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  • Right on, spread the word

  • Thats funny cas the UK has the NHS (National Health Service) for just coming up to 60 years now and were one of the worlds leading economy's. Do you know what would happen to the party that tried to take our healthcare away from us, they would be burned at the stake on the grounds of parliament.

  • A Government Option regarding health care is very bad for Americans because all roads lead to Socialized medical system. Obama supports a "Single Payer System" like they have in Canada, the health care in Canada is sub par and imploding says top Canadian health care officials. If you want to give all Americans HC you will need to make Insurance companies compete state to state you will need tort reform to stop frivolous lawsuits against Docs that will drop HC costs dramatically. NO GOVERNMENT OP

  • #welove theNHS

  • You won't here the dems breath a word of truth because power is the cure. They want to control the masses, Teddy Roosevelt first proposed national health insurance in 1912, FDR proposed it again in the 1930s. Harry Truman proposed it again in the 1940s. They've been waiting along time for this progressive power holy grail issue, healthcare is the way to pure Socialism, Reagan was warning of this as far back as the 60s.

  • Norwegians like their healthcare and don't mind paying 100% taxes on certain things. But part of that is because we have a private sector as well. Forcing people onto the public option is the wrong way to go.

  • Great video. Question: has anyone even bothered to take a look at why the cost of health care is rising? Think about it: in many fields, the cost of products decrease or remain stable even as those products become more complex. Years ago I dropped hundreds for an NES, years later for a much superior Xbox 360, I spent roughly the same amount. So what is the deal with health care? Do research and decide for yourself!

  • Your video is one of the first about this topic that I have seen without angry people throwing a fit in the comment section. That must mean you've done something right, keep it up! :D

  • Saldy, fair maount have (about 50-50) is angry, it just most of the angry ones have threats and very disturbing comments too.

    If you want to disagree with what I say, thats fine, just do it in a respectful manner.

  • Really? Norway taxes gas and cars to pay for health care? You mean they address the problem of health care funding and discouraging greenhouse gas pollution in one shot? Sounds like they are killing two birds with one stone! Lets do it!

  • What would be a much better system would be practicing the use of MSA accounts. The deductibles are high, but you will have enough money to pay for the small stuff and if you get something serious or need a specialist, you're completely covered. It's not perfect, but it's a step in the right direction.

  • its pretty rare for someone of this kids age to be interested in "health care issues". Most young people couldn't care less because serious health issues and 30 years away for them

  • I've had a fair amount of medical issues in my short life so far..it's and important issue to me, I'm fine now but that wasn't always the case for me

  • You know, I've been seeing a big difference, myself. When I was a teen in the 80s, I didn't watch the news, I didn't care. Yet, with my kids, I was amazed how interested they are in what's going on. Then again, as a teen I wasn't in a recession, and we had jobs galore. I think this generation is seeing how what's happening now can affect their lives, as well.

  • france and norway aren't the only countries, so do some more research

    i'm from the uk and if we were stripped of the nhs there would be a revolt

    we see free health care as a right rather than a privilege

  • EU is gaining control over the entire world politically and financially. its a bad thing for people who do not make lots of money or businesses who can't compete with the free market. its a good thing for others yet. there's many perspectives and a lot of the issues of today can be understood with a big picture perspective. i agree that its bigger than two countries.

  • Wow I was really impressed by you're anlaysis of UNHC, but then you endorsed Guliany. Ohh well nobodies perfect. Ron Paul?

  • Thanks, no I did not endorse Rudy for president, but I did like his plan, for healthcare.

    Ron Paul I liked (especially now with this economy, may have been best with current circumstances) however I do not like his complete isolationist stance on Foreign Policy, cut major funding outside of US yes, but almost becoming isolationists, no.

    On GOP side, I liked at least one viewpoint/quality of each candidate, but none really to "endorse" someone in the primaries.

  • I dont agree with Paul on everyting, but I dont think its intelectually honest to call his stance isolantionist. Isolation mandates to totally cut off all contact. Paul wants the government to not be involved over seas, but he does want americans to be overseas engaging in free trade (not isolated). Saying he is isolationist because he doesnt want the government overseas is similar to a socialist saying your agianst all health care because you dont want the government running it.

  • @CRENpolitics hold on Ron Paul is not claiming any such 'isolationist' policy- quite the opposite. He is saying just abide by the constituion!

    Mind your own buisiness & stop trying to police the world, killing civilians & managing an overextended empire. He promotes free trade- that is hardly isolationism like traditional feudal japan. This is called making peace not war- theres no reason to be in iraq or afghanistan. its quite silly- makin huge bases in mid-east while closing bases in the US

  • Many good points. Question... you said that 20 million americans without insurance are just switching plans. Does that mean that you constantly have 20 million ppl in limbo? So... still a problem right? I live in Canada... As u know we have universal health care. I have never had a problem with the system, treatment, or taxes, nor have I ever heard any complaints from fellow citizens. Here it is a non issue. Yet in the US it is widely debated... because ppl are unhappy.

  • Its good to see some young people that don't just believe what they hear on TV and actually research stuff for themselves. Good videos I hope more people see them.

  • Well done....remember nothing is free.

  • I'm so impressed with your clarification on the issue of Universal Health Care. It is a shame that you are not old enough to run for President, I feel you would easily trump Barack Obama in regards to his promoting the Pro-Universal Health care stance. You give me hope that our country is not just full of liberal socialists. :)

  • Good job, your are truly a great american. I hope u run for president when u get old enough

  • This kid is what gives me hope for the future of this nation.

  • Universal healthcare equals thrid world country health care. Taxes sky rocket and the US health care system falls. A new Great depression starts. Looking at Obama's plan from an economic stand point is like looking at France right now.

  • Dude, you are one smart cookie.  Keep doing what you're doing.

    Later

  • This kid gets it and our congress/senate doesn't?? Something tells me that our government DOES get it, but WANTS us to NEED them.

    Thanks for the video clip. Very well stated.

  • they won't be wasting on all the money that is currently being spent on all the diseases cigarette smoking causes! Raise the prices to $50 per pack. The costs saved would greatly outweigh the revenue generated from the taxes.

  • So what if everyone has universal health insurance? I have health insurance now and STILL dread going to the doctor because I know I'll have to pay a lot more than I expect. Premiums are going up insurance companies are paying for LESS. Washington may get everyone an insurance policy (the ins. industry is rubbing their palms together at the thought of more premiums) but who in the HELL will make the insurance company pay when you get SICK??????? No one. THAT IS THE REAL PROBLEM!!!

  • I still have a problem with the Government regulating/influencing health care in the country. The fact of the matter is that it isn't the gov's responsibility. It certainly isn't in the President's power. How about we all look at the constitution and see exactly what the President's purpose is, and what (16) things he's allowed to do... Health Care? Environment? Jobs? People need to ask not what they are going to do, but if they are allowed to do it...

  • The President (Nixon) signed the bill to get the HMO's started.

  • Is it true that the equivalent of the population of a large European country can't get health care in the US? All the TV shows soap based in hospitals for example seem to emphasise that desperate state of affairs.

    Is it all just scriptwriting and nonsense?

    When the poster speaks about taxes is he including education and health costs in the US? For the US seems to be based on the Indian model where all the doctors are free tocome to Europe and all the poverty stricken are free to die of TB.

  • you might have to pay something for healthcare in Norway, but not fill price. you pay your taxes to the goverment, and the goverment pays for you when you are sick, old or don't have a job.

  • Well hl6554, that DOES sound pretty nice, but

    1. Norway is one of the richest country in the world (per capita of course).

    2. Not every country gets lucky enough to have a tiny population sitting on one of the largest reserves of oil on the planet.

    Take away the oil revenue and you'd have to pay double your taxes to afford those generous social programs. Good for Norway for making it work for you, but to compare the US to Norway for social programs just doesn't make sense.

  • Well i live in Finland wich is pretty close to norway, we dont have oil but we dont pay huge taxes either

  • In Britain Margaret Thatcher sold off all the public companies that could not possibly have come about in a private industrial scheme and now we are reaping the reward of that.

    Utilities need a common public trust funding to stop asset strippers selling off necessary utilities. When they get rid of unecessary overheads things get tighter but when disaster strikes their is no recovery.

    What M Thatcher overlooked is that in bad times private business goes bust. And that's the end of their cares.

  • I dont understand why you portrait Norway as a bad case for universal HC? Sure we pay a lot of taxes, but our wages are high too.

    There is almost no poverty and there is a good social care program. And yes we have our own social problems, but like me and many other norwegians we are glad that the state can procure a good HC and education for all norwegians.

  • You only have high wages because of Oil.

    Here in America it's also due to our Natural Resources.

  • I agree, Universal HC is not the answer. Once you become involved as a HC professional, you will have some insider information. The first thing I would do would be give all physicians a tax write-off for seeing & treating indigent patients. Next, there would be tort reform. Maybe offer the physicians universal Malpractice insurance. LOL Yeah, like that would ever happen! There are many more great ideas without charging everyone 15,000 a year.

  • Hi, I am amazed at your knowledge about Norway and the current situation over here! Do you have any connection with Norway? Everything you say about universal health care in Norway is true, I myself am a local politician in the Norwegian Progress Party. Are you a member of the Republican party or do you need to be 18? I'm 18, we're entitled to be quite young to join a pol. party in Norway.

    Norwegians, or for that case Europeans, are too uncritical, and they totally buy all Michael Moore says.

  • No, I don't have any connection with Norway. You have to be 18 to be officially registered in a political party and to vote. In order to run to be a representative you have to be 25, and live for 7 years (also being a citizen) in the U.S.

  • the clip, as most supporting comments, is very stupid! by discovering that universial health care systems arent paradise (as may be described in sicko) you conclude that it must be hell.

    i'd give you credit for actually bringing up SOME numbers & facts but they only lead you to half truths and some BS. how you conclude that hospitals quality ll decline through universal health care?

    and if everyone is doing so well with privatized health care - why you got this big discussion then?

  • Huh? Uncritical and buy all Michael Moore says? Actually living in the countries that Moore pretends are perfect utopias is more likely to make you think he's full of shit. It's whiny American "liberals" (what the fuck does this word even MEAN in the U.S.?) who threaten to "move to Canada" (where I live) at every election, who worship Michael Moore.

  • it's so refreshing to hear someone who actually knows their fucking facts on how terrible nationalized health care would be. michael moore has sucessfully influenced the SHEEP of this country. good job, moore, you propagadist

  • I have yet to hear Barack Obama claim that universal health was the answer. On several ocaisons he has said that he would like to put insurance companies in position to deny less people coverage. That seems to be what hurts common Americans and health care.  His concept of treatment instead ER is also solid. Therefore how can Guliani be our savior for healthcare. It would seem Obama is in touch with real problems and solutions.

  • Hey bro. Thanks for the rundown on health care. I like your comparisons. But you know what Guliani is not telling you? The gov't expanded it's budget by more than 30% in the last 7 years. Income tax paid by all americans is 30% of the government budget. What does that mean? We could shut down the IRS and the gov't could keep rolling along (on credit anyway). So with Guliani 'lowering taxes,' he's just giving you back money we don't need anyway.

  • That was quite informative although I was aware of most of it, I hope other people were able to get an idea of how crappy universal healthcare is.

    It's hard to believe the guy who says he's from Canada and that the system is fine, I know a woman who lives in Canada but travels here for her healthcare needs because she cannot get treated in time. Our healthcare system is not perfect and I think it definitely needs some work, but to trash it for the universal system is a horrid idea...

  • your on the ball son looking forward to the next food for thought video.

  • I'm from Canada, and health care can be universal, a relativly new idea in a democracy. Corporate America non caring to make more money. or unify both together and ppl with money can go into privatized healthcare while the less fortunate can still be treated, but as a country you can NEVER!!! deny some one medical treatment, if they die it's murder!!!!

  • In america, it is illegal for hospitals to deny medical care when people enter the emergency room (even if they just have the common cold) There has never been a case where someone has walked into the emergency room and have been denied treatment in the USA.

  • On the mexican boarder many hospitals are shutting down because they can't keep affording treating patients walking into the emergency room. On the canadian boarder some hospitals are shutting down because pregnant mothers are coming to America to give birth to their child, even politicians have crossed the boarder and walked into the ER to get immediate medial treatment.

  • Im british we have universal healthcare its great

  • You also have more taxes than we do.

  • Do you know the definition politician? Wend you understand that definition and you lived you going to be a politician.

  • Im from norway and i pay 46% of my income in tax + all the extra hidden taxes. And to be honest i would have it no other way. I pride myself in the fact that part of my income is used in the social welfare program. And that im part of helping people worse of than me to get help and to get the ressourses needed to live a happy and degnified life. Its good that we spend huge amounts of money to do good. But we do have problems too its not the utopia Michael more portrais in sicko.

  • I agree with some of those points you made about Norway: we do have higher taxes than most of you, stuff is more expensive, and if we don't have a chronic disease and aren't poor we have to pay a small fee for doctor's appointments ($30). But you have forgotten one thing: We make a lot more money than you do! Hell, I get paid $8000 a year just for being a student - and that's tax free :)

  • It's not tax free-it's taz money!! Someone else worked hard to earn $8000 and instead of spending it on his children, his family, his aging parents, he gave it to YOU!

  • If you stand with me on guns, gay marriage,  abortion and the rest of the economy... Crenpolitics for President, what say 2028?

  • Very good video. You did you're homework!

    I agree with all you say. The only thing I don't like is Guilaini. He is a member with CFR/NAU. How scarey id that?

  • If higher taxes are ruining Norway, why is it number one on the UN Human Development Index, and has been so for the last 5 years. If you are making 100 grand a year in Norway, and your paying 35% of it for free medicine (among many things), your only paying 35 thousand for complete medical coverage, as well as undergraduate, graduate and medical schooling. If you cannot afford to go to school for free, they will give you a generous living stipend effectively paying you to go to school.

  • Comment on the $50 tax on a pack of cigarettes:

    I think it is a good idea when it comes to Universal Healthcare. If people smoke, they will develop all kinds of illnesses including lung cancer. Those are the people that need to pay higher taxes in order for Universal healthcare to work, because when they get lung cancer, they will seek treatment. If they stop smoking, there would be less people sick from lung cancer etc. and that would reduce the spending on healthcare.

  • Monkeydert, while I agree persons at higher risk habits need to pay higher premiums in different forms, we need not to simply discriminate against smokers, rather those that eat junk food, have poor diets, ect.., are at higher risk and cost more than smokers, ie...Obesity, diabetes, all leading to heart disease, the number one killer. So we also need a fat tax as well. Same case can be made for sexual behavior problems as well, higher risk.

  • Well as far as taxes goes, I'm really unhappy that so much gets taken from my checks each pay period yet I get really nothing out of it but the streets they build. I still have to pay $100 monthly premium for health insurance through my employer plus cost of Rx and co-pays. I would rather pay higher taxes and recieve the benefit than not. I don't think taxes are going to sky rocket if doctors practice preventative care.

  • What about Ron Paul, he supports a free market solution unlike most candidates he actually is a doctor, wouldn't you think he knows healthcare being a doctor?

  • He knows how to make profit for himself;-)

  • Hes a corrupted doctor yes, handsomly paid of by both pfizer and bluecross...

  • We spend more on health care than Norway or France.

  • its true because of our ridiculous welfare state, one look at welfare will show anyone that socialized system dont work.

  • good job

  • i wouldnt trust those sources, 45 million seems like a reasonable number for the amount of people who are uninsured for healthcare... their are millions of people in the united states who make minimum wage and have trouble surviving. speaking of minimun wage u might want to discuss it and talk about how it needs to be raised-andrew

  • It is a big number but not 45 million, it's closer to 30 million, still big but not 45 million. At least 9.5 million are illegal immigrants, why should we ensure them too?

  • also forgot to mention that if we switched to universal healthcare that our sales tax will become 19.5% to pay for Universal Healthcare

  • How much of our taxes go towards our out of proportion military industry?

  • That is correct CRENpolitics, as I travel extensively to Europe and have many friends there over the years, they also fail to mention if you have cancer (for example) Americans can forget taking their child to St. Jude as you will be forced to see your local Dr. and treatment center, unless you wish to face governmental penalties, kicked off the program and in some cases not treated at all. Someone failed to mention that part as well.

  • Christian, you have clearly illustrated how statistics are used to support unfounded facts. You are correct. Universal health care will cost far more than the politicians admit to. SrRepublican

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