UFC fighting isnt proof that somethings combat effective.Aikido seems to be a target in the comments section mainly by UFC fans.Legalize small joint manipulations, and find a skilled Aikidoa willing to break O Sensei's anti competition beliefs and everyone of the UFC fellas would be flocking to Aikido schools to learn it like they did BJJ.Aikido would dominate UFC under that hypothetical rule change.No small joint manipulation rules for an Aikidoa is the same as telling a boxer no punching!
Movements are telegraphed, yes, but the reaction time you build, the pins/movements you learn, and techniques, are all very easily applicable in any street fight.
@eliazourosqw I understand why you believe that and I respect the art as an art. But, until you take those techniques and attempt to apply them to someone training in mixed martial arts at a competitive level, i.e., until you see a grandmaster ever step into a bare knuckle competition...you will have zero proof of this being effective in regards to relaying Aikido to the world via a medium such as youtube. Folks watch UFC, Pride, etc these days - you just can't fool the world anymore.
très beau, mais pas du tout efficace en applicatif ce qu'il fait, 0:45 bloquage de l'adversaire, stabilisation, et il repart .. de plus le uke amorce sont attaque.. trop prévisible. Juste bon pour la démonstration.
Not to appreciate a martial art and to criticize a master is just ignorance. Telegraphed or not... I'm quite certain he can take care of himself with a skilled opponent in a real self defense situation.
this form of martial arts is really beautiful! I don't know a thing about Aikido, or any self defense for that matter...But just watching this gives you an idea of how strong and controlled you have to be just to make a demonstration for this. All of these moves look so graceful, like the students and teachers are dancing! but you can also see the power in which they inflict upon each other, and that would be so painful if that strength was inflicted on yourself! I have respect for this art.
It's beautiful even with those silly telegraphed hand chops and hip loaded reverse punches - but the physics are wrong - the human body has to be conditioned to respond to those techniques - hence why you'll never see an MMA guy fly around a ring. But - martial arts is like a religious experience for many people. God forbid you point out reality to its followers. But c'est la vie, c'est l'ignorance.
Seriously, everyone who hates on Aikido or an martial art for that matter. Lets put it in this perspective. Anyone can sit and debat ewhich is better but when it all comes down to an actaul fight
why does everyone feel the need to hate on other peoples art??? 'oh aikido would be no good against mma blah blah blah jf thats the case who wolud win between an mma fighter and an iaidoka, i have a pretty good idea who. but the point is the martial art is about more than just scrapping.
very beautiful but so innefective.Who's gonna punch you and leave their arms like that for u to grab it.Most people will retract their arm.I'd like to go to an aikido class and see how they train.
@frenchguy09 The aikido style I train in is more of an aiki jujitsu. however we pratictice traditonal segment of aikido. To make aikido work you need to strike the opponent to be able to do any technique. One other thing you guys fail to look at is when demos are preformed they do so from a traditional stand point. With all the different styles of boxing Mixed martial arts, etc of course the demos look eneffective. But 70 -90 yrs ago when aikido was aiki budo that was how the japanese fight.
The point being that you have to adapt aikido to the styles to what you might come across on the streets. Learn thai boxing and learn how to apply aikido techniques to defend against elbows/shin kicks, grapplers and ground fighting etc. Practice gun removeal along with sword removeal. Its good to learn traditonal arts but you need to make it effective and relevent. Just because the demos are staged doesnt mean you can rule it out as an eneffective art.
@sazen9 I've watched serbian aikido somewhere on youtube i forgot the name of the school .That looked very effective to me in certain situations but not this video.
@frenchguy09 Tissier is traditonal aikikai. They are very strict on keeping everyting the same way O sensei created it and keeping in line with the philosophy of takemus aiki. I for one am a ferm believer that you must learn as many different arts as you can to better understand the art you use. Then you can find what works what does not and so on. Demos are just there to promote the awarness of the martial arts not their effectiveness
Well I will say that I have no doubt that a master will tear apart a guy like me or any other amateur. However, for me, I suppose when I attempt to rationalize the value of the art - I try to place the "masters" of any art in the ring with today's mixed martial arts practitioners. For example, Fedor Emelienko, Mirko Cro Cop, Brock Lesnar, etc., I would humbly love to see if Aikido would work at all against their level of skill or as Bas Ruuten stated simply, no.
For that people who think Aikido is not effective: Aikido is the way of love, the Art of peace, Has been thinked for not hurt anybody. The tecnique is directly related to attack. One must look for purity of mouvement as well, specially in show. In the street is the same, one must "dissuade" an aggressor without hurting too much, in order to make him thinking about his behaviour; maybe is not so elegant but effective and painful, belive me, better not try "street Aikido". (excuse my English)
@kototamabushi ah voila un pratiquant à ce que je vois :) C'est dommage que beaucoup de gens ne comprennent pas l'aikido :( UFC ils ont que ca à la bouche et pensent que c'est comme du combat de rue lol
@typhus0007 "Merci" for share my thinking! Keep following the "Way" with joy and curiosity!!!! ;-))
All the best!
p.s. Don't warry if something is difficoult to comprend, included the other people thinking, is difficoult for me too and I started at 17 and now I am 51 !!
l'Aïkido c'est vremant nul, j'en ai fais pendant 1mois, je trouve que c'est inutile vous avec déjà vus des combats ou le mec va te donné un coup a 2mètre avec le bras déjà tendu ? NON !
Dans un combat c'est " Coups de poing sans prévenir dans la face, je t'attrape par la gorge coup de boule, je te met a terre et je t'enchaine" Faut etre réaliste se genre de combat tu vois ça que dans les films.
La seul chose bien ce sont les prises de finition.
@Obsyde mdr en 1 mois d'aikido t'as compris tout ca toi? Mon loulou, laisse moi te dire que tu n'as rien compris aux "arts martiaux". Moi je fais des arts martiaux (judo, jiu-jitsu, muay thai). J'ai commencé à 5 ans et en ai 24 mnt. Je pratique l'aikido depuis mnt 3 ans et demi. Et je px t'assurer que l'aikido est vraiment efficace. Mais c'est un art martial très développé et compliqué demandant de nombreuses années de pratique. Alors ne parle pas de l'aikido en aillant fait 1 mois...
@typhus0007 Bin écoute tu m'appels le jour ou tu veras un gas qui fais de L'aikido battre un gas qui pratique dans UFC ( un sport qui montre vremant l'aspect brut d'un combat).
Je te donne un exemple mon ami qui fait depuit 10ans de judo n'a même pas osé déffendre un autre copain ou il etait deux contre lui.
Question 10ans de judo qui te serve a quoi ? a rien....
Aprés tu parles du muay thai la je veux bien l'avoué que se sport ( completement différent de l'aikido en passent) et + Dur
@Obsyde t'as raison , vaut mieux apprendre le kickboxing au lieu de l'aikido.Dans la rue , il n'ya personne qui se bagarre comme sa , en laissant leur bras en l'air pour que l'advesaire l'attrape.Dans un combat de rue les coups s'enchainent.
@TSGJaws well, if someone really want to physically hurt you and even with knifes or some sort of club. i just heared that it is not a very practical martial art.
I just always think: If someone really wants to hurt you, he'll give you the bottle from the back and no martial art will help you with that.
in the usual "real" fights that start like "hey, who're you looking at, bastard?" aikido did a good job so far.
Imo Aikido is good training against Knive/Club situations. Its got its roots in sword fighting and it trains to evade instead of block. But even though we actually do knive/club defense in dojo, i'd probably try to avoid the situation irl.
@romain3003 J'en ai fait 3 avant d'arrêter l'aïkido et à chaque fois j'ai été impressionné autant par sa technique que par sa pédagogie. En + il est très accessible (n'a pas du tout la grosse tête) et sait se mettre au niveau de n'importe qui ;)
have you ever thought of martial arts being more than comparing muscles, speed and reflexes, more than fighting? miyamoto musashi is the best example: at first he was (had) a weapon. a fierce one. so he always had to fight and barely had peace. there's always one who thinks to be the bigger fish. the key was not to fight (kill) even if it seemed inevitable. eventually, he longed for peace not victory, exchanged his swords for a bokken and remained the best of all.
Youtube that - he pretty much sums it up. Like I said - please folks - do not defend your art with "we can't eye gouge in mma" as being why we don't see Kenpo, Ninjutsu, Wing Chun, Shaolin Kungfu, etc....in the octagon. At least attempt a more viable defense - otherwise I'm going to assume Kenpo, Wing Chun, Shaolin Kungfu AND Aikido are just gouging styles...but lo and behold this video has ZERO eye gouging. I want 1 video of Aikido in mma - please.
There have been Aikidoka that entered and did not fare well in MMA. Then again neither did other non-ground styles. As far as a definitive video there is one of a guy against an MMA fighter. If you still itch for a video, then it's best you go make one for the rest of us, since you obviously need to prove something. Aikido philosophy is the very antithesis of MMA fighting. It's goal is of nonviolent resolution to conflict for the average individual. Not everyone is an MMA fighter.
Not every response calls for punching, kicking, armbarring, etc someone in a self-defense situation. That's the MMA mentality. It's wasted movement and impractical and many ppl do not agree to such violent responses. Do you really need to do all that just to break out of a grab? No. Sometimes, merely reversing the grip into a wrist lock and breaking out of it is enough to get the job done. Simple and efficient and no one gets hurt.
I do agree with the efficiency of Aikido. I wish to dabble in it later in my martial arts career in a dojo. From what I have acquired from it already, though, is angles of attack or defense. I'm a grappler and a Mixed Martial Artist, and I study anything and everything that will make a person submit. I find that suprising wrist locks have gotten me the most wins and that's all from learning aikido basics.
Thank you. The principles of aiki can be applied in MMA. Many times you will see guys tied in a clinch. Rarely do you see any sort of aiki being exercised in that range. Wrist locks are overlooked in grappling. If you can snag a wrist you have a chance of reversing out of a bad position. The bottom line is this: treat your mind as you would a sponge, let it soak everything up and leave nothing to chance. The more you know, the better your edge.
@kennjay79 Cross training is and excellent idea. The more I do the more I realise aikido is very effective. A lot of the training is about timing, body position, balance etc. For sure, to be a complete martial artist takes many disciplines. Fighting is another story - no holds, life and death....what system fully prepares you for it. There is no training scenario that can prepare for the real deal....train principles, train the fighter, train the mind and then...trust the skill
With all respect - the Kenpo Karate guys make the same defense. What you are in fact doing by defending Aikido in that way - is you are saying it is limited to those techniques..i.e., only to illegal techniques. My point is that I have yet to see an Aikido master throw ANYONE around the mat like the telegraphed and obviously orchestrated techniques the art demonstrates as its trademark.
I will humbly have to state that there is a reason why you don't see quite a few "arts" in the UFC or otherwise. The problem as Bas Rutten stated in regards to Aikido is there is a difference between an art and a martial art in regards to what is effective. However, could you please clarify my own naivity and direct me to some video that shows an open combat event or actual unpredictable attacks being used in a demonstration? I cannot find even one. Thank you mate /salute
@Chad01234 uhhh this is my two cents worth of a thought. The reason aikido/hapkido/pretty much anything tradtional doesn't work in mma is because a lot of things are illegal in mma. for exmp eye gouging, crouch shots, fishhooking, and most importantly small joint manipulation. Legalize this and you have an illegal sport that can infact cause death. In a real life situation i'd rather have tissier backing me up rather than fedor or shogun rua. hey.. machida proved an art can be a sport
Effective martial arts needs to be built around defense and offense that involves retracting, none telegraphed techniques. Weapon and empty hand techniques should be built around defending against an advanced attacker who uses speed and precision in their attacks. Using and identifying fakes and feints are as well integral in training. Even a mediocre street fighter can train to fake a straight thrust to the face and then retract and re-thrust a fully dedicated lethal strike elsewhere.
I think you are mistaken. A well trained Aikido isn't simply going to sit there and be fooled by fakes and feints. Aikidokas maintain what's called ma-ai or harmonious distance from you. This is the distance where he is just beyond your reach. You can fake and feint all day but there will be some point where you end up committing to an attack and that is their point of entry. Likewise, an Aikidoka can take the initiative and strike you first, parry or rush into you drawing a response.
My final point is (and Aikido is not the only system that is guilty of this) in demonstrations - moves are telegraphed. That's how a demo works and I understand that. But as a neophyte student walking off the street - I would want to be educated correctly by hands on application. This is why floor systems are so effective - they get to practice at 100% (other than outright strikes and breaks). Martial arts needs to be built around defense that involves retracting, none telegraphed techniques
It's true that demonstration's techniques are choosen and defined before the demo takes place. I have participated in several demonstrations with my club. Though, good demonstrations are anyway dificult to apply. And most of the time, in a demo, there is always 1 or 2 techniques you make but which were not decided to be made, because when the attack happens, sometimes it's better to do another technique than the one we wanted to do (i don't know if i'm clear)
@myristique This doesn't take away that Aikido is effective. As long as you train hard and do your best to make it become a second nature, you will manage to defend yourself on the street using Aikido. Agree?
@Chad01234 Aikido is a martial art of self defense.What u learn in dojo is a variations of this art.U might not use everthing that u learned on the street.Few of this basic techniques r very useful but to master & understand it u need to learn variations of techniques(with patience) in this art & it takes 4-5 years to really used it on the street when it is needed.Whatever negative comments about it, i'm sure aikidoka will learn these:1)caution 2)distance 3)reflex 4)speed 5)stability & 6)timing.
@Chad01234 - you can't learn to ride a bike at a seminar........... real time randori and real time training are the only effective ways of practicing technique
@Chad01234 A demo is just a demo. Demos are made to look nice and spectacular because they are for the audience not the Martial artist. You have to look at the style of training to understand how well you'll be educated when you walk onto the street.
@Chad01234 Each technique in Aikido is a "story", means it has a story built in by a series of if-then condition througt Uke and Tori interaction. Techniques are not applicable at all, as you see. These serve only to educate the movement, which is why are just called "Techniques" and not combats.
@istilius I can appreciate that reply. It makes sense from what I have seen. So you are saying there is a level of spiritualism involved in the movements? Sort of a move this way and connect to Zen sort of thing? Or am I off base?
@Chad01234 You are right. You should consult the philosophy of Ueshiba O Sensei to read more about this. Aikido is based around the concept of universal harmony. It was developed to attain self-perfection and to become one with the universe. None of aikido's moves are in contradiction with nature. I run short words to fully explain this and leave a stainless definition, so it's better for you to google it.
@istilius Indeed. Those who say that the techniques are ineffective clearly haven't studied it too well. Aikido teaches that improvisation is the best form of self-defense. But in order to improvise, one has to learn the principles. These principles are taught by means of techniques.
It is stupid to think that each attack is answered by a particular technique.
@Chad01234 remember it's a demonstration, people in the audience can be very far. That's why techniques are emphasized to make them visible by everybody.
@thejohnou I am sorry you actually believe that. Youtube aikido practices in a small dojo or between two people on a close up video. It's the same telegraphed ballet every time. You will NEVER see one Aikido man retract his strikes and force his opponent to have to predict technique - like I said, it's art, nothing more, nothing less. You will never see it in mixed martial arts or ONE video of this in a real fight. Unfortunately!
@Chad01234 "You will NEVER see one Aikido man retract his strikes and force his opponent to have to predict technique"
Well, I'm sorry but I practice this way at every aikido class, for example by doing jiu waza. Many uke don't attack sincerly, and that's a real caveat. But don't give up! Investment in aikido will pay, sooner or later.
@thejohnou Don't get me wrong, I think the art looks amazing. It also has a ton of application into other arts. My regret is the way it's presented in these videos - especially in today's greco roman world of competition (i.e., MMA). It saddens me that I hear kids talk about MMA as if that is an art unto itself (and perhaps it is). I have a friend who is 4th black in Kenpo, and getting students is difficult. They all want "mma" training.
It is a beautiful and extraordinary art - I have no issue there. But art and effectiveness are two different things. I love American Kenpo - but the sad truth is you won't see the complexity of Kenpo at MMA - you see two guys of whatever style - you instead see various ranges of hand and feet techniques *usually 3 ranges that are various boxing/kickboxing techniques and you'll see submission floor work. I have yet to see anything this pretty in non-rehearsed fighting. How I wish I were wrong
It's as pretty as it is ineffective. And it's very pretty. Could the incoming attacks be any wider and more amateur for the convenience of the Aikido master? Strikes come at opponents like jabs and crosses and variations in between - but only an amateur, a child, or a drunk would just throw a weapon like that -
I stopped practicing aïkido since september, and practice thai boxing since.
But in 9 years of aïkido practice, I had the chance to practice 3 times in a training given by Christian Tissier. And he had said : "come at my trainings, and I'm gonna show you that it is effective".
So you should try and tell us what will have happened :)
@Chad01234 I was in a 3rd kyu ranking when i involved in a car accident few years ago.That guy walked out swearing at me & point a finger right up my face.I used only 2 techniques, that was iriminage & tenchinage.Few of the bystanders stop the fight when i was in the middle of doing tenchinage to him.He got bruises & cut on his face(i do not know how & when he got that), it happens to fast but i'm sure he didn't even touch me!Aikido really works, believe me!I'm going to 2nd dan this year.
@Chad01234 By the way, if u have a chance to watch videos of how men harassing, attacking, grabbing, hugging women, u will see how useful these aikido techniques r. Aikido is a defensive martial art or a combat fight..not a 1 to 1 in a 'ring fight'. It defence itself from a brutally/deadly attack(with knife,sticks or even at gun point) & the intention of the attacker is to hurt u badly or maybe rape or kill u not just to win a 'fighting sports' where everybody will clap their hands if u win!
@espanolporaplicacion THere's a reason you don't see Kenpo/Wing Chun/Ninjuts/Aikido in mixed martial arts. Anyway, sadly, the martial arts is like a religion for many people - i.e., try telling a scientologist he's wrong. If you have had personal positive experiences with x art, and I make common sense statements, then you will either deny the truth, or empty your cup and begin anew. Don't be fooled by this - I suppose you think Capoeira is a martial art as well? To each his own.
@Chad01234 my friend aikido is very effectiveto hooks , jabs , kicks and all kind of attacks.... i try with my sensei always these fake punches and jabs and low kicks , the secret is in your taisabaki and your movement . Once you master your movement , no assailant from any rt can defea you because there is no opponent there , and remember in aikido you train , you don't argue . Once you studey the original art , you will understand how easy to face any assailant will be .
@eliazourosqw I understand why you believe that and I respect the art as an art. But, until you take those techniques and attempt to apply them to someone training in mixed martial arts at a competitive level, i.e., until you see a grandmaster ever step into a bare knuckle competition...you will have zero proof of this being effective in regards to relaying Aikido to the world via a medium such as youtube. Folks watch UFC, Pride, etc these days - you just can't fool the world anymore.
Does Mr. Tissier follow a particular style or did he create his own? It seems a bit different, yet very effective, specially when performing irimi-nage;I really like it.
there is a specific aikido in any practicer.Tissier's aikido is not like segal's aikido.But both follow same principes and tehniques.There are only variations.
Most people give him crap for one of 2 reasons: (1) 'cause he's an actor &, therefore, everything he does is "fake" to them. (2) According to some (I don't know, I've never cared enough to look into it), he somewhat scammed his way into his Japanese dojo... marrying his sensei's daughter in order to work his way in then, abandoning her once he got what he wanted.
lol le cirque, et ca se permet de critiquer seagal. oublions le cote artiste et mettons leurs valeurs d'aikidoka, meme si aucune competition existe, seagal et vachement superieur ca saute aux yeux.
T'oserais faire un irimi de thissier un jour en te defendant? mdr
je pratique depuis prèsque 10 ans, soit suffisament longtemps pour me rendre compte que 10 ans de pratique dans cette discipline, en fait, c'est pas beaucoup...
Paradoxal non ?
Sinon, impossible de dire combien d'années il faut pour arriver à ce niveau. Je m'explique :
Christian Tissier a pratiqué 7 ans au Japon, mais quand il a commencé là bas, il était déjà 2eme dan France.
Or, on peut pratiquer 30 ans en France à raison de 2 ou 3 fois par semaine pour arriver et stagner par exemple au 3eme dan, ou alors passer 7 ans au Hombu Dojo où des cours sont données de 6h30 du matin jusqu'à 20h00 (sauf le dimanche où il n'y a "que" 2 cours) entourré de gens qui visent la perfection. Certains ne vivent même que pour l'aïkido.
Donc ça ne se compte pas en années mais en heures.
Enfin, il est facile (mais inutile) de comparer des pratiquants lamba entre eux.
Mais si ces pratiquants sont des Maîtres qui ont passé les barrières techniques, les différences de niveau deviennent invisibles et les différences de style, évidentes.
Même si Maitre Tissier est super gradé, mon Sensei sera à mes yeux ma référence ! En plus il est au dessus de tout ça... il ne s'interresse pas à ça... être sous le feu des projecteurs...
Je ne connais pas personnellement CT mais je pense qu'il est bien trop humble pour s'ennivrer de toutes ses performances. Son intention est plutôt noble il me semble car il cherche à faire connaitre l'art martial auquel il a dédié sa vie au plus grand nombre. Donc respectons son œuvre et prenons bonnes notes de tout ce qu'on a la chance de voir de lui et ses disciples.
It's also the Tori's throw, if you're Uke and you're being thrown very well and very fast, your ukemi will be perfect automatically. And besides, these guys are pro;)
UFC fighting isnt proof that somethings combat effective.Aikido seems to be a target in the comments section mainly by UFC fans.Legalize small joint manipulations, and find a skilled Aikidoa willing to break O Sensei's anti competition beliefs and everyone of the UFC fellas would be flocking to Aikido schools to learn it like they did BJJ.Aikido would dominate UFC under that hypothetical rule change.No small joint manipulation rules for an Aikidoa is the same as telling a boxer no punching!
aikido223411 2 months ago
Movements are telegraphed, yes, but the reaction time you build, the pins/movements you learn, and techniques, are all very easily applicable in any street fight.
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@eliazourosqw I understand why you believe that and I respect the art as an art. But, until you take those techniques and attempt to apply them to someone training in mixed martial arts at a competitive level, i.e., until you see a grandmaster ever step into a bare knuckle competition...you will have zero proof of this being effective in regards to relaying Aikido to the world via a medium such as youtube. Folks watch UFC, Pride, etc these days - you just can't fool the world anymore.
Chad01234 5 months ago
Does Tissier Sensei have students that teach his style in the United States?
fromanotherstar 6 months ago in playlist Christian Tissier
Yokomenuchi irrminage , yokomenuchi shihonage , superb ....
eliazourosqw 6 months ago
très beau, mais pas du tout efficace en applicatif ce qu'il fait, 0:45 bloquage de l'adversaire, stabilisation, et il repart .. de plus le uke amorce sont attaque.. trop prévisible. Juste bon pour la démonstration.
290600kiwi 7 months ago
Not to appreciate a martial art and to criticize a master is just ignorance. Telegraphed or not... I'm quite certain he can take care of himself with a skilled opponent in a real self defense situation.
Massdojo 8 months ago
bienvenu à kyoto Tissier sensei!!!!! i am very glad!!!!
but on this thursday, Kawahara sensei passed in Victoria Canada,so sad..........合掌
sakura0jp0aikidodesu 9 months ago
this form of martial arts is really beautiful! I don't know a thing about Aikido, or any self defense for that matter...But just watching this gives you an idea of how strong and controlled you have to be just to make a demonstration for this. All of these moves look so graceful, like the students and teachers are dancing! but you can also see the power in which they inflict upon each other, and that would be so painful if that strength was inflicted on yourself! I have respect for this art.
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It's beautiful even with those silly telegraphed hand chops and hip loaded reverse punches - but the physics are wrong - the human body has to be conditioned to respond to those techniques - hence why you'll never see an MMA guy fly around a ring. But - martial arts is like a religious experience for many people. God forbid you point out reality to its followers. But c'est la vie, c'est l'ignorance.
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Seriously, everyone who hates on Aikido or an martial art for that matter. Lets put it in this perspective. Anyone can sit and debat ewhich is better but when it all comes down to an actaul fight
Its about the person, not the art.
CheetaRevised 1 year ago
why does everyone feel the need to hate on other peoples art??? 'oh aikido would be no good against mma blah blah blah jf thats the case who wolud win between an mma fighter and an iaidoka, i have a pretty good idea who. but the point is the martial art is about more than just scrapping.
aikikev 1 year ago
Мастер! идеальные линии, четкость в каждом движении, совершенная техника!
VBSandC 1 year ago
the dude makes it look too easy... at least i'd think so if i didn't know any better... awesome
alexandargabric 1 year ago
very beautiful but so innefective.Who's gonna punch you and leave their arms like that for u to grab it.Most people will retract their arm.I'd like to go to an aikido class and see how they train.
frenchguy09 1 year ago
@frenchguy09 The aikido style I train in is more of an aiki jujitsu. however we pratictice traditonal segment of aikido. To make aikido work you need to strike the opponent to be able to do any technique. One other thing you guys fail to look at is when demos are preformed they do so from a traditional stand point. With all the different styles of boxing Mixed martial arts, etc of course the demos look eneffective. But 70 -90 yrs ago when aikido was aiki budo that was how the japanese fight.
sazen9 1 year ago
The point being that you have to adapt aikido to the styles to what you might come across on the streets. Learn thai boxing and learn how to apply aikido techniques to defend against elbows/shin kicks, grapplers and ground fighting etc. Practice gun removeal along with sword removeal. Its good to learn traditonal arts but you need to make it effective and relevent. Just because the demos are staged doesnt mean you can rule it out as an eneffective art.
sazen9 1 year ago
@sazen9 I've watched serbian aikido somewhere on youtube i forgot the name of the school .That looked very effective to me in certain situations but not this video.
frenchguy09 1 year ago
@frenchguy09 Tissier is traditonal aikikai. They are very strict on keeping everyting the same way O sensei created it and keeping in line with the philosophy of takemus aiki. I for one am a ferm believer that you must learn as many different arts as you can to better understand the art you use. Then you can find what works what does not and so on. Demos are just there to promote the awarness of the martial arts not their effectiveness
sazen9 1 year ago
man I wanna see a demo that has the practical uses of aikido not this we'll aim exactly where u want and react like idiots.
Lyunatis 1 year ago
At 4:07 he fumbles the technique and uke still takes the fall, other than that nice demo.
spoffdarko 1 year ago
Well I will say that I have no doubt that a master will tear apart a guy like me or any other amateur. However, for me, I suppose when I attempt to rationalize the value of the art - I try to place the "masters" of any art in the ring with today's mixed martial arts practitioners. For example, Fedor Emelienko, Mirko Cro Cop, Brock Lesnar, etc., I would humbly love to see if Aikido would work at all against their level of skill or as Bas Ruuten stated simply, no.
Chad01234 1 year ago
beautifull, very fluid..
reefric 1 year ago
Super!!!!
kerll 1 year ago
For that people who think Aikido is not effective: Aikido is the way of love, the Art of peace, Has been thinked for not hurt anybody. The tecnique is directly related to attack. One must look for purity of mouvement as well, specially in show. In the street is the same, one must "dissuade" an aggressor without hurting too much, in order to make him thinking about his behaviour; maybe is not so elegant but effective and painful, belive me, better not try "street Aikido". (excuse my English)
kototamabushi 1 year ago
@kototamabushi ah voila un pratiquant à ce que je vois :) C'est dommage que beaucoup de gens ne comprennent pas l'aikido :( UFC ils ont que ca à la bouche et pensent que c'est comme du combat de rue lol
Bonne soirée
typhus0007 1 year ago
@typhus0007 "Merci" for share my thinking! Keep following the "Way" with joy and curiosity!!!! ;-))
All the best!
p.s. Don't warry if something is difficoult to comprend, included the other people thinking, is difficoult for me too and I started at 17 and now I am 51 !!
kototamabushi 1 year ago
l'Aïkido c'est vremant nul, j'en ai fais pendant 1mois, je trouve que c'est inutile vous avec déjà vus des combats ou le mec va te donné un coup a 2mètre avec le bras déjà tendu ? NON !
Dans un combat c'est " Coups de poing sans prévenir dans la face, je t'attrape par la gorge coup de boule, je te met a terre et je t'enchaine" Faut etre réaliste se genre de combat tu vois ça que dans les films.
La seul chose bien ce sont les prises de finition.
Obsyde 1 year ago
@Obsyde mdr en 1 mois d'aikido t'as compris tout ca toi? Mon loulou, laisse moi te dire que tu n'as rien compris aux "arts martiaux". Moi je fais des arts martiaux (judo, jiu-jitsu, muay thai). J'ai commencé à 5 ans et en ai 24 mnt. Je pratique l'aikido depuis mnt 3 ans et demi. Et je px t'assurer que l'aikido est vraiment efficace. Mais c'est un art martial très développé et compliqué demandant de nombreuses années de pratique. Alors ne parle pas de l'aikido en aillant fait 1 mois...
typhus0007 1 year ago
@typhus0007 Bin écoute tu m'appels le jour ou tu veras un gas qui fais de L'aikido battre un gas qui pratique dans UFC ( un sport qui montre vremant l'aspect brut d'un combat).
Je te donne un exemple mon ami qui fait depuit 10ans de judo n'a même pas osé déffendre un autre copain ou il etait deux contre lui.
Question 10ans de judo qui te serve a quoi ? a rien....
Aprés tu parles du muay thai la je veux bien l'avoué que se sport ( completement différent de l'aikido en passent) et + Dur
Obsyde 1 year ago
@Obsyde t'as raison , vaut mieux apprendre le kickboxing au lieu de l'aikido.Dans la rue , il n'ya personne qui se bagarre comme sa , en laissant leur bras en l'air pour que l'advesaire l'attrape.Dans un combat de rue les coups s'enchainent.
frenchguy09 1 year ago
Very nice of Tissier Sensei to allow time for uke's to demo...well deserved.
Karbouchard 1 year ago
In spite of these guys wouldn't behave like this in real one should be afraid of accidentally living hand unattended fighting them.
benrodrigezz 1 year ago
i dont see any anti-kick moves ... im not sure if this would work in a real combat.
Zhensa 1 year ago
just zap through tissiers demos - im sure u find some anti kick moves
and ffs what is a real combat?
TSGJaws 1 year ago
@TSGJaws well, if someone really want to physically hurt you and even with knifes or some sort of club. i just heared that it is not a very practical martial art.
Zhensa 1 year ago
I just always think: If someone really wants to hurt you, he'll give you the bottle from the back and no martial art will help you with that.
in the usual "real" fights that start like "hey, who're you looking at, bastard?" aikido did a good job so far.
Imo Aikido is good training against Knive/Club situations. Its got its roots in sword fighting and it trains to evade instead of block. But even though we actually do knive/club defense in dojo, i'd probably try to avoid the situation irl.
TSGJaws 1 year ago
J'ai fait un stage ce matin avec lui C'etait super intéressant !! A refaire !!
romain3003 2 years ago 2
@romain3003 J'en ai fait 3 avant d'arrêter l'aïkido et à chaque fois j'ai été impressionné autant par sa technique que par sa pédagogie. En + il est très accessible (n'a pas du tout la grosse tête) et sait se mettre au niveau de n'importe qui ;)
myristique 1 year ago 3
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spoffdarko 1 year ago
please excuse my interference.
have you ever thought of martial arts being more than comparing muscles, speed and reflexes, more than fighting? miyamoto musashi is the best example: at first he was (had) a weapon. a fierce one. so he always had to fight and barely had peace. there's always one who thinks to be the bigger fish. the key was not to fight (kill) even if it seemed inevitable. eventually, he longed for peace not victory, exchanged his swords for a bokken and remained the best of all.
RedSkin8008 2 years ago
boring?
LuffyMugiw4r4 2 years ago
Bas Rutten: Aikido in MMA
Youtube that - he pretty much sums it up. Like I said - please folks - do not defend your art with "we can't eye gouge in mma" as being why we don't see Kenpo, Ninjutsu, Wing Chun, Shaolin Kungfu, etc....in the octagon. At least attempt a more viable defense - otherwise I'm going to assume Kenpo, Wing Chun, Shaolin Kungfu AND Aikido are just gouging styles...but lo and behold this video has ZERO eye gouging. I want 1 video of Aikido in mma - please.
Chad01234 2 years ago
There have been Aikidoka that entered and did not fare well in MMA. Then again neither did other non-ground styles. As far as a definitive video there is one of a guy against an MMA fighter. If you still itch for a video, then it's best you go make one for the rest of us, since you obviously need to prove something. Aikido philosophy is the very antithesis of MMA fighting. It's goal is of nonviolent resolution to conflict for the average individual. Not everyone is an MMA fighter.
MikeUntstinks 2 years ago
Not every response calls for punching, kicking, armbarring, etc someone in a self-defense situation. That's the MMA mentality. It's wasted movement and impractical and many ppl do not agree to such violent responses. Do you really need to do all that just to break out of a grab? No. Sometimes, merely reversing the grip into a wrist lock and breaking out of it is enough to get the job done. Simple and efficient and no one gets hurt.
MikeUntstinks 2 years ago
I do agree with the efficiency of Aikido. I wish to dabble in it later in my martial arts career in a dojo. From what I have acquired from it already, though, is angles of attack or defense. I'm a grappler and a Mixed Martial Artist, and I study anything and everything that will make a person submit. I find that suprising wrist locks have gotten me the most wins and that's all from learning aikido basics.
kennjay79 2 years ago
Thank you. The principles of aiki can be applied in MMA. Many times you will see guys tied in a clinch. Rarely do you see any sort of aiki being exercised in that range. Wrist locks are overlooked in grappling. If you can snag a wrist you have a chance of reversing out of a bad position. The bottom line is this: treat your mind as you would a sponge, let it soak everything up and leave nothing to chance. The more you know, the better your edge.
MikeUntstinks 2 years ago
@kennjay79 Cross training is and excellent idea. The more I do the more I realise aikido is very effective. A lot of the training is about timing, body position, balance etc. For sure, to be a complete martial artist takes many disciplines. Fighting is another story - no holds, life and death....what system fully prepares you for it. There is no training scenario that can prepare for the real deal....train principles, train the fighter, train the mind and then...trust the skill
Karbouchard 1 year ago
Aikido would suck in MMA, cause:
In MMA: u have the aim to attack and defeat your opponent. In Aikido u dont have to do that.
In MMA: Avoiding = Penalty. Joint manipulation = Penalty. Aikido mainly consists of avoiding and joint manipulation (no eyegouge btw)
Applying Aikido in MMA would be somehow as usefull as applying MMA in fencing.
Fencing and MMA are competetive sports with a referee. Aikido is not.
+ about the evaluation of "efficiency": The "real fight" also is no competetive sport.
TSGJaws 1 year ago
@justryingtoimrpove
With all respect - the Kenpo Karate guys make the same defense. What you are in fact doing by defending Aikido in that way - is you are saying it is limited to those techniques..i.e., only to illegal techniques. My point is that I have yet to see an Aikido master throw ANYONE around the mat like the telegraphed and obviously orchestrated techniques the art demonstrates as its trademark.
Chad01234 2 years ago
que calidad la del uke por Dios!
themrgamabunta1 2 years ago
@Mike
I will humbly have to state that there is a reason why you don't see quite a few "arts" in the UFC or otherwise. The problem as Bas Rutten stated in regards to Aikido is there is a difference between an art and a martial art in regards to what is effective. However, could you please clarify my own naivity and direct me to some video that shows an open combat event or actual unpredictable attacks being used in a demonstration? I cannot find even one. Thank you mate /salute
Chad01234 2 years ago
@Chad01234 uhhh this is my two cents worth of a thought. The reason aikido/hapkido/pretty much anything tradtional doesn't work in mma is because a lot of things are illegal in mma. for exmp eye gouging, crouch shots, fishhooking, and most importantly small joint manipulation. Legalize this and you have an illegal sport that can infact cause death. In a real life situation i'd rather have tissier backing me up rather than fedor or shogun rua. hey.. machida proved an art can be a sport
justtryingtoimprove 2 years ago
Effective martial arts needs to be built around defense and offense that involves retracting, none telegraphed techniques. Weapon and empty hand techniques should be built around defending against an advanced attacker who uses speed and precision in their attacks. Using and identifying fakes and feints are as well integral in training. Even a mediocre street fighter can train to fake a straight thrust to the face and then retract and re-thrust a fully dedicated lethal strike elsewhere.
Chad01234 2 years ago
I think you are mistaken. A well trained Aikido isn't simply going to sit there and be fooled by fakes and feints. Aikidokas maintain what's called ma-ai or harmonious distance from you. This is the distance where he is just beyond your reach. You can fake and feint all day but there will be some point where you end up committing to an attack and that is their point of entry. Likewise, an Aikidoka can take the initiative and strike you first, parry or rush into you drawing a response.
MikeUntstinks 2 years ago 2
My final point is (and Aikido is not the only system that is guilty of this) in demonstrations - moves are telegraphed. That's how a demo works and I understand that. But as a neophyte student walking off the street - I would want to be educated correctly by hands on application. This is why floor systems are so effective - they get to practice at 100% (other than outright strikes and breaks). Martial arts needs to be built around defense that involves retracting, none telegraphed techniques
Chad01234 2 years ago
It's true that demonstration's techniques are choosen and defined before the demo takes place. I have participated in several demonstrations with my club. Though, good demonstrations are anyway dificult to apply. And most of the time, in a demo, there is always 1 or 2 techniques you make but which were not decided to be made, because when the attack happens, sometimes it's better to do another technique than the one we wanted to do (i don't know if i'm clear)
Meanwhile, I tend to agree with you.
myristique 2 years ago
@myristique This doesn't take away that Aikido is effective. As long as you train hard and do your best to make it become a second nature, you will manage to defend yourself on the street using Aikido. Agree?
FearThisChannel 5 months ago
@Chad01234 Aikido is a martial art of self defense.What u learn in dojo is a variations of this art.U might not use everthing that u learned on the street.Few of this basic techniques r very useful but to master & understand it u need to learn variations of techniques(with patience) in this art & it takes 4-5 years to really used it on the street when it is needed.Whatever negative comments about it, i'm sure aikidoka will learn these:1)caution 2)distance 3)reflex 4)speed 5)stability & 6)timing.
syimang 1 year ago
@Chad01234 - you can't learn to ride a bike at a seminar........... real time randori and real time training are the only effective ways of practicing technique
jammin1881 1 year ago
@Chad01234 A demo is just a demo. Demos are made to look nice and spectacular because they are for the audience not the Martial artist. You have to look at the style of training to understand how well you'll be educated when you walk onto the street.
CheetaRevised 1 year ago
@Chad01234 Each technique in Aikido is a "story", means it has a story built in by a series of if-then condition througt Uke and Tori interaction. Techniques are not applicable at all, as you see. These serve only to educate the movement, which is why are just called "Techniques" and not combats.
istilius 11 months ago 2
@istilius I can appreciate that reply. It makes sense from what I have seen. So you are saying there is a level of spiritualism involved in the movements? Sort of a move this way and connect to Zen sort of thing? Or am I off base?
Chad01234 11 months ago
@Chad01234 ... may be, however, rather than spiritual I would say something as didactic or training.
istilius 11 months ago
@Chad01234 You are right. You should consult the philosophy of Ueshiba O Sensei to read more about this. Aikido is based around the concept of universal harmony. It was developed to attain self-perfection and to become one with the universe. None of aikido's moves are in contradiction with nature. I run short words to fully explain this and leave a stainless definition, so it's better for you to google it.
FearThisChannel 9 months ago
@istilius Indeed. Those who say that the techniques are ineffective clearly haven't studied it too well. Aikido teaches that improvisation is the best form of self-defense. But in order to improvise, one has to learn the principles. These principles are taught by means of techniques.
It is stupid to think that each attack is answered by a particular technique.
FearThisChannel 9 months ago
@Chad01234 remember it's a demonstration, people in the audience can be very far. That's why techniques are emphasized to make them visible by everybody.
thejohnou 1 month ago
@thejohnou I am sorry you actually believe that. Youtube aikido practices in a small dojo or between two people on a close up video. It's the same telegraphed ballet every time. You will NEVER see one Aikido man retract his strikes and force his opponent to have to predict technique - like I said, it's art, nothing more, nothing less. You will never see it in mixed martial arts or ONE video of this in a real fight. Unfortunately!
Chad01234 1 month ago
@Chad01234 "You will NEVER see one Aikido man retract his strikes and force his opponent to have to predict technique"
Well, I'm sorry but I practice this way at every aikido class, for example by doing jiu waza. Many uke don't attack sincerly, and that's a real caveat. But don't give up! Investment in aikido will pay, sooner or later.
thejohnou 1 month ago
@thejohnou Don't get me wrong, I think the art looks amazing. It also has a ton of application into other arts. My regret is the way it's presented in these videos - especially in today's greco roman world of competition (i.e., MMA). It saddens me that I hear kids talk about MMA as if that is an art unto itself (and perhaps it is). I have a friend who is 4th black in Kenpo, and getting students is difficult. They all want "mma" training.
Chad01234 1 month ago
It is a beautiful and extraordinary art - I have no issue there. But art and effectiveness are two different things. I love American Kenpo - but the sad truth is you won't see the complexity of Kenpo at MMA - you see two guys of whatever style - you instead see various ranges of hand and feet techniques *usually 3 ranges that are various boxing/kickboxing techniques and you'll see submission floor work. I have yet to see anything this pretty in non-rehearsed fighting. How I wish I were wrong
Chad01234 2 years ago
It's as pretty as it is ineffective. And it's very pretty. Could the incoming attacks be any wider and more amateur for the convenience of the Aikido master? Strikes come at opponents like jabs and crosses and variations in between - but only an amateur, a child, or a drunk would just throw a weapon like that -
Chad01234 2 years ago
I partially agree with you.
I stopped practicing aïkido since september, and practice thai boxing since.
But in 9 years of aïkido practice, I had the chance to practice 3 times in a training given by Christian Tissier. And he had said : "come at my trainings, and I'm gonna show you that it is effective".
So you should try and tell us what will have happened :)
(excuse my english if it's not correct...)
myristique 2 years ago
@Chad01234 I was in a 3rd kyu ranking when i involved in a car accident few years ago.That guy walked out swearing at me & point a finger right up my face.I used only 2 techniques, that was iriminage & tenchinage.Few of the bystanders stop the fight when i was in the middle of doing tenchinage to him.He got bruises & cut on his face(i do not know how & when he got that), it happens to fast but i'm sure he didn't even touch me!Aikido really works, believe me!I'm going to 2nd dan this year.
syimang 1 year ago
@Chad01234 By the way, if u have a chance to watch videos of how men harassing, attacking, grabbing, hugging women, u will see how useful these aikido techniques r. Aikido is a defensive martial art or a combat fight..not a 1 to 1 in a 'ring fight'. It defence itself from a brutally/deadly attack(with knife,sticks or even at gun point) & the intention of the attacker is to hurt u badly or maybe rape or kill u not just to win a 'fighting sports' where everybody will clap their hands if u win!
syimang 1 year ago
@Chad01234 With respect, who can you be so depressingly simplistic in your understanding? If you think this is in ineffective you are an idiot.
espanolporaplicacion 1 year ago
@espanolporaplicacion THere's a reason you don't see Kenpo/Wing Chun/Ninjuts/Aikido in mixed martial arts. Anyway, sadly, the martial arts is like a religion for many people - i.e., try telling a scientologist he's wrong. If you have had personal positive experiences with x art, and I make common sense statements, then you will either deny the truth, or empty your cup and begin anew. Don't be fooled by this - I suppose you think Capoeira is a martial art as well? To each his own.
Chad01234 1 year ago
@Chad01234 my friend aikido is very effectiveto hooks , jabs , kicks and all kind of attacks.... i try with my sensei always these fake punches and jabs and low kicks , the secret is in your taisabaki and your movement . Once you master your movement , no assailant from any rt can defea you because there is no opponent there , and remember in aikido you train , you don't argue . Once you studey the original art , you will understand how easy to face any assailant will be .
eliazourosqw 5 months ago
@eliazourosqw I understand why you believe that and I respect the art as an art. But, until you take those techniques and attempt to apply them to someone training in mixed martial arts at a competitive level, i.e., until you see a grandmaster ever step into a bare knuckle competition...you will have zero proof of this being effective in regards to relaying Aikido to the world via a medium such as youtube. Folks watch UFC, Pride, etc these days - you just can't fool the world anymore.
Chad01234 5 months ago
Je me demande qu'elle est le nom de cette musique si douce ?
GOEURYYOANN 2 years ago
I like his style! Light movement! Awesome!!!
MrGadni 2 years ago
SUPERBE!!! BRAVO!!!
rustik13 2 years ago
Does Mr. Tissier follow a particular style or did he create his own? It seems a bit different, yet very effective, specially when performing irimi-nage;I really like it.
He's quite an splendid Aikidoka!
gowdaflow 2 years ago 2
there is a specific aikido in any practicer.Tissier's aikido is not like segal's aikido.But both follow same principes and tehniques.There are only variations.
Dark3Rupy 2 years ago
love how he shows the students under him in this one. they all are trained well
MrPinoy91 2 years ago
wow, i guess that's why he's 7th dan. I couldn't possibly dream of ever being that good
garyfox89 2 years ago
Why do so many people come down on seagal its not like he went out and bought his black belts.
SuperBob909 2 years ago
No, he definitely earned his belt.
Most people give him crap for one of 2 reasons: (1) 'cause he's an actor &, therefore, everything he does is "fake" to them. (2) According to some (I don't know, I've never cared enough to look into it), he somewhat scammed his way into his Japanese dojo... marrying his sensei's daughter in order to work his way in then, abandoning her once he got what he wanted.
btocp 2 years ago
it would be neat if someone adapted aikido to mma like machida did with shotokan or parisyan with judo
upashurpa 2 years ago
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acquiesce100 2 years ago
Jsi primitnivní čůrák, který rozumí bojovýmu umění asi jako náš školník v práci.
djshodushi 2 years ago
Steven Seagal - The Greatest!
acquiesce100 2 years ago
i'm a student of kobayashi ryu but thi is a grat demostration and great teacher! poor uke!
danfusavig 2 years ago
4min 08 son uke tombe deja alors qu'il ne lui a meme pas saisi le bras...
piemm88 2 years ago
Si, de la main gauche.
myristique 2 years ago
lol le cirque, et ca se permet de critiquer seagal. oublions le cote artiste et mettons leurs valeurs d'aikidoka, meme si aucune competition existe, seagal et vachement superieur ca saute aux yeux.
T'oserais faire un irimi de thissier un jour en te defendant? mdr
piemm88 2 years ago
Non, perso je n'oserai pas :
parce que je sais que déjà en club ne j'arrive pas à le reproduire. Mais uniquement pour ça.
myristique 2 years ago
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vahwho 2 years ago
bonjour
tu as l'air de t'y connaitre, tu pratique depuis longtemps, il faut combien d'années pour arriver à ce genre de niveau?
vahwho 2 years ago
Bonjour,
je pratique depuis prèsque 10 ans, soit suffisament longtemps pour me rendre compte que 10 ans de pratique dans cette discipline, en fait, c'est pas beaucoup...
Paradoxal non ?
Sinon, impossible de dire combien d'années il faut pour arriver à ce niveau. Je m'explique :
myristique 2 years ago
Christian Tissier a pratiqué 7 ans au Japon, mais quand il a commencé là bas, il était déjà 2eme dan France.
Or, on peut pratiquer 30 ans en France à raison de 2 ou 3 fois par semaine pour arriver et stagner par exemple au 3eme dan, ou alors passer 7 ans au Hombu Dojo où des cours sont données de 6h30 du matin jusqu'à 20h00 (sauf le dimanche où il n'y a "que" 2 cours) entourré de gens qui visent la perfection. Certains ne vivent même que pour l'aïkido.
myristique 2 years ago
Donc ça ne se compte pas en années mais en heures.
Enfin, il est facile (mais inutile) de comparer des pratiquants lamba entre eux.
Mais si ces pratiquants sont des Maîtres qui ont passé les barrières techniques, les différences de niveau deviennent invisibles et les différences de style, évidentes.
myristique 2 years ago
Oui si tu veux passer un petit coup de balai au pasage... lol
Didiekong 2 years ago
Ca ne répond pas à ma question tout ça :)
myristique 2 years ago
amazing harmony!!
fromanotherstar 3 years ago
5:02 looks great.
We dont have that one in Aikibudo
Kuritzu 3 years ago
He"s great!
Aryomaru 3 years ago
BRAVO!!!
Ganjeez 3 years ago
allthough i study the art of wing chun, i must say i admire the flow and technice of aikido much impressive
yipman30 3 years ago 2
notre sensei tissier mon sensei a fé un stage avec lui dc g u l honneur d etre enseigné par un bon sensei et je le regrette !
tinoxino 3 years ago
C'est mieux à voir en vrai...
Même si Maitre Tissier est super gradé, mon Sensei sera à mes yeux ma référence ! En plus il est au dessus de tout ça... il ne s'interresse pas à ça... être sous le feu des projecteurs...
Didiekong 3 years ago
Comment s'appelle-t'il ?
myristique 2 years ago
Je ne connais pas personnellement CT mais je pense qu'il est bien trop humble pour s'ennivrer de toutes ses performances. Son intention est plutôt noble il me semble car il cherche à faire connaitre l'art martial auquel il a dédié sa vie au plus grand nombre. Donc respectons son œuvre et prenons bonnes notes de tout ce qu'on a la chance de voir de lui et ses disciples.
goa103 2 years ago
La 1ere fois que je l'ai vu c'était à la télé (Bercy 1998).
La démonstration est spectaculaire, on dirait une star médiatique.
Depuis, j'ai fait 3 stages avec lui.
Il s'occupe de tout le monde, même plusieurs fois, et pas en coup de vent.
Il n'a pas du tout la grosse tête.
Il dégage une simplicité humaine qui contraste énormément avec son niveau.
myristique 2 years ago
heureusement que t as pas le banner en face
tdebeauvais 3 years ago
Ya déjà eu Christophe Pinna en face.
myristique 3 years ago
et lave le le banner!!!!
akakifrance 3 years ago
superb
colmtrim 3 years ago
I thin there's not a good tori that is a bad uke.
EkainMateos 3 years ago
incroyable... O.O
RuggiCors0H 3 years ago
As uke you learn to flow with the technique until it is just there.A good uke should become a good Tori?
sherman4970 3 years ago
Tissier est un très bon maitre, mais P. Gouttard c'èst le meilleur!
SionTor 3 years ago 2
Wow!!!!
Shodan9168 3 years ago
their ukemi can never stop to amaze me.... how he trained them till like that??!?!?!?!
night02machine 3 years ago
It's also the Tori's throw, if you're Uke and you're being thrown very well and very fast, your ukemi will be perfect automatically. And besides, these guys are pro;)
fryskhanne 3 years ago
merci pour la video ;)
tiroux59 3 years ago
tissier tjrs le meilleur dans sa categorie, bravo l'aikido
themajordu91 3 years ago
Il est incroyable ce Christian Tissier! Bravo!
nuage7777 3 years ago
ces eleves sont aussi tres bien,ils ont bien suivi les enseignements du shihan tissier.super les mecs!
aikikavs 3 years ago
very nice demo !
patatrac29 3 years ago