The intial max elevator that started the problem was compouned by the use of aileron to try and correct the wing stall instead of rudder. Classic novice mistake. You can clearly see the ailerons being maxed out. Using aileron to correct a wing stall is only going to further disrupt the flow of air over the wing. By using rudder instead of aileron, you allow the wing to try and start flying again ... unless of course this model had no rudder.
Now you have contradicted yourself. "High speed stall occurs at nearly supersonic speeds." Then you type "Aerobatic stunts, like snap rolls deliberately use high speed stall to accomplish the desired flight path" Which is it? There is a correlation between speed and stall but the reason a plane stalls is the AOA reached its limit. The majority of you can keep thinking this way thats fine but in order to fly aerobatics you need to understand speed doesn't stall the plane AOA does.
You are talking elementary stalls and I'm talking aerobatic stalls or stalls on RC planes with way more elevator throw/area and the cg aft which will allow higher AOA even at high speeds. Here is one line of wikis definition of stall speed. "Stalls depend only on angle of attack, not airspeed" Everything you said I agree and you even made a great point about the banking but the fact is a plane can be stalled at any speed if a high AOA is achieved.
@rcreviewchanel this dude had airspeed. Watch the angle of the nose and tail. He has airspeed but pulls the nose up... stalls right wing, goes level(nose/tail) *still flying* pulls nose up again and stalls the left wing and crash. Lack of airspeed didn't crash this plane but stalls did happen and were the cause.
@rcreviewchanel What you said to paul30003 is only partially correct. You said "if you stall your going to slow" and that is not the whole story. If you stall either you where going to slow OR you had to high of angle of attack OR you had the plane banked to far. You can stall a plane at an airspeed twice the stall speed with a high angle of attack or steeply banked. The point I was making is that low airspeed is NOT the only factor that causes a stall but you obviously missed the point.
The only way I can visualise a plane flying along at twice its stall speed and yet be at such a high angle of attack that it stalls is that the plane is flying at twice the stall speed at low angle of attack, initially, and the pilot yanks the nose up hard, without increasing power. The speed bleeds off and the wing stalls. A wing stalls any time the airflow over the wing top breaks away from a smooth flow into a turbulent flow. This happens due to too hgih AOA, ....
@shinco52 Speed doesn't have anything to do with it. You can stall a wing out at any speed. I go into snap rolls and out of them all way over the stall speed of the wing, yet the wing get stalled out. There is a thing called high speed stalling.
As far as weekend flyers of full size (in my case, former full size flyer) or rc planes, I still stand by what I said, that stall is really very closely related to speed. High speed stalls is exactly what it says, it occurs at near supersonic speeds, which is not very likely to be what we see in our rc planes or non jet private planes. Aerobatic stunts, like snap rolls, deliberately use high speed stall to accomplish the desired flight path. For majority of us, stall=too low speed
....usually due to flying too slow and yet still trying to maintain altitude, thus putting the wings at higher and higher AOA. A steeply banked plane can fall out of the sky even if the wings are not stalled, due to the vertical component of lift not being equal to a/c weight. BUT, yes, stall speed goes up if the plane weight increases. Why? cos the wings have to give more lift to support the higher weight. A bit hard to go into too detailed explanation due to the limited words I can type here..
@rcreviewchanel I'm sorry but that makes no sense at all. Read what I wrote. A stall is when the wing stops flying whether it be low airspeed, high angle of attack, or steep banking. Airspeed is not the only factor that causes a stall.
i still heard the engine running when it hit not a stall pure operator error damaged the plane on landing and was dumb enough to try and fly it again tried to take off it turned to the right he overcorrected and the plane went splat.
In avaiation a stall means lack of airspeed for lift resulting in firstly unstable flight then simply dropping out of the sky. We are talking about if the engine was running or not.
To much elevator will create drag slowing the plain to a stall speed.
@paul30003 Not exactly, a stall means the wing has stopped flying. Low airspeed, high angle of attack, and steep banking are all causes. I can stall my Edge(model) at any speed with full up elevator, snap roll it and come out of it with almost as much speed as I entered it. Never heard of a high speed stall? My point is airspeed alone will not keep a wing from stalling.
Fair point, yes thinking about how a wing works, not only will low speed cause a stall, but as you say a high angle of attack will prevent that high / low pressure differential on the wing surface that we know as lift. Glad you corrected me on this. Although I would say, I was half right :)
afraid not , this was good old pilot error on marks part ! to much elevator not enough airspeed - result - tip stall then mexican wave then crash ! lol .
Terrible pilot. Total fail.
flightoftheunknown 6 days ago
I hope you went back to a trainer after this.
You weren't ready for a warbird.
duckgeezer 1 week ago
That will buff right out
ohmygoditsnate 2 weeks ago
if i wanna do something more difficult buy a japanese zero lol
nolifemerc 2 weeks ago
it can b a expensive and frustrating hobby lol.
gewizz2 3 weeks ago
stick to a trainer pal.
or consider golf.
duckgeezer 1 month ago
I WOULD NOT WANT THAT TO HAPPING TO MY PLANE!!!!!
glaswegian117 2 months ago
uuuuuuuuuuuu
glaswegian117 2 months ago
The intial max elevator that started the problem was compouned by the use of aileron to try and correct the wing stall instead of rudder. Classic novice mistake. You can clearly see the ailerons being maxed out. Using aileron to correct a wing stall is only going to further disrupt the flow of air over the wing. By using rudder instead of aileron, you allow the wing to try and start flying again ... unless of course this model had no rudder.
darrindwp 3 months ago
Now you have contradicted yourself. "High speed stall occurs at nearly supersonic speeds." Then you type "Aerobatic stunts, like snap rolls deliberately use high speed stall to accomplish the desired flight path" Which is it? There is a correlation between speed and stall but the reason a plane stalls is the AOA reached its limit. The majority of you can keep thinking this way thats fine but in order to fly aerobatics you need to understand speed doesn't stall the plane AOA does.
hvachessler 3 months ago
You are talking elementary stalls and I'm talking aerobatic stalls or stalls on RC planes with way more elevator throw/area and the cg aft which will allow higher AOA even at high speeds. Here is one line of wikis definition of stall speed. "Stalls depend only on angle of attack, not airspeed" Everything you said I agree and you even made a great point about the banking but the fact is a plane can be stalled at any speed if a high AOA is achieved.
hvachessler 3 months ago
like the smile at the beginning
gamerguy436 3 months ago
Should never have taken off the second time. After the first landing the spinner and possibly the prop shaft were out of alignment.
geopapas1 3 months ago
I'd put the cause down to brain failure but the soundtrack rules that out. "Whooah! F*ckin 'ell!". These rocket scientists, eh?
NoCountryMembers 3 months ago
ppl need to learn the physics behind flying. Long run up into the wind then slight pull back & away you go, not rocket science!!
milzeh 5 months ago
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lol @ 0:17
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eastcoast78 5 months ago
why do people yank aircraft off the ground like that? certain failure!
rozenwing 5 months ago
@rozenwing
See it happen soooooo often. Right ??
MrHelidude 3 months ago
@rcreviewchanel yes he was in the air.
hvachessler 5 months ago
@rcreviewchanel this dude had airspeed. Watch the angle of the nose and tail. He has airspeed but pulls the nose up... stalls right wing, goes level(nose/tail) *still flying* pulls nose up again and stalls the left wing and crash. Lack of airspeed didn't crash this plane but stalls did happen and were the cause.
GlocknLoad1 5 months ago
@rcreviewchanel What you said to paul30003 is only partially correct. You said "if you stall your going to slow" and that is not the whole story. If you stall either you where going to slow OR you had to high of angle of attack OR you had the plane banked to far. You can stall a plane at an airspeed twice the stall speed with a high angle of attack or steeply banked. The point I was making is that low airspeed is NOT the only factor that causes a stall but you obviously missed the point.
hvachessler 5 months ago
@hvachessler
The only way I can visualise a plane flying along at twice its stall speed and yet be at such a high angle of attack that it stalls is that the plane is flying at twice the stall speed at low angle of attack, initially, and the pilot yanks the nose up hard, without increasing power. The speed bleeds off and the wing stalls. A wing stalls any time the airflow over the wing top breaks away from a smooth flow into a turbulent flow. This happens due to too hgih AOA, ....
shinco52 3 months ago
@shinco52 Speed doesn't have anything to do with it. You can stall a wing out at any speed. I go into snap rolls and out of them all way over the stall speed of the wing, yet the wing get stalled out. There is a thing called high speed stalling.
GlocknLoad1 3 months ago
@GlocknLoad1
As far as weekend flyers of full size (in my case, former full size flyer) or rc planes, I still stand by what I said, that stall is really very closely related to speed. High speed stalls is exactly what it says, it occurs at near supersonic speeds, which is not very likely to be what we see in our rc planes or non jet private planes. Aerobatic stunts, like snap rolls, deliberately use high speed stall to accomplish the desired flight path. For majority of us, stall=too low speed
shinco52 3 months ago
....usually due to flying too slow and yet still trying to maintain altitude, thus putting the wings at higher and higher AOA. A steeply banked plane can fall out of the sky even if the wings are not stalled, due to the vertical component of lift not being equal to a/c weight. BUT, yes, stall speed goes up if the plane weight increases. Why? cos the wings have to give more lift to support the higher weight. A bit hard to go into too detailed explanation due to the limited words I can type here..
shinco52 3 months ago
@rcreviewchanel I'm sorry but that makes no sense at all. Read what I wrote. A stall is when the wing stops flying whether it be low airspeed, high angle of attack, or steep banking. Airspeed is not the only factor that causes a stall.
hvachessler 5 months ago
Lol at the super slow "Fucking 'ell"
Ryzawing 5 months ago
first three rules of take off are. rudder rudder rudder. no rudder at first then to much with to much elevator
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Death to the Muslims and Christians .. Long live Israel a Jewish state
ISRAEL10F 7 months ago
To me it looks like the propeller and spinner points to the left at second takeoff
kangawroon 7 months ago
Bad pilots with bad low life language :-(
24262748 7 months ago
School boy error
pulsar46 7 months ago
Facking 'ell...Wot Happened?.....Fack Knows! Fack!
sjbwebb71 7 months ago
i still heard the engine running when it hit not a stall pure operator error damaged the plane on landing and was dumb enough to try and fly it again tried to take off it turned to the right he overcorrected and the plane went splat.
stealthypenguin134 7 months ago
@stealthypenguin134
In avaiation a stall means lack of airspeed for lift resulting in firstly unstable flight then simply dropping out of the sky. We are talking about if the engine was running or not.
To much elevator will create drag slowing the plain to a stall speed.
paul30003 6 months ago
@paul30003 still its operator error
stealthypenguin134 6 months ago
@paul30003 Not exactly, a stall means the wing has stopped flying. Low airspeed, high angle of attack, and steep banking are all causes. I can stall my Edge(model) at any speed with full up elevator, snap roll it and come out of it with almost as much speed as I entered it. Never heard of a high speed stall? My point is airspeed alone will not keep a wing from stalling.
hvachessler 5 months ago
@hvachessler
Fair point, yes thinking about how a wing works, not only will low speed cause a stall, but as you say a high angle of attack will prevent that high / low pressure differential on the wing surface that we know as lift. Glad you corrected me on this. Although I would say, I was half right :)
paul30003 5 months ago
"FACK YOU"
"What Happened?"
"FACK OFF"
chrislksrockets 7 months ago
@chrislksrockets LOL
eastcoast78 7 months ago
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abhiginimav 8 months ago
get the rake haha
cheepucabra 8 months ago
Tip Stall.
Revorob 9 months ago
Now it's easier to transport.
dalotel 9 months ago
he pointed it towards all the brush for take off?
TheOshcar 11 months ago
@TheOshcar dumb ass wil do that
holokhang991 11 months ago
Very poor airmanship there! Too low, too slow, course handling- CRUNCH! :(
LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH 11 months ago
afraid not , this was good old pilot error on marks part ! to much elevator not enough airspeed - result - tip stall then mexican wave then crash ! lol .
tbobborap1 1 year ago 5
@tbobborap1 I was just about to post that the guy had full elevator on, before I read your comments.
71259mark 8 months ago
Could be wind sheer when flying towards/above the high crops.
JurassicPlank 1 year ago
lol, my bro had one like that and the same thing happened to his ;)
1Filmproducer 1 year ago
haha the end, 'Fakin' 'Ell!'
mrtalkischeap 1 year ago
you have a cool channel! 5*****s ;-D
buderboi 1 year ago
i can remember the camera was a panasonic and cost £800 at the time ! now sitting in my loft deceased , captured some brilliant memorys though .
tbobborap1 1 year ago
nice quality vid for 1989
dmastax1x 1 year ago
You did not get enough speed on takeoff and it tip stalled.
The P-40 will do the same...plenty of takeoff speed is what's needed!
JMLUVZ2FLY 1 year ago
thats a cool plane sorry it broke in half
captain4948 1 year ago
at thirst i was like LOL but then i saw the crash and then i was like OMG
matanuialive2010 1 year ago