best version ive heard.i now a pogues fan.the irish made australia served their time fought our wars populated the country.make australia an irish state
Let's not forget the brits sent the Celts there as a penal colony to begin with. The indigenous people were the aboriginals. Yet, the ANZACS were willing to fight for their british oppressors. Free Ireland!
un des plus beaux textes sur la guerre, impossible de l ecouter sans larmes, dans la meme lignée, la chanson de craonne, et le "pourquoi ont ils tue Jaures" de Brel, j allais oublier Barbara des freres jacques QUELLE CONNERIE LA GUERRE
This is a good song. no other way to describe it and you all should stop arguing and you are fools and I hate you all I don’t think it’s cool or attractive to feel so superior to everyone that you shouldn’t be conscious, we are all just here and there is no such thing as better or worse and we all shouldn’t have names and pierce our toes to the bone and and I am just posing as this interesting girl with an interesting life with an imaginary enemies and this sour queer perpetration
it's a very sad song i believe all wars should be remembered as long as they are used as a warning to make sure history does not repeat itself ..too many people are spending too much time analysing this war /this song ..it's very easy to sort out the good guys from the bad guys in a war that was fought nearly a hundred years ago...if people took as much time thinking and commenting about current affairs it might help a change come about but you're all too busy trying to sound clever.
but i dont think thats the problem i think its good to celebrate the life that was lost but i dont think it should be forgotten or overshaddowed by the sacrifice that people made else the whole point is lost.... least we forget....
@gtrpickable o it was written by him for a folk festival or something when i was a kids my folks were into folk music.... and english or scot or something writing a song about Australian ANZAC day celebrations... sombre though they were..... my generation of kids took it seriously '76 but it seems today its an excuse for not remembering the terific sacrifice of all... the absolute waste of humanity..... its not to be forgotten not to get pissed on the grounds....
beautifully tragic. the young get sent to fight wars they didn't start or want, to return home wounded, crippled and maimed and blind, or to not return home at all. For what? for the old rich and powerful to start a new war all over again? And the young people ask "What are they marching for?" And I ask myself the same question. (says the man whose legs were lost for a war he never wanted)
My great grandfather was an Aussie survivor of Gallipoli. It was a generation when honour and duty meant something. Lest we forget the bravery and the sacrifice.
ask either of them whats the difference between aussies and brits and the answer will always be something stupid about who can drink the most pints of shitty brown ale or score the most goals in a soccer game
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Composed by a Scotsman, sung by an Irishmen, about an English campaign, fought by Australian's and New Zealander's (ANZACS), against the Turk's at Gallipoli in WW1.
Yeah but what were we defending? Arrive at Heathrow and join the long queue of Indians, Aussies, Kiwis, Canadians, West Indians et al. Stupid us, thinking we were British subjects. Meanwhile the Germans walk straight through on EU passports. See the irony?
@tobydun No irony really, as this song refers to a battle with the Turks.The Germans were not involved. Perhaps you should read your history before you make innorant comments.
wars are so fuckin stupid, a quote from the song "the green fields of france": mans blind indifference indifference to his fellow man, so damn true, cant there just be peace on earth? <3
@apfelstrudelmaster aint gonna happen, humans are to hardheaded to have peace with everyone. humans are selfish creatures and they will do anything to get what they want. and killing everyone who stands in the way, is the easiest method.
Beste Grüsse aus Deutschland..Jeder Krieg ist unmoralisch..egal wer für welches Heimatland stirbt!!..mein Volk hatt genug gebüsst...lasst uns Freunde sein!!
it's nice to be alive to comment..... this is about young men who died for us to live the lives we enjoy now. I'm glad that easter took a back seat to the these poor young souls.
it's nice to be alive to comment..... this is about young men who died for us to live the lives we enjoy now. I'm glad that easter took a back seat to the these poor young souls.
This song is among the best anti-war songs ever written. Up there right along side Where have all the Flowers gone, Imagine and One Tin Soldier. Incredible respect to the song writer. We can never forget what happened in times like this, or we'll make the same mistakes again. Peace
Hmmm? Scrolled down a bit to see some yutzes saying Shane's vocals are an insult to this song and he shouldn't be allowed to sing it, "anything for a dollar," etc... This is one of the best deliveries of this song you could possibly hope for. Perfection from the closing track of a true classic album filled with power and humor and Shane's grand poetry. Get a clue!
@lestat7632 But it was written by a British songwriter! Eric Bogle was born and brought up in the Scottish Borders and emigrated to Australia as an adult of about 25 years of age. This song was written in the first couple of years of him being in Oz.
Much like they try to pretend John Simpson Kirkpatrick was a Kiwi. He was a geordie from South Shields, a member of the International Workers Of The World trade union and a proud member of the working class who refused to recognise national boundries.
play this song every memorial day, giving cheers to all who have served, and hopes that none will have to serve again. Beautiful song, this and John mcdermitts are my favorites
Doesn't matter who or when it be sang, this is a song of those that defend the freedom of those (more and more so, Nigs, Mex, Libs, Socialists) that want to eat but not pay... God Bless all that have fought for freedom... AND BTW F-U OBAMA!
Anyone else remember that when they played this people would stop moshing and waltz together? Great memories. Thanks. Happy St. Pat's Everyone. End war.
The last American veteran of World War I just died. There are only 1 Englishwoman and 1 Aussie left. The Lost Generation is truly lost to us, and they deserve to be remembered by us all.
@MrDuignan "Only" means "ONLY" Look it up, I'm sure you've a copy of OED somewhere close by. The answer to your first question is, therefore, "NONE". If you don't care to take my word for it, simply google "remaining world war i veterans". That leaves it unnecessary to honor your snarky second question with an answer.
@BrianBinOR I agree when i was a kid it was a sad occasion to remeber the sacrifice made by so many, not just australians but the terrible impact of the first world war....... not just to be miss used by the AUSTRALIAN goverment as part of there international public relations campaign..... its a solem occassion..... LEAST we forget...
For some (not all) posters that are idiots. This is basically a protest song about the futility of war. Correct me if I am wrong but this attack was the doings of Winston Churchill cutting his teeth as a military leader. A total disaster with no impact on teh outcome of WWi
@bolabus Actully Churchill was against kicking arabs off there land to make a "homeland for the jews" so that ticks Zionist off the list...Genocidal? no he wanst..the only time he came close was when he had to decide wheater to gas the curds on not...he decided not to......Maniac? in sum respects yeah he was .. hence why we won the war....and homo is impossible as he had a wife!....so fuck him? no mate....Fuck you
"Never knew there were there worse things than dying.." that always makes me tear up. My dad is a Vietnam vet so this song has special significance for me.
I dont find this as much of a Anti War song as as Song Sobering of the effects and cost of wars, By no means am i agesnt war, i beleave there are times when you are left with war as the only option, how ever that doesnt mean its always the answer, Nor should one go blindly into the fray with hopes there officer's know everything, as rarely do they know much more then the enlisted
I think the pogues do an amazing version of this song. Only him could get the drunken war veteren rambling about his life in the corner of a pub drinking away his sorrows. it's a brilliant band doing a brillian version of a brilliant song
You know, Shane's performance here is actually pretty subtle in a way. The first time I heard the song, I was struck by how dissimilar it was to the brilliant Liam Clancy rendition. I was struck by Shane's voice, which is a lot like Dylan, Young, Cash, etc. It's as immediately radio-friendly as so much overproduced pop garbage, but that's because it's REAL. Shane pours real emotion into his every word, but you have to LISTEN to the beautiful subtitles inherent in the song and his singing.
I recently read a military biography of Winston Churchill and a large section was the debacle that was the battle of Galippoli.
This song really came alive when I realized that these men died pointless deaths because the British officer class couldn't fathom that the British could lose. They took massive casualties in the Bohr war then repeated the same arrogance in WW1
@Breacca Churchill was hell bent on being a war hero and didn't listen to his generals consoling him that the war plans would cost thousands of lives.
Not all wars are pointless.
Fighting terrorism and the Nazis are two cases.
They started over stupidity but the wars had to happne.
@MCpEAsOUP Churchill was a commander in the first world war and oversaw the attack on Gallipoli. The poverty caused to Germany was caused becasue of the treaty of versaille, as germany were responsible for WW1 they had to pay reparitions to affected countries which they had agreed to. As a result the Germans printed off an incredible amount of money which in turn made their currency worthless. That is what led to people like Hitler being created and the start of WW2.
@MCpEAsOUP Churchill was a commander in the first world war and oversaw the attack on Gallipoli. The poverty caused to Germany was caused becasue of the treaty of versaille, as germany were responsible for WW1 they had to pay reparitions to affected countries which they had agreed to. As a result the Germans printed off an incredible amount of money which in turn made their currency worthless. That is what led to people like Hitler being created and the start of WW2.
@MCpEAsOUP You sir also need to learn your history before you talk about. Churchill was First Lord of the Admiralty during WW1 and had everything to do with Galipoli, it was his idea to invade the Dardanelles to begin with.
@MCpEAsOUP Churchill served as First Lord of the Admirality during the start of WWI which is the head of the navy you clown. He was the head of the British military at the start of the war and you think he had nothing to do with Gallipoli?
He sponsored the assault and was demoted because of it. He then left the government and served for several months on the Western Front commanding the 6th Battalion of the Royal Scots Fusiliers, with the rank of lieutenant colonel.
@MCpEAsOUP You seriously need to heed your own advice and LEARN some history. Churchill was First Lord of the Admiralty and the Gallipoli campainge was his idea and after it failed he was demoted.
Dedicate for Felicity "Fiss", our dear Australian's friend, and irish music ! we are fond of that, in my country ! (country=...country in the country ^^ in France, but in a village with sheeps and cows (lol), and an Irish festival ^^ )
I don't think that the song is about being critical of those who think that there are things worth fighting for, and I don't think that it's saying veterans shouldn't be thanks for their services, I think it's just lamenting the fact that humans fight over such things and that the world works the way it does. This could be a song about either side of a war to me, it's something at once about the personal experiences of a soldier and not about the overall politics of anything. Just my 2c.
I think both have their merits. I heard Liam's version first so it's the version I first fell in love with, but I think Shane's is interesting. Shane reminds me in some ways of Dylan. He doesn't have the most conventionally pleasing voice, but there's a certain mystique that he has, however drunken and scraggly, Shane sounds like a man whose live hard and lived to sing about it and say what he means. He's a punk poet whose public image and difficult nature often overshadow his true talent.
In 1934 Atatürk wrote a tribute to the ANZACs killed at Gallipoli:
"Those heroes that shed their blood and lost their lives... You are now lying in the soil of a friendly country. Therefore rest in peace. ... you, the mothers, who sent their sons from faraway countries wipe away your tears; your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. After having lost their lives on this land. They have become our sons as well."
well the tenth irish division landed at sulvla bay in august 1915 , supported by attacks by the australians at a.n.z.a.c cove , so its quite right that an irishman sings this song, over 210,000 irish men from all counties in the present day north and south of ireland enlisted , with out conscription! to fight and die during the great war
well the tenth irish division landed at sulvla bay in august 1915 , supported by attacks by the australians at a.n.z.a.c cove , so its quite right that an irishman sings this song, over 210,000 irish men from all counties in the present day north and south of ireland enlisted , with out conscription! to fight and die during the great war
Shane might not be a technically great singer, but his voice is one of the most powerful and moving in popular music and he's written some of the most beautiful songs I've ever heard (i know he didn't write this one).
Everyone please ease up. This is an Australian song. We grew up with it. It is a very meaningful song to all Aussies. It is about our forefathers that went off to war (to fight for the empire) and a large percentage never came back. Written by a Scot that came to Australia when he was about 24. This is not a glorification of war. Like ANZAC day, it is what it is
@peterlawler1 Absolutely, Peter! I am of Eastern European origin but was brought up in Australia. This song was equally appreciated by immigrants from every corner of the world (once they'd learned English). It represents everything that Australia stood for -- and I still hope it stands for -- being the working class being exploited by the elite.
It speaks to everyone who has come here to escape tyranny. I don't know a single immigrant who doesn't shed a tear on hearing this. It is our emblem!
@peterlawler1 It needs to be understood that 'Waltzing Matilda' in itself would have been meaningful to Aussies at the time (Banjo Paterson was of Scottish heritage, but was born in Australia). Of course, the lyrics would sound like gobbledygook to English speakers as it was constructed of Aussie colloquialisms of the time. Basically, it spoke for the independent individual pitted against the establishment/elite who was prepared to die rather than captured by the troopers who enforced the 'law'.
@peterlawler1 The ANZACS, themselves, were committed to standing up for the masses/average worker. They were exploited by the very system Australians hated. For them, their commitment to 'Empire' was a commitment to justice for all.
It is tragic that so few people know anything about Australian history and how brutally & cynically decent, moral people were exploited by propaganda by the 'Empire'. This song was written as a poignant reminder of why we should not be sucked in by propaganda again.
When you hear this it's sad to think that 20 years later we were at it again. The world had learnt nothing and 90 years later people are still dying in pointless wars. If you don't learn from history you're doomed to repeat it!
They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning,
We will remember them.
Lest we forget.
“Lest we forget” does not encourage celebration or pride. It asks us to regretfully, solemnly, drag pain into the world once more; to remind ourselves what we destroyed. It troubles me that some feel pride, where the sentiment is shame. It’s a bitter duty, not a proud moment.
Powerful song/lyric about the futility of war (all war) written by the wonderful ERIC BOGLE who emigrated to Australia in 1969 and still lives here. We who know him and his music are very proud to have him amongst us. I have seen him live many times over the years. Check out Eric's website.
I'm an Aussie (and for those who didn't pick it up it's an Aussie song, yeah, gets played on our memorial days and stuff), and hearing this in Shanes Irish accent is no shame whatsover, wonderful rendition
3 or 4 people from newzealand had their tea cups upset and the austalians and kiwis have been whining on about it ever since, which obviously shows a lack of perspective.
Or as we In the UK realise, they lack bottle and just aint up to it.
@roberts1966 yes, more British were killed and wounded. No one said that doesn't matter. Australia is a small country, small pop, and the troops we lost there was significant to us. Who said we were the best or the greatest? What do you expect us to do, not write any songs about our loss and forget it all? And before you go writing off the Anzacs and trying to devalue them, it wasn't their war, they obeyed their duty to fight for the British. Remember that.
@tosgem Well said. As a Limey I will always be grateful to our Commonwealth friends who stood up to the plate with us in two devastating World Wars. None of our sons died in vain, thankfully.
Shane Mcgowan is a truly great singer, we will miss him when he's gone, so enjoy while he's still alive!
jamsieboy1986 1 week ago
Im an irish republican, and I absolutely love this song
REDBACKDEAD 1 week ago
great
dersaratinmykitchen 1 week ago in playlist toms music
Class song.
ThereIsOnlyOneKeown 2 weeks ago
learned about this song on rememberance day...
theschof96 2 weeks ago
best version ive heard.i now a pogues fan.the irish made australia served their time fought our wars populated the country.make australia an irish state
jimyhickie 3 weeks ago
@jimyhickie Search for The Pogues A Pair of Brown Eyes, another great song
DWT1888 2 weeks ago 2
The pogues - singing The Band Played Waltzing Matilda ? .. no. Sorry, just not right.
Go and make your dollars another way .
ChifleyLIB 1 month ago
@ChifleyLIB Way to miss the point. Dollars? Get a clue...
Thurbane316 6 days ago in playlist Favorite videos
all that aside , the pogues give the best version i've heard
largehedgehog 1 month ago
Let's not forget the brits sent the Celts there as a penal colony to begin with. The indigenous people were the aboriginals. Yet, the ANZACS were willing to fight for their british oppressors. Free Ireland!
McCulleyJr 1 month ago
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fleetwood1111 1 month ago
no-one wins during war, even the so called victors
martygills 1 month ago
Probably the saddest song ever written.
ballinameen 1 month ago 9
un des plus beaux textes sur la guerre, impossible de l ecouter sans larmes, dans la meme lignée, la chanson de craonne, et le "pourquoi ont ils tue Jaures" de Brel, j allais oublier Barbara des freres jacques QUELLE CONNERIE LA GUERRE
SuperEdoras 2 months ago
extremely powerful song - the pogues did it very well. tks.
btw to the sanctimonious a-ho's arguing in the previous posts just remember - the turks died too! everybody lost.
MrAlsby 2 months ago
extremely powerful song - the pogues did it very well. tks.
MrAlsby 2 months ago 2
fills me with sadness
tonysm59 2 months ago in playlist more foriegn muck
love this song. no words to describe it.
Poco64 2 months ago
This is a good song. no other way to describe it and you all should stop arguing and you are fools and I hate you all I don’t think it’s cool or attractive to feel so superior to everyone that you shouldn’t be conscious, we are all just here and there is no such thing as better or worse and we all shouldn’t have names and pierce our toes to the bone and and I am just posing as this interesting girl with an interesting life with an imaginary enemies and this sour queer perpetration
animagibitchz 2 months ago
@SuperMrFrodo i like them but i think they would ruin it
xL1Am78 2 months ago
evil never rests - so good men play bad - the good die young so that there may be peace "in our time" ?
LEST WE FORGET - at the going down of the sun "every day" ! ! !
rollingdominoesman 2 months ago
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rollingdominoesman 2 months ago
it's a very sad song i believe all wars should be remembered as long as they are used as a warning to make sure history does not repeat itself ..too many people are spending too much time analysing this war /this song ..it's very easy to sort out the good guys from the bad guys in a war that was fought nearly a hundred years ago...if people took as much time thinking and commenting about current affairs it might help a change come about but you're all too busy trying to sound clever.
iampunitan 2 months ago
my dogs named matilda after this song... :)
dfwb9889 3 months ago
but i dont think thats the problem i think its good to celebrate the life that was lost but i dont think it should be forgotten or overshaddowed by the sacrifice that people made else the whole point is lost.... least we forget....
ferret630 3 months ago
beautiful song
emohatred 3 months ago
I thought the composer ( Eric Bogle ) is Australian
gtrpickable 4 months ago
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Scottish born but has lived in Australia since the 70's
Unotuchable 3 months ago
@gtrpickable o it was written by him for a folk festival or something when i was a kids my folks were into folk music.... and english or scot or something writing a song about Australian ANZAC day celebrations... sombre though they were..... my generation of kids took it seriously '76 but it seems today its an excuse for not remembering the terific sacrifice of all... the absolute waste of humanity..... its not to be forgotten not to get pissed on the grounds....
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beautifully tragic. the young get sent to fight wars they didn't start or want, to return home wounded, crippled and maimed and blind, or to not return home at all. For what? for the old rich and powerful to start a new war all over again? And the young people ask "What are they marching for?" And I ask myself the same question. (says the man whose legs were lost for a war he never wanted)
lgd1974 4 months ago
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lgd1974 4 months ago
oh crazy free german america!!!!!!!!!!!
thaifighter36 4 months ago
Beau et triste à pleurer
sts44 4 months ago
Einfach super,berührend,traurig und ideal vorgetragen!!!!
1953honkytonkheroe 5 months ago
My great grandfather was an Aussie survivor of Gallipoli. It was a generation when honour and duty meant something. Lest we forget the bravery and the sacrifice.
Thurbane316 5 months ago
australian and british = same fucking thing
ask either of them whats the difference between aussies and brits and the answer will always be something stupid about who can drink the most pints of shitty brown ale or score the most goals in a soccer game
zeitende 5 months ago
its a the british way unfortunatly fighting spears with cannons and laving there conscripts out front against real armies
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TheServiceWeb 6 months ago
i dont think it was arrogance ,,,, these were awefull decissions to make but they had to be made,,, in the end they got more right than the enemy
5bears799 6 months ago
Composed by a Scotsman, sung by an Irishmen, about an English campaign, fought by Australian's and New Zealander's (ANZACS), against the Turk's at Gallipoli in WW1.
Epic Song.
Laps58 6 months ago 62
Yeah but what were we defending? Arrive at Heathrow and join the long queue of Indians, Aussies, Kiwis, Canadians, West Indians et al. Stupid us, thinking we were British subjects. Meanwhile the Germans walk straight through on EU passports. See the irony?
tobydun 8 months ago
@tobydun No irony really, as this song refers to a battle with the Turks.The Germans were not involved. Perhaps you should read your history before you make innorant comments.
lorcanmcnicholas 7 months ago
@tobydun Maybe you should have some pride and be happy not to be anyones subject.
Bosco239 6 months ago
wars are so fuckin stupid, a quote from the song "the green fields of france": mans blind indifference indifference to his fellow man, so damn true, cant there just be peace on earth? <3
apfelstrudelmaster 8 months ago
@apfelstrudelmaster aint gonna happen, humans are to hardheaded to have peace with everyone. humans are selfish creatures and they will do anything to get what they want. and killing everyone who stands in the way, is the easiest method.
SgtZippzapp 7 months ago
@SgtZippzapp yeah, i guess, its sad but true :(
apfelstrudelmaster 7 months ago
Beste Grüsse aus Deutschland..Jeder Krieg ist unmoralisch..egal wer für welches Heimatland stirbt!!..mein Volk hatt genug gebüsst...lasst uns Freunde sein!!
miromanism 8 months ago 2
@miromanism Genau, mein Freund. Beste Gruesse auch aus England.
ega95jch 6 months ago
@ega95jch Dir auch nochmal die besten Grüsse!!! Michael vom Bodensee..
miromanism 5 months ago
I love it
mads2shine09 8 months ago
wickedly appropriate.
jasholden 8 months ago
I listen to Opera, and I still think Shane is one of the best singers I have ever heard. I've never believed someone's words more than I have Shane's
flicfan416 8 months ago 3
To all ANZACS you are great allies and have paid a terrible price for the advancement of freedom. America did not win wwi we won it together.
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redhawk731 8 months ago
To all ANZACS you are great allies and have paid a terrible price for the advancement of freedom. America did not winnwwi we won it together.
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redhawk731 8 months ago
Ein Song gegen alle Kriege...Greetings @ all from Germany
miromanism 9 months ago
Someday no one will march there at all...
babelfish1012 9 months ago
it's nice to be alive to comment..... this is about young men who died for us to live the lives we enjoy now. I'm glad that easter took a back seat to the these poor young souls.
horsesareawesome21 9 months ago
it's nice to be alive to comment..... this is about young men who died for us to live the lives we enjoy now. I'm glad that easter took a back seat to the these poor young souls.
horsesareawesome21 9 months ago
lest we forget <3
xxXXxPagexXXxx 9 months ago
Those Turks of the Ottaman Empire were a tough Empire, I'm Canadian and us colonies won the Great War for the British at a great cost.
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HarryBaum 9 months ago
This song is among the best anti-war songs ever written. Up there right along side Where have all the Flowers gone, Imagine and One Tin Soldier. Incredible respect to the song writer. We can never forget what happened in times like this, or we'll make the same mistakes again. Peace
Ikki1604 9 months ago
Hmmm? Scrolled down a bit to see some yutzes saying Shane's vocals are an insult to this song and he shouldn't be allowed to sing it, "anything for a dollar," etc... This is one of the best deliveries of this song you could possibly hope for. Perfection from the closing track of a true classic album filled with power and humor and Shane's grand poetry. Get a clue!
JAIstarkillerkid 9 months ago 4
@knoskillerr666 You dumb ass - this is about the british in WW1
happy42xxx 10 months ago
@happy42xxx Uhhh...the Australians.
absoftitanium 9 months ago
@happy42xxx
This song is about Australians who fought at Galliopli in WW1 , not about the British.
lestat7632 9 months ago
@lestat7632 But it was written by a British songwriter! Eric Bogle was born and brought up in the Scottish Borders and emigrated to Australia as an adult of about 25 years of age. This song was written in the first couple of years of him being in Oz.
gaconnochie 9 months ago
@gaconnochie
Much like they try to pretend John Simpson Kirkpatrick was a Kiwi. He was a geordie from South Shields, a member of the International Workers Of The World trade union and a proud member of the working class who refused to recognise national boundries.
roberts1966 9 months ago
@lestat7632 the anzacs.... not just australians.....
sctt44 8 months ago
@happy42xxx but eh americans won ww1 and ww2 for us??? yeehaaa wheres my burger?????
sctt44 8 months ago
@knoskillerr666 Tell em what mate ??? We never started wars of our own??? Piss off
M4Nmbr56 10 months ago
No War But The Class War
roberts1966 10 months ago
play this song every memorial day, giving cheers to all who have served, and hopes that none will have to serve again. Beautiful song, this and John mcdermitts are my favorites
bobstockwell8705 10 months ago
no war but the class war!
MrHippobippo 10 months ago
Doesn't matter who or when it be sang, this is a song of those that defend the freedom of those (more and more so, Nigs, Mex, Libs, Socialists) that want to eat but not pay... God Bless all that have fought for freedom... AND BTW F-U OBAMA!
DannyDad208 10 months ago
written by a scotsman based in australia and sang brilliantly by an irishman, its a small world.
1000tubthumper 10 months ago
this is no anti war song its an australian story something that proud aussie's play in memorial...lest we forget
brutalbrital 10 months ago
@brutalbrital I think you must be listening to a differnt song.
ega95jch 6 months ago
this is no anti war song
brutalbrital 10 months ago
Anyone else remember that when they played this people would stop moshing and waltz together? Great memories. Thanks. Happy St. Pat's Everyone. End war.
annikee59 10 months ago
The last American veteran of World War I just died. There are only 1 Englishwoman and 1 Aussie left. The Lost Generation is truly lost to us, and they deserve to be remembered by us all.
BrianBinOR 11 months ago 52
@BrianBinOR how many are left from other countries? Or do they not count?
MrDuignan 10 months ago
@MrDuignan "Only" means "ONLY" Look it up, I'm sure you've a copy of OED somewhere close by. The answer to your first question is, therefore, "NONE". If you don't care to take my word for it, simply google "remaining world war i veterans". That leaves it unnecessary to honor your snarky second question with an answer.
BrianBinOR 10 months ago
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Yeah!
mth166abc 6 months ago
@BrianBinOR I agree when i was a kid it was a sad occasion to remeber the sacrifice made by so many, not just australians but the terrible impact of the first world war....... not just to be miss used by the AUSTRALIAN goverment as part of there international public relations campaign..... its a solem occassion..... LEAST we forget...
ferret630 3 months ago
my great grandad is stronger than ever.....hes still trying to join up!!
ferret630 3 months ago
this song has made so many people think twice about the mad rush to kill.... LEAST WE FORGET
ferret630 3 months ago
this song and shitloads of bottles of whiskey got me through a bad break up
dangleberry07 11 months ago
@dangleberry07 For me it was beer and "A Pair of Brown Eyes". Cheers, Mate.
Pinckney12 11 months ago
Shane never got his teeth fixed. Said it wasn't natural. I don't think he went to the gym much either. My kind of human.
dmarkg58 11 months ago 2
Shane never got his teeth fixed. Said it wasn't natural.
dmarkg58 11 months ago
Did Shane McGowan ever get his teeth fixed? I always felt sorry for him in that regard.
Pinckney12 11 months ago
@Pinckney12 yeah,, der gone again though :P
rockst4rFTW 11 months ago
@Pinckney12
Even though some guys are telling that he never got em fixed.
I've seen him last year August 3rd in Berlin with beautiful fixed teeth!
There are even pics of him with some weird beanie on and hollywood smile!
BigotedVideo 11 months ago
@BigotedVideo That's great. He's gonna be in my hometown in March - Royal Oak , Michigan.
Pinckney12 11 months ago
as story-songs go, this is the best.
Makes sense to include that it was written by Scottish-born singer-songwriter Eric Bogle in 1971.
zazeify 11 months ago
It's a great ditty akin to The Green Fields of France.
BhoyWunda 1 year ago
Have forwarded this to my very young co-workers and my grandsons. When will we understand that we need to end wars !!!
52topper 1 year ago
For some (not all) posters that are idiots. This is basically a protest song about the futility of war. Correct me if I am wrong but this attack was the doings of Winston Churchill cutting his teeth as a military leader. A total disaster with no impact on teh outcome of WWi
MrEddieo1 1 year ago
@MrEddieo1 churchill was the scape goat.....it wanst actully all his fault
Britainsloyalist 1 year ago
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bolabus 1 year ago
@bolabus Actully Churchill was against kicking arabs off there land to make a "homeland for the jews" so that ticks Zionist off the list...Genocidal? no he wanst..the only time he came close was when he had to decide wheater to gas the curds on not...he decided not to......Maniac? in sum respects yeah he was .. hence why we won the war....and homo is impossible as he had a wife!....so fuck him? no mate....Fuck you
Britainsloyalist 1 year ago
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bolabus 1 year ago
@bolabus for doing what? proving you wrong after everything you just sed??? kinda pathetic arent you
Britainsloyalist 1 year ago
"Never knew there were there worse things than dying.." that always makes me tear up. My dad is a Vietnam vet so this song has special significance for me.
BamaToon 1 year ago 5
Perhaps it is a chronichle from Irishmen who met Australian soldiers This tune has become an international antiwar song,
pfigueredo 1 year ago
they gave me a tin hat, they gave me a gun
AwesomeAussie73 1 year ago
i grew up listening to this song courtesty of a dumb irish father
AwesomeAussie73 1 year ago
I dont find this as much of a Anti War song as as Song Sobering of the effects and cost of wars, By no means am i agesnt war, i beleave there are times when you are left with war as the only option, how ever that doesnt mean its always the answer, Nor should one go blindly into the fray with hopes there officer's know everything, as rarely do they know much more then the enlisted
n2123n 1 year ago
I used this as part of a History course I was offering to 14 yr old pupils
It did more for understanding of conflict than all the films and books. I have never seen so many in real tears! ( yes, boys too )
It has to be one of the greatest anti war songs ever.
Oldgit
7oct1936 1 year ago 5
I think the pogues do an amazing version of this song. Only him could get the drunken war veteren rambling about his life in the corner of a pub drinking away his sorrows. it's a brilliant band doing a brillian version of a brilliant song
lobbielou 1 year ago
You know, Shane's performance here is actually pretty subtle in a way. The first time I heard the song, I was struck by how dissimilar it was to the brilliant Liam Clancy rendition. I was struck by Shane's voice, which is a lot like Dylan, Young, Cash, etc. It's as immediately radio-friendly as so much overproduced pop garbage, but that's because it's REAL. Shane pours real emotion into his every word, but you have to LISTEN to the beautiful subtitles inherent in the song and his singing.
hanshotfirst1138 1 year ago 4
@U2Larkin04 I think they're both brilliant in their ways.
hanshotfirst1138 1 year ago
I recently read a military biography of Winston Churchill and a large section was the debacle that was the battle of Galippoli.
This song really came alive when I realized that these men died pointless deaths because the British officer class couldn't fathom that the British could lose. They took massive casualties in the Bohr war then repeated the same arrogance in WW1
Truly a pointless war.
rrtodd95 1 year ago 13
@rrtodd95 the lessons Churchill learned helped the D day landings to be a success but nothing justifies regarding brave soldiers as cannon fodder
john131349 5 months ago
@rrtodd95 isn´t EVERY war pointless?
Breacca 5 months ago
@Breacca Churchill was hell bent on being a war hero and didn't listen to his generals consoling him that the war plans would cost thousands of lives.
Not all wars are pointless.
Fighting terrorism and the Nazis are two cases.
They started over stupidity but the wars had to happne.
rrtodd95 5 months ago
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MCpEAsOUP 4 months ago
@MCpEAsOUP Churchill was a commander in the first world war and oversaw the attack on Gallipoli. The poverty caused to Germany was caused becasue of the treaty of versaille, as germany were responsible for WW1 they had to pay reparitions to affected countries which they had agreed to. As a result the Germans printed off an incredible amount of money which in turn made their currency worthless. That is what led to people like Hitler being created and the start of WW2.
ncorso1983 4 months ago
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@MCpEAsOUP Churchill was a commander in the first world war and oversaw the attack on Gallipoli. The poverty caused to Germany was caused becasue of the treaty of versaille, as germany were responsible for WW1 they had to pay reparitions to affected countries which they had agreed to. As a result the Germans printed off an incredible amount of money which in turn made their currency worthless. That is what led to people like Hitler being created and the start of WW2.
ncorso1983 4 months ago
@MCpEAsOUP You sir also need to learn your history before you talk about. Churchill was First Lord of the Admiralty during WW1 and had everything to do with Galipoli, it was his idea to invade the Dardanelles to begin with.
cilldroichid 4 months ago
@MCpEAsOUP Churchill served as First Lord of the Admirality during the start of WWI which is the head of the navy you clown. He was the head of the British military at the start of the war and you think he had nothing to do with Gallipoli?
He sponsored the assault and was demoted because of it. He then left the government and served for several months on the Western Front commanding the 6th Battalion of the Royal Scots Fusiliers, with the rank of lieutenant colonel.
rrtodd95 4 months ago
@MCpEAsOUP Let me guess, you must be American. What ignorance. You probably believe in creationism. Gallipoli was Churchill's idea numbskull.
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MCpEAsOUP 4 months ago
@MCpEAsOUP You seriously need to heed your own advice and LEARN some history. Churchill was First Lord of the Admiralty and the Gallipoli campainge was his idea and after it failed he was demoted.
bnamc1 4 months ago
@rrtodd95 that's why churchill wanted indians, aussies and new zealanders for ww2... because they weren't really theirs. second class.
derdriui 4 months ago
Dedicate for Felicity "Fiss", our dear Australian's friend, and irish music ! we are fond of that, in my country ! (country=...country in the country ^^ in France, but in a village with sheeps and cows (lol), and an Irish festival ^^ )
This song is cool :)
titigrette 1 year ago
I don't think that the song is about being critical of those who think that there are things worth fighting for, and I don't think that it's saying veterans shouldn't be thanks for their services, I think it's just lamenting the fact that humans fight over such things and that the world works the way it does. This could be a song about either side of a war to me, it's something at once about the personal experiences of a soldier and not about the overall politics of anything. Just my 2c.
hanshotfirst1138 1 year ago
I think both have their merits. I heard Liam's version first so it's the version I first fell in love with, but I think Shane's is interesting. Shane reminds me in some ways of Dylan. He doesn't have the most conventionally pleasing voice, but there's a certain mystique that he has, however drunken and scraggly, Shane sounds like a man whose live hard and lived to sing about it and say what he means. He's a punk poet whose public image and difficult nature often overshadow his true talent.
hanshotfirst1138 1 year ago
@jratt2 Not a Pogues fan, I see :P.
hanshotfirst1138 1 year ago
@hanshotfirst1138 lol...I think they are over-rated.
jratt2 5 months ago
In 1934 Atatürk wrote a tribute to the ANZACs killed at Gallipoli:
"Those heroes that shed their blood and lost their lives... You are now lying in the soil of a friendly country. Therefore rest in peace. ... you, the mothers, who sent their sons from faraway countries wipe away your tears; your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. After having lost their lives on this land. They have become our sons as well."
jrwjrw88 1 year ago 3
@jrwjrw88 Atatürk was a great man...
tmafkap 1 year ago
Shane, I hate war.
bannanachops 1 year ago
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well the tenth irish division landed at sulvla bay in august 1915 , supported by attacks by the australians at a.n.z.a.c cove , so its quite right that an irishman sings this song, over 210,000 irish men from all counties in the present day north and south of ireland enlisted , with out conscription! to fight and die during the great war
lest we forget the 10th (irish) division
steeldragons1984 1 year ago
well the tenth irish division landed at sulvla bay in august 1915 , supported by attacks by the australians at a.n.z.a.c cove , so its quite right that an irishman sings this song, over 210,000 irish men from all counties in the present day north and south of ireland enlisted , with out conscription! to fight and die during the great war
lest we forget the 10th (irish) division
steeldragons1984 1 year ago 4
true heart breaker this song!
RandomVortex 1 year ago 3
Shane might not be a technically great singer, but his voice is one of the most powerful and moving in popular music and he's written some of the most beautiful songs I've ever heard (i know he didn't write this one).
peacefrog1916 1 year ago 21
Everyone please ease up. This is an Australian song. We grew up with it. It is a very meaningful song to all Aussies. It is about our forefathers that went off to war (to fight for the empire) and a large percentage never came back. Written by a Scot that came to Australia when he was about 24. This is not a glorification of war. Like ANZAC day, it is what it is
peterlawler1 9 months ago 8
@peterlawler1 Absolutely, Peter! I am of Eastern European origin but was brought up in Australia. This song was equally appreciated by immigrants from every corner of the world (once they'd learned English). It represents everything that Australia stood for -- and I still hope it stands for -- being the working class being exploited by the elite.
It speaks to everyone who has come here to escape tyranny. I don't know a single immigrant who doesn't shed a tear on hearing this. It is our emblem!
irynski 2 months ago
@peterlawler1 It needs to be understood that 'Waltzing Matilda' in itself would have been meaningful to Aussies at the time (Banjo Paterson was of Scottish heritage, but was born in Australia). Of course, the lyrics would sound like gobbledygook to English speakers as it was constructed of Aussie colloquialisms of the time. Basically, it spoke for the independent individual pitted against the establishment/elite who was prepared to die rather than captured by the troopers who enforced the 'law'.
irynski 2 months ago
@peterlawler1 The ANZACS, themselves, were committed to standing up for the masses/average worker. They were exploited by the very system Australians hated. For them, their commitment to 'Empire' was a commitment to justice for all.
It is tragic that so few people know anything about Australian history and how brutally & cynically decent, moral people were exploited by propaganda by the 'Empire'. This song was written as a poignant reminder of why we should not be sucked in by propaganda again.
irynski 2 months ago
@peacefrog1916 ah, he is from fucking nenagh like meself I LOVE THAT WEE FUCKER!
seanothebeast 8 months ago
When you hear this it's sad to think that 20 years later we were at it again. The world had learnt nothing and 90 years later people are still dying in pointless wars. If you don't learn from history you're doomed to repeat it!
billdadd 1 year ago 5
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@billdadd History repeats itself
Nightweaver435 1 year ago
Wozu sind Kriege da ???
immer2mehralsdu 1 year ago
greed causes war
67graham 1 year ago
Ode of Remembrance.
They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning,
We will remember them.
Lest we forget.
“Lest we forget” does not encourage celebration or pride. It asks us to regretfully, solemnly, drag pain into the world once more; to remind ourselves what we destroyed. It troubles me that some feel pride, where the sentiment is shame. It’s a bitter duty, not a proud moment.
euphemus2 1 year ago
Powerful song/lyric about the futility of war (all war) written by the wonderful ERIC BOGLE who emigrated to Australia in 1969 and still lives here. We who know him and his music are very proud to have him amongst us. I have seen him live many times over the years. Check out Eric's website.
kwassagirl 1 year ago 2
Such a beautiful song, sung with feeling so well.
my grampa was shot and badly wounded for life by the turks there, not their fault for defending their homeland but :
sad to see that nothing has changed except the weopanry.
dobella 1 year ago 2
I'm an Aussie (and for those who didn't pick it up it's an Aussie song, yeah, gets played on our memorial days and stuff), and hearing this in Shanes Irish accent is no shame whatsover, wonderful rendition
tosgem 1 year ago 57
@tosgem he's not Irish! He's from Kent....but yeah sounds great the way he sings it!
unplanedlayer 1 year ago
@unplanedlayer Ok, but in that case 1,000,000 Ulster Protestants aren't British - They're from Ireland
ZZKe7 1 year ago
@ZZKe7 forgive me but where is munster in ireland?
47dyl 1 year ago
@47dyl The southern quarter (approx) of Ireland is Munster
ZZKe7 1 year ago
@ZZKe7 fair enough. just saying he's from kent, was a geographical statement not a political one. but feel free rant on!
unplanedlayer 1 year ago
@unplanedlayer Making one point hardly constitutes a rant
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hanshotfirst1138 1 year ago
@tosgem I agree....
Msjmtg 1 year ago
@tosgem It's so sad and points out the futility of war.Makes me cry.
cunningsophie 10 months ago
Actually some wars are better to have been fought - WWII - or let the world be run by Nazis, the American revolutionary war and civil wars...
happy42xxx 10 months ago
@tosgem
21,255 killed. 52,300 wounded from the UK.
Australia 8,709 killed
Well fuck the rest of them
Look up the figures from the colonials, and remember this was a side show.
You aozzies aren't that great. More British soldiers were killed and wounded at Gallipolis. remember that.
roberts1966 8 months ago
@roberts1966
3 or 4 people from newzealand had their tea cups upset and the austalians and kiwis have been whining on about it ever since, which obviously shows a lack of perspective.
Or as we In the UK realise, they lack bottle and just aint up to it.
roberts1966 8 months ago
@roberts1966 yes, more British were killed and wounded. No one said that doesn't matter. Australia is a small country, small pop, and the troops we lost there was significant to us. Who said we were the best or the greatest? What do you expect us to do, not write any songs about our loss and forget it all? And before you go writing off the Anzacs and trying to devalue them, it wasn't their war, they obeyed their duty to fight for the British. Remember that.
tosgem 8 months ago 17
@tosgem They may not have been the best in WWI but they had WWII's best infantry, or at least that is what I heared
myers5797 6 months ago
@tosgem Well said. As a Limey I will always be grateful to our Commonwealth friends who stood up to the plate with us in two devastating World Wars. None of our sons died in vain, thankfully.
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@roberts1966
You are a fool. In proportion to total population Australia had the highest casulaty rates of any combatant nation in WWI.
gaiusscholasticus 8 months ago
@roberts1966
You are a fool. In proportion to total population, Asutralia had the highest casualty rates out of any comabatnt nation.
gaiusscholasticus 8 months ago
@roberts1966 ya.... 8,709 people killed. funny joke. dickhead
Rahavin1 8 months ago
Wars are fought by all types of countries. Don't try to pin it on capitalism. That's just stupid.
sHART1780 1 year ago
@sHART1780 Good justification, shart. Divert the thrust, intead of facing it head-on.
pbridge1300 1 year ago
brilliant cover
scoobydubeys 1 year ago
wow i didnt realize the pouges had a version of this song
dcdude171 1 year ago
what a brilliant song. So moving.
I first heard it sung by Mike Harding many years ago.
karatefella 1 year ago