BATTLESHIP IRON DUKE FLAG SHIP OF THE GRAND FLEET

[techdavey1000]

Those were the bad old days. Allegedly there were captains who liked to leave the safety doors between gun turrets and magazines open as in this way the shells could be got to the guns faster. Unfortunately this serious breach of Health & Safety led to the comment "There seems to be something wrong with our ships". Even today there are captains who think they know it all as recent events in Italy have shown.

[boleynali]

There is one warship still afloat that served at Jutland,the light cruiser hms Caroline,which is in Belfast harbour in Ireland ,right next to where the Titanic was built.

[zarquon53]

@biggayal1992 At the end of World War 2 Britain was utterly bankrupt , owed billions , and had almost nothing with which to buy food and other basic necessities from abroad .

Some things were still on Ration in 1954 when I was born , and as a toddler I remeber me and my Mum queuing at the wood hut behind the church for tall blue and white tins of powdered milk " For the Children of Britain from the people of Canada "

It's nonsense to think there was any money to spare for that .

[crpdst2003]

for sheer number of actions and survival the HMS Warspite definitely should have been preserved.....

[FRAGIORGIO1]

The Iron Duke class sister ships were HMS Marlborough, HMS Benbow, and HMS Emperor of India.

[FRAGIORGIO1]

At 2:15 I believe that is HMS Neptune without a rear mast in the foreground. I once made a model of her, among others I made of the Grand Fleet battleships, battlecruisers, armoured and light cruisers, and destroyers. Shame that I have them no longer. I had a friend named Ron Howard that was building the Hochseesflotte and was working much faster than I ! --An arms race, and in the Los Angeles Catholic seminary!

[jonewer]

Fascinating footage of the goings on inside a turret.

Poor Jellicoe. Shafted by an ungrateful nation too ignorant to understand. We did the great man a great dis-service.

[Jedermann101]

RIP and honor for all those brave men who died for what?

Peace!

Miguel

[mrmarkymark77]

can you imagine the coal needed to run these monsters?

[zarquon53]

@mrmarkymark77 Actually , the battleships weren't the greediest coal-eaters in the fleet .

It has to do with the installed horsepower ( number and type of boilers and engines ) and the amount of other machinery ( electric Generators , pumps ,and hydraulic machinery -- if fitted , for the gun turrets ) that is being driven by the steam plant .

these ships did an average 21 knots , so were not fast .

Cruisers and Destroyers could eat more , proportionally .

[GGBundy]

Some really good Jutland footage!! Cool video!!

[studentjohn36]

No mention of Iron Duke's afterlife as gunnery training ship and later grounded base ship at Scapa. Shame!

[elswick1542]

@studentjohn36 Ran out of time on the audio tracks unfortunately,have a good photo of the Duke fitted with a 5.25 DP gun in B turret for trials.

[elswick1542]

@biggayal1992 Next to Victory with a bronze statue of ADM Jellicoe on the bridge.

[ToonandBBfan]

I bet it was a hell of an impressive sight to the see the entire Grand Fleet steaming in their columns!

[m60a3ttsmilwaukee]

the other seaplane tender hms campaignia (short-184 recon ) did not even leave on time to join the dreadnought force...it missed signal flags signal...and was too slow ...so jellicoe sent it home...this was his only main mistake...

[m60a3ttsmilwaukee]

correction...they had a form of wireless radio that beeped in morse code...but it was not working properly on hms lion...and the short-184 seaplane tender that rutland flew off...its not jellicoes fault that battlecruisers exploded and beaty flag signals screw up...he had to be cautious about torpedo and mine attacks!

[elswick1542]

@m60a3ttsmilwaukee The Seaplane carrier that made it was HMS Engadine the last surviving Jutland vet Henry Alingham our second last WW1 vet was on board he died only last year.

[m60a3ttsmilwaukee]

if I had a time machine (tardis) jutland 1916 is the very first battle I would visit!...

[m60a3ttsmilwaukee]

excellent posting!...very many military armchair buffs are ignorant on ww-1!...remember these superdreadnoghts did not have radios and still used signal flags!...they did not have radar or even many seaplanes for recon! we should not judge harshly the admirals on both sides of this super huge battle! wargame it many times first or shut up!..they all did their very very best and we honor them!

[elswick1542]

@m60a3ttsmilwaukee Absolutely 100% agree!

[XavierCarbonelli]

I've got a small wooden barrel ornament (probably designed to hold pens & pencils) made from the wood of this ship after it was scrapped.

[TheMe110]

I have a Model of this in 1/700 from Airfix!

[elswick1542]

@TheMe110 Airfix have just re released Iron Duke and Warspite,I built the Airfix Bismarck kit so far back I cant remember probably 1976.

[sbd650]

29 December this year marks the 150th anniversary of the launching of HMS Warrior, the first armored warship built completely of iron!

[sbd403]

Maybe this is a stupid question, but ... why the British failed to preserve this ship as a museum?

[elswick1542]

Warship nostalgia started in UK in the late 1960,s unfortunately by that time almost all the famous WW2/WW1 ships had been scraped so we have only only a few such as the cruiser Belfast.

[sbd403]

Boy Seaman 1st Class Jack Cornwell ( John Travers Cornwell, 8 January 1900 2 June 1916 ),"It is not wealth or ancestry

but honourable conduct and a noble disposition that maketh men great."

[transonicbuoy1]

Then Craig Armstrong has nicked it. The song is the pretty famous theme to the Guns of Navarone, filmed in the 1960s.

[elswick1542]

Guns of Navarone is at the start,at 3.09 the Craig Armstrong track starts.

[Jepperstep]

yeah what is that song at 3:09...i'd like to know as well

[gtasaluversm]

whats the name of the song at 3:09?

[elswick1542]

The track at 3.09 is Escape by Craig Armstrong from the 1999 film Plunket and Maclane.

[elanxx]

Anyone what the music is at 3:09?

[TheZuikaku]

Yeah..

[sailingforde04]

Its a shame that the WW1 super dreadnoughts where scrapped so hastily. If they had survived into world war 2, despite the fact that they were not modern , they could have made fine convoy escorts , gun platforms and perhaps been used as deterents

[elswick1542]

HMS Tiger was scraped in 1932,it was newer and a better ship as built than the IJN Kongo that was without doubt the most successful Japanese warship ,if modernized a superb escort for aircraft carriers.

[jers59]

@elswick1542 Have to disagree best jap warships carriers Shokaku and Zuikaku both survived to 1944, or heavy cruisers Tone or Chokai. I beleve jap heavy cruisers have record for hitting target from longest distance at battle of Java Sea against Exeter

[elswick1542]

@jers59 The IJN fired a huge number of shells at Exeter before they got a hit.

[elswick1542]

@jers59 Slight missunderstanding I should said most succesfull BB/BC.

[jers59]

@elswick1542 Lot of obsolete scrap iron and some new construction sunk in the 1920,s could be 1 of many ships perhaps this record was beating by former president Bush secretary of navy who came from shipyard that builds the navy new destroyers he sank almost all of the navy Spruance class destroyers amphibious ships that still had lot of years left in the hull and were still capable combatants

[FRAGIORGIO1]

@jers59 The Japanese had some fine heavy cruisers in WW II.

[jers59]

@FRAGIORGIO1 Agree the Kummano may have been the best of jap cruisers

[FRAGIORGIO1]

@jers59  Fine ships indeed, and the Japanese were very good sailors and fighters.

[akula971]

Warspite, Renown, Repulse,Royal Sovereign and many more did survive into WW2. The greatest shame was Warspite being scrapped, A veteran of Jutland, active service in WW2, should have been a monument to the Royal Navy and all that served.

[elswick1542]

Warspite should have been repaired cost no object with parts from Queen Elizabeth,Valiant and Malaya,then birthed alongside HMS Victory and polished daily to a deep shine!

[dougstiro]

I really do like the ships of the Dreadnought period before all the AA batteries and such came along.

Was that the Queen Mary at 4:36, Invincible at 4:44 or were they just random ships?

[elswick1542]

Dreadnoughts just look right 100% agree.

I think the explosion is actually the German BB Nassau after Billy Mitchell dropped a very large white phosphorus bomb on it in a post war test.

[ToonandBBfan]

Billy Mitchell sank the Ostfriesland.

Her sister ship Thuringen was sunk as a target by the French post war but I dunno if there is any footage of that.

Great video - Thanks

[elswick1542]

@ToonandBBfan

It must be Ostfriesland,IIR same class as Nassau.

[jers59]

@elswick1542 The Ostfriesland as well as Virginia and New Jersey turned turtle and sank they did not explode no explosives aboard, In fact all 3 ships have been dived on off virginia capes and are upside down. The smaller ship might be kraut light cruiser Frankfurt sunk in same test

[elswick1542]

@jers59 Probably wrong but IIR at least 1 test in the 20 may have been RN not USN involved droping a very large incenduary bomb on a BB thats the picture on the vid.

[hoplite1766]

John Keegan's book 'The price of admiralty' has perhaps the best account of the battle of jutland ever written by a military historian, a required read to all battleship buffs.

[hoplite1766]

Iron Duke had the best gunnery hits percentage at Jutland of all the dreadnoughts due to Jellicoe's insistence on regular practice drills. Jellicoe fought a good strategic battle, most problems stemmed from signals being misinterpreted in the smoke and spray, and it was this that enabled the high seas fleet to escape before certain destruction.

[dougstiro]

Just a pity she was firing duff shells wasnt it, otherwise the German armour would have really been put to the test.

[hoplite1766]

Yes that was a problem, one among many, faulty cordite, poor signaling, and poor flash precauctions due to insistence on high firing rates. Did you read Keegans book by any chance, its a blinder!

[dougstiro]

nope, have read Cambells Jutland awhile back

[bv141a]

@hoplite1766 all Keegans books top shelf

[joeybadass4999]

wow

[Caecarulf]

Great video!

Ulf

[elswick1542]

Thanks.

[ToonandBBfan]

A fine WW1 Dreadnought

[elswick1542]

One of the best.

[gateprayer1]

It was a really nice battle ship,it´s the typ of dreatnought.

[elswick1542]

Technically a super Dreadnought.

[EmperorLongo]

That was really cool. I've always thought Iron Duke was a very handsome ship with an impressive broadside. The underway scenes are a vivid reminder of the raw power of the Royal Navy's battle line. BTW, I recall that the series World War One had great overhead shots of the Iron Duke steaming, in case you'd ever modify this video someday.

[elswick1542]

Always looking for film of battleships so will try to find that footage thanks for tip and feed back.

[robinhood48]

1:08

HMS Iron Duke

HMS Victory

HMS Elizabeth (?)

[elswick1542]

@

robinhood

1:08

Painted in about 1921/22 but representative of about 1916/17.

HMS Iron Duke

HMS Victory

and the third looks like a Queen Elizabeth class,so absolutely right.

[robinhood48]

@elswick1542

All right then.

And now we need the name of the tug boat!

LOL

[elswick1542]

@robinhood48

The tug boat was called the Black Pig after a famous pirate ship..................LOL.

[shathriel]

the duke survived into WW2 has a depot ship partially disarmed but was damaged and beached after being attacked by the luftwaffe if i remember correctly.

nice video. :)

[elswick1542]

Yes I found a few pictures from the 30,s turrets and armour removed,deleted a picture after completing as I noticed a 5.25" DP gun turret in B position,the Duke was used as a trials ship at the time.

[DrGull1888]

By the way, who is the lady, christianing the ship? Arthur Wellesley's daughter?

[elswick1542]

Its the Duchess of Wellington but I cant work this out as Dorothy Wellesley became Duchess in 1914,2 years latter and Elizabeth Wellesley died in 1904 the family nose looks to be present so it could be a grand daughter.

[NAIAD49]

We should call one of our ships The Iron Lady......in tribute to Mrs Thatcher,and send it to the Falklands as guard ship.

[elswick1542]

When Thatch dies have no doubt they will.

[DrGull1888]

Are there any pictures about her time as training ship?

[DrGull1888]

I mean in the net.

[elswick1542]

Yes I found a number on the net from the 1930,s as a training ship and trials ship with some of the turrets and armour belt removed,could not fit them in,nothing from the depot ship era though.

[matamuelas]

Hello!

She still remembers the Dreadnought in some aspects,isn't?

Great photograph at 2:32!

I only missed the technical data you used to add.

5*!

[elswick1542]

Hello

matamuelas

Very similar hull shape to the Dreadnought,picture after launch may even be Dreadnought,left out the tech details due to time and length.

thanks for the feed back.