Muslim and Gay: Interviews with gay Muslims around the world, part 1

[tarneit69]

Have you not heard the Story of Prophet Lut?

Are you deaf, dumb or blind. Stop tainting the message of Islam.

[ThisIsMyDeen]

@tarneit69 Yes in fact I have heard it. But it does not mention loving homosexual relationships, and it does not specify that the sin the people committed was actually homosexuality, just "perversion." The perversion isn't specified, and could have just as easily been rape as homosexuality.

[tarneit69]

@ThisIsMyDeen Homosexuality is a concrete sin. Allah SWT says's in the Quran:

“And the two persons (man and woman) among you who commit illegal sexual intercourse, hurt them both. And if they repent (promise Allaah that they will never repeat, i.e. commit illegal sexual intercourse and other similar sins) and do righteous good deeds, leave them alone. Surely, Allaah is Ever All-Forgiving (the One Who forgives and accepts repentance), (and He is) Most Merciful”

[al-Nisa’ 4:16]

[tarneit69]

@ThisIsMyDeen “And (remember) Lot, We gave him Hukm &)knowledge, and We saved him from the town who practised Al‑Khabaa’ith (evil, wicked and filthy deeds). Verily, they were a people given to evil, & were Faasiqoon (rebellious, disobedient to Allaah)”

You think Allah would call them them Fasiqon & stone them to death if it were permissible? Don't be ignorant. Islam & Homosexuality are antithetical to one another. They cannot co-exist. Do not put a question mark where Allah has put a fullstop!

[nevyn1]

@tarneit69 Lot, you mean the guy who got drunk and impregnated his daughters in a cave?

[ajpisula]

@tarneit69 Again no facts, only your god displaying intolerance hate and murder.

[doctorshanab]

@ThisIsMyDeen well i don't specifically hate gays, but i think it is a wrong thing.

what makes me specifically take a dislikeing to you is when you try to hide ur wrong by saying "look there is nothing against it in the holy book" ... be gay all you want, but don't make stupid excuses like religion does not mind to lessen its impact ...

it is a shame homosexuals are discriminated against, but this kind of excuse u took give them some right to what they do ..

[tarneit69]

@tarneit69 “And (remember) Loot (Lot), when he said to his people: ‘Do you commit the worst sin such as none preceding you has committed in the ‘Aalameen (mankind and jinn)? Verily, you practise your lusts on men instead of women. Nay, but you are a people transgressing beyond bounds’”

Al-A’raaf 7:80-81

“Verily, We sent against them a violent storm of stones (which destroyed them all), except the family of Loot (Lot), them We saved in the last hour of the night”

Al-Qamar 54:34

[ajpisula]

@tarneit69 Again no facts, only intolerance of differences settled by your god murdering a large group of people

[ajpisula]

@tarneit69 Religious people are often intolerant of homosexuality because homosexuals and women are different than straight men and  threaten there base of power.Rules in most religions greatly favor the male especially in areas of money, power and dominance of women.

[94nonogirl]

gays=hell

[salimali95]

It's so sad that there are so many ignorant people still alive in our society. What a shame. Who cares if a person is gay or not? What does it have to do with any of us? Which part of that is any of our business? Who are we to say that they're wrong and we're right? How do we dare use an ancient, fictional book to make decisions that affect people's lives?

The people who are willing to kill innocent human beings for being gay are the ones who should be killed.

[PuffDaddy786]

satanic homos

[MuslimBro91]

People have to understand the action is what is haram in Islam, just like I might want to go out and smoke and drink you might not even care about that at all and not even think about it, you know? We all know intercourse before marriage is haram(the action) we should know there is more females than males in this world and 98% of people in jail are men so less females are dieing without being married and plus a lot of rich people just want to be swingers...it all comes down to "sake of Allah"

[SharpenedSpirit]

This is kufr, this video is kufr and you are a kufar.

May Allah (swt) curse you and people who follow you until The Day Of Judgment.

[ThisIsMyDeen]

@SharpenedSpirit I'm sorry you feel that way. I felt it important to show some solidarity for my Muslim brothers and sisters who happen to be gay.

[MuslimBro91]

@SharpenedSpirit wow. subhanAllah.

[DarkAnderebu]

@SharpenedSpirit Does God want us to curse others or to try to help and love others? I think you should decide this before you post comments like that.

[ajpisula]

@SharpenedSpirit First of all to have an arguement you disagree with the facts. That shows you can think for yourself if you can prove or disprove facts. Verbally attacking the person is not dealing with facts, that is the bully way to argue. If your Allah curses people that makes me wonder if your god is a moral creature.

[SharpenedSpirit]

@ajpisula "that makes me wonder if your god is a moral creature."

you do realise how stupid this statement was ?

god is not a creature, he is the creator

/facepalm

[super17a]

@TheSniper707 your a closed minded scum bag do you even know you're being played as a fool

[WrongWorldBuddy]

Looks a like a certain Jew has converted to Islam as part of a secret Jewish/Zionist plot to unsuccessfully erode Islam from inside.

tsk tsk ThisIsMyDeen

[ThisIsMyDeen]

@WrongWorldBuddy bwahahahaha.......That is an interesting theory, to be sure. I stick up for my gay friends and suddenly I'm part of a Zionist conspiracy.

[ElchananBenAvraham]

@ThisIsMyDeen yes, she really works for me ;)

[ThisIsMyDeen]

@ElchananBenAvraham now that my cover has been blown, the Elders of Zion demand that I commit ritual suicide. Bye :(

[TheSniper707]

What a disgusting video! Homosexuality is and has been an abomination since the time of Sodom and Gomorrah. Islam has never accepted and will never accept this abomination till the end of the world. Supporting homosexuality even though you are not a homosexual yourself is a sin in itself and will lead you to Kufr. The Quran is clear about it, there are no "ifs or buts". Bear that in mind my new muslim sister!

[ThisIsMyDeen]

@TheSniper707 Well, I'm out of the fag hag closet now! and I happen to be sitting in a class next to a gay man right this minute.

[ServiceProcess]

I take my hat off to you and the man on the other end of the phone line.

Well thought out searching questions, and very truthful and revealing answers.

Yes ... I learnt something today, which means .... you did a good job.

Thankyou.

[NIN9ART]

Wow, a hypocrite, the person admits that homosexuality is haraam in Islam but still tries to defend it. Pretty lame excuse, why doesn't he just start eating pork, not praying and all the other required things. After all "Allah created us in a certain manner".

[ThisIsMyDeen]

@NIN9ART oh woohoo, another person who disagrees with my video. wait, was that supposed to surprise me?

It's not my place, nor yours, to judge the lives of others. They must make their own decisions, and if necessary pay the consequences. But that does not give us the right to condemn them for their choices.

[NIN9ART]

@ThisIsMyDeen

If you read my statement again, I didn't pass judgment on anybody. As only Allah has the power of judgment. The point is no matter how you twist and turn it to support anything haraam, in the end it is still haraam. What you might have failed to understand is, yes us humans do haraam things because we were not created perfect. However, it is the duty of every Muslim to inform his people of haraam. If they decide to continue, it is out of your hands.

[ThisIsMyDeen]

@NIN9ART As he said he knows the Islamic position. But he does not believe he can change, nor is there empirical scientific evidence that indicates that homosexuality can be "reversed."

[ElchananBenAvraham]

Oh noez. Its teh homoz.  Back evil homoz. This video is gonna turn me gay. Thanks a lot :(

[ThisIsMyDeen]

@ElchananBenAvraham ZOMG I MADEZ HIM GAY :'(

[citacitasejati]

Continue from previous comments posted ...My friend wasn't born gay but after he got involved with it, he's now very attach to it & can't stay away from it. My other male working associate who carries effeminacy charactaristics, wore normal men clothes, married & he only attracted to women not men. Whatever it is, I believed in Allah.

[ThisIsMyDeen]

@citacitasejati Even having the gay gene doesn't make a person gay 100% of the time, scientifically, and there are studies that say that heteros with the gay gene are more attractive to the opposite sex than heteros without it.

If your friend had not had some homosexual or bisexual tendencies, he would not have dated that man in the first place. Would YOU date a man?

[citacitasejati]

@ThisIsMyDeen ...you think i lied about what i posted here ? then say I believe in Allah..

[ThisIsMyDeen]

@citacitasejati From my perspective, it's like hearing "This man seduced a woman I knew and now she's a heterosexual prostitute.."

[citacitasejati]

@ThisIsMyDeen ....i don't know what are you trying to say here, all i can say is may Allah forgives you.

[citacitasejati]

I asked one of my gay friends (long ago) whether he was born gay or he develops it later in life. He said that while he was studying abroad he was approached by a rich,professional man (who happens to be a gay). The men showered him with money/gifts & he ended up becoming his partner.

[thewindknight2020]

what a dirty video ?? this crap has nothing to do with Islam .... how comes that u r less than 1 year old moslem and you have been asked many times 2 do this video ???!!!!!!!!! i don't kno  i really feel that there is some thing wrong with u ???? anyway ISLAM WILL NEVER FALL

[99minerkc]

A women's breast in my mind are NOTHING like an ass but only in the front! The person who said that they are is no doubt missing something here, that being nipples! Nipples are a MAJOR turn on as a part of a woman's breasts, something that the most beautiful ass in the world cannot provide!! o.O

[ThisIsMyDeen]

@99minerkc well my biology teacher was gay, and im sure he was just telling it like he sees it.

[99minerkc]

@ThisIsMyDeen I'm not saying he wasn't telling it as "he" saw it. I am claiming that he's missing something as I already stated! All you have to do is your "own research" via the internet to find the answer you want to embrace!

[ThisIsMyDeen]

@99minerkc as a straight girl, I find myself only about as attracted to bewbies as the average gay man: maybe a little bit sometimes, but not enough to consider myself gay or bi. And I don't find the turn-on to be nipples, just nice cleavage. The closer the cleavage looks to a fine ass, the more attractive I find it. So his point made sense to me.

[99minerkc]

@ThisIsMyDeen As a straight man who has ALWAYS :) been attracted more to a woman's breast than her ass, I have to confess that what your teacher said made no sense to me what so ever! If a woman's nipples weren't such a turn on to me I might well agree with your teacher, but alas, they're a major turn on to me! Anyway, take care!

[DeeJayAllah]

What a pointless video...

[ThisIsMyDeen]

@DeeJayAllah What a pointless comment....

[mishmish1806]

This was a good interview/video to put up. Unfortunately, I doubt it will really get through to many people.

[ThisIsMyDeen]

@mishmish1806 It is rather doubtful that anyone will be positively affected by a handful of interviews. But who knows.

[786awais786]

this guy is mentally sick! his neurological pathways have to be reversed. he has lived in environment where he has been impacted with this non-sense. and pshcological dilemma.

obviously iblis did this to him, everything evil and prohibited things are either from our whimps and desires or from satan. He can place himself. Also, so had he already experienced? had he fornicated or what? what the heck?

There are ways to over write this twisted mindedness. and its possible clinically.

[ThisIsMyDeen]

@786awais786 So, what treatments have been proven effective in, say, over 50% of cases?

[786awais786]

@ThisIsMyDeen cognitive behaviour reversal, basically needs a muslim Scholor or psycharitist.needs to attain more fear of Allah(SWT). For muslim, when he accepts that Allah(SWT) is his lord.he has to accept everything he said. We have this strandard when it comes to our daily life while dealing with power, when its comes to Allah(SWT), citeria changes.sign of disbelief! Allah Said so is enough for muslims. failing is a part of life, put a stigma on faith while been selfish. taqwa =100% results

[786awais786]

@786awais786 And (remember) Lût (Lot), when he said to his people: "Do you commit the worst sin such as none preceding you has committed in the 'Alamîn (mankind and jinn)? (80) "Verily, you practise your lusts on men instead of women. Nay, but you are a people transgressing beyond bounds (by committing great sins)." (81) Chapter 7 Al Quran.

[786awais786]

@786awais786 "So fear Allah and obey me. (163) "No reward do I ask of you for it: my reward is only from the Lord of the Worlds. (164) "Of all the creatures in the world, will ye approach males. (165) "And leave those whom Allah has created for you to be your mates? Nay, ye are a people transgressing (all limits)!" (166) chapter 26.. Al Quran.

[786awais786]

@786awais786 Clinically, any behaviour reversal is possible if a person is willing to do. They do put homosexuality as acceptable while training physcian, but guess what they can't put it in Physiology, biochemistry or any other logical science. but they put it under Behaviour Science or under law or ethics, just to give asylum. as they do have scientific logic to explain it, but just accepting something a norm, doesn't necessary means its a norm.

[786awais786]

@786awais786 behaviour modications and cognitive reversal are out there to treat the brain from so many things, that a person can't even imagine. When you intend to get a solution, you will find a solution. but when you made a decision or accepted something which is moral sickness, you can't get treatment of it. then professional may able to tell you techniques. Why so many people get the treatment of it clinically, if it was not possible.

[786awais786]

@786awais786 Lastly, if u are gonna make video to promote these things, please change the name of ur chanel, ThisisMyDeen, its not your or anyone's deen. Its a Deen belongs to Allah(SWT), he has taken care of it, and will do it till end times. i don't knw wat r u trying to do? whether craving attention, there is no need to touch these topic or opening can of worms without knowing everything about them. or give support or asylum like this to something Allah(SWT) has forbidded. Only Allah's way

[ThisIsMyDeen]

@786awais786 I'm a trained professional capable of administering cognitive-behavioral therapy, and I am 100% sure that it cannot be used to reverse sexual orientation, except in the case of bisexuals; but they're already about equally attracted to both sexes.

I believe that homosexuality should be decriminalized under shariah. I may not live to see the day when it will gain acceptance as a lifestyle choice, but I do hope I can live to see it decriminalized.

[786awais786]

@ThisIsMyDeen well sister, u can asked the question to the God, thinking and specualations have no place in religion. Secondly, i am studying in medial field myself, and came across, psychology, psycharity, neurology, behaviour science, and neuroanatomy. and the same medicine is treating people with homosexuality, as many people are already have gotten the treatment for it. homosexuality is legalized and u get inspired by it, Astakfurullah! its no science until proven.

[786awais786]

@786awais786 u beliefs are out of islam, and there is no place for them in islam. as Islam is perfect the way it was came, and shariah is perfect the way it is. we don't change things which are just not acceptable by some. as changing deen and changing the order of God is something which jews and christian have done before islam. and islam is the deenulhaq and there is no place for change in it. as muslims can live however they want either be slave of God, or to shatan or their whimps & desires.

[arabianspirit67]

you cant be muslim and gay sorry you can call yourself muslim but your not god hates the actions of homosexuals and yes shaytan(the devil) is a big part of being gay.

[skysoul2009]

1st this video has nothing to do with Islam.

2nd. there is nothing such as being boring gay. EVIDENCEs, if being gay is something about being born gay then why there is nothing talks about homo in the history or in the prophets stories b4 the people of the prophet Loat ( PBUH) ????

3ed. i kno its ur channel and u can post whaever u want on it.however,  would u plz, in the future, when u do gay video DON'T put the word Islam in it.

[ThisIsMyDeen]

@skysoul2009 This person--these people that I will be interviewing--are Muslims. They are Muslims who are gay. Some of the my gay friends are even reverts.

[skysoul2009]

@ThisIsMyDeen

and what is the point of this ? r u converted to Islam to be on the right path which is the path of the prophet Muhamed ( PBUH) or 2 make interviews with what u called "moslem gays" what about u 1st educate yourself about the islmic view of homo if u fancy the subject and support urself with some evdence from the quran an soni then talk about the subject if u like. this why we say Islam is a way of live. not do whatever u like doing.

[99minerkc]

@skysoul2009 you said, "3ed. i kno its ur channel and u can post whaever u want on it.however, would u plz, in the future, when u do gay video DON'T put the word Islam in it" I hope she DOES put the word Islam in it as it's VERY MUCH RELATED!!

[jouhainey]

Very good work Saffiyah :)

[MrDr77]

May Allah punish those filthy ppl as He punished people of Lot

clean the earth from these filthy ppl....

[IQ233]

@hqudsi0489

bro, i do not mean to offend you but as you already know, holding a homosexual relationship is just like holding an intimate relationship outside of marraige is just like drinking alchol is just like eating pig. we know these are Haram.

[ThisIsMyDeen]

@IQ233 What about gay marriage? if two gay people get married, then they're not having relations outside of marriage.

[IQ233]

@ThisIsMyDeen

as a guy, is it ok for me to marry my blood sister then have an intimate relationship with her? i understand that this topic is sensitive, & i'm afraid i may say something that comes out the wrong way. if you want we can discuss more by pm.

i am attracted to certain people with certain desires that if i were to submit to them, it would be harmful for me and a sin. i have chosen to stay away from these desires: watch video: "Over coming your desires and gaining self control"

[ThisIsMyDeen]

@IQ233 Some of my gay friends havent had sex with anyone for years, but that doesn't make them any less gay.

[ElchananBenAvraham]

@ThisIsMyDeen specifically me :D

[proper33]

There is no such thing as being gay in Islam.

The people of Prophet Lut (peace be upon him) were destroyed because of this.

The Quran: The people of Lut rejected (his) warning. We sent against them a violent Tornado with showers of stones, (which destroyed them), except Lut's household: them We delivered by early Dawn,- As a Grace from Us: thus do We reward those who give thanks. And (Lut) did warn them of Our Punishment, but they disputed about the Warning. (Surat al-Qamar:, 33-36)

[GlobalDuty]

Correct me if i am wrong sister:

Islam teaches that homosexual ACTS are sinful and punishable by God.

what one gender feels about its own gender is irrelevent to me right now. but Acts of homosexuality are against Islam.

A married man is still attracted to other women he is not married to. this does not make the man an adulterer.

[ThisIsMyDeen]

@GlobalDuty Some of my gay friends haven't had sex for years, but they're still just as gay.

[GlobalDuty]

@ThisIsMyDeen

there is much proof that sexual desires in certain people change overtime. just search "lesbian until graduation" or Ex-gays.

This is very wierd Age we live in, very different from previous generations. alot is changing and i think what WorldCapitalBeats has much truth in it. I would think that Our enviroment plays a major role in this. there are so many different disgusting sexual practices today, that Pedophilia, homosexuality may look good in comparison.

Allah knows best.

[ThisIsMyDeen]

@GlobalDuty There is a scale of attraction:

M |-----x-----------------------­--|---------------------------­----|F

I fall where the x is. I'm mostly attracted to men, not as much to women. so im straight. Some people who fall more towards the middle can go either way: they can like men or women. But people on the far end on either side of the spectrum won't sway very much over time. "Therapies" meant to "cure" homosexuals are effective in only 10-15% of cases.

[WorldCapitalBeats]

@ThisIsMyDeen No that simple scale you propose doesn't represent truth. Its not 2 dimensional. Someone can be bisexual, or hetero, or homo, or not have much sexual desires at all.

By the way, I hope you know showing any support towards such an evil and haram, disgusting, socially harming thing as being homosexual is extremely against Islam and is very bad deeds.

[ThisIsMyDeen]

@WorldCapitalBeats bisexual people fall in the middle of the scale. there are very few true assexual persons but they can just leave the scale blank because it doesn't apply to them.

I'm sorry you feel that it's wrong to love my brothers in Islam, but these people are my brothers and sisters, and I love them and support them, no matter what they do with their lives.

[WorldCapitalBeats]

@ThisIsMyDeen Once again, you are misinterpreting what I said, which was clear.

To support homosexuality is a sin. I don't say you can't be friends with these misguided people.  But if you support this great deviance then thats a great sin, you are in fact promoting it, so even if you don't do it, you will still be punished perhaps even more because you are supporting it openly to many people, which is worse then some closet gays.

Don't risk the Hellfire over a crystal-clear issue like this.

[hqudsi0489]

@GlobalDuty im sorry to burst you're Islamically skewed outlook BROTHER..but I live this reality everyday..so you are barking up the wrong tree here. I am gay..whether you or any religious weirdo interprets it wrong or not. I have a more fulfilling relationship with males (both intimately and emotionally) than I do with women..oh and by the way...the video you just watched..that was me :) have a good day!

[GlobalDuty]

@hqudsi0489 im sorry, but what did i say that was wrong? i'm asking because i don't know.

[hqudsi0489]

@GlobalDuty okay..im sorry as well. WorldCapitalBeats pissed me off..and im sorry i took it our on you. it is Islamically wrong to be gay..this much i know..i am the one in the interview. But when you think about it..you must be heterosexual..being attracted to the opposite sex is just how things are for you. When I see a woman..even nude..nothing happens. It just proves that the way i am is just that..gay..homosexual. however you would like.. Bottom line..i did not choose this.

[WorldCapitalBeats]

@hqudsi0489 You have control over your thinking patterns. A drug addict can over time make themselves adverse to that drug, by thinking of all the negative it brings, and the positive of being clean.

Homosexuality is much more unclean then any drug, its an abomination. You have probably seen many nude people, especially women, at least in pictures and movies. Don't watch pornography, it ruins the mind, and seeing men naked will only make your issue worse. Keep your mind clean and read Qur'an.

[WorldCapitalBeats]

I don't by this whole thing of being born gay. People are raised like that, its the TV, its the culture, its the parents way they treat them, its the masculination of women and feminization of men. Its the in-your-face gay culture everywhere. Its the vaccines, its the chemicals, its the technology - facebook, texting, secular culture, etc.

Tell these homosexuals to stop watching the TV, stop facebook, stop idolizing satanic people. The Shaytan wants you to be gay, its a great sin, its unclean.

[ThisIsMyDeen]

@WorldCapitalBeats If facebook makes you gay, then I am like, UBERGAY. Except I'm NOT ubergay, so facebook must not make people gay.

[WorldCapitalBeats]

@ThisIsMyDeen I didn't say Facebook makes you gay. Facebook increases the likelihood, its filled with men and women boys and girls totally self-indulged, posing like kuffar models, talking to people on the chat with such ease to commit ZINA, its a great tool of the Shaytan and many are easily led astray by it. I don't use facebook, it can have some benefit, but the harm is MUCH greater for almost everyone who uses it.

[ThisIsMyDeen]

@WorldCapitalBeats I don't think that using facebook (almost constantly) has increased my likelihood to be gay at all. If it had I would be really gay. I'm no more gay now than i was when i opened my facebook account four or five years ago.

[hqudsi0489]

@WorldCapitalBeats go fuck yourself..seriously. try it..then tell me which is better. Vagina or anal stimulation. :P

[WorldCapitalBeats]

@hqudsi0489 You're one sick individual. Your words are in the Hellfire.

[hqudsi0489]

@WorldCapitalBeats meh..the reality cannot hide behind religion.

[WorldCapitalBeats]

@hqudsi0489 The reality hiding behind religion? Even your phrasing is like the disbelievers. Do you even believe in Allah and the Last Day? FEAR ALLAH

[hqudsi0489]

@WorldCapitalBeats and you clearly need to get out of the mosque..

[WorldCapitalBeats]

@hqudsi0489 By your disgusting words you show everyone the filthy mindset that you have, so such a disgusting person like yourself of course has no problem with being a backwards social abomination like a gay. Its a great sin in Islam, so wallow in your filth you scum.

[aurayon]

@WorldCapitalBeats Wow, you really need a history lesson.

[hasan7196]

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