Land Rover Defender Towing a 12 Tonne Truck.

[nyckolaz666]

I have a right to defend and could not know what that Asher is imprecionante whole strength lies in its trasmicion.

[DanielKE7UUM]

FYI !!!! That is NOT TOWING, That is PULLING!!!!!

[richu27]

How is the TD4 engine in a Defender? In my region we don't get TD5.

[Timberpants]

@richu27 the 2.5 litre Td5 engine was replaced in all Defenders in 2007 by a 2.4 litre 4 cyl. It is the 2.4 litre engine that is fitted to the Defender in this video.

In 2011 another new diesel engine started to be fitted - a 2.2 litre 4cyl (the same performance as the 2.4 but with better emissions).

[richu27]

@Timberpants Ok. Thanks for that info. Diesels are not famous in my region and the dealer is not sure about the specs. I was wondering about the 2.2litre TD4 engine. Could you tell me how is the acceleration and top speed? The speedometer shows 200KM/Hr.

[Timberpants]

@richu27 I have not driven the new engine yet but top speed increases from 82mph (132kph) to 90 mph (145kph) with the new 2.2 litre engine.

[richu27]

@Timberpants Thanks. :)

[RyYajn]

I found out how to get Defenders (including diesel models that get x2 the fuel economy) available in America!!! Step 1: Register to vote. Step 2: Vote for Ron Paul who would then deregulate the market, thereby getting rid of regulation requirements on airbags. Step 3: Once he deregulated the markets, go on down to your local Land Rover dealership and say, "I'd like to buy a Defender please."

[cl998]

The "van" engine is a damned good one, FWIW. Diesel engine technology for "normal" vehicles and FWD cars moves so fast these days, and Ford always make a good stab at things these days (a Transit is actually a proper sweet vehicle to chuck about), even their co-French Peugeot efforts...

[timsurftim]

i dunno why, but i lol'd alot when they started clapping

[pensionfight]

Great demo of the Defender with the Puma engine - power reduced by calibration to stop the wheels falling off - or rather the transfer box from braking (its a 140ps/360nm) engine the tow test demo for the anti stall is a credit to the Land Rover engineering team, and no the clutch never slipped at all. I

[TheDrOli]

That's very clever, but it would be more useful if you could make one that didn't rust quite so quickly and didn't leak water....or oil...or PAS fluid...etc. I love my landie and it's amazing off road, but why can't you clever people in Solihull just make them properly?!

[Timberpants]

@TheDrOli The core engineering design is from the 1970s so there are going to issues (as there were with all cars from that, or earlier, eras.) Its simple mechanicals and construction are a big part of its appeal to people ... it will be interesting to see when LR come to design a new Defender how many people will complain about it being too sophisticated!

[mallarchy]

@Timberpants They should have worked out to build them properly by now, no room for excuses. Simplicity should make it easier to get them right not harder.

[oscarfish38]

@TheDrOli Oh I agree to an extent.. but theres still so many of them still on the road.. something like 60 odd % (off the top of my head) of all LR ever built.. So they are doing something right. I love driving LR too. My best one was an old airportable S3 I was charged with while serving in Germany. As the recce rover I took it some places.. including Iraq & Kuwait during the first bout of fisticuffs in that region. I have currently got my eye on a nice lil Hardtop 90 for sale down the road.

[techdavey1000]

@TheDrOli Aw c'mon don't you know that they employ saboteur designers at LR? I've got a Range Rover Classic (cr@p) and a Discovery 300TDi (also cr@p) as with LR one has to do some reverse engineering for hard work e.g.bin viscous fans that don't fan, oil coolers in the rad hence all ones eggs in 1 basket, thermoplastic temp sensors that melt and measure the temp an inch away from the head! - you couldn't make it up! The Freelander 1,8 was of course the piece-de-resistance, duh!

[TheDrOli]

@techdavey1000 Ha Ha, it's so true! I'd have to add the almost biodegradable metalwork used to make the structural shell of the mk1 disco to your list! It's all good fun though and at least they are easy to fix when they inevitably break!

[techdavey1000]

@TheDrOli Hi there, I think that the LR factory must have saboteurs working there - even in the drawing office! The good news is that you can buy a spare chassis if you need one and in general spares are very easy to get. Just try buying a replacement chassis for a Shogun - they don't exist on this planet and there are probably none on Mars either! A friend bought a Shogun that must owe him £3K. Its now got a Prohibition Notice. The chassis is very holey (bought off religious JW see!) Duh!

[pensionfight]

all this and a Transit engine - not bad

[samsungsix]

Is the handbrake on?

[Timberpants]

@samsungsix ...no - truck's handbrake was not on.

[jasa2345678910]

i can smell the clutch from here!

[Wiegieboard]

Can't believe it managed on red granite chips!

[syncmaster710n14]

NICE. I once towed a 6 tonne trailer up a fairly steep hill in my old sires 3.

[DackIsBack]

Land rovers are built to tow tractors out of ditches ffs lol...

[wassupgeo]

its a good concept, but 3.5t can be towed up a hill, 12t...i'd like to see it done.

secondly, the car is in loose gravel which easily lets the wheels slip. try pulling 12t on tarmac, and the results will be expensive.

i know this is more targeted as a 4wd only thing, for work in boggy conditions and on hills, but when do you get the chance to tow a 12t truck in boggy sand on a beach?

[kokkinos7377]

This is bull. I was stuck in sand with my RR L322 and the 07 defender couldn't move me one inch. It took a 1989 v8 defender to do the trick but this old ford diesel defenders nowadays wear is up to nothing.

[Timberpants]

@kokkinos7377 That sounds odd to me ...please check out the film I mention below.

Do a YouTube search for 'Defender stuck in sand' - it is 2:21 long and loaded by hhezza

[toadecks]

@kokkinos7377 do you think perhaps tyres and/or difflock had something to do with it ? or perhaps it was the driver . . . because my old 72 series3 88" landy pulled a jeep grand cherokee out of a rather large sinkhole in sand/mud without breaking a sweat :)

[1006xrhonda]

@kokkinos7377 so ur saying the ford one wasnt up to it. we got a td5 i think there good

[dadspan]

@kokkinos7377 i know what you meen this icon of a 4x4 with a van engine doesnt seem like much but im sure the engine in this model is better than you think

[s1914]

Out of interest what happens with the anti-stall if you drove the Defender up (slowly) against a wall or something? I guess the car just ticks over ?

[Timberpants]

@s1914 It depends on how much grip there is under the tyres. Too much and it will stall. I little less, like on gravel, and the wheels will scrub until the fuel runs out.

[kokkinos7377]

This is bull. I was stuck in sand with my RR L322 and the 07 defender couldn't move me one inch. It took a 1989 v8 defender to do the trick but this old ford diesel defenders nowadays wear is up to nothing.

[partisano71]

my chevy 66 does the same, and it is a 2 wd.

[bossadave]

The driverless anti-stall system is essential, because nobody in their right mind should ever drive or buy a defender. They are god awful useless.

[Timberpants]

@bossadave that strikes me as a not too well considered comment. I agree with you that if you want to travel 600 miles in one day at 90mph you would not want to try to do it in a Defender...but if you want to tow an animal trailer through fields on a welsh hill side...or ford a river ...or ............

[aaktow]

@Timberpants , i have 10 years experience being a towie and i have towed so many broken down new and old land rovers i have lost count lust how many i have done. . i have towed all models and i would never own one. i would rather use a small truck.

[davehayes2204]

@bossadave most ignorant comment on youtube 2010 award goes to......

[296jayce]

@bossadave y do u say that, ppl buythem because they like them, and they are a beast off road. they are reliable to. majority land rover's ever made are still on the road today.

[14th20thKRHkickass]

@bossadave you really are an idiot aren't you, what an incredibly naiive comment to make, clearly defenders are useful, what you mean to say is no urban dweller should buy or drive one (unless they intend to offroad) because I for instance, live in the countryside and having a defender is vital for when the bad weather kicks in. So really they aren't useless are they? just useless for the school run. Good to see you're not being biased or anything.

[buickboy92]

Wow! how does it do all of those things? like the one with out the driver?

[Timberpants]

@buickboy92 it is the anti stall software in the diesel engine's engine management system...when it senses the revs dropping (at idle) it squirts a bit more fuel in.

[buickboy92]

@Timberpants Is that a standard feature?

[Timberpants]

@buickboy92 Yep!

[buickboy92]

@Timberpants Cool! Do you know if this feature is on the 1995-1997 US Model Years? That would be really cool.

[Timberpants]

@buickboy92 Sorry but it is not. Only on the 2.4litre diesel introduced c.2006.

[buickboy92]

@Timberpants Well that is unfortunate :( too bad they don't sell the Defender anymore in the US. Do you think someone could import a new Defender?

[Timberpants]

@buickboy92 I don't know much about that side of things...also not sure YouTube is the right place to get that sort of advice. I'd try a US fans forum if I was you. Good luck!

[buickboy92]

@Timberpants Thanks for all the advise! I'll start looking for some forums to dig up any information on that subject. Thanks again!

[leonardomoses]

@buickboy92

the last year model you can import into the US is 1997, but its only for the V8 model as this was specifically designed to meet US standards.

you can thank your government for the reason defenders are no longer sold in the US!

*but in 2013 they will be completely redesigning the defender as then it will no longer be able to be sold in Europe or the UK.

[14th20thKRHkickass]

@leonardomoses that must be wrong, defenders no longer being sold in the UK after 2013, farmers will always be buying defenders, why would Land Rover redesign and cut out their biggest market?

[leonardomoses]

@14th20thKRHkickass

NO, IT IS CORRECT !!!

in 2013 the safety design requirements are changing in the UK and Europe and the current defender will need massive modifications to meet those standards and TATA (who now own Land Rover) have said that in 2013 a completely new designed defender will be launched.

the scary thing is there is a strong chance they might borrow a platform from another land rover model to make it more profitable which could mean a defender with independent suspension?

[222world]

Who said dihatsus are the best towing vehicles?

[optimus83iron]

Is it possible? o_0

[HotHeadCJ]

is this tech on the range

[Timberpants]

Anti Stall comes into its own with a manual gearbox. Range Rover is only auto box (with a manual mode called Command Shift) and so does not need it. Will it pull as well as a Defender  - YES!

[nyoko555]

always on point

[kernowrock555]

That is totally amazing! . I'd get one ..but theyre sooo uncomfortable!!!

[danieltait123]

with ease

[trailerfitter]

nice to see a DAF actually moving lol

[storm4X4]

in the UK it is affectionatly called "the chelsea tractor". I had a 300Tdi and it was a true offroader, but on the road it was a dog!

[hipoint02]

"You can't go wrong with a good old simple land rover DEFENDER!!!!!!!!!!!! no pathetic x5 or ml or x6 or cayene or q7 cud have done that."

[subasurf]

Go a step better and drop the Defer engine and drivetrain into a 109 Series III for added simplicity and style ;)

[churd243]

@hipoint02 x5 or the vw would no probs

[n1ckotene]

How cool is that!

[peanuts2105]

I would like to see a yuppie X5 do that...or not

[oedixey]

I chained my 200tdi defender up to my volvo artic loaded with bricks and I made it move across the yard.

The lorry was at about 42 tons and it did take a bit to make her move but she did move.

The yard was also flat as I dont think it would have had a chance on only a slight slope.

[scottstrike10]

well the defender is really a tractor at heart.there is nothing to come close to them off road but on road there the worst thing to travel in

[Timberpants]

yep Defender is not the greatest for a highway trip (particularly if you are over 6' tall). But since the '07 model with new engine and 6 gears it's not bad. But you pick your tool to do the job needed ...for some things I'd consider nothing but a Defender.

[blert88]

I've seen a police range rover pull a fully loaded 38 ton artic that had broken down in a dangerous spot.

[lue1975lue]

any vehicle with a low gear can pull a truck. It's not like they are lifting 12000 pounds, pulling is much easier.

[Timberpants]

Mainly true but I do not fully agree. On ice, or down a hill, it would be easy for most vehicles.

On gravel, and without 'anti stall' technology, I do not think that 'ANY vehicle with low gear' (as you say) could archive this demonstration.

[FlybyStone]

Don't agree either. I got 14 cube of concrete delivered in a 17 ton lorry - which got stuck on grass. Chained up my T reg 110 (TD5) and pulled him out. I didn't 'pull' him out of course -31 ton??, but gave him enough traction to get himself out. Pretty sure my front wheels were off the ground. Lorry driver was well impressed. (Me too). Now MAYBE other vehicles could do that, but I don't care. - My 10 year old Landy up and did it.

[jackboy12345]

that was pretty impressive. best 4x4xfar. haha. :)

[KRSBTLR]

Go show!

[LRTICO]

Nice!!

Go DEFENDER!!!!!

[HyperbirdF6]

very impressive

Land Rover are the best!!

[miniboy84]

very good....

[TheNameIsBEATTIE]

The people at Brands Hatch 4x4 kept the Defender over the Freelander, when Land Rover offered them New for old, The Defender was so much better

[spk197]

that is awesome, I love anti stall.....

[jhonederth]

AHH... I DO THE SAME WITH MY RENAULT 4

[l3sophia]

yes! yes! yes! defender bravo!