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  • Let me ask everyone out there. Would classical conservatives like Russel Kirl, Murray Rothbard, and Richard Weaver worry about "Islamofacism?" I don't think so.

  • Southern Avenger has a very intelligent point of view and speaks it clearly.

  • Michael Savage was the first to coin the term and the check pants republicans stole it.

  • Ya, your probably right. The book, that is eternally inscribed in the heavens and was communicated to the 7th century merchant and general verbatim, that declares that all non-believers must be occupied, governed by Muslims or killed if they are not people of the book probably wasn't the main inspiration.

    It is that the US has (wickedly) done everything in its power to control the oil resources (taking over from Britain) to prevent them from falling into Nazi, Communist or Islamist hands.

  • I am English . my family have live here for at least a thousand years. it is the struggle of my ancestors and others like them over the past thousands years that has given us the country we have now .this is not to be given to anyone who wants a piece of it . stay where you are and struggle for the country you want and maybe in a thousand years or so you might get it . dont for one minute think you can enjoy what we have worked so hard to achieve .

  • fundimentalist are not islamofasist at all. They are left wing religeous, anticorperation and do not belive their arabs are supperior. They simply want everyone to be devout muslims. Unfortunatly with US surported dictators they cant acheive their goal peacefully.

  • Ironically by having a unique and very intelligent point of view and speaking it clearly, the Southern Avenger is killing any future chance he may have at running for an office.

    I'm not saying he intends to run for an office, I'm just saying IF he did he kills his chances by have unconventional views even if they are intelligent and factually supported.

  • The word islamofascism is wrong and right in some ways. Wrong if you want to describe the atrocitys of german, italien or spanish fascism. right if you wanne point on something special in the ideology called islam.

    is it racist?

    no .. cause mohammed didnt know races .. well, he didnt know much at all

    is it antisemitic?

    yes. long before hitlers murderers let jews dig their own graves before killing them, muhammed had this idea .. and used it.

  • is it imperialistic?

    hell, yes it is! Take a look on the historical maps, It yonquers country after country for more then 1300 years.

    does it oppress opponents as well as dissidents ? yes. and it uses the same methods as hitler used against his former friends in the SA (Ernst Röhm - Night of the Long Knives)

    Does it use propaganda and propaganda lies?

    Another Yes.

    Yes we can talk about islamofascism. but we should be carefull in using it

  • uh what the fek?

    since when was Mohammad pbuh an anti semite?

  • Sice his massacre in the tribe of the Banu Qurayza. You can be proud, your so called prophet was the first who invented the idea to let jews shovel their own graves. it needed anotehr 1600 years till the nazis reinvented this method. but in distinction from hitler ... mohammed slaughterd the jews himself. or do you want to tell me that Surah 33, Verses 22 to 27 are complete lies? and there are dozends other occasions wher mihhamed shows his antisemetism in the quran

  • wtf, massacre? dude, you have one twisted view of history (typical evangelical propaganda).

    Mohammad pbuh did not initiate the "massacre", it was initiated by a subordinate by the name of Saad bin Muadh.

    Secondly, only the male prisoners of war were executed, who did not repent for their animosity and intent to mame and kill Muslims.

    Though most of the tribe of Banu Qurayza agreed to leave Muslims alone, some of it decided to side with the Quraysh and wage war on Muslims.

  • Don´t talk with this Kufar brother. They are all haram. Your prayers will loose their worth if you do. Our day will come and Allah will give us victory. Then our swords will bath in infedel blood.

  • Don't think like that, you will lower yourself to his level. Give people the benefit of the doubt, because they can learn.

    It isn't his fault that he has been blinded by falsifications and propaganda. Many people all over the world are guilty of this, not just him or kuffirs.

    The best way to win is to educate and find understanding not just for them but for ourselves as well.

    His heart is full of hate, but that does not mean he is impossible, and definitely not all who are blind to truth.Peace

  • Muslims were being attacked and harassed because of their new faith. The Quraysh did not like them because of they would lose the Kabaah to a Muslim majority (this is where they generated majority profit) and the jews feared Mohammad because they wanted a prophet from their ranks, not Arab ranks.

    Banu Qurayza started the mess, they paid for it.

    And they (the men, not women or children who were left to live) did not dig their own graves, kid. nice fabrication.

  • The woman and children were left free? ... woman were raped ( and as woman count female chidlren like Aisha = 9 years) and the all were sold as slaves. and what was their crime ? they didnt want do submit under a man who personally killed his opponents .. who robbed caravans and waged wars of aggression. you maybe can dance on the top of a needle but you cant change the words in your bloodbook .. it not a only a book .. its the diary of a criminal, and history is the tribunal

  • And the Quran isn't a diary nor a set of accounts of Mohammad pbuh's life... you clearly have no clue what you're talking about, because even your insults don't make sense haha.

    at least show me some wit, kid

  • you are right .. it isnt a diary .. if it would be, it maybe would have some value. But this camelthief was a illiterate. Not cause there was no possibility to learn reading and writing, a lot of his brigandish tribe managed to read and write. He just was a violent and lazy dumbass who prefered to waste his times with murder, rape, looting, enslaving and child molesting. you are right .. it isnt a diary ... it is a fairytale. written long after he was dead and rotten

  • He wasn't violent by nature, nor was he a rapist, guy! And he was not lazy. He worked when he had his job, and he worshiped when he had found his faith.

    And yeah, he could not read, so what? That just emphasizes how much of a miracle such a piece like the Quran is. And he practiced in the art of recital and oral poetry over reading, this is how he was trained and raised.

    The Quran had been written down during his life, but they were in fragments spread across bones and leaves.

  • And he wasn't a child molestor, the hell is wrong with you. Different societal standards back then.

    Look up what a pedophile is. It is a person who is self conscious, has no self esteem and is afraid to interact with those his or her own age.

    And this is no fairy tale, because this is not a story, and fairy tales do not have scientific relevance, my friend ;).

  • Marriing a 6 year old child .. against her will, by coercion of the father who long time refused .. and FUCKING her when she is NINE isnt a different sight of social standard, even in that time it was all common all over arab to marry no woman under 13 ! and a child molester not necessarily has to be self conscious. most psychopaths like this kind of oppression to act out their instinct. which age they finaly molest doesent interest them as long as the can suppress somebody

  • and if you have read my description. i am not only historian and political scietist ... i also work as Custodian with mentaly disabled persons.  i know people like your mohammad.

  • pedophiles aren't mentally disabled. they're just disturbed and fucked up. wow, did affirmative action nail you your job or what!

  • if you're an intellectual as you claim you are, please act like one and be civil.

    i really am not taking you seriously in general, and won't take you seriously as a "historian" or "political scientist". Maybe as a custodian ;)

    But you are not helping yourself, you're coming off as a buffoon, right warrior monkey, and a thick headed ingrate. 

    Ill give you the benefit of the doubt, however.

  • and your evidence that it was against her will? how was it coercion? do you know what coercion means? do you understand that aisha was already promised to someone else? are you this dull minded?

    Mohammad had no history of being molested himself. Why would he want to suppress another girl, especiall an Arab and devout Muslim? Makes no sense, especially when Mohammad had power given to him by enthused followers who were increasing in number. you make absolutely no sense, there is no comparison...

  • and also;

    Mohammad had married Aisha through recommendation and her father agreed. There was consent, and it was common amongst all those involved.Mohammad's main reason for marrying the girl was for him to gain stronger ties w/ Abu Bakr,not so he could molest children(God forbid such a thing).& evidence of him having sex w/ her at 9? records say that he justlet her play w/ dolls and he watched.

    Please, throw more twisted history at me for correction. I'm glad to do the reconversion for you.

  • the isi also funded 9/11.

  • mossad sounds savvy enough to pull something like 9/11 off and get away with it.

    after all, we are israel's bitch.

  • if the Russians invaded us, and our citizens would resist them at any cost, I guess that would make us Americano-fascists.

  • Friend, I'm not deceived at all. Yes, SSA should be called Socialist Security Admin. but then people would go, SOCIALISM?! I can tell you I've done my homework; witness my comment Tho we've been a quasi-socialist or socialist gov't for a while now. It all started with FDR. And it's "WOULDN'T" <-- as in "wouldn't know it if it fell on YOUR head." ;) PS The most dangerous thing/word in America that all current & past politicians run from after they're sworn in is THE CONSTITUTION!

  • The most dangerous words in America aren't Islamo-fascist, or even terrorist. No, the most dangerous words in America today under the Neo-con Bushiite fascists are FREEDOM, PATRIOT, HABEAS CORPUS. But the MOST DANGEROUS

    words in America these days is RON PAUL! They are so afraid of his name it gets hardly mentioned on the MSM; especially Fox News - totally UNfair & UNbalanced. It's called censorship. Okay, back to my music; I'm listening to the Beach Boys: Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran.

  • The poster reads 28,957 civilian deaths in Iraq & Afghanistan. As of when? The TOTAL is now over 1.1 MILLION deaths, as reported. Do you mean to tell us ONLY 29,000 are civilian? The 1.097 were insurgent enemy combatants? That's a LIE! Sorry but the words "incorrect"

    or "inaccurate" weren't strong enough. Look at some of the videos on here and see if that jibes. That might be the propaganda, again; definitely NOT the facts!

  • I think the term "Islamofascist" indicates a misunderstanding of how complex Islam is, a point southernavenger makes well. And the people we commonly dub extremists in Europe/the U.S. may also define guys like Musharraf as extremists for following the West too slavishly...

  • Musharaff is a DICTATOR (who overthrew a democratically elected gov't) who's helping us make the Middle East safe for DEMOCRACY?! WTF

  • yall dont know where  or who the enemy is. Look in the mirror.

  • You're an islamofascist apologist piece of shit.

  • Why? Be more constructive with your feedback, please.

  • i take it your an avid listener to the sean hannity show right?

  • Combing fascism with Islam is nonsense; A islamist is a theocrate someone who wants to give power to religious leaders. Fascism is about nationalism and power to the heads of state; In theocracies state heads tend to be powerless to religious ones.

  • Good point :)

  • Islamofascism is an international problem. Murder of Theo van Gogh, riots over cartoons, nun killed because the Pope said something, terrorist attacks...

  • And?

  • Islamofascism is a silly word. Only Christian nations have been fascist.

  • right...someone obviously doesn't know their history

  • Lets see, Italy, Germany, Chile, Chili con carne, oh wait, there was the Shhah, no but he was anti-islamic. How about todays Iran is that fascist? No they vote, and I dont believe they have an electoral college. remember 2000? ha ha

  • Japan a Christian nation?

  • Technically, pe-war Japan was Nationalist Shinto-not fascism , But its a good point.

  • Fair enough. However, in application Japan's methods differed little from those of their fascist allies.

  • I dont think the racist apartheid state of America in 1940 was much better. Inceinerating children in Dresden, or Hiroshima, is not much different than a Nazi death camp, just more efficient. We brought the ovens to them, not them to the ovens.

    And thats forgetting what happened after the war, ever hear of the book, "Other Losses", from the Tom Brokaw "greatest generation"?

  • I am not going to defend the indefensible. As a nation, as a matter of national policy the worst the US did was intern the Americans of Japanese descent during WWII. That is a far cry from how the Japanese treated the Koreans and Chinese.

  • so u give them a free pass for dresden and hiroshima-nagasaki, and the death camps in German ("Other Losses")?

  • Dresden? No. Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Definitely. Note: the Bomb was originally developed to be deployed against Germany. You've got me on the "death camps in German" issue, though. I know naught of it.

  • "After World War II, an estimated ten million Germans, both soldiers and citizens, were incarcerated in Allied prison camps. Due to negligence, varying from exposure to starvation, from gunfire to physical abuse, over 1.5 million of these prisoners lost their lives" REVIEW, OTHER LOSSES, BY James Bacque I verified this with a friend whose mother as a child was in one of those camps.

    Disgusting and shameful.

  • Well, there was the whole "werewolf" issue. To be honest, I do not know anything about this issue so I cannot offer anything in response. I do have a couple of questions though. Were these people just standing around idly minding their own business and then they were rounded up for no particularly good reason? I am not a big fan of any government as a general rule, but there had to be something that caused the action to be taken.

  • cHILDREN, WIVES, of people in government. or related some how to some one in government , or sometime sjust ratted out by enviouus people as my friend explained it. settling scores, probably the same now in Iraq.

  • So they may have been Nazis or sympathizers?

  • Yes most families were related no doubt to individuals that were anti US government, anti American occupation, thats why they were put in camps and starved to death or killed.

    History repeats itself.

  • Indeed it does. The US is well on its way to its own version of fascism.

  • The british incenerated dresden ; The U.S did precision bombings while the RAF did carpet bombings

  • Who was Supreme Commader in Europe, Eisenhower? Was that precision in Hiroshima-Nagasaki? Korea-Viet Nam- Cambodia-Afghanistan- Soviet Republics- Chechnya-Azerbaijan-Belgrade..­....

  • SA, you were cool until you went all Center-Left on us. You WERE more Conservative, what happened?

  • SA, did not step back. Everyone else step forward. The fact you think he went "Center-left" indicates like many other people you've been gulping down on Neo-con Kool-aid on whom or what defines today's conservative. To get your political compass back, I recommend pick up a library book on the political history of this country. Behold I send you out as sheep amidst the wolves.

  • Ron Paul 08 end the foreign mess.

  • You are right... We do need to start over again.... here... sooner rather than later.

  • Does anyone else see the use of Islamic people as scapegoats similar to the Nazi use of jews to explain all the problems within the country? The neocons are really sick.

  • Anything that takes a shot at Gay Abe gets my approval!

  • If any other country planted troops on our soil we would fight them militarily.

  • If American interventionism is the predominant cause of Islamist attacks against America, then how come we don't see:

    1. Japanese in large numbers calling for death to America,

    2. Germans in large numbers calling for death to America,

    3. Latin Americans in large numbers calling for death to America, or

    4. Japanese in large numbers calling for death to America?

  • Cont...

    How come instead we see,

    1.  Islamists beheading Indonesian schoolgirls,

    2. Islamists beheading and bombing Thai Buddhists,

    3. Islamists rioting in against Danish cartoonists, and

    4. Islamists bombing committing all kinds of terror against Indians ever since the founding of the modern state of India?

  • Put another way, if American interventionism is the primary cause of hostility against Awerica, why don't we see people other than Islamists who could rationalize a grievance against America calling for attacks on us, instead of seeing Islamist terrorism in countries over issues that have little to do with America?

    I'd like to hear SA's response to that.

  • If any other country planted their troops on our soil, we would fight them militarily.

  • We have no troops in Thailand, and yet Islamists are slaughtering Thais in the southern areas of their country. Care to explain how that's the result of American interventionism? Or how about Beslan, how did our policies force Chechen radicals to slaughter innocent schoolchildren?

  • Oh and one other thing, wilf. Abu Sayaff, the Philippine Al Qaeda, beheaded an American at a time when we had no troops in the Philippines. Furthermore, Jemaah Islamiya, the Indoenesian Al Qaeda, has publicly stated that it will attack Americans if given the opportunity. It has already murdered Australians. Neither country has troops in Indonesia.

    Response?

  • It has to do with the islamic uhmmah; If you attack Muslims in one place you will have to fight all of them everywhere.

  • The Japanese are beating us in a different way. The saying the best revenge is living well. Their economy is striving. Why did we use atomic weapons on them? Because we knew we would loose too many people in a ground invasion.

  • Erroneous and non sequitur. The Japanese aren't living well because they hate us. Rather, they're living well because they *want* to live well. Furthermore, Japanese affluence has nothing to do with radical Islam.

  • Do you think if another country used atomic weapons on us we would ever forget? By the way the Japanese are freindly to us because they have too.If you understand Bushido you will know that this is a stagedy.Thank you for your insightful, self righteous indignation.continued.........­.

  • By that logic, the way to make radical Islamists become friendy with us is to nuke 'em. Of course, if that isn't your logic, then you're just continuing a non sequitur.

    Don't mistake an acknowledgment of history for indignation, wilf. If you want to know the root of terrorism, you only need to look at the realities Islamism in front of you.

  • You are about the dumbest son of a bitch I have ever had the misfortune of conversing with! What was that middle part? Cont.....

  • Your failure to answer with nothing more than an ad hominem response betrays your inability to debate the the issue with a rational mind. Such is a concession to the logic of those who see the threat for what it is.

    Those who see the world for what it is rather than what we'd like to imagine it to be accept your concession.

  • Your a legend in your own mind.

  • lol

  • Sure they remember the a-bomb; But deny the ethnic cleansing and atrocities in china/Korea that japan is guilty of ect... I don't believe that the average Japanese guy is into Bushido nowadays.

  • I would like to go to the White House to shake the presidents hand.

  • Islam Qur'an 4.36-37

    "Be kind to parents, and the near kinsman, and to orphans, and to the needy, and to the neighbor who is of kin,and to the neighbor who is a stranger."

  • The problem with the theory that American intervention is the predominant cause of violence directed against us by radical Islamists is that it ignores a millenium of Islamic imperialism the preceded American global power. Aren't you people aware that the reason why we created a military with global reach in the first place was to protect us against Islamist imperialism two centuries ago?

  • Cont...

    Those people would want to subjugate us with or without a history of American interventionism. To conclude otherwise is to ignore American military history.

  • Which came first the chicken or the egg? You cannot justify what people do in the name of religion. I wasn't aware of Islamic people trying to conquer the world. The majority dont seem motivated for material wealth. What did the Pilgrims(or Americans) do to the Native Americans? Didn't they just take from them? If everyone followed religion closely (ie-do unto others as you would have them do unto you) there would be more peace.

  • Eh? It's the Islamists who justify what they did with their religion, not me. In any event, I think it'd be foolish to try to find an excuse for Islamist imperialism in the wrongs of the Pilgrims, who weren't Americans. (After all, how could they be Americans if the country didn't exist yet?)

  • Cont...

    BTW, Islam does not have a precise equivalent to the Golden Rule that you bring up. And there is no obligation to love all human beings either in Islam. Read the Quran before you presume what it preaches, all I'm sayin'.

  • Islam

    Qur'an 4.36-37

    "Be kind to parents, and the near kinsman, and to orphans, and to the needy, and to the neighbor who is of kin, and to the neighbor who is a stranger."

  • And what I said above stands. If you read that verse before, then I suggest you read it a tad more closely.

  • It's easy for people who live here to be swayed by others who haven't been anywhere. Opinions are just opinions, and this assault is as extreme as the word being assaulted. Rita Katz, a.k.a. the Terrorist Hunter puts it simply enough... Terrorists are Muslims and should be treated as such

  • Rita Katz is a dumb ass.Saying all terrorists are Muslim or visa versa is akin to saying all Negros carry knives. There have been accounts of "Christian" terrorist acts - bombing abortion clinics, Japanese kamikazee etc. To think your right and everyone else is wrong is a very dangerous and norrow minded approach to life.

  • "It is a certain fact that not all Muslims are terrorists, but it is equally certain, and exceptionally painful, that almost all terrorists are Muslims."

    - Abdel Rahman al-Rashed, the general manager of the Al-Arabiya news channel.

  • Perhaps I should have been less specific in stating that ALL Terrorists are Muslims... I stand corrected and thank you for your clarification. MOST are... so I agree with Rita Katz in saying that MOST Muslims should be sent to Allah.

  • Calling people names who are resourced by Homeland Security, the F.B.I. and our own National Security Agency is essentially acknowledging that you know nothing about her or her history. She happens to be the President of S.I.T.E. which reports on terrorist acts worldwide.

  • right on!

  • Another fantastic video by SA! Keep up the good work! :)

  • Some nutcases claim Ron Paul is a bigot, and then later they show how fair-minded they are by using terms like Islamofascists or Islamoterrorists.

    In Iowa I've even heard some GOP candidates stretch this out to Islamoextremefascists and Islamoextremeterrorists.

    What next? Islamosuperextremefascists?

    I have no problem if these nutcases say something like "terrorists who claim to follow Islam".

    But trying to tie the words together as they do is wrong.

  • Problem is that radical Islamists attacked Americans many, many years before there was ever such a thing as "American interventionism". How else do you people explain the Islamist attacks on Americans two centuries ago if you don't acknowledge that Islamism is the predominant cause of attacks on Americans today?

  • Using a word like islamofascism repeatedly and incorrectly to unite people through blind ignorance is indeed a form of fascism. Neofascism.

  • huhm...there's intelligent people in the southern United States...I'll be damned.

  • Don't be silly. Look at what those intelligent northern voters have done to New York, Massachusetts, and Connecticut.  The Founders are rolling in their graves over what's become of "New England". The only exceptions being Vermont and New Hampshire.

    Yep, those 'northerners' are highly intelligent. LOL.

  • The real war, IMO, are the true conservatives standing up to the Neocons and their talking-heads and taking back the movement!!!

    The neoconservatives are destroying the GOP!

  • He sounds like the "Are you smarter than a 5th grader" guy.

  • It's psychological warfare. They did a similar thing with the word "liberal".

  • Excuse me, but this is hypocritical. You stoop to the levels of the people that use the term by calling them "neoconservative". whittling down the ideologies held by a people to support a certain position. LABELS are impossible to avoid in our current political atmosphere. To call out another group for using them while using the same tactics against that group makes you just as "evil".

  • en.wikipedia*org/wiki/Neoconse­rvatism

  • They named themselves "neoconservatives" (Irving Kristol in particular) and it has only become a perjorative because of the results their philosophy has produced. I calls-em like I sees-em.

  • And you sees-em clearly! Good video.

  • This name is self proclaimed. If SA was doing what you claim here then he would have called them neo-fascists. Funny thing is that their ideals are far more fascist than conservative. It is nice how they use words that mean the opposite to describe things. Patriot Act............

  • jeez man, incredible.

  • All I have to say is this... Wow!

    You need to get your radio show on a podcast or something so that we can hear more of you!

  • youtube search Bhutto BBC Osama Bin Laden and watch the unedited video and listen to Bhutto say the man who murdered Osama Bin Laden.

  • AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!

  • the more southerners that go after Fox the better. great post.

  • I finally get it. The "real" fascists are the CIA.

    (Never did like those shady "agent" type characters.)

  • the real fascist are the one using the CIA and throwing out the propaganda. CIA only executed orders.

  • WE NEED RON PAUL!!

  • Possibly without the help of the isolationist right and their brethren the so-called 'peace movement' there will be no waking up from the Islamofascist nightmare. Quit masturbating in fantasyland and get with the program, boys!

  • Clarify what? Don't you understand plain English?

  • If you can't understand a word he said than your hearing needs to be checked.

  • My reply didn't appear under the correct name. Youtube screwed it up. I fully understand and agree. Anyone know how to correct this as it seems to be happening often.

  • Islamofascist. A neologism used to compare the ideological or operational characteristics of certain modern Islamist movements with European fascist movements of the early 20th century.

  • Blah, blah, blah?

  • Good job. the Abe vs Muslim a bit much even if true:)

  • The only candidate who would put an end to this nightmare is RON PAUL.

  • CFR all over this! CIA backed each and every one of these evils. Says allot about secret Oaths and secret societies!

  • I love your videos SA, please keep making them.

  • Well said.  I am afraid that what Americans don't understand about the world will only result in more turmoil for our nation.

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