lol tier lists are pretty correct. you have to realize your characters weakness. you "own" with lucas? you havent been in advanced fighting combos, techniques, no items, tournament conditions, chain grabs, etc. your character is bottom tier because of those. however, that bottom tier char can be great in friendly play between noobs. ganon is never better than falco or meta knight.
Just so everyone is aware, even the stupid, ignorant people who made up the tier list and put their favorite characters on the top love captain falcon. He is EVERYONE's favorite character. No one in the smash community dislikes CF in ANY of the 3 games, it doesn't change the fact that he's trash in Brawl.
The tier list isn't a concrete factor of who is going to win in any specific matchup. They're just a general list of a character's potential to win based on the current metagame and tournament results.
Just because you can beat your friends metaknight with captain falcon doesn't make falcon a good character. Most likely, neither of you are into the tourney scene, and therefore the tier list doesn't apply to you at all.
I personally hate tiers, but really the purpose of tiers is to show who wins tournaments more. It has nothing to do with hatred for one character or another, nothing to do with who prefers who, its just tourney results and what characters have a slight advantage over the other (if applicable) I main Olimar, Wario, Bowser, and Ice Climbers. Also, just because you practice more doesn't mean you'll win. You'll be better prepared, but the other person shouldn't be counted out immediately
Do you really think people are low on the tier list because they're different? It isn't even affected by people's opinions. If you're slightly higher on the list, it doesn't make you undefeatable, it just makes you harder to beat. I main Falcon and I think I know about the KNEE OF JUSTICE!
The tier list is not made by stupid, ignorant people. They don't just place their favorite characters at the top while leaving characters they "don't understand" at the bottom.
Have you ever thought, just for a second, that it's not the tier list creators who are ignorant, but yourselves?
None of these tactics are new. Also, what makes you think no one is using them? They ARE. The problem is that Captain Falcon is just BAD at it while Marth can handle it quite well. CF is a bad character, you using already widely used tactics will not change that.
your a really stupid person the tier lists change all the time but the game doesent so the tier list is always inacurate. and btw its not the tier list there are multipul from other players. when brawl first came out gannon was on the top of the list
The way people play the game competitively changes. Scrubs like you are to retarded to change the way you play the game.
The SBR tier lists are always accurate. The people who make them are much, much smarter than you and the people in this video and know infinitely more about smash.
all in all the tier list is crap for people not participateing in tourneys:
if your good at home then your not fighting other players so what you just said doesent count. if your ness or lucas your near the bottom but they are always shattering people during online play. its a
majority thing and its not perfect.
btw you already got one person who disagrees in 3 days other then me :/
If you're trying to make an argument, try not to sound so unsure of yourself. Plan out what needs to be said before recording and you will be more convincing.
To the video, tier lists are based on tourney results and character match-ups AT THE HIGHEST META-GAME CURRENTLY. Falcon gets raped in tourneys while MKs usually always place in the Top 8.
So your friend can beat your MK. You two aren't high-level players. To prove a character isn't Bottom Tier, you guys would have to go to a high-level tourney, and beat everybody really well. Until then, you're just claiming with no evidence.
Nice rant. I've personally given up on their silly little lists since discovering what their "logic" is for saying my personal favs being mid to bottom. One person in particular was insistant that I would lose regardless because of my character choice. It's absolutely ridiculious, makes a mockery of competitive players, and strips the fun from others. And all for the satisfaction of a few elitests. Hell, me and a friend of mine tested their "logic" and found many flaws. It's pointless.
Ignore the idiots who do not know what they are talking about and you will see that tier lists and match-up charts are completely logical. The makers of this video know nothing.
Actually, I have no problem with the tier list. My problem is mostly with the people who believe so deeply in the list that they assume that you'll lost regardless. Such as the one guy that insists I will lose regardless. I guess I came across as hating on the lists. But still, alot of the people who read it wrong, like the illogical elitests annoy me. Even worse is that when they don't admit they are wrong despite the obvious evidence.
You will not lose regardless. But at the highest level of play (and even just high levels), certain match-ups ARE as good as auto-losses. For one thing, Captain Falcon is just pure suck in Brawl. The makers of this video seem to not think that because "their friend" is really good as him. It's rather just them not being good enough to destroy him.
That's the kind of thing I'm talking about that is wrong with those who stand behind teir lists these days. People don't seam to realize that there is no "general teir list", but a teir list for a different area. Okay, those who entered national tournaments as Caption Falcon suck. Doesn't mean the character should be written off as crap.
Like wise, there's no such thing as an "auto loss match up".
There's no such thing as an area where Captain Falcon does not suck.
Certain match-ups ARE auto-losses. Certain characters DO suck. Nobody CARES if you know someone (or actually are that someone) who can beat certain other people as Captain Falcon. At the current highest levels of play, Captain Falcon is pure suck. He gets owned six ways to Tuesday. Donkey Kong will never win a tournament due to his auto-loss match-up against D3.
Yes, you can beat people if they're not very good! If they just do not know the game inside out and how to abuse their strengths vs. your weaknesses. Captain Falcon IS pure suck. His knee, while strong, is hard to sweetspot AND he just generally has very bad priority. His recovery sucks, it's one of the worst in the game. If your opponent cannot abuse this well enough and they aren't good enough with their character, you might win. if not, you lose. He's THAT bad.
His knee was nerfed, big deal. I've had many wins playing as Captain Falcon without using the knee. As for priority, does anyone who believes in the so called "auto loss" idea even know what gives an attack it's priority in a fighter. Priority is one of the first things I learn about a character when I start out and I see only a small handfull of poor priority in Captian Falcon.
I think everyone is saying he sucks only because he was nerfed in some areas.
If a so called pro Captain Falcon player is having troubles in Brawl compared to Melee, it's only because that player really hasn't learned the ins and outs of Captain Falcon. The moves I make use of with him were barely nerfed hard, so my play style wasn't hindered to much. It's only those who heavily use his knee and his Falcon Punch who have trouble. I'm sure if any of the other CF players got into a tournament, he wouldn't be so low on the Teirs.
Finally, if Captian Falcon is so low in the teirs, then why isn't Marth there with him. I found Marth to have worse priority than Captain Falcon. Yes, I've heard what people say about Marth doing infinite grabs on people. I also know how effective his B moves can be when used right. However, I have managed to get alot of wins against a Marth player simply because of the advantage through priority.
This whole thing of "CF sucks due to priority" is bull if his priority isn't even THE worst.
Priority isn't the only aspect to the game, that is true. However, it isn't a reason to classify CF as poor. Like I said, there is only a small handful of poor priority with CF.
I'll stand by what I said. When the teirs were decided, the only CF players present were poor players. They used situationals wrong, they only relied on poor priority moves, and rarely made use of his advantages.
And judging from your statement on Marth, I question your knowledge of what is or isn't priority.
Did I or did I not just say that priority is just ONE of CF's problems? No, there are plenty of good CF players around, Ally for one. They all agree he's garbage.
This is pure arrogance, assuming you know better than everyone who voted forth the tier list. I question your knowledge on what is and isn't priority since a disjointed hitbox is the ULTIMATE priority. Marth's priority is one of the best in the game. Ask anyone credible.
And I disagree that CF has a problem in priority. Those so called "pros" just don't know how to use him to his max potential. Until I see it with my own eyes, all tourney participated CF players suck. CF is bottom teir because tourney players that used him suck as him.
And Marth does not have the best priority in the game. If Marth has such great priority, then why does he have some big blind spots. Just because no Tourney player exploited them doesn't mean they don't exist.
Then YOU go to a tournament and place well as him. You also do not know what "priority" means if you don't think CF has bad priority whilst Maeth has bad priority.
If I can find where one is held and on a date I can participate, then I will go in and play. And I hope I do go against a "pro" Marth player to show how worse Marth's priority is compared to CF. Just hope tourney Marth players aren't as full of fail as current tourney CF players. That would make things too easy to prove my point.
Anyway, if you want to prove Falcon's worth, go to Smashboards and look out for a big tourney. Until then, what we know of Falcon is he sucks at high-levels of play...
Like I said, net comments won't prove anything. Only when I enter will I prove my statements.
Though, I do admit to one aspect that shows Marth's strength. Reach. His reach can give priority as well as make priority unimportant. However, I have a tactic that no Tourney player ever used that renders such an advantage miniscule. So the instant I negate Marth's reach is the instant I show his huge disadvantages, like poor priority.
Yes, what is your MAGICAL tactic which no one has apparently been able to figure out and replicate in 8 years of Melee and Brawl (since Marth had great range and priority in Melee as well)?
Melee Marth and Brawl Marth are completely different. I know of someone who is almost untouchable with Marth who said he's been toned down heavily in Brawl. I recall many times in melee where he stopped my assaults dead, but he had to struggle some in Brawl.
If you must know, a large part of my tactics involves the weaknesses of Brawl Marth that my friend revealed to me. As well as what is extremely threatening in Marth's arsenal. Sadly, noone listens when I mentioned them.
They are not "completely different". I specifically asked you your magical tactic to negate Brawl Marth's priority, which should work against Melee Marth as well, since they are both very high on priority. I never said they were the same.
Stop dancing around the bush. What exactly IS your magical anti-Marth tactic no single other player has, apparently, discovered?
Quit calling it magical. It's just a different means of fighting that is hard to understand.
The first tactic primarily involves evasion as an offensive means. Get close and stay close while striking at vulnerable spots. By being close, the advantage of reach is no longer a factor. Then either strike with a high priority move, hit a blind spot (which Marth is full of), or simply throw. However, I would do less throwing because that is one of the few advantages Marth maintains in Brawl.
The second tactic is hard to describe. It mostly uses recovery and the opponent's lag to strike, but at the same time taking in damage. While it sounds foolish, it has helped before. And in something like the Smash series, taking damage isn't so bad if you can maintain good recovery. And I am very good at recovering from ridiculious amounts of damage, so I can spend the risk.
The third tactic is strict kamekaze mixed up with pressure play. This one is self explanatory.
And the fourth tactic is counter attacks, which is also self explanatory.
When I go in, I'll cycle through these four tactics, omiting as needed. Rarely would I step out of the four and go into simpler tactics, like rushdown. However, if I need to, I will.
If a player is predictable, I'll stick to one part of the cycle until I need to change.
Well, out of curiosity I just read the Smash wiki on priority. I'm guessing your using that definition of priority, which is actually very different from other fighters and rather odd. I hope your not relieing on their definition of priority because they leave out a ton of factors of priority that many other fighting game players are aware of.
Because that is how priority works in Smash! The SSB-series' physics engine is very different from many other fighters. There's something called True Priority which seldom comes into play where weaker moves become overpowered by stronger moves (which is more like real priority), but that's very rare (and, incidentally, Marth's got high amounts of TP on his moves, as well). CF has both crappy Smash-priority and crappy True Priority.
That's very pecular. Though, I can see your point in a sence on how the physics will give different priorities as opposed to true priority. I still find it odd, since I've seen Smashes matchup with regular attacks that really shouldn't be matched in priority.
Go to a HIGH LEVEL tourny and win with Falcon. Beat the best players with Falcon. Until then, you have no proof that Falcon is better then bottom tier.
Sadly, that is true. Nothing can't be proven through net comments and videos alone.
I actually seen video of the current best CF players and was surprised by two things. One, the fact that there is good CF players (though I haven't seen any CF losses yet, :/). Two, the fact that the current best CF players has a tendency of becoming predictable and have some timing issues I've noticed. Perhaps CF's teir stat is due to CF players' predictability. Good thing I'm unpredictable.
lol tier lists are pretty correct. you have to realize your characters weakness. you "own" with lucas? you havent been in advanced fighting combos, techniques, no items, tournament conditions, chain grabs, etc. your character is bottom tier because of those. however, that bottom tier char can be great in friendly play between noobs. ganon is never better than falco or meta knight.
Kyuutoryuu 2 years ago
Tier list=Big useless crap.
JulienfandeWaluigi 2 years ago
Just so everyone is aware, even the stupid, ignorant people who made up the tier list and put their favorite characters on the top love captain falcon. He is EVERYONE's favorite character. No one in the smash community dislikes CF in ANY of the 3 games, it doesn't change the fact that he's trash in Brawl.
ThePinkReaper 2 years ago 2
fag
gyro4268 2 years ago
This video is lolzy.
The tier list isn't a concrete factor of who is going to win in any specific matchup. They're just a general list of a character's potential to win based on the current metagame and tournament results.
Just because you can beat your friends metaknight with captain falcon doesn't make falcon a good character. Most likely, neither of you are into the tourney scene, and therefore the tier list doesn't apply to you at all.
RedtheGhost 2 years ago 5
I know. Thank you for trying to educate these people. TR4Q=being ignorant.
Do some research people. Tiers exist, deal with it.
supaman102 2 years ago
I personally hate tiers, but really the purpose of tiers is to show who wins tournaments more. It has nothing to do with hatred for one character or another, nothing to do with who prefers who, its just tourney results and what characters have a slight advantage over the other (if applicable) I main Olimar, Wario, Bowser, and Ice Climbers. Also, just because you practice more doesn't mean you'll win. You'll be better prepared, but the other person shouldn't be counted out immediately
DaMoose06 3 years ago
i just noticed... THE NEWCOMERS OF BRAWL ARE AT LOW AND BOTTOM AND I OWN WITH LUCAS O_O
robot8664 3 years ago
Might want to learn your script before uploading it because all I am hearing is a lot of "uuhs" and pauses.
Oh, and tiers are for queers.
ShadowKnight246 3 years ago
Do you really think people are low on the tier list because they're different? It isn't even affected by people's opinions. If you're slightly higher on the list, it doesn't make you undefeatable, it just makes you harder to beat. I main Falcon and I think I know about the KNEE OF JUSTICE!
Thanks, you brought some humour to my day.
CloneHat 3 years ago
captain falcon is good but all his moves got weakned so he went down metaknight i hate him he has no smash moves u can never kill anybody
thelapointe 3 years ago
The tier list is not made by stupid, ignorant people. They don't just place their favorite characters at the top while leaving characters they "don't understand" at the bottom.
Have you ever thought, just for a second, that it's not the tier list creators who are ignorant, but yourselves?
JingoJoe14 3 years ago
None of these tactics are new. Also, what makes you think no one is using them? They ARE. The problem is that Captain Falcon is just BAD at it while Marth can handle it quite well. CF is a bad character, you using already widely used tactics will not change that.
FallenAngelIII 3 years ago
Lol scrubs
Captain falcon is awful. You probably both suck. Sorry
Tier list means if two people of equal skill levels play each other, whoever picks the higher tier character will probably win.
1w2ngedangel 3 years ago
your a really stupid person the tier lists change all the time but the game doesent so the tier list is always inacurate. and btw its not the tier list there are multipul from other players. when brawl first came out gannon was on the top of the list
sasuke2277 3 years ago
The way people play the game competitively changes. Scrubs like you are to retarded to change the way you play the game.
The SBR tier lists are always accurate. The people who make them are much, much smarter than you and the people in this video and know infinitely more about smash.
1w2ngedangel 3 years ago
all in all the tier list is crap for people not participateing in tourneys:
if your good at home then your not fighting other players so what you just said doesent count. if your ness or lucas your near the bottom but they are always shattering people during online play. its a
majority thing and its not perfect.
btw you already got one person who disagrees in 3 days other then me :/
sasuke2277 3 years ago
It still makes sense, besides, if ness lucas are good online, it just means that the good people used him.
1w2ngedangel 3 years ago
i understand that good people used them. im just mad people are judging how good you are by what character you use right up to bat.
sasuke2277 3 years ago
Actually no one does that.
Except for crappy scrubs.
1w2ngedangel 3 years ago
look in the mirror, 4 comments up
sasuke2277 3 years ago
Wow I didn't judge their skill at all because of the fact that they played captain falcon. I judged them because they said really stupid stuff.
1w2ngedangel 3 years ago
ok sorry for missjudgeing you
sasuke2277 3 years ago
If you're trying to make an argument, try not to sound so unsure of yourself. Plan out what needs to be said before recording and you will be more convincing.
Anyways, I agree with you guys.
CaptainAndrew1991 3 years ago
Sometimes you hit him with an attack and he flies, umm, way off the screen? I never noticed that!
CloneHat 3 years ago
To the video, tier lists are based on tourney results and character match-ups AT THE HIGHEST META-GAME CURRENTLY. Falcon gets raped in tourneys while MKs usually always place in the Top 8.
So your friend can beat your MK. You two aren't high-level players. To prove a character isn't Bottom Tier, you guys would have to go to a high-level tourney, and beat everybody really well. Until then, you're just claiming with no evidence.
metaXzero 3 years ago
Nice rant. I've personally given up on their silly little lists since discovering what their "logic" is for saying my personal favs being mid to bottom. One person in particular was insistant that I would lose regardless because of my character choice. It's absolutely ridiculious, makes a mockery of competitive players, and strips the fun from others. And all for the satisfaction of a few elitests. Hell, me and a friend of mine tested their "logic" and found many flaws. It's pointless.
laughingfurry 3 years ago
Ignore the idiots who do not know what they are talking about and you will see that tier lists and match-up charts are completely logical. The makers of this video know nothing.
FallenAngelIII 3 years ago
Actually, I have no problem with the tier list. My problem is mostly with the people who believe so deeply in the list that they assume that you'll lost regardless. Such as the one guy that insists I will lose regardless. I guess I came across as hating on the lists. But still, alot of the people who read it wrong, like the illogical elitests annoy me. Even worse is that when they don't admit they are wrong despite the obvious evidence.
laughingfurry 3 years ago
You will not lose regardless. But at the highest level of play (and even just high levels), certain match-ups ARE as good as auto-losses. For one thing, Captain Falcon is just pure suck in Brawl. The makers of this video seem to not think that because "their friend" is really good as him. It's rather just them not being good enough to destroy him.
FallenAngelIII 3 years ago
"certain match-ups ARE as good as auto-losses"
"Captain Falcon is just pure suck in Brawl"
That's the kind of thing I'm talking about that is wrong with those who stand behind teir lists these days. People don't seam to realize that there is no "general teir list", but a teir list for a different area. Okay, those who entered national tournaments as Caption Falcon suck. Doesn't mean the character should be written off as crap.
Like wise, there's no such thing as an "auto loss match up".
laughingfurry 3 years ago
There's no such thing as an area where Captain Falcon does not suck.
Certain match-ups ARE auto-losses. Certain characters DO suck. Nobody CARES if you know someone (or actually are that someone) who can beat certain other people as Captain Falcon. At the current highest levels of play, Captain Falcon is pure suck. He gets owned six ways to Tuesday. Donkey Kong will never win a tournament due to his auto-loss match-up against D3.
FallenAngelIII 3 years ago
Yes, you can beat people if they're not very good! If they just do not know the game inside out and how to abuse their strengths vs. your weaknesses. Captain Falcon IS pure suck. His knee, while strong, is hard to sweetspot AND he just generally has very bad priority. His recovery sucks, it's one of the worst in the game. If your opponent cannot abuse this well enough and they aren't good enough with their character, you might win. if not, you lose. He's THAT bad.
FallenAngelIII 3 years ago
His knee was nerfed, big deal. I've had many wins playing as Captain Falcon without using the knee. As for priority, does anyone who believes in the so called "auto loss" idea even know what gives an attack it's priority in a fighter. Priority is one of the first things I learn about a character when I start out and I see only a small handfull of poor priority in Captian Falcon.
I think everyone is saying he sucks only because he was nerfed in some areas.
laughingfurry 3 years ago
Continuing...
If a so called pro Captain Falcon player is having troubles in Brawl compared to Melee, it's only because that player really hasn't learned the ins and outs of Captain Falcon. The moves I make use of with him were barely nerfed hard, so my play style wasn't hindered to much. It's only those who heavily use his knee and his Falcon Punch who have trouble. I'm sure if any of the other CF players got into a tournament, he wouldn't be so low on the Teirs.
laughingfurry 3 years ago
Finally, if Captian Falcon is so low in the teirs, then why isn't Marth there with him. I found Marth to have worse priority than Captain Falcon. Yes, I've heard what people say about Marth doing infinite grabs on people. I also know how effective his B moves can be when used right. However, I have managed to get alot of wins against a Marth player simply because of the advantage through priority.
This whole thing of "CF sucks due to priority" is bull if his priority isn't even THE worst.
laughingfurry 3 years ago
1) Priority is not EVERYTHING. It's just another nail in CF's coffin since he has almost NOTHING.
2) Marth has one of the BEST priorities in the game. It is called his SWORD.
FallenAngelIII 3 years ago
Priority isn't the only aspect to the game, that is true. However, it isn't a reason to classify CF as poor. Like I said, there is only a small handful of poor priority with CF.
I'll stand by what I said. When the teirs were decided, the only CF players present were poor players. They used situationals wrong, they only relied on poor priority moves, and rarely made use of his advantages.
And judging from your statement on Marth, I question your knowledge of what is or isn't priority.
laughingfurry 3 years ago
Did I or did I not just say that priority is just ONE of CF's problems? No, there are plenty of good CF players around, Ally for one. They all agree he's garbage.
This is pure arrogance, assuming you know better than everyone who voted forth the tier list. I question your knowledge on what is and isn't priority since a disjointed hitbox is the ULTIMATE priority. Marth's priority is one of the best in the game. Ask anyone credible.
FallenAngelIII 3 years ago
And I disagree that CF has a problem in priority. Those so called "pros" just don't know how to use him to his max potential. Until I see it with my own eyes, all tourney participated CF players suck. CF is bottom teir because tourney players that used him suck as him.
And Marth does not have the best priority in the game. If Marth has such great priority, then why does he have some big blind spots. Just because no Tourney player exploited them doesn't mean they don't exist.
laughingfurry 3 years ago
Then YOU go to a tournament and place well as him. You also do not know what "priority" means if you don't think CF has bad priority whilst Maeth has bad priority.
FallenAngelIII 3 years ago
If I can find where one is held and on a date I can participate, then I will go in and play. And I hope I do go against a "pro" Marth player to show how worse Marth's priority is compared to CF. Just hope tourney Marth players aren't as full of fail as current tourney CF players. That would make things too easy to prove my point.
laughingfurry 3 years ago
Aack! Didn't see your name laughingfurry.
Anyway, if you want to prove Falcon's worth, go to Smashboards and look out for a big tourney. Until then, what we know of Falcon is he sucks at high-levels of play...
metaXzero 3 years ago
I want to hear what you base "Marth has worse priority than CF" on. Do you even know what priority is?
FallenAngelIII 3 years ago
Like I said, net comments won't prove anything. Only when I enter will I prove my statements.
Though, I do admit to one aspect that shows Marth's strength. Reach. His reach can give priority as well as make priority unimportant. However, I have a tactic that no Tourney player ever used that renders such an advantage miniscule. So the instant I negate Marth's reach is the instant I show his huge disadvantages, like poor priority.
laughingfurry 3 years ago
Yes, what is your MAGICAL tactic which no one has apparently been able to figure out and replicate in 8 years of Melee and Brawl (since Marth had great range and priority in Melee as well)?
FallenAngelIII 3 years ago
Melee Marth and Brawl Marth are completely different. I know of someone who is almost untouchable with Marth who said he's been toned down heavily in Brawl. I recall many times in melee where he stopped my assaults dead, but he had to struggle some in Brawl.
If you must know, a large part of my tactics involves the weaknesses of Brawl Marth that my friend revealed to me. As well as what is extremely threatening in Marth's arsenal. Sadly, noone listens when I mentioned them.
laughingfurry 3 years ago
They are not "completely different". I specifically asked you your magical tactic to negate Brawl Marth's priority, which should work against Melee Marth as well, since they are both very high on priority. I never said they were the same.
Stop dancing around the bush. What exactly IS your magical anti-Marth tactic no single other player has, apparently, discovered?
FallenAngelIII 3 years ago
Quit calling it magical. It's just a different means of fighting that is hard to understand.
The first tactic primarily involves evasion as an offensive means. Get close and stay close while striking at vulnerable spots. By being close, the advantage of reach is no longer a factor. Then either strike with a high priority move, hit a blind spot (which Marth is full of), or simply throw. However, I would do less throwing because that is one of the few advantages Marth maintains in Brawl.
laughingfurry 3 years ago
The second tactic is hard to describe. It mostly uses recovery and the opponent's lag to strike, but at the same time taking in damage. While it sounds foolish, it has helped before. And in something like the Smash series, taking damage isn't so bad if you can maintain good recovery. And I am very good at recovering from ridiculious amounts of damage, so I can spend the risk.
laughingfurry 3 years ago
The third tactic is strict kamekaze mixed up with pressure play. This one is self explanatory.
And the fourth tactic is counter attacks, which is also self explanatory.
When I go in, I'll cycle through these four tactics, omiting as needed. Rarely would I step out of the four and go into simpler tactics, like rushdown. However, if I need to, I will.
If a player is predictable, I'll stick to one part of the cycle until I need to change.
laughingfurry 3 years ago
Well, out of curiosity I just read the Smash wiki on priority. I'm guessing your using that definition of priority, which is actually very different from other fighters and rather odd. I hope your not relieing on their definition of priority because they leave out a ton of factors of priority that many other fighting game players are aware of.
laughingfurry 3 years ago
Because that is how priority works in Smash! The SSB-series' physics engine is very different from many other fighters. There's something called True Priority which seldom comes into play where weaker moves become overpowered by stronger moves (which is more like real priority), but that's very rare (and, incidentally, Marth's got high amounts of TP on his moves, as well). CF has both crappy Smash-priority and crappy True Priority.
FallenAngelIII 3 years ago
That's very pecular. Though, I can see your point in a sence on how the physics will give different priorities as opposed to true priority. I still find it odd, since I've seen Smashes matchup with regular attacks that really shouldn't be matched in priority.
laughingfurry 3 years ago
Go to a HIGH LEVEL tourny and win with Falcon. Beat the best players with Falcon. Until then, you have no proof that Falcon is better then bottom tier.
metaXzero 3 years ago
Sadly, that is true. Nothing can't be proven through net comments and videos alone.
I actually seen video of the current best CF players and was surprised by two things. One, the fact that there is good CF players (though I haven't seen any CF losses yet, :/). Two, the fact that the current best CF players has a tendency of becoming predictable and have some timing issues I've noticed. Perhaps CF's teir stat is due to CF players' predictability. Good thing I'm unpredictable.
laughingfurry 3 years ago