overall. I'm just guessing that the pve isn't any better.
I tell u that... WOW isnt even RPG anymore, skills update themselves, like WTF ? where is the ability to custom your player how u want ? only thing on WOW is perk tree or how would u call it, where u choose your attack actions. But skills make your character uniqe and wow doesnt have it...and now not even graphics, playstyle, content and GUI is unique so what would WOW contain for me, so I would keep paying it ? 3yo players base ? screwed PVP ? no thx I'll stick to old Funcom game
I could care less about Animations (They look fine to me anyway) I'd rather the developers spend their time on mechanics and features rather than Eye-Candy and 10,000 different goofy armor sets.
Might buy the game, however I'd rather try it out at someone elses' first. Looked at some of the newer videos and the animations were still shitty and it still looked "wooden" as juzelle said. The graphics look amazing though, if you look at higher quality movies.
i think quite of the people saying that WAR has crap animations or bad graphics are baseing this entirely from videos like this, which is a bit odd, considering this footage was from over a year ago, and captured with a video camcorder ;/ there is a huge difference between this early beta vid and what the game looks like now.
Warhammer seems to be suffering from the same issues that .. well pretty much every WoW competitor has:
It's animations SUCK. Like 'Vanguard' bad. They're wooden and lack almost any character. It would've looked amazing like 5 years ago.
I love the concept of real, solid world PVP, and the RVR combat in the beta is great. WoW had alot of faults, but everything they did came out polished(I.e: the tiny details).
That's what WAR lacks: It looks like absolute shit, it's an embaressment to GW :/
what the fuck are you smokin cracker this game has awsome detail. does your comp suck ass or are you just basing it off this video..look when this was added
Hab ne frage an jemanden der deutsch kann^^ sollte aber auch WAR getestet haben oder immerhin fast alles darüber wissen, bitte per nachricht melden were uh nett, danke:)
Ok so im gonna get this game 100% i was just curious if someone could help me with something the Zealot class what are they all about are they kinda like a warlock class What specs can u get and what kinda dmg do they do?
sorceres is more like warlock even got Dots...... it hase +- same skills as lock from wow SO if ya whant lock go Sorceres they own ALOT DMG and can spec dots or hard blast dmg ..
The chaos magus got kinda Warlocky spells to and more in the corrupting kinda way, And many kind of fire and stuff, so if anyone likes Warlock they better try magus.
in conclusion there are a bunch of warlock-ish classes just like there are a bunch of warrior classes hell most classes are mixes of different archetypes how else do you think they were able to create 20....
wow is better if you're a carebear faggot nigger that loves to grind daily quests and endless raids all day while growing a pimple farm on your face, go the fuck outside wowfag
AMEN!!!! HE SPEAKS THE TRUTH MY CHILDREN!!! DO NOT BE TEMPTED BY THE CARTOONY WOW AND ITS CARE BEAR WAYS!!!!! TRY THE NEW!!! wow sucks..... that is all
I've seen someone get knocked back thrice in a video the other day during an RVR conflict so I would assume there are knockbacks available to certain classes. I may be wrong though.
I'm playing this game for sure, I have the closed beta on torrent atm, and I'm just hoping it's like on WoW, bad side is more mature than the good :P Horde>Alliance!
Megazerox,I hope it's more even,Because i play alliance and it's not Fun trying to get the daily done when you have to do 30+Matches to win one(unless it's alterac Valley)I Also hope the classes are more balanced(Balanced such as not every 8/10 people will pick the hunter class)
So far, I've played it, The game is actually well balanced from what I've played so far, I'm only rank 3 (yes it goes by ranks, not levels) Chaos Marauder is a VERY interesting class, I must say. extremely fun too. I reccomend it for any newcomers to try a new, made-up clsss. It's very fun. I'm looking forward to try more once I'm higher levels on this marauder, I might try me a zealot, from this video they look pretty hxc. :P
"i really hope this game is as good as it looks, i hate that the only "good" mmo out there right now is an endless grind of boring honor afk in caves and mindless zombie dailys and 25man zzz raids. BORING." /agree
WoW is just boring to me period.. pvp? i just do it so i can get gear.. and its boring.. in warhammer its fun ive played it in the beta, and raiding in WoW is fun yeah but same old raids each week kinda get lame
well i do agree with you, but in this game they have things called Public Quests. Where you can hop in and take part in the event with 15+ people without grouping up with them. This presents a very original and different way to gaining experience and items. People say you don't even feel the grind.
i really hope this game is as good as it looks, i hate that the only "good" mmo out there right now is an endless grind of boring honor afk in caves and mindless zombie dailys and 25man zzz raids. BORING.
To anyone who is thinking about getting into the game, stop by my guild website and drop an application in! Its VERY simple quick and it will help put you ahead of the rest when WAR is released!
Features a vent server to meet members before War Release and other new enhancements coming shortly.
Actually, Warcraft was based off of Warhammer lore. So..... the Undead are pretty much the Chaos equivalent in Warcraft. Although, Chaos humans are not skeletal, but rather corrupted humans and such. (though those abominations you see in WoW will look very similar to the Chaos God Nurgle and his followers, because that is who they are based off of).
To anyone who is thinking about getting into the game, stop by my guild website and drop an application in! Its VERY simple quick and it will help put you ahead of the rest when WAR is released! Features a vent server to meet members before War Release and other new enhancements coming shortly. We are a destruction guild (non-RP) deadliestsin.guildlaunch. com (space between . and com)
this was in beta, also the polished the graphics, so I read and heard, btw WAR IS COMING, they need to promote this, This is EA for fuck sakes, every other good video gaming companies, don't promote as much as I like, Gaming is to huge for something like this to hidden under a rock, you have to dig to find these kinds of things, this games going to be great, hope the WoW guys get off there asses and buy a copy, theres a good and bad thing, the community will be all fucked up,wow has a bad one.
Like ifoughtthelaw33 said, its going to work and give you renown and level xp.
So you could level up by pvping the whole time you play the game.
The game focuses on fun at all levels, so if you wanna pve it may give you more xp, but its not as fun as pvp while at the same time time they are both fun. Don't worry about leveling up, its going to be fairly easy, but also FUN!
I'm starting to get worried, I've yet to see a video of PvP where people are moving WHILE attacking. Rather than moving in between attacks. It's going to destroy this game if you can't move while executing attacks. Because 2v1 = you're screwed.
Hmm I disagree, I've seen a Marauder vid where the guy is pretty much crushes everything in his path, while moving. Also, anything instant cast should be the same way as WoW, I guess.
Fritemare dont be worried my friend, unless they do some ungodly huge nerf to caster players you'll be able to move while charging up an attack. there are certain attacks where you must stand still while casting but alot of um you can run backwards while charging an attack and blasting, only problem is that you cant turn your back on someone while casting (which is why alot of noobs dont run cause they'd rather stand like turrets and just pivot)
slycoo77, not to make you mad my friend but did you know the original warcraft was originally going to be the original warhammer but warhammer's backed out at the last second, through some slight name changes they came up with warcraft I. So which came out first on PC? well both technically.
Um, Where on this sweet planet did you get those facts? Just makin stuff up, Kids these days I swear.
Warhammer is a Table Top game (40k and fantasy) Which have been out since the late 80s (prior to computers). Blizzard and Games Workshop are two disticntly different companies.
Yes of coarse the tabletop was before warcraft, dante if u read my post, it was over the subject of WC1's developement, and i agree with u on who came first, no need to argue or fling mud :/
Why should I get this instead of AoC? I've heard something about RvR, but in AoC you can fight Guild vs. Guild, in sieges! Any other arguments to get this?
Ps. I was a Warhammer Fantasy-player (Empire, Vampire Counts, Dark Elves)
well unlike aoc the whole game is crafted around pvp. but the unique parts of WAR are the tome of knowledge, like xbox live achievements but with lore and game rewards, and public quests, like open world raids with scripted events and bosses. if you truely want to know more go to warhammer's site
people always fighting and arguing about war and wow, if you dont like war go play wow and if u dont like wow go play war.. no one fucking cares who stole whose idea srsly. grow up ppl
FJqattan 1 year ago
i mean how can some1 say that WAR is a WoW ripoff?
warhammers been going for what? 25 years?
and blizz needed games workshops "permission" to many many things in wow..
so yeah its a wow ripoff..................................
and these two games are very, very different in overall so why does ppl always need to compare them? don't get it
Analwhiskey 2 years ago
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CmdrFoxDavion 2 years ago
The game has some cool things in it, but i CANNOT STAND the repetitive button mashing combat, its always the same thing 1, 2, 3... 1,2,3 and so on and so on it never changes. There needs to be conditional abilities to break up the monotony of the action bar sequence.
ashtray45 2 years ago
that's what pretty much all mmos are. Well there are moral abilties in this.
blowme23 2 years ago
It's difficult to pull the combat action bar out of an MMO, all MMO RPGs work around very restrictive game rules which are all based on an adaptation of the rule system which was developed from a variety of pen and paper RPG games but set to real time calculations. For example WAR was based on Mordheim (Or 1st Edition), as well as Mythic's previous games for it's rules. WoW was based on the D20 rules but heavy modified and uses two global systems based on a value of 100.00/character level.
CmdrFoxDavion 2 years ago
Eliments of the turn based rules being played out in real time in games like WoW and WAR can be evident in verious game errors which pop up which don't make any sense to anyone who has never played turn based games. For example, in WoW if you try and capture a quest objective in use by another player it tells you it is "tapped" which was turned based lingo for "has been used or in use". Mostly used in card games like Magic.
CmdrFoxDavion 2 years ago
omg lol that 2nd song is from battlefield 1942.... i used to play that game all the time...it was so fun
Brett1082 2 years ago
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i like it.. even though it is the biggest wow rip off ever
CS3SasukeCS3 2 years ago
lol you know that Blizzard stole their whole Warcraft and Starcraft franchise from Warhammer and 40K
ChefGroovy2 2 years ago 9
I agree on zergs.. they are a total ripoff to tyranids.. otherways. no orks and etc etc isn't so much of a ripoff because they are creatures of fantasy.. its not like warhammer created dwarfs and orks -.-
CS3SasukeCS3 2 years ago 3
I don't know how you could say that it is a WoW ripoff, there were many many MMOs out before WoW and it takes a ton of their ideas. WaR is VERY RvR(pvp) centralised, you can get through the game on pve content but the fun comes from the pvp side of things which is very well integrated into the game. WoW cannot compete for pvp, War has a progressive battlefield which ends up with you storming the enemies capital and attempting to kill their king.
iambeaniebro 2 years ago
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In this game, PvP (or as they call it, RvR) is crap. its just one big laggy pack of people, pushing all buttons wildly, no timing, no nothing. It looks very attractive on videos and so on. It was a pain in the ass to realize how much this game sucked goatballs.
bottomline: It looks fun, but its NOT.
There are no cool abilities to the melee classes such as: charge, intercept, pummel or stuns. they basicly all have ALOT of different strikes that all cost actionpoints.
jolun042 2 years ago
Choppas, slayers, white lions and marauders have charge (50% speed increase for 5s). All tanks get a pummel, most mdps and rdps get a stun. It really sounds like you didnt play enough to even get the slightest hint of what the game is trying to achieve. Dont like where the zerg is? go somewhere else and try to discretely take some keeps or do some skirmishing. If it was laggy for you then your pc may not have been good enough. Though for me fort takes are laggy as hell.
iambeaniebro 2 years ago
wow, reading your post, i feel so sad to think that i once cared about that stuff in a game.. go use your time doing something else please. a brain is a sad thing to waste.
rubent100 2 years ago
scenarios arent rvr... noobs
Joeygemalicious 2 years ago
yes they are.. without them u cant lockdown teirs... everything links together...
necroen 2 years ago
lol there's a dude with a Waaaagh! t-shirt on the back
metalbound7 2 years ago
The first music piece is good, but it's misplaced for a Zelot.
CmdrFoxDavion 2 years ago
me too what is it called?
rubent100 2 years ago
"me too what is it called?" Um I don't understand what your trying to say, your sentence doesn't make a lick of sense.
CmdrFoxDavion 2 years ago
oh wow. he's saying that he wants to know what the song is!! duh!!
zeama77 2 years ago
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CmdrFoxDavion 2 years ago
you do think u know everything smartass...
zeama77 2 years ago
i like the background music!!
tdog4500 2 years ago 4
Warhammer has been around for about 25 years.
And tell me this.
Why argue?
There both good games
But i prefer War over WoW
LazyFatDude 3 years ago 2
Yeah, but there are also 30-50 year old frp universes pretty much the same as WH, so only think I dont like on WH is the audience of fan boys which believe WH was the first to come up with such universe which is nonsense if you ever read anything else in your life.
9Charnel 3 years ago
While yes pretty much every Fantasy world has drawn from Tolkien. There is a very clear line where Warcraft drew from Warhammer. It is also well known that Warcraft was suppsoed to be a Warhammer game till GW said no.
blowme23 2 years ago 3
There are also clear lines where Warhammer drew from Warcraft like pretty much the same rts game design, not to mention WH-online which is complete rip-off concerning game mechanics. Only thing from WH that inspired Blizzard is it's universe, nothing else. Since WH universe is a copy of it's predecessors, it hardly can be named WH universe. So I don't give a shit who started first ( 1918 ). I only care about who is doing it best.
9Charnel 2 years ago
RTS game design? what are you talking about?
As for WAR ripping off of WoW as far as mmo mechanics go. Sorry to tell you this but WoW did not invent the MMO. In fact there is nothing original game mechanic wise in WoW. Sorry it has all been done before.
blowme23 2 years ago
Who said wow invented MMO? oO
As for RTS Blizzard made the standards with Starcraft. Since then nearly every game-dev company follow the same rts game concept. Fact is - this concept is originaly developed in warcraft "orcs and humans" ( 1994), starcraft just updated it. When I look at WH-DOW rts i see nearly the same rts concept.
9Charnel 2 years ago
well you said WAR ripped off WoWs game mechanics. How can they do that if WoW just took every other MMOs game mechanics.
As for RTS you clearly know nothing about it.
Go play Dune 2. That is the game that made the RTS genre what it is today. Every game including Warcraft came from Dune 2.
Every base building RTS is the same concept as Dune 2. Please do some research before posting that way you don't look like an idiot.
blowme23 2 years ago 2
Wtf are you talking about? Dune2?!?! I don't see any similarity between starcraft and dune2.
Yes WAR ripped off WoW. Isn't it strange? Blizzard makes warcraft 3 and then THQ makes same shit 3 years later WH-DOW trying to make same success ( but in vane ). Then Blizzard makes MMO WoW and profit billions of dollars, and then comes another company under GW ( as usual ) and makes the same shit 3 years later again trying to make the same success. They all envy them, it's so obvious.
9Charnel 2 years ago
wow you are either just a huge troll or a huge idiot. Hell go to wikipedia and look up real-time strategy.
blowme23 2 years ago
Wikipedia? Is that where you find all those stupid informations? Wikipedia is the biggest disinformer available on the internet, have you even played dune2 or warcraft, or your opinion is based on wiki texts?
9Charnel 2 years ago
Yes I have played both and anyone who has half a brain can see that Dune 2 made the RTS genre what it is today. But I can see you are just a troll good job troll, good job.
blowme23 2 years ago
other way around.... WoW copied most of its features, classes from Warhammer 40k
SergyBoyTV 2 years ago
ROFL do you even know what is WH40K?
9Charnel 2 years ago
"ROFL do you even know what is WH40K?"
Zerg = Tyranids
Terran = Space Marines
Protoss = Eldar (story wise)
check the credits at stracraft:
"Thank you Games Workshop for not suying us."
FarbrorKudde 2 years ago
Wtf is with you WH fanboys? Still talking about "credits" you misunderstood completely? Zerg and Tyranids?! oO
We talk about WoW here. Get your inferiority complex somewhere else.. WH Fanboys are obsessed with Blizzard while 99% of WoW/SC players don't even care about WH.
And Tyranids my friend are not original, they are pure copy of Xenomorph race created 10 years earlier. Space Marines neither, not even the Eldar. All of that was created way before WH even came out.
Go learn something.
9Charnel 2 years ago
don't have the energy to spell it out for u
FarbrorKudde 2 years ago
Since when dose Warhammer 40 000 have anything to do with Warhammer Fantasy other then the fact the Chaos gods exsist in both games (And in both they are slightly different anyway). And WoW isn't a Copy of WH40K moron, I think your looking for Starcraft. And even Starcraft isn't the same. People need to stop looking at models and simmular looking units and focus on the lore, which is completely different. For one, WoW is hyperfantasy, WAR is Grim fantasy.
CmdrFoxDavion 2 years ago
1 of the major differences between the two, Dragons in WoW are wardens who watch over the lesser races and are formed from 5 trees of creation and gardians of that strain of creation and the world. Time, Earth, Magic, Love, and Nature. In WAR dragons live on the mountains near the boarders of the north and are untaimed animals.
CmdrFoxDavion 2 years ago
just a small thing id like to add here.... Blizzard originally wanted to make the Warhammer 40k gam (LOOOOONG time ago) but got flat out rejected. and guess what game they made afterwards? Starcraft.
Im not trying to say that one is superior to the other i am a huge fan of both.
MatteV2 2 years ago
You do know that wow players and WAR players are exactly the same kind of humans?? It's not like ur born to play wow or WAR, "WH Fanboys are obsessed with Blizzard while 99% of WoW / SC players dont even care about WH" right... bullshit, check the other vids, "THIS SUXX WOW OWNS" most of the comments says. So go play ur wow with ur "born to play wow" friends and never come back to WAR vids if it sux so much.
zyntax95 2 years ago
Thats for Starcraft
WoW stole from WAR fantasy,not 40k
And yeah,everybody knows(at least the ones who think about it pass the thought "WOW ROCKS AND EVERYBODY STEAL FROM IT") that WoW had a lot of things inspired by WAR and even LOTR
nodakim13 2 years ago 2
even though im a WoW fanboy i have to admit
WoW stole their lore from Star Wars too!
I mean Arthas (Anakin), a paladin (jedi) being trained by Uther the lightbringer (Obi-Wan), then betraying his trainer to become a death knight (Darth Vader)
Moretzsohn1 2 years ago 2
hey yeah i see the connection, however thats a typical fantasy storyline, the one you pointed out. I bet you can look at stories from ancient times and see similarities, Greek myths especially, they mostly base around a 'hero' who undertakes a journey or something similar. Its the fundamental blueprint for any good story :D
skope91 2 years ago
Dose "when people run out of ideas they come up with non-original ones" mean anything to anybody? I know the hardcore critical can go on and on about how this rips off that rips off yada yada, you know that really bores people. Stupid weird world we live in I can tell you. If something is fun most people are none the wiser really. Even if critics, hardcore fans and creative directors cringe in horror.
CmdrFoxDavion 2 years ago
I'm npt sure but dont you mean Warhammer fantasy?
MatteV2 2 years ago
Warhammer fantasy was the original name for Warhammer. Which was used for the game back in 1st and 2nd Edition of the game. The name was since dropped, the game name simply reduced to Warhammer. In most circles it's still called Warhammer Fantasy even though the name was dropped nearly 15 years ago.
CmdrFoxDavion 2 years ago
umm.... where in my postdid i mention Fantasy? aka Warhammer. ?
i just..... cant understand why you brought it up when i was talking about blizzard ripping off 40K game concept while making Starcraft (wich is an awesome game btw)
MatteV2 2 years ago
Was just expanding on what you said before. Why? Because I was lazy and had nothing better to do then spout random common knowledge. :-P
CmdrFoxDavion 2 years ago
umm.... well as long as people get enllightened thats good ^^
MatteV2 2 years ago
But wait you also say and I quote "I don't give a shit who started first I only care about who is doing it best" Well then your entire inaccurate rant about Warcraft being first is totally invalid.
Blizzard is a good company but they are not an original company. They are great at taking games and making them easy to play so everyone can enjoy. The only original game they have ever came up with is Diablo.
blowme23 2 years ago 2
"As for RTS Blizzard made the standards with Starcraft"
WOW, time to put down the crack pipe..
Tuor19984 2 years ago 2
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they so copied off of world of warcraft
iamweezel411 3 years ago
ok if you had to make a game would you not copy the mmo with the most players?
Aocblene 3 years ago
wow, warcraft was based of warhammer orginally, im talking warcraft 1. and as an mmo, warcraft ripped off everquest. You dont see people posting on wow videos, hey thats a total rip off of everquest!
ConcernedHuman 3 years ago
Warhammer was around before Warcraft. In fact kiddo, Warcraft is very likely inspired by Warhammer.
What you have to consider is that they are both independent studios who put a LOT of hard work into what they do. Warhammer, while I have not played it; seems to have a niche in an otherwise flooded market. (PvP on a LARGE scale, an intricate class system, RvR to name but a few)
WoW on the other hand is one big grind, with no real "wow" factor. It's only good for a couple lols or two.
SomeBlokeLol 3 years ago
Let's not talk about how many stories Warhammer copied. You really think WH was the first to come with this idea?
Only dumb fan boys believe that. In truth it's nothing more than a popular teenage frp.
9Charnel 3 years ago
Nothing copied anythng. I used the word inspired.
SomeBlokeLol 3 years ago 2
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lol its kinda WoW! World of Walking
Xipo05 3 years ago
I have been at Warhammer for one week! Level 10 Zea....it is a fun class....shame I don't have more time to play. I tried to play WoW for 2 months....really went into it with an open mind. It just ended up being a Grind Fest. Warhammer came out and offered up a great style of play, as well a great style of art. Great graphics, and over all RVR is great! I will continue to play this game! WoW Will be left in the dust....and don't even remind me of Conan...LOL XD
kireiwa 3 years ago
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nice keyboard turns....
lol clicks...
lololololololololol
SUPitsDave 3 years ago
nothing is wrong with clicking or keyboard turning... so stop trying to tell ppl how they should play..
darkaura12 3 years ago
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LOL NOOOOOOOOB
reaction time is slower, not as precise, harder to do everything...
there's alot of things wrong with it.... i bet you were one of those mage's who sit on 1300 in WoW 3v3.
SUPitsDave 3 years ago
and you I bet your one of those no-life with full tier 6 AND full season 4.... /played u dumbass
fluffypopje 3 years ago
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i didnt say you could speak, bitch.
go make yourself useful and do my washing.
SUPitsDave 3 years ago
you're a loser Dave
jdm198 3 years ago
lol ^^
wowbringer 3 years ago
i have 25ish days and i have full s4... and ive been playing wow since before tbc, i bet by now most warhammer players have more played time on there than i do...
racingisfun 3 years ago
I have a zealot too where can i find this interface?? It rocks !!!
hazard666666 3 years ago
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this looks sooooooo boring
kimothyyyy 3 years ago
idk but ive been playing WAR for the past week and haven't even thought of logging in WOW :p love this game!
chainaxe8 3 years ago 6
actually hansil your wrong alot of gamers base the gameplay on basically the GAMEPLAY not the way there virtual characters attractiveness is
scotthrk 3 years ago
i play WAR bought the CE already lvl 40 and yes the movement of the characters does need a little more work, they look very mechanical atleast some of them, especially characters with robes on the order side. also elfs.
rubent100 3 years ago
Generally characters are not that well animated which will take away from the gameplay since the game is RvR oriented. Very sad though.
I was hoping this game will drive a stake through WoW's heart especially because Warhammer is a much better concept than Warcraft, but after playing it I seriously doubt it. Developers failed at character animation which is essential for gameplay experience.
HansiIsMyGod 3 years ago
Nice try at trolling, time to go away WoW fanboi.
tuor1984 3 years ago 4
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ummm? he isn't a wow fanboy, he even said that he this game to knock a little power out of Wow's lap. I agree with him, the animations look sloppy and don't keep my interested. Also, the gameplay doesn't look fast pase at all, i could never get into this over WoW. WoW got where it was because of how amazing it is, blizzard is a force to be reckoned with, you can't deny that.
jesusantispray 3 years ago
Your not even close to literate. How do you expect people to take your post? Sadly to say you seem to be the typical wow player.
lazrul 3 years ago
lol ya shitty didn't even look at what i typed afterwards, makes me look like an idiot i'll admit. The basic points are still there lol :P you just have to look a little deeper.
Also, I don't play wow all that much anymore, got tired of online fees, but i still have my respect for blizzard. Everything in this game looks too bland, can't find anything engaging. The animations looks too boring and the pvp just doesn't look very exciting overall. I'm just guessing that the pve isn't any better.
jesusantispray 3 years ago
I tell u that... WOW isnt even RPG anymore, skills update themselves, like WTF ? where is the ability to custom your player how u want ? only thing on WOW is perk tree or how would u call it, where u choose your attack actions. But skills make your character uniqe and wow doesnt have it...and now not even graphics, playstyle, content and GUI is unique so what would WOW contain for me, so I would keep paying it ? 3yo players base ? screwed PVP ? no thx I'll stick to old Funcom game
W1zzar3 3 years ago
I could care less about Animations (They look fine to me anyway) I'd rather the developers spend their time on mechanics and features rather than Eye-Candy and 10,000 different goofy armor sets.
DoctaGiggles 3 years ago
Might buy the game, however I'd rather try it out at someone elses' first. Looked at some of the newer videos and the animations were still shitty and it still looked "wooden" as juzelle said. The graphics look amazing though, if you look at higher quality movies.
denim3s 3 years ago
i think quite of the people saying that WAR has crap animations or bad graphics are baseing this entirely from videos like this, which is a bit odd, considering this footage was from over a year ago, and captured with a video camcorder ;/ there is a huge difference between this early beta vid and what the game looks like now.
lokisprodigy 3 years ago
PS: I like what I've played from the greenskin side of things. Everyone's going to play Chaos :D
juzelle 3 years ago
Warhammer seems to be suffering from the same issues that .. well pretty much every WoW competitor has:
It's animations SUCK. Like 'Vanguard' bad. They're wooden and lack almost any character. It would've looked amazing like 5 years ago.
I love the concept of real, solid world PVP, and the RVR combat in the beta is great. WoW had alot of faults, but everything they did came out polished(I.e: the tiny details).
That's what WAR lacks: It looks like absolute shit, it's an embaressment to GW :/
juzelle 3 years ago
what the fuck are you smokin cracker this game has awsome detail. does your comp suck ass or are you just basing it off this video..look when this was added
chetaloris1 3 years ago
he should also check his video setting in game :P
yaku3 3 years ago
vid from 2007, check the dates?
major improvements were made.
MarinoAwesome 3 years ago 2
Will auch son Orc"Schrank"^^ spielen
666Malkavian999 3 years ago
Hab ne frage an jemanden der deutsch kann^^ sollte aber auch WAR getestet haben oder immerhin fast alles darüber wissen, bitte per nachricht melden were uh nett, danke:)
BaumPandaGrizzlibaer 3 years ago
WAR IS FREAKING COOL
Btotheernd 3 years ago 4
gonna be a zealot for sure!!
K0ekebakkert 3 years ago
me too!
devviid 3 years ago
wtf pirates of carribean music lol.
cheezychimp 3 years ago
This is 1 year old footage @ noobleto.
Weasenjo 3 years ago
Ok so im gonna get this game 100% i was just curious if someone could help me with something the Zealot class what are they all about are they kinda like a warlock class What specs can u get and what kinda dmg do they do?
lithic3131 3 years ago
sorceres is more like warlock even got Dots...... it hase +- same skills as lock from wow SO if ya whant lock go Sorceres they own ALOT DMG and can spec dots or hard blast dmg ..
vanglabeke 3 years ago
The chaos magus got kinda Warlocky spells to and more in the corrupting kinda way, And many kind of fire and stuff, so if anyone likes Warlock they better try magus.
Deviatecod 3 years ago
in conclusion there are a bunch of warlock-ish classes just like there are a bunch of warrior classes hell most classes are mixes of different archetypes how else do you think they were able to create 20....
enragedmang 3 years ago
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*sigh just looks retartedly boring WoW deff looks better guess ill just see what happens when i play the beta
noobleto123 3 years ago
wow is better if you're a carebear faggot nigger that loves to grind daily quests and endless raids all day while growing a pimple farm on your face, go the fuck outside wowfag
z0neseek 3 years ago
word :) love ya
inflameswetrust92 3 years ago
grow up
rezurecta 3 years ago
AMEN!!!! HE SPEAKS THE TRUTH MY CHILDREN!!! DO NOT BE TEMPTED BY THE CARTOONY WOW AND ITS CARE BEAR WAYS!!!!! TRY THE NEW!!! wow sucks..... that is all
Swtnl 3 years ago
This is not "new",you should change the title.
But the vid still being a good aportation...
DrMGinius 3 years ago
Is it really so teambased at it seems :D as that would be reeeeaally cool... (didnt get to the beta :<)
Rawrght 3 years ago
whoa this fighting looks a lot better than all the others i have seen
Kilmonjaro117 3 years ago
does anyone knoe if thewre will be knockbacks and throwbacks at all in WAR, thqat would be awesome
squishyfeet123 3 years ago
I've seen someone get knocked back thrice in a video the other day during an RVR conflict so I would assume there are knockbacks available to certain classes. I may be wrong though.
dmxdre 3 years ago
dwarf ironbreakers have a big ass knock back
enragedmang 3 years ago
I'm playing this game for sure, I have the closed beta on torrent atm, and I'm just hoping it's like on WoW, bad side is more mature than the good :P Horde>Alliance!
Megazerox336 3 years ago
WoW was the biggest waste of £10 ever. I got bored in my first 3 days. Grind grind grind YEY!
Ymgarl 3 years ago
Megazerox,I hope it's more even,Because i play alliance and it's not Fun trying to get the daily done when you have to do 30+Matches to win one(unless it's alterac Valley)I Also hope the classes are more balanced(Balanced such as not every 8/10 people will pick the hunter class)
Russiandude15 3 years ago
So far, I've played it, The game is actually well balanced from what I've played so far, I'm only rank 3 (yes it goes by ranks, not levels) Chaos Marauder is a VERY interesting class, I must say. extremely fun too. I reccomend it for any newcomers to try a new, made-up clsss. It's very fun. I'm looking forward to try more once I'm higher levels on this marauder, I might try me a zealot, from this video they look pretty hxc. :P
Megazerox336 3 years ago
ARGH I hate the Magus disc.
Woolfman999 3 years ago
lol why?
xDatBoyKP57x 3 years ago
"i really hope this game is as good as it looks, i hate that the only "good" mmo out there right now is an endless grind of boring honor afk in caves and mindless zombie dailys and 25man zzz raids. BORING." /agree
WoW is just a constant grind
gdfgd6 3 years ago
thats all eevry mmorpg is about dude, what else did you want though? real life presents for exp?
rubent100 3 years ago
WoW is just boring to me period.. pvp? i just do it so i can get gear.. and its boring.. in warhammer its fun ive played it in the beta, and raiding in WoW is fun yeah but same old raids each week kinda get lame
gdfgd6 3 years ago
well i do agree with you, but in this game they have things called Public Quests. Where you can hop in and take part in the event with 15+ people without grouping up with them. This presents a very original and different way to gaining experience and items. People say you don't even feel the grind.
Paragon4444 3 years ago
I wonder if there is going to be stuff like Duel Wielding and so on... hope so
Stormpie4metal 3 years ago
Dark elf Disciple of Khain is a duel weilding support class, if that helps.
doug19591959 3 years ago
Oh and shadow warriors can dual wield although it isn't there main focus.
doug19591959 3 years ago
i really hope this game is as good as it looks, i hate that the only "good" mmo out there right now is an endless grind of boring honor afk in caves and mindless zombie dailys and 25man zzz raids. BORING.
z0neseek 3 years ago 3
To anyone who is thinking about getting into the game, stop by my guild website and drop an application in! Its VERY simple quick and it will help put you ahead of the rest when WAR is released!
Features a vent server to meet members before War Release and other new enhancements coming shortly.
We are a Hardcore RvR Destruction Guild (non-RP)
deadliestsin.guildlaunch. com
(space between . and com)
Foxvice 3 years ago
lol im thinking prhases form wow will be used on this like children comeing on thinking its still wow !
dumblinks 3 years ago
the chosen are only tank's or they do some dps to?
madmikelo 3 years ago
ok i have plzyed wow dark age and just about all the mmorpgs out ther and this has to be the best
i3uttgoblin 3 years ago
So is Chaos like undead in WoW ? OR what :O
hoitos 3 years ago
Actually, Warcraft was based off of Warhammer lore. So..... the Undead are pretty much the Chaos equivalent in Warcraft. Although, Chaos humans are not skeletal, but rather corrupted humans and such. (though those abominations you see in WoW will look very similar to the Chaos God Nurgle and his followers, because that is who they are based off of).
Irish360 3 years ago 2
this game looks better then WOW alrdy and its just the beta..
No im not EMO
xEVILxEMOKID 3 years ago 7
dude ive seen you comment every video yes warhammer looks good but damn get off its dick
jakubpauch 3 years ago
So you've been looking at every video too?? hrmmm
Tekner436 3 years ago
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spl5038 3 years ago
how r u playing this i thot it wasnt out yet
nyhm721 3 years ago
Beta testing my friend. This is a public video, so i have the rights to post it.
goak 3 years ago
so wait did u make this
fategg21 3 years ago
so since you got the beta can you help me out.
which class seems to be a good fun one to play so far?
9kervi 3 years ago
awesome game cant wait, this game pwnt wow
Tronar 3 years ago
anyone who is going to be playing destruction on WAR at release and is thinking about joining a guild. Come check out our guild website at
deadliestsin.guildlaunch. com
we are a very tightly nit group so far and are looking to get as many raw recruits as possible before release.
yorobashi 3 years ago
WAAAAGH!
kneegrowpl0x 3 years ago
im making a warhammer premade guild so when it comes out we will be ahead of the rest, go look at my website warhammerguild.weebly. com
warhammeronlineguild 3 years ago 2
Is Warhammer Online a click-to-move game?
japorms318 3 years ago
doubt it, although maybe you can click-to-move, or set it to be that in the options?
6000oOo0009 3 years ago
No if you look he's buffing and using AWSD to move, they wan't it to be a WoW killer so they need AWSD
DCkster1 3 years ago
WASD! >:O
glitch91 3 years ago
good movie, strange mix of music, found my self thinking "Eh? Pirates of the Caribbean and Battlefield 1942" but still very good movie :)
hamish6 3 years ago
yer i was like wtf i know these songs from somwere lol and then i heard all the sound effects in the second song and just laughed lol
BF1942
daggothar 3 years ago
It is in pirates of the Carribean as well. But well spotted.
DannySMalone 3 years ago
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WAR is going to suck so much
shortdude42004 3 years ago
thats an asumption
rekawn 3 years ago
dude they've changed alot of the graphics since when the vid was added and it is a beta
superbacon321 3 years ago
this was in beta, also the polished the graphics, so I read and heard, btw WAR IS COMING, they need to promote this, This is EA for fuck sakes, every other good video gaming companies, don't promote as much as I like, Gaming is to huge for something like this to hidden under a rock, you have to dig to find these kinds of things, this games going to be great, hope the WoW guys get off there asses and buy a copy, theres a good and bad thing, the community will be all fucked up,wow has a bad one.
onehooponedream 3 years ago 6
i am COOL
yeesnaw 3 years ago 4
THis blackorc was realy bad ..
MangaVoltage 3 years ago
pvp will give you 2 kinds of XP, leveling XP and renown XP which is your pvp rank
ifoughtthelaw33 3 years ago
I wonder how the lvling system is going to work since it is mostly pvp
Sweetrockerdude 3 years ago
Like ifoughtthelaw33 said, its going to work and give you renown and level xp.
So you could level up by pvping the whole time you play the game.
The game focuses on fun at all levels, so if you wanna pve it may give you more xp, but its not as fun as pvp while at the same time time they are both fun. Don't worry about leveling up, its going to be fairly easy, but also FUN!
JMIRULEZ 3 years ago
any 1 wanna trade me..i have a r.s acc lvl 69 i want a 2-month pre paid wow card..thanks :)
LilJon009 3 years ago
I'm starting to get worried, I've yet to see a video of PvP where people are moving WHILE attacking. Rather than moving in between attacks. It's going to destroy this game if you can't move while executing attacks. Because 2v1 = you're screwed.
Fritemare 3 years ago
Hmm I disagree, I've seen a Marauder vid where the guy is pretty much crushes everything in his path, while moving. Also, anything instant cast should be the same way as WoW, I guess.
illouie 3 years ago
Fritemare dont be worried my friend, unless they do some ungodly huge nerf to caster players you'll be able to move while charging up an attack. there are certain attacks where you must stand still while casting but alot of um you can run backwards while charging an attack and blasting, only problem is that you cant turn your back on someone while casting (which is why alot of noobs dont run cause they'd rather stand like turrets and just pivot)
yorobashi 3 years ago
Looks like they did the evolution of WoW before blizz do.
saultwister 3 years ago
I thought WoW was kick ass but this game is going FUCKING SWEET ASS HELL 10000000 times better than WoW!!!
mastercj95 3 years ago 2
Face it atleast all of us here have played wow..
and most of us are bored with it..
Warhammer is the true game..
World of warcraft is just a cheesy offspring of the big one.
Kovenflash33 3 years ago 3
i agree...i only bought wow when it came out pretending it to be warhammer lol
after a few months it was unsatisfying with all the grind and what not.
but now i'm stoked for WAR it's like my prayers have been awnsered and not only that they bring something totally new which is friggin amazing
56bloodhorn 3 years ago
slycoo77, not to make you mad my friend but did you know the original warcraft was originally going to be the original warhammer but warhammer's backed out at the last second, through some slight name changes they came up with warcraft I. So which came out first on PC? well both technically.
Ragnarok5 3 years ago
Um, Where on this sweet planet did you get those facts? Just makin stuff up, Kids these days I swear.
Warhammer is a Table Top game (40k and fantasy) Which have been out since the late 80s (prior to computers). Blizzard and Games Workshop are two disticntly different companies.
Thus I Digress. Your a moron.
DanteCarberelo 3 years ago
Yes of coarse the tabletop was before warcraft, dante if u read my post, it was over the subject of WC1's developement, and i agree with u on who came first, no need to argue or fling mud :/
Ragnarok5 3 years ago
Why should I get this instead of AoC? I've heard something about RvR, but in AoC you can fight Guild vs. Guild, in sieges! Any other arguments to get this?
Ps. I was a Warhammer Fantasy-player (Empire, Vampire Counts, Dark Elves)
pdrProductions 3 years ago
well unlike aoc the whole game is crafted around pvp. but the unique parts of WAR are the tome of knowledge, like xbox live achievements but with lore and game rewards, and public quests, like open world raids with scripted events and bosses. if you truely want to know more go to warhammer's site
jimi312 3 years ago
there will be keeps and sieges in warhammer online as well. :)
Baow93 3 years ago
can anyone clarify if this game is zoned or is it just one giant open sanbox type thing. Also is it instanced or open?
Schismhead 3 years ago