daughter tells you that house select committee on assassinations is looking for you and want you to testify and re-live the ordeal from 14 years ago. I think he just had enough and wanted out especially given his erratic behavior, deteriorating mental state, and previos suicide attempts in the months prior. Sure, de Mohrenschildt was a hustler and a shady businessman/geologist who knows a lot of people (Jackie Kennedy, George HW Bush, oil tycoons, admirals) but he wasn't Oswald's "babysitter".
reputation, constantly stalked by secret service, betrayal by friends, and infused with guilt that he should had defended his friend Oswald more vigorously during the Warren commission whom he believed to be innocent (I'm not so sure of Oswald's innocence given his possible violent attempt against General Walker). It must have taken an emotional toil on him. When guys like Oltmans and Epstein keep trying to put words in your mouth to make you seem like Oswald's CIA handler. You go home and your
de Mohrenshildt was in Haiti when JFK was murdered when all of the major players were allegedly in Dallas. Conspiracy theorists like to say that de Mohrenshildt was murdered in 1977 and silenced but I don't buy it. There is no doubt in my mind that he killed himself. He just wasn't that important. He had been talking in all those intervening years and could had been silenced a long time ago. There were multiple people in the house. And put yourself in his position, you lost your business
Sure he knew the rich and powerful but given by the track record and personality of his and his wife (free spirited liberal) it was not that far fetched that they took an innocent interest in Oswald. Plus de Mohrenschildt was fairly active in the Russian community in Dallas at the time even before Oswald entered the picture. Both Oswald and de Mohrenschildt were probably framed. They seemed naive and stupid. If Oswald really did assassinate JFK, his target was most likely Connolly who he hated.
I tend to agree with De Mohrenschildt's manuscript that he and Oswald's relationship was genuine. As a well-connected businessman, it wasn't unusual for de Mohrenschildt to know CIA people to get stuff done in the business world in corrupt foreign countries and in exchange do favors for CIA (he was a self proclaimed hustler in his younger days) but I don't think he was a CIA agent. He was also not that rich and once travelled to central america with his wife by foot right before he met Oswald
Conspiracy is like a bad piece of sausage, the more you chew it, the bigger it gets. There is not and never has been produced one single shred of evidence of a second shooter in Dealey Plaza. No Photos, Film, Ballistics or one single shred of Medical Evidence to indicate that anyone other that Lee Harvey Oswald killed Kennedy. Don't give me that back and to the left sh*t either. GRAVITY. "Body falls backward when the Brains hit the fan." Period.
@BlueWolfe38Asshole No photos, film, ballistics or one single shred of medical evidence indicates Oswald had any guns or killed anyone. Absolutely none. What is proven, is that the FBI (Hoover) did change the witness testimony's to support the WC lies.
@jacobji5 Please provide me with your solid evidence to support your statements. I have no need of what you "think" or what you "believe". The physical evidence for this case is available online if you visit the National Archives. If you are in possession of better physical evidence than this, perhaps YOU are part of a conspiracy, and should be investigated. You folks are ALWAYS brimming with Theory, but embarassingly short of any evidence to substantiate your ever growing delusional fantasies.
@BlueWolfe38 Since the "physical evidence" in the Natl. Archives is phony, a visit there is worthless.
Video: Proof the FBI LIED in their JFK Assassination Reports
Who knows how many more witness statements have been purposely changed by the J Edgar Hoover criminals. The FBI conspired to cover up the assignation, before and after the fact. The FBI created the evidence.
@jacobji5 John F. Kennedy was in fact, J. Edgar Hoover's favorite President. Hoover had enough on JFK sexually to endure 16 years of the Kennedy brothers. Oswald was a Marxist. A radical. He was making babies with the KGB's step daughter. Oswald had the means, the motive, and the opportunity to kill the President. Some related evidence had to be withheld, and National Security was a more than sufficient reason. Or would you have prefered a very concievable nuclear exchange?
@jacobji5 How do you know that the evidence in the National Archives is phony and worthless? Who told you that? You have to look at this case within the context of what was going on in the World at the time. One of the greatest lies that young people in this country have been told is that our Government wanted war and murdered the President to have it. Where is the evidence FOR conspiracy after 48 years. No one on any of these forums has produced it for me.
@jacobji5 De Mohrenschildt speaks for himself in this video. That is evidence. What this Oltmans faggot claims after De Mohrenschildt's death only indicates the Oltmans is a liar. Oswald was a delusional Marxist who had the means, the motive, and the opportunity to assassinate the President independent of any conspiracy. These facts are supported by physical evidence retained by the National Archives. Absolutely nothing supports the Oltmans claim other than his apparent gift for sensationalism.
@BlueWolfe38Asshole There is no evidence on Oswald. DPD Chief Jesse Curry already said before he died, "Nobody's yet been able to put him in the building with a gun in his hand".
All of the doctors at Parkland say the rear hole in the head is an exit hole.
Hoover & LBJ are on tape saying THEY, referring to multiple assassins.
Ruby is on video saying the conspirators will never let out the truth.
Witnesses say Greer shot JFK.
So you have no facts, other than Oltman is a liar.
@jacobji5 I am quite aware of Curry's statements and I agree with his sentiments. I disagree very much with an exit wound in the rear of the head. Hoover and LBJ were neither one satisfied that this was not a communist plot. Ruby's words may or may not have been taken out of context in the video. Ruby said a lot of things. The stuff about William Greer is just plain horseshit, and hurts the cause of conspiracy. (some people think Jackie did it). Oltmans' has nothing to support his statements.
@BlueWolfe38Asshoe you can disagree all you want with the doctors and Ruby's videos. Hoover & LBJ did say THEY, referring to multiple assassins. The FBI did change witness statements - proven. Witnesses say Greer did shoot. You cannot prove otherwise with an altered film. The limo did stop according to cops, news people and others. Zapruder did sell his film to the CIA - that is already proven.
DeMohrenschildt did say on tape "(Oswald) he definitely had love and respect for president Kennedy".
@BlueWolfe38Asshole there is no proof Oswald did anything. None. Now, go back down in your moms basement to your bed and continue getting butt fucked by your boyfriend.
@BlueWolfe38Asshole You and your boyfriend will be caught by your mother after she comes home from her back alley jobs, if you guys don;t wash your shit stain off of her rented dildo.
We have a BOATLOAD of circumstantial evidence. WAY more than can be accounted for by mere chance. Criminals are convicted by circumstantial evidence every day. You must realize BlueBalls, criminals don't always leave behind nice smoking guns for us to use against them. Especially the CIA.
Where is the evidence against LHO? His gun? So they claim. Anybody actually see him fire it at the President? No? OK then, so where is YOUR evidence
@BlueWolfe38 The clumsy attempts at cover up. tampering with the evidence, intimidation of witnesses is clear evidence of conspiracy. These CIA spooks are not too bright. Just smart enough to be a pain in the ass but not clever enough to know how to be decent human beings. The lame attempt to pin it on Oswald failed. You know why? Because we're still talking about it 50 years later. CIA will be shut down soon, by the way.
Google CIA Operations WUBRINY and WUSALINE, or read Russ Baker's book "Family of Secrets" if you want to know more about George deMohrenschildt's connections with the CIA, George H. W. Bush, and top levels of Government connected with the JFK Assassination.
No One Would involve themselves in the murder of Any president for a meager 50,000,even in 1963,this is a complete tower of shit.Just another opportunist cashing in on the tragedy.
Oltmans was a liar. Try to tell us what a dead guy says to him. Such bullshit. I also interviewed Demorenschieldt before he was gunned down by the CIA, and he told me that the Kennedy assassination was a conspiracy involving the top levels of the criminal empire that we call government.
@ProtectAnus You need to protect your Anus a bit more carefully. Why should we believe you when YOU tell us what a dead guy told YOU ???? Hhhmmmmm ??? Such bullshit.
Willy Boy Oltmans was another CIA clown. It is obvious, in light of all the evidence coming to the surface, that Oswald never shot at anyone that day. Hoover and LBJ already gave up the conspiracy on their audio tapes talking to each other.
The Bush and Hinckley families were friendly. George and Barbara Bush even had dinner with Hinckley's parents the night before the attempt on Reagan's life. But that is the extent of the "evidence" that Bush was involved in some plot to kill Reagan. The idea itself is ludicrous, especially if we are to believe that George Bush was some sort of disciplined cold-war operative and not just some bureaucrat.
Whatever George DeMohrenschildt was in life, it is highly unlikely he had anything to do with handling Oswald for the "conspirators". DeMohrenschildt had no contact with Oswald for the last 5 months of Oswald's life as DeMohrenschildt was out of the country.
the oil texans had the whip when it came to lbj- they hated jfk-they all gambled at binions top of the hill club in ft.worth.-when the overworld wanted something done they went to the underworld got it done. ask roselli and mahue how it worked. out at he king ranch- the klebergs had their own game. jfk was a traitor to these people- and they had the means and connections to get the job done- just look at history- they pulled it off.
De Mohrenschildt was probably the link between the right wing group(s) that were plotting Kennedy's murder that Oswald had infiltrated and the CIA,FBI,MIC,etc. That was his job; as an aid to implicate Osawld. He was probably informing the intelligence communities how Oswald was behaving and his thoughts and movements.
In Gerry Patrick Hemming's HSCA testimony he states that he knew Loren Hall was in Dallas the week of the assassination and that Hall had a rifle owned by Hemming,a 30 06 rifle.
Interestingly Mr Arnold Rowland saw a man in the southwest 6th floor window of the TSBD holding a 30 06 rifle just before the assassination.
De Mohrenschildt was a geologist and worked for Bush Sr's oil company.He was also good friends with Micheal & Ruth Paine who were CIA associates that found Oswald his job on the parade route.Micheal Paine was also an engineer for Bell Aerospace with security clearance.His boss at Bell was former Nazi scientist Walter Dornberger.
De Mohrenschildt was good buddies with George HW Bush and he was Oswald's handler.He helped the CIA frame Oswald.Isnt it odd that he was killed before he could testify at the HSC on assassinations?He alledgedly shot himself with a shotgun.
CBS television was founded by William Paley who was a specialist in pyschological warfare in the military.Look up "Operation Mockingbird" and check it out.
Willem Oltmans, whom I've interviewed several times, was a remarkable journalist who excelled at networking. He interviewed many important business leaders, government officials and high ranking academics for Dutch newspapers, magazines and television programmes. His memoirs, consisting of 76 pieces, are being released in The Netherlands as we speak. Oltmans' main claim to fame is his lengthy 1956 interview with Sukarno, the first president of independent Indonesia.
daughter tells you that house select committee on assassinations is looking for you and want you to testify and re-live the ordeal from 14 years ago. I think he just had enough and wanted out especially given his erratic behavior, deteriorating mental state, and previos suicide attempts in the months prior. Sure, de Mohrenschildt was a hustler and a shady businessman/geologist who knows a lot of people (Jackie Kennedy, George HW Bush, oil tycoons, admirals) but he wasn't Oswald's "babysitter".
icefrappe 1 month ago
reputation, constantly stalked by secret service, betrayal by friends, and infused with guilt that he should had defended his friend Oswald more vigorously during the Warren commission whom he believed to be innocent (I'm not so sure of Oswald's innocence given his possible violent attempt against General Walker). It must have taken an emotional toil on him. When guys like Oltmans and Epstein keep trying to put words in your mouth to make you seem like Oswald's CIA handler. You go home and your
icefrappe 1 month ago
de Mohrenshildt was in Haiti when JFK was murdered when all of the major players were allegedly in Dallas. Conspiracy theorists like to say that de Mohrenshildt was murdered in 1977 and silenced but I don't buy it. There is no doubt in my mind that he killed himself. He just wasn't that important. He had been talking in all those intervening years and could had been silenced a long time ago. There were multiple people in the house. And put yourself in his position, you lost your business
icefrappe 1 month ago
Sure he knew the rich and powerful but given by the track record and personality of his and his wife (free spirited liberal) it was not that far fetched that they took an innocent interest in Oswald. Plus de Mohrenschildt was fairly active in the Russian community in Dallas at the time even before Oswald entered the picture. Both Oswald and de Mohrenschildt were probably framed. They seemed naive and stupid. If Oswald really did assassinate JFK, his target was most likely Connolly who he hated.
icefrappe 1 month ago
I tend to agree with De Mohrenschildt's manuscript that he and Oswald's relationship was genuine. As a well-connected businessman, it wasn't unusual for de Mohrenschildt to know CIA people to get stuff done in the business world in corrupt foreign countries and in exchange do favors for CIA (he was a self proclaimed hustler in his younger days) but I don't think he was a CIA agent. He was also not that rich and once travelled to central america with his wife by foot right before he met Oswald
icefrappe 1 month ago
For a loner, Oswald sure knew a lot of people...
draoi99 1 month ago
I would submit this to you Conspiracy Lunatics:
Conspiracy is like a bad piece of sausage, the more you chew it, the bigger it gets. There is not and never has been produced one single shred of evidence of a second shooter in Dealey Plaza. No Photos, Film, Ballistics or one single shred of Medical Evidence to indicate that anyone other that Lee Harvey Oswald killed Kennedy. Don't give me that back and to the left sh*t either. GRAVITY. "Body falls backward when the Brains hit the fan." Period.
BlueWolfe38 2 months ago
@BlueWolfe38Asshole No photos, film, ballistics or one single shred of medical evidence indicates Oswald had any guns or killed anyone. Absolutely none. What is proven, is that the FBI (Hoover) did change the witness testimony's to support the WC lies.
jacobji5 2 months ago
@jacobji5 Please provide me with your solid evidence to support your statements. I have no need of what you "think" or what you "believe". The physical evidence for this case is available online if you visit the National Archives. If you are in possession of better physical evidence than this, perhaps YOU are part of a conspiracy, and should be investigated. You folks are ALWAYS brimming with Theory, but embarassingly short of any evidence to substantiate your ever growing delusional fantasies.
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
@BlueWolfe38 Since the "physical evidence" in the Natl. Archives is phony, a visit there is worthless.
Video: Proof the FBI LIED in their JFK Assassination Reports
Who knows how many more witness statements have been purposely changed by the J Edgar Hoover criminals. The FBI conspired to cover up the assignation, before and after the fact. The FBI created the evidence.
jacobji5 1 month ago
@jacobji5 John F. Kennedy was in fact, J. Edgar Hoover's favorite President. Hoover had enough on JFK sexually to endure 16 years of the Kennedy brothers. Oswald was a Marxist. A radical. He was making babies with the KGB's step daughter. Oswald had the means, the motive, and the opportunity to kill the President. Some related evidence had to be withheld, and National Security was a more than sufficient reason. Or would you have prefered a very concievable nuclear exchange?
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
@jacobji5 How do you know that the evidence in the National Archives is phony and worthless? Who told you that? You have to look at this case within the context of what was going on in the World at the time. One of the greatest lies that young people in this country have been told is that our Government wanted war and murdered the President to have it. Where is the evidence FOR conspiracy after 48 years. No one on any of these forums has produced it for me.
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
@BlueWolfe38Asshole you obviously refused to see the video proof, because you already know it is true.
jacobji5 1 month ago
@jacobji5 De Mohrenschildt speaks for himself in this video. That is evidence. What this Oltmans faggot claims after De Mohrenschildt's death only indicates the Oltmans is a liar. Oswald was a delusional Marxist who had the means, the motive, and the opportunity to assassinate the President independent of any conspiracy. These facts are supported by physical evidence retained by the National Archives. Absolutely nothing supports the Oltmans claim other than his apparent gift for sensationalism.
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
@BlueWolfe38Asshole There is no evidence on Oswald. DPD Chief Jesse Curry already said before he died, "Nobody's yet been able to put him in the building with a gun in his hand".
All of the doctors at Parkland say the rear hole in the head is an exit hole.
Hoover & LBJ are on tape saying THEY, referring to multiple assassins.
Ruby is on video saying the conspirators will never let out the truth.
Witnesses say Greer shot JFK.
So you have no facts, other than Oltman is a liar.
jacobji5 1 month ago
@jacobji5 I am quite aware of Curry's statements and I agree with his sentiments. I disagree very much with an exit wound in the rear of the head. Hoover and LBJ were neither one satisfied that this was not a communist plot. Ruby's words may or may not have been taken out of context in the video. Ruby said a lot of things. The stuff about William Greer is just plain horseshit, and hurts the cause of conspiracy. (some people think Jackie did it). Oltmans' has nothing to support his statements.
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
@BlueWolfe38Asshoe you can disagree all you want with the doctors and Ruby's videos. Hoover & LBJ did say THEY, referring to multiple assassins. The FBI did change witness statements - proven. Witnesses say Greer did shoot. You cannot prove otherwise with an altered film. The limo did stop according to cops, news people and others. Zapruder did sell his film to the CIA - that is already proven.
DeMohrenschildt did say on tape "(Oswald) he definitely had love and respect for president Kennedy".
jacobji5 1 month ago
@jacobji5 You are a nut. You make legimate conspiracy researchers look bad. Do you have any evidence besides You Tube videos? Asshole?
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
@BlueWolfe38Asshole you have no evidence who the assassins are. No names. Nothing.
jacobji5 1 month ago
@jacobji5 Oswald. You name the others, asshole.
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
@BlueWolfe38Asshole there is no proof Oswald did anything. None. Now, go back down in your moms basement to your bed and continue getting butt fucked by your boyfriend.
jacobji5 1 month ago
@jacobji5 you are one of Garrison's boys. You should know all about being buttfucked.
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
@BlueWolfe38Asshole You and your boyfriend will be caught by your mother after she comes home from her back alley jobs, if you guys don;t wash your shit stain off of her rented dildo.
jacobji5 1 month ago
@jacobji5
ABSENCE OF EVIDENCE IS NOT EVIDENCE OF ABSENCE.
We have a BOATLOAD of circumstantial evidence. WAY more than can be accounted for by mere chance. Criminals are convicted by circumstantial evidence every day. You must realize BlueBalls, criminals don't always leave behind nice smoking guns for us to use against them. Especially the CIA.
Where is the evidence against LHO? His gun? So they claim. Anybody actually see him fire it at the President? No? OK then, so where is YOUR evidence
LiquorWreckedEmGood 1 month ago
@BlueWolfe38 The clumsy attempts at cover up. tampering with the evidence, intimidation of witnesses is clear evidence of conspiracy. These CIA spooks are not too bright. Just smart enough to be a pain in the ass but not clever enough to know how to be decent human beings. The lame attempt to pin it on Oswald failed. You know why? Because we're still talking about it 50 years later. CIA will be shut down soon, by the way.
draoi99 1 month ago
@BlueWolfe38
oh yes. it was GRAVITY that snapped kennedy's head back in a split second.
hey BlueBalls. What did you do with the money? What money? The money your mother gave you for PHYSICS TUTORING.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 1 month ago
Google CIA Operations WUBRINY and WUSALINE, or read Russ Baker's book "Family of Secrets" if you want to know more about George deMohrenschildt's connections with the CIA, George H. W. Bush, and top levels of Government connected with the JFK Assassination.
DavidAtleePhilips 5 months ago
No One Would involve themselves in the murder of Any president for a meager 50,000,even in 1963,this is a complete tower of shit.Just another opportunist cashing in on the tragedy.
thomasg74 5 months ago
Oltmans was a liar. Try to tell us what a dead guy says to him. Such bullshit. I also interviewed Demorenschieldt before he was gunned down by the CIA, and he told me that the Kennedy assassination was a conspiracy involving the top levels of the criminal empire that we call government.
ProtectAnus 9 months ago
@ProtectAnus You need to protect your Anus a bit more carefully. Why should we believe you when YOU tell us what a dead guy told YOU ???? Hhhmmmmm ??? Such bullshit.
BlueWolfe38 1 month ago
Willy Boy Oltmans was another CIA clown. It is obvious, in light of all the evidence coming to the surface, that Oswald never shot at anyone that day. Hoover and LBJ already gave up the conspiracy on their audio tapes talking to each other.
De Mohrenschildt did not change his story.
jacobji5 9 months ago 5
@jacobji5 DeMorenshildt, whom Oswald knew, and looked up to, said "Oswald was a lunatic who killed the president". Facts are facts.
IwshIcldstrtover 3 hours ago
The Bush and Hinckley families were friendly. George and Barbara Bush even had dinner with Hinckley's parents the night before the attempt on Reagan's life. But that is the extent of the "evidence" that Bush was involved in some plot to kill Reagan. The idea itself is ludicrous, especially if we are to believe that George Bush was some sort of disciplined cold-war operative and not just some bureaucrat.
JohnDavidStutts1 1 year ago
Whatever George DeMohrenschildt was in life, it is highly unlikely he had anything to do with handling Oswald for the "conspirators". DeMohrenschildt had no contact with Oswald for the last 5 months of Oswald's life as DeMohrenschildt was out of the country.
JohnDavidStutts1 1 year ago
De Mohrenshildt used to date Janet Bouvier (Jackie's mother). I always thought De Mohrenshildt was KGB.
DCFunBud 1 year ago
@DCFunBud he was actually tied in with german espionage and shared information thats why he couldnt become CIA
hockeyplusguns17 1 year ago
How were the Bushes linked to JFK's son's death?
aliveboy2 1 year ago
bushs sons friend tried to kill ragan .....funny how the bushs name keeps cropping up in asassination plots even kennedys son...................
SuperBandstand 1 year ago
@SuperBandstand Please elaborate on the connection to Bush and the mysterious private plane crash of John Kennedy Jr.
kellythesinger 1 year ago
the oil texans had the whip when it came to lbj- they hated jfk-they all gambled at binions top of the hill club in ft.worth.-when the overworld wanted something done they went to the underworld got it done. ask roselli and mahue how it worked. out at he king ranch- the klebergs had their own game. jfk was a traitor to these people- and they had the means and connections to get the job done- just look at history- they pulled it off.
larrywheels 1 year ago
De Mohrenschildt was probably the link between the right wing group(s) that were plotting Kennedy's murder that Oswald had infiltrated and the CIA,FBI,MIC,etc. That was his job; as an aid to implicate Osawld. He was probably informing the intelligence communities how Oswald was behaving and his thoughts and movements.
MrLordbaltimore 1 year ago 3
In Gerry Patrick Hemming's HSCA testimony he states that he knew Loren Hall was in Dallas the week of the assassination and that Hall had a rifle owned by Hemming,a 30 06 rifle.
Interestingly Mr Arnold Rowland saw a man in the southwest 6th floor window of the TSBD holding a 30 06 rifle just before the assassination.
themeaningoflife38 2 years ago
check out "Brigade 2506 & Interpen"
themeaningoflife38 2 years ago
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Read "I'm a Patsy!" by George de Mohrenschildt to get an insight into the guy's psyche. That Oltmans feller is a liar and a fake.
core2duo07 2 years ago
De Mohrenschildt was a geologist and worked for Bush Sr's oil company.He was also good friends with Micheal & Ruth Paine who were CIA associates that found Oswald his job on the parade route.Micheal Paine was also an engineer for Bell Aerospace with security clearance.His boss at Bell was former Nazi scientist Walter Dornberger.
themeaningoflife38 2 years ago 5
De Mohrenschildt was good buddies with George HW Bush and he was Oswald's handler.He helped the CIA frame Oswald.Isnt it odd that he was killed before he could testify at the HSC on assassinations?He alledgedly shot himself with a shotgun.
themeaningoflife38 3 years ago 4
Ironically Bush Sr was appointed by Ford to be head of the CIA just in time to refuse cooperation with the HSCA in 1976.
themeaningoflife38 2 years ago
And Ford was on the Warren Commission.
Fripitto 2 years ago 3
@Fripitto Ford was also J Edgar Hoover's informant on the WC
themeaningoflife38 1 year ago
CBS television was founded by William Paley who was a specialist in pyschological warfare in the military.Look up "Operation Mockingbird" and check it out.
themeaningoflife38 3 years ago 3
De Mohrenschildt was CIA
themeaningoflife38 3 years ago 12
@themeaningoflife38 no h wasn't he had connections to the CIA and they helped him with his oversee customers only if he brought them information
hockeyplusguns17 1 year ago
Willem Oltmans, whom I've interviewed several times, was a remarkable journalist who excelled at networking. He interviewed many important business leaders, government officials and high ranking academics for Dutch newspapers, magazines and television programmes. His memoirs, consisting of 76 pieces, are being released in The Netherlands as we speak. Oltmans' main claim to fame is his lengthy 1956 interview with Sukarno, the first president of independent Indonesia.
Yankii81 4 years ago 4
5 sterretjes...
American viewers might like to know that Oltmans played De Mohrenschildt in Oliver Stone's movie.
michiel77 4 years ago 2