(Raw Footage) Insane Fully Involved House FIre In Gary Indiana

[SasukeUchiha758]

One time i was staying at a trailer park with my friend for a few months so i can get my place a few years ago, there was a trailer fire right across the street from us! the entire trailer was on fire and it literally was so hot it melted my neighbors window when my neighbors trailer was right across the street!!

[75nova420]

liuetenant1, you knew the risks when you joined the fd if you cant handle the job i think dunkin donuts is hiring

[jessicaeutiad]

i wish it wont be happen but more happen

[mabas21]

@liuetenant1 You are seeing only one view which is mine from the camera. Do you know for a fact that a 360 was not done? It is funny how so many of you can critique from a small 5-10 minute video, you were not there and do not know the circumstances. If you would like I can refer you to some of the companies on scene and they would be more than happy to answer what ever questions you may have.

[mabas21]

@liuetenant1 Dumb question, I arrived at the same time they did and the house was fully involved. What evidence could have possibly survived these conditions????? Just another silly observation, do you really think that if someone was inside they would have survived? Risk vs reward on this one, I would rather go home to my wife and kids instead of doing something stupid

[loghead123456789]

ive seen a horrible fire like that but at day

[vidasan]

Bombeiros Ílhavo 2010 see this on ytube.

[bo1636]

no to start shit but it seems to be ur always first on scene so how do we know ur just not a whackr liting fires

[bearwoodbrown]

hey great videos I just discovered your videos the other day ,boy u have filmed some awsome fires , very interesting reading all the commnts , question what was the horn blowing for at around 6 minutes Ive heard this before . i kinda thought it meant pull back to defensive or get out ?

[Rjschneider69]

@bearwoodbrown The continuous air horn is for evacuation of the structure or most likely collapse zone

[LivingALife2theMax]

I'm not saying this to start a fight I'm just curious: it seems like in a couple of your video descriptions it says there was problems with the fire hydrants or there were no fire hydrants close by... don't fire departments go around checking the fire hydrants and stuff?

[mabas21]

@LivingALife2theMax Generally the hydrants are maintained by the water department and when the fd arrives it should be in operation, but who knows if this was done prior to the fd's arrival. As for frozen hydrants, there is nothing anyone can do except take a blow torch to it.....

[RMFDassistantcheif]

@mabas21 Blow torching a hydrant bet thats fun lol

[JPOC226]

@mabas21 Tankers?

[mabas21]

@JPOC226 Gary use to have a tanker, but it was lost when the garage where all the work was done on the vehicles was lost in a fire. Because Gary is "self insured" it was never replaced. The closest tanker that is used is about a 15 minutes eta to this location. Guess they figured with no exposures and the fact the house was vacant this was not an urgency. A fire like this is common in Gary so they are used to it

[resqjason2]

@JPOC226 yes tankers. a vehicle that carries upwards of 1000 gallons of water usually 1500-3000 is common.. they are not commonly seen in city/urban areas with hydrants. usually a volly rural fire dept that does not have hydrants and must bring their own water and set up a shuttle operation where the tankers go to a pond or creek and fill up drive to the fire and drop water in a giant portable tank and repeat until fire is gone..

[resqjason2]

@LivingALife2theMax some do some dont. my dept checks hydrants twice a year. it sucks but its needed. when you depend on the water guys to do it, depending on how short staffed they are by bad management. they may not be checked for years and you never know till one day you twist it open and nothing comes out. usually busy depts dont check hydrants on a regular basis because they are too busy running calls to go out and inspect 5000+ hydrants every year

[109ejg]

Obviously a fake

[93CFD]

you did a fine job...you put the wet stuff on the red stuff and everyone went home...

[NJS1726]

RISK ALOT TO SAVE ALOT, you can bet your ass im not gonna go balls deep on something that is not going to make a differece although i will do my damdist to save property, vacant or not...

[brandonkcowart6]

i agree ALOT of flaws went on here!!!! need better training!! who taught ya'll to tare the building down wile ur putting it out? that's just STUPID!! you almost lost/hurt two firemen pulling down that wall AND another on the ladder truck putting it through the power line?!! that makes since!! but i hope the best for ya'll's department good luck!!

P.S. try getting more hoses on the ground usually works better!

[tapemasteriscool]

@brandonkcowart6 prolly first engine on scene

[TheFirefightergurl]

hey xlxjus10xlx IF U PAYED ATTENTION IN FF1 U WOULD KNOW THAT LIFE SAFETY IS FIRST NO PROPERTY IS WORTH THE LIFE OF A FIREFIGHTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SO HOW ABOUT YOU GO TO CLASS AND ACTUALLY LEARN SOMETHING BEFORE YOU GET URSELF OR YOUR CREW KILLED FOR NOTHING PROPERTY CAN BE REPLACED YOU CANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[FDNYBase08]

I watched this and I commend their effort, but I have a couple of issues, not meant to insult the Gary FD. #1: No Scott-Paks. I don't care if I'm operating defensively, one face full of smoke and I could be down for the count. #2: Why did it take so long to get the master stream going? Also, raising a ladder with power lines in the area, which kinda a no-no but a lot of departments do it. Unmanned or no, I'd rather not take that chance. But overall, the job got done in the end.

[mikeludkeus]

some times people wait to call fire dept cause they they have no clue if some one else called it in or not every one pays attention to evry one house or trailer

[jrsyff86]

well if GFD or the film maker keeps declaring these house vacant pretty soon it will be a ghost town

[SCVFD1241NC]

Whats taking sooooooo long on the water supply?????????

[jrsyff86]

if the house was vacant, im guessing thats your pick up? if so why you park so close?

[mabas21]

@jrsyff86 No it was not my truck, I have no clue who parked there

[xlxjus10xlx]

@jrsyff86 That's what i'm saying.. Who would park their truck that close to a "FULLY INVOLVED STRUCTURE"?.. I wouldn't.. But yet they claim it to be vacant like every other house in their videos.. Starting to sound like gary indiana is a ghost town, no one lives there. lol

[bear100285]

well what i saw it was lost cause at the start

[jordanbeach89]

mabas21 i agree with u if no one lives in the house y would u risk ur own life by going in all u can do is stop it from spreding to other homes its not worth ur family geting a phone call saying a house that was colapsing fell on u and thay couldint get u out stay safe i wanna be a firefighter when im 20

[xlxjus10xlx]

Tha'ts what they have said on every fire video, that the houses is all vacant.. It's starting to sound like and excuse to me, vacant or non vacant, that's still someone's property, someone has invested money into that property when they bought it.. Vacant or not you should always treat a house as your own, Grow a pair of balls and roll them boots up and put out the fire.. My dept average response time is 4-5 mins and we can put a stop on a mobile home, containing fire in 1-2 rooms.

[mabas21]

@xlxjus10xlx When I say vacant, I mean the city is taking it upon their own and leveling the houses with grant money. I was first on scene except for the police and you can clearly see the house is beyond gone. Why "roll up the boots" and risk everything for this hole in the wall. Oh and GFD response time is 4-5 minutes also, if their response time was 10 seconds it would not matter on a house like this. Have fun with you mobile home fires, come to Gary to fight some real fire

[xlxjus10xlx]

@mabas21 We don't just do mobile home fires, and if you're not going to actually fight fire, then there's no point in calling yourself a firefighter, Come down here to texas, and we'll show you how it's done, I've seen alot of your videos and it shows they fall too much behind safety, or they could just be scared, no wonder why so many are getting laid off and stations being shut down.. Why have depts when they don't do anything?.. Roll them boots up, got one toting the mail!

[MusikAndLuv]

@xlxjus10xlx You criticise others way too much. If you're such a hero, why aren't you out helping somebody? Looks like you are picking on others to build up your own faulty ego.

[xlxjus10xlx]

@MusikAndLuv For a matter of fact musikandluv i'm a firefighter/emt myself, so i have room to talk, and share my opinion. WE (my dept) treats everyones house/property as our own. There's plenty of depts that i know of.. not naming them.. Don't care about another persons property, they'll rather just sit back and watch it burn, hell i bet if they had marshmallows they would be roasting them over the fire if they could get away with it. Me on the other hand and my dept we're more aggresive.

[ntfd125]

@xlxjus10xlx The fact is that this is not somebodys house..... Its Vacant.......which means no one lives there. If its going to be torn down whats the point of putting their lives on the line. A firefighter would understand the tactics chosen by the first due engine. You sound more like a cowboy than a firefighter. A cowboy only knows how to perform the tactics but a true firefighter knows how and why the tactics are performed. Keep training my friend.

[wowHandOfFaith]

@mabas21 the law is very clear on this subject in indianna, all fire departments must extinguish all fires they are dispacthed to. put the fire out fast and effectivly in order to preserve the property for the fire investigator. as watching this video i do see the firefighters at hand do need additional training only one of the salb coolers on deck has a scba on, this 'abandoned" house was set on fire some how. why ... what were they trying to hide or destroy?

[mabas21]

@wowHandOfFaith Somebody learned a new word, wtf is a slab cooler? Anyway, whats your point here???? Have you seen the videos out of Detroit? Are all those fires set to hide something? Come on, these retards set fires for reasons unknown to me, maybe to clear the vacant houses, all I do know is it threatens the lives of good men and women everyday. I am just there to document the action and dedication. Oh and btw, GFD has a fully involved house knocked within 10 minutes. Not many dept can

[PopppaBlue59]

@wowHandOfFaith "The law in Indiana is very clear on this subject..." I guess that's why you don't see many lawyers fighting fire, eh? Good job GFD. Keep safe out there.

Greetings from Texas.

[legoman6000]

@xlxjus10xlx seriously... why does everyone have to pretend to be a badass and tell the firefighters how to do their job, or criticize them on their own profession. 50 bucks says you make cupcakes in a factory for 10$ an hour. The house was already engulfed and ruined before someone called the fire dept. (not to mention 4 minutes later when they arrived) So Shut. The. Fuck. Up. Before. I. Smack. Your. Pimply. Face.

[xlxjus10xlx]

@legoman6000 Go play with your little legos and let the real men talk here, I'm a Firefighter/EMT and i can proudly call myself a FIREFIGHTER.. I actually FIGHT FIRE, I don't sit back and let shit burn, and sorry to burst your little bubble, but you would of just lost 50 bucks, damn digging into your leggo money there trying to put up bets.. I can understand people on here that doesn't do it for a living or volunteer their time doing it and talkin shit, yeah they can shut up.. So leggo STFU!

[legoman6000]

@xlxjus10xlx ok so your a firefighter. I thought you were some fat kid lying on a couch eating marshmallows for dinner or something saying that their a firefighter. I bugs me seeing all these comments criticizing the firefighters of doing something wrong. Maybe they had a reason for why they did that. Had to be pissed at somebody...

[noahrams]

@xlxjus10xlx In a mobile home there is ONLY 1-2 rooms. That's basically the whole house. Oh great they get to keep one room in their mobile home.

[xlxjus10xlx]

@noahrams But what's in the 1 room that is saved important or valuable to them?.. That's the thing.. Try to recover items that could possibly never be replaced. Yeah it might have smoke damage, or heat damage, but it's the thought that counts.

[ff271emt]

yo fdny124.....suck a dick

[bigd8586]

Alright, I have watched multiple videos of GFD and all I can see is them showing up late and not going in balls out! By the time they get into the suppressing its to late. Gary, IN really needs to rethink their training and budget to get men/women trained better and a little faster on response! Don't know if you are with them or a signal chaser but something has to be done!

[mabas21]

@bigd8586 GFD response time is 4-5 minutes, the houses are usually fully involved or well off before anyone gets on scene. Why should anyone go "balls out" for a vacant house where in some cases has burned multiple times? Seriously, think about what your saying, I see guys get off rigs and run like their asses are on fire to get a line on the fire. In a case like this one is there really a reason to risk life and limb. A vacant structure, fully involved, and if anyone was inside their crisp

[ArmyRescue2]

@mabas21 Your fire dept...sucks

[adrianhigs]

the fire fighters are like "[crack open a beer] ahh what a view [ slurp ]

[midlights]

When my neighbors garage caught on fire it took the firemen well over 15 minutes to set up. There are no fire hydrants in my neighborhood, but we do live next to a river that they didn't use!

[toxcicity93]

man i wanna be a firefighter so bad

[No1TruexFan]

In defense of the GFD, people have to realize that this fire is a lost cause. No danger to any structural exposures and was totally involved on arrival. Finally, any seasoned guy or girl out there can't tell me you have never had some type of water supply problem. So it really isn't fair for anyone not familiar with this incident to criticize what they don't know....It just makes one sound like an uneducated moron.

[No1TruexFan]

Ok...I am not going to pick the firefighting tactics apart because right or wrong, every dept. has there own way of doing things. What I do not like is the idea of pulling a full brick face wall toward you with a hook. That is just plain unsafe and dangerous for anyone in the area. But enough about that.

[LAcoFIREREED]

why are they extended a ladder/pipe for that , you can continue wit handlines.

[vipervenomv10]

Why are yall blasting yalls Q2 siren at 213 in the morning? Is there really that much traffic at 213am?

[hunter1596]

@vipervenomv10 its all apart of the rules if something was to happen and they werent being used lawsuite...

[edytzuUndercover]

In Soviet Russia home destroys your fire

[BigRussOvBs9]

the firefighters involved would now proserve the scene they know that that pre fab/ trailer is completly gutted looking at the footage it doesnt pose an immediate risk if there were any persons reported then it would of been a different story they would of attempted a rescue.

[mabas21]

@BigRussOvBs9 This was a brick ranch house, not a pre-fab

[adog513]

Boy do u guys get a lot of fires down there. great videos tho

[livewithdavid]

I love watching the Firemen take their sweet time at putting water on the fire...

[GFDPIPEMAN]

@livewithdavid u dont have a clue what we do. three firemen to a rig, yet we still do our job. Come work a fire with us, you will be in a ambulance by the time were done.

[93CFD]

@GFDPIPEMAN where i used to work it was standard policy... two in two out meant two men inside and two pumpers outside... casper used to pump the truck once we got it all set up

[hayes4321]

Oh....

[hayes4321]

What were the Fire Men doing jsut standing there?

[mabas21]

@hayes4321 They were waiting on water from a hydrant.

[911caddy]

@mabas21, no water on the Engine???

[mabas21]

@911caddy They had already used it

[911caddy]

@mabas21, Gotcha! Good to see them using a large bore attack line!!

[ArmyRescue2]

@mabas21 Why the hell don't they refill it...or maybe use a thing called a hydrant...sorry those people may not know what it is

[heatherdurds]

well thats the usual. it is gary. my dad goes there for work all the time, its a crappy town =/

[JAYJAYJARRYD]

omg!

[CCFRPUMPER111]

was this a mobile home? Because it sure don't look like a normal house...

[mabas21]

@CCFRPUMPER111 Believe it or not this was a 1 story brick house, it was just so far gone by the time anyone got to it

[mszane44]

how long did the fire last?

[mszane44]

were the people save that lived there saved?

[mabas21]

@mszane44 The house was vacant

[mabas21]

@mabas21 I have no idea, maybe 25-30 minutes

[joeyp1974]

thanks 808, i see it all the time. even here in jersey. its a waste of water in my opinion. i only use a straight stream when im actualy in the building and dont want to upset the thermal balance.. otherwise its not worth it

[XDman1981]

Mabas21 do you always Buff GFD .... Some of the Guys from my Dept go to Detroit and flow them around from time to time

[joeyp1974]

what is it with you guys always using a straight stream?? you can actually see your stream going thru the flames and comming out the other side not even hitting whats on fire. all you needed was a medium fog pattern and swirl it around.

[808514]

@joeyp1974 yea, I agree.  A medium fog pattern does work a lot beter in these situations.

[ffjsb]

@joeyp1974 A fog stream won't be effective because of the radiant heat and collapsing structure, you ain't gonna get close enough. We most likely would have used the deck gun for quick knock down. It's free burning, there's no thermal balance to worry about, nobodies goingn in.

[Wonkawillie77]

No one hurt? That's good but who owns the truck parked in the driveway?

[mabas21]

I have no clue, it was there when I got there.

[dandoosh90]

The radiant heat from that fire must have been insane. Good thing that there were no evident exposures

[1captfd]

i wouldn't say our manpower is limited, at this fire which is a still response, we had two engines, 1 truck, and a heavy rescue squad with at least 4 guys on each, we are still the biggest fd in northwest indiana. but due to retirements our dept. manpower is smaller(some co's ride with three people)... not limited.. we could've called a 2nd,or 3rd alarm.but this wasnt necessary.plus we have mutual aid agreements with surrounding depts therefore we have other resources

[ballsofun]

I always wonder why it takes so long for an ariel attack

[93CFD]

the reason it took me so long with an ariel attack is because of electricity... a few times i refused to put the ladder up because of too many wires or lightning... im the one on top of that lightning rod and power wires will kill just as quickly as lightning

[MonctonFD94]

Good stuff! not to much you can do when the fire is that open on arrival and ontop of that you got hydrant problems, bugger isn't it. attacked great with the supply you had though!

[MonctonFD94]

volly or full time?

[mabas21]

Full time with limited manpower and resources.

[FrieskyDingo]

nice worker

[JustinTW995]

my house burned down :(

[TheFordman8868]

sorry

[lawpar79]

sweet q on arrival in the beginning

[93CFD]

that place was rolling... nice job with the atttack... ive never fought a fire with a basement before cause we just dont have them around here. what do you do just fill it with water until it looks extinguished?

[youjacqueline]

nice footage

[youjacqueline]

hopefully no one is in there

[youjacqueline]

holly crap!

[firewacker432]

how did this house fire start????

[mabas21]

I have no idea

[93CFD]

a flame about an inch tall

[SkeptixLogik]

hah

[SkeptixLogik]

Man that place is gone, get out the marshmellows and roast some smores. Not downing that dept sometimes a fire goes unnoticed until its blowin out every part of the home.

[mabas21]

GFD's response time is about 5 minutes, I somehow made it on scene first and this thing was a total loss from the start. Thankfully it was unoccupied.

[jlirewa]

yeah exactly especially if you live in a small town it may be burning for 20 minuets before the 911 dispatcher even drops a tone for the fire department to respond.

[93CFD]

nice fire... good picture and i bet the fd had a blast putting that one out...

[Choopzilla]

it only took 5 minutes for the house to become so engulfed in flames.

[Coasterrider210]

good thing if it was vacant that thing is engulfed!

[FROZYO]

What was with the horn randomly going off?

[mabas21]

To let the firefighters know a positive water source was established and water was on its way to them

[garycalgary]

no wonder the jacksons left Gary; the whole town seems to be one big incinerator

[Fmbloxghost]

jeez the fire dept was really slow

[mabas21]

Their response time was very quick, the problem was no water. They had to use a hydrant down the street. Trust me, Gary is not slow. I have to drive like a nut case sometimes just to get there before the fire is knocked down.

[jonnie150494]

put that water canon on itt.!

[apoure25]

my bad didnt mean to hit the thumbs down lol.

[smok31eta]

was anyone home

[mabas21]

I think it was vacant

[ZanderZavier]

What Was The Cause? And Was The House Vacant?

[mabas21]

I am pretty sure the house was vacant and for cause I have no idea. Considering the thing was so involved I would guess arson.

[arohn2007]

Thats my first thought too. I don't think a house would burn as intense as that if it weren't arson

[fdny214]

they did they could have done

[bapabob]

That must have been very frustrating for them to have a water supply problem. It was driving me nuts watching them stand around and let it burn with barely any water being put on the fire. I realize the house was a total loss when they arrived but jeeze guys, make it look good anyway..........

[dandoosh90]

Really makes me think about how great it is not to have to worry about water supply......being in a Suburban New York FD really does have it's advantages

[yehyehsoilwell]

i like how they pulled the Brick wall. nice work guys!

[BECKSX6]

thats an awsome fire, great vids mabas

[mabas21]

That was on of the craziest ones to date, it looked like the sun was coming up a half a mile away. Thanks for the comment

[ntrdme]

nice video again mabas 21!!

[antifreeze89]

nice video but bad fire

[TheVantard]

There is no other reason to blow the horns than for safety...like to get out. that is the dumbest thing I ever heard, 3 for water and 4 for evacuate???? I hear it once and im out of there...

[firetrukfixer]

Steady long =evacuate.

We dont have the luxury like your dept where everyone has a radio. How else is the hydrant man going to know when to turn it on? Please ask questions if you dont know before you assume things

Thank you KSB 939 Have a nice day!

[athelstanefire]

sorry didn't see your comment.

[athelstanefire]

im in agreement with you...99% of the time. But Gary FD doesn't have enough in their budget for everyone to have a radio. Only the officer and the engine mounted radio. If it wern't for that fact i'd think it was REALLY stupid.

[hockey4370]

is gary all volunteer?

[mabas21]

Nope, all paid union guys

[mean1112]

LOL that is funny is gary volunteer! DUH

[herndblr]

Great footage Ed!

[hockey4370]

whats the average response times in gary. seems like all the houses get totaled.

[herndblr]

Well, I would not fault the FD by any means for response times, stations are closed, manpower is down, budget cuts, all lead to increased response times outside the FDs control. GFD is one hell of a FD and they "get 'er done" and then some for what they have to work with!! And when you have arsonists that know how to get a house rocking, the house is toast, probably vacant anyway.

[dabull7114]

Great Footage as always!!

[JBurk2322]

awesome!!! how come at 6:00 they honk the horns?? Doesnt that mean to get out of the house?

[mabas21]

That is to let the guys know that water is on it's way, 4 long blasts is to evacuate and three normal bursts is for water. Thanks for the comment

[arohn2007]

I've never heard of that. I knew they blew the air horn for them to evacuate

[JBurk2322]

ohh ok thank you very much!

[7089540230]

great film!!!

[hippieman556]

great job stay safe

[mabas21]

Thanks for the comment and you do the same

[rykember11]

Awesome! How do you get there before the Fire Department?

[mabas21]

The fire was only about a mile away and I was still dressed from taking the garbage out. It was luck, GFD always beats me to the fires. Thanks for the comment.

[gfdsta1]

Great video. That new camera you got takes great video.

[mabas21]

It's not the camera, it's the guys doing the work. If it wasn't for you guys I would have a boring page. Thanks for the comment

[MIoldtimer]

Great work Ed.

[mabas21]

Thanks Ralph, stay safe out there

[MIoldtimer]

We try.......lol.....Had an OD today I had not ever delt with before. Guy was unconscious and nothing we could do did anything, narcan kinda got him around for like 15 seconds, but notta. Later we found out he ate a shitload of a horse tranquilizer....lol...Here`s yer sign...