granny shifting not double clutching like u should! lucky that 100 shots of nos didnt blow the welds on the intake! Now me and mad scientist have to take a rip apart the block, and replace piston rings u fried!
@nattapolcha I see what you mean now. I thought he was going through one gear per clutch engagement, but it's definitely two clutch presses per downshift. Thanks for clarifying.
ignorant question : why does he have to double clutch ? can't he just press the clutch, downshift with the heel and toe and then release the clutch ? make it all in one movement ? why does he have to first put it it neutral, then downshift ?
@pcgamesolution Because he do double clutching rev match. Depress clutch at first to release stress on dog-clutch and move lever to N then release clutch to reconnect engine and tranny. When he blip throttle while engine connect to tranny power from engine rotate tranny to match wheel speed, so engine-tranny-wheel match together. Finally depress clutch again to cut-off engine power then move lever to lower gear and release clutch to reconnect engine to tranny. Perfectly match :)
@pcgamesolution If you're FIA GT or V8 supercar racer you won't worry about double clutching rev-match because it can't do. Only heel-toe or normal rev-match can do because that's use sequential shifter rather than H-shifter. Double clutching take an advantage by using H-shifter because you can downshift as skip gear sequence (ie; 6th to 3rd). If you use H-shifter and do normally heel-toe, you can't downshift as skip gear. You'll hear grinding noise and tranny can't engage.
As I'm sure others have pointed out, he's not double clutching, he's activating the clutch once for each gear shift. Sometimes he's down shifting multiple times before upshifting, with rapid actuation of the clutch (and brake and gas) but this is not double clutch shifting.
@billythekid You're absolutely wrong. He's doing double clutch rev-match. Maybe your eye can't catch his footwork. He use H-patern gearbox but he do rev-match downshift as sequential instead skip sequence.
@iXiSWiiFTiXi yes...you hit the gas (with your heel) while breaking (with your toe)...hence heel and toe ;).a lil bit more is involved ie clutch, downshifting etc...but thats the jist of it...the purpose of heel and toe i think is to already b in the right gear when exiting a corner...but i would imagine it could be used for other stuff also, (maybe drifting...but idk) but if you are new to manual i really dont recommend using these techniques as they can do damage to your car if not done right
@GenomeSoldier71 It's amazing, almost every car racing video i go there's a F&F quote in it haha, i was thinking about it when i searched this video up
Im confused.. Isnt heal-toe just a way of doing double clutch shifts? It looks like the same thing to me.. Is the heal-toe thing when you need to brake at the same time as downshifting? Can anyone explain the difference?
not hating but why double clutch a full syncro box it wastes time unless its a dog engagement box or a old skool crash box . still youve got it well dialed in.
@JKirkleski your lucky that hundred shot of nos didn't blow the welds on the intake, ..... almost had me?.... Now me and the mad scientist got to rip apart the block and replace the piston rings you fried, ask any racer and real racer, it don't matter if u win by and inch or a mile, WINNINGS WINNING! i know like every word to that film i could literally watch it in my head
i never realized i drove that good till seeing this...this is how i drive my daily driver 5speed soch neon with full bult on...i shift/drive just like him.
i didnt even realize what he was doing until 2:08 with the heel-toe.. but after that, my mind was blown to say the least. this is talent (im 16 just learning how to drive so save the shit)
@bigwillchill Consider the driveline in 3 segments: 1. The engine 2. Clutch / Front half of gearbox 3. Rear half of gearbox / Final drive (diff). Double clutching synchronises the speed of the front half of the gearbox to the final drive (diff / roadspeed), and the throttle blip during the double clutching synchronises the engine rpm, to the front half of the gearbox speed. When executed together, the whole driveline has a similar rotational speed, making gear changes smooth.
@boardmanj so just to make gear shifting smoother? (you didnt need to explain the engine clutch rear diff thing) but for others who dont know its cool.
ive never had trouble down shifting, rev the engine a little before shifting and it helps down shift from a straight away to a sharp turn
double clutching is not full nessicary in transmmissions with synchros, in dog boxes it is. if you dont the next lower gear will be spinning faster and will make a grind when ingageing. he has to release and press the clutch in again because he needs to alter the speed to the transmission (because you cant change whe speed of the transmission with the clutch in)
@robbyrob707 So he's stomping on the clutch pedal twice because he has tourettes? He could easily just rev match on the heel toe but he chooses to double clutch.
@uri112189 double clutching is downshifting/braking usually for turns, and not messing the balance of the car. If you just let go of the clutch while breaking without hitting the gas i believe you risk locking up the driving wheels.
Unless he has straight cut gears, there is NO need for double clutching....none. Single clutching a car and using the throttle is all you need to do. If it was so important he would double clutch on the upshifts too.
@kyledude120 Bullcrap. Get in a semi truck where you have to double clutch on upshifts AND downshifts and employ your logic. See how far you get when it won't shift and instead just grinds grinds grinds.....you can't force a Fuller semi transmission either. Like I said earlier, there is never a need to double clutch a car and if it were important, he would double clutch on the way up thru the gears too.
@LT1HILLINGHOE You're right, there's no need to double clutch a synchronized transmission. The point of double clutching here isn't to keep the gears from grinding, but to prevent the lurch you get on a downshift by matching the engine RPMs, and retaining as even weight distribution as possible. This is how race drivers don't spin or lose time in corners. Drifters also use heel-toe control and double clutching to maintain control during a drift, another topic and application entirely, though.
@trippzero Yeah heel and toe is fine...I have used that technique many times. But, double clucthing is pointless. Using the throttle properly and single clutching is adequate for any application in a car. If you do that there won't be any lurching.
@LT1HILLINGHOE You're right again, sir. Single clutch (or none at all even,) is peachy (though clutch-less shifting isn't recommended.) I retract my previous statement on the "why" he's double clutching. I can't believe I didn't think of it before. it's a race ready car, some (or even half) of the dogs on his synchros have probably been removed for the sake of shifting speed. Single clutch upshifts are probably ok, but on a downshift, better safe than risk losing time over a bad shift.
@JaaS0on Double clutching saves synchros? A gear is mesh cut so they are synchronized with each other so no double clutching is necessary but instead you say double clutching is needed to save a synchronizer? Tell you what...you do all the double clutching you want and I'll just single clutch as always and never have any "synchronizer" problems while passing you. Go into a respected transmission shop with your synchronizer logic and see how many laughs you get from transmission specialists.
@LT1HILLINGHOE sorry i read the "saving synchros" from ppl on a forum discussing how they work. As far as single vs double, could you please explain to me why this race driver is doing DCHT and not just HT if it is faster?
@JaaS0on Maybe he wants to exercise his leg, maybe he doesn't have a synchronized tranny or maybe he just sucks at racing. Ask that driver who is doing the clutching if it is that important to you because I don't care how he drives or how many times he clutches. I only speak for myself.
isn't that called Heel-toeing? although i saw he the driver double clutch, it's still call heel-toe because he uses his heel to blip the throttle? I thought Double clutching is just shifting down gear without braking.
@mashimartin He's doing both. Heel-toe is used to apply throttle while breaking (obviously) He's using it to double clutch his downshifts while breaking so he has the least amount of breaking time to increase lap times and maintain control. Heel-toe can also be used to apply throttle while in gear, while breaking and counter steering to control a car in a slide (drifting.)
has no one thought of the car not having scynros? might just be a straight cut gear box with no sync, as in he has to double clutch in order to down shift.... and also if it did have scynros they would prolly be shredded after one track day
I don't know if I'm right but double clutching are often done when you on speeding on higher rpm then downshfiting to match the rev and the clutch. If you drive a like normal on pubilcity then i don't think you need to double clutch. IF the clutch and syncros goes bad then drop the tranmssion and inspect and change..
I don't understand the need for clutching two times. One can often pull out of gear when the gearbox isn't put under load. Then it's easy to adapt rpm and make a quick clutched shift. This helps a lot when downshifting on trucks where the clutch disk and clutch shaft are heavy, big parts. The synchro rings don't handle it well.
@surlograsp To save your clutch and syncros, and to have your engine at a high rpm going into the turn so you dont slow down when you down shift due to engine braking
@noptig yeah i know, but why -> opening -> closing -> throttle -> opening -> shifting -> closing?! and not just -> open -> throttle ->shifting -> closing? thats my question.
@surlograsp If you use your second example, the clutch spins way faster than the engine, and only single clutching wouldn't allow your clutch to slow down. Double clutching lets your clutch slow down, and rev matching (Throttle) makes your engine speed up. These combined will get your engine rpm and clutch rpm close, minimizing slippage when shifting, saving your clutch and syncros.
@noptig eh guy? the clutch pressure plate is jointed with the axle of the transmission, isn it? or is the clutch for grading the actuator from the engine and the gear box spins with the clutch?
@A99YearOld youre kidding right? what kind of argument is that... climate control is a relatively new piece of technology, yet we dont see it in race cars. why? because it has nothing to do with racing. paddle shifters on the other hand, are of use in racing. you dont make sense. what youre sayign about the prius is irrelevant in this argument. we are not trying to save gas here, were trying to go faster.
@dfragglet Overhyped by the "Oh god, my gas pedal got stuck" .. yes, but that kinda pathetic shit only happens in America. In every other country in the world the Prius is an amazing piece of technology, liked by some and disliked by others, as everybody has the right to have his or her opinion. It lives up to it's claims, but at the end of the day it'll be the driver that needs use a car in the way it should be used.
@A99YearOld the Prius is supposed to be a "greener" car but how can it do that when the battery contains nickel, which is mined in Ontario Canada. That smelted nickel then has to travel (via container ship) to Europe to be refined, then to China to be made into "nickel foam," then to Japan for assembly, and finally to the country where the car is sold. so it costs a great deal, both in money and in pollution.
@A99YearOld the process of smelting nickel causes huge amounts of pollution and causes acid rain, it claims a mpg of 75mpg but there are diesel's out there that can do that. before a Prius even rolls of the dealer forecourt it's done as much damage to the environment as a Land rover Discovery V6 twin turbo diesel that spends all day running up and down the M4.
@dfragglet I saw that episode of Top Gear too, so your whole story is based on the 2nd generation Prius. Since the launch of the 3rd generation Prius all of the batteries are built in a factory in Japan. This is the same factory that got hit by the earthquake and tsunami. See this article: motors.mega.mu/news/2011/03/15/toyota-says-quake-hit-plants-escape-major-structural-damage/ ("But the temblor... and power shutdowns").
@dfragglet In the end I agree with you that there aren't any green cars. It will always be up to the driver to drive environment friendly or not, it has nothing to do with the car itself. I think that people that drive environment friendly are better off with a slightly larger engine, since that will do less rpm at the same speed and gear than a smaller engine. Again: it's all about how you drive your car.
@leagle0147 um rally cars went just as fast if not faster in the '80's before paddle shifters look up group B cuz it was banned cuz they went too fast and killed too many people. and the Venom GT out runs the Veyron Super Sport to 215mph with a regular stick with a clutch 15.6 seconds from 0-215mph the Veyron SS takes over 20 seconds to do it
@bukakee1 I totally agree it's pussy, but in a really high powered car (like a RWD Zonda R) It's probably best to keep two hands on the wheel at all times :) If you value your life, that is.
@bukakee1 you cant be talking about being a pussy when youre driving a AWD subi, plus have you ever heard of an F1 driver? they use paddles and let me see you call them a pussy when driving one of these pussy mobiles.
The concept is called rev matching in some magazine I read years back. Maybe Import Tuner or something. Rev matching is simply giving your engine some gas before you let the clutch out into gear so the engine speed is about the same as it would be in gear. The result is a smooth engagement and transition from gear to gear or neutral into gear. If you don't rev match you get that jerking feeling of near whiplash when your engine surges from 750rpms to 5,300 rpms.
This isn't double clutching, it's a badass showing us how to properly heel-toe when downshifting. A double clutch shift is pressing in clutch, shifting to neutral, reving motor, pressing in clutch a second time (hence the double), and putting into next gear. If your car isn't 20 years old, you probably have syncros in your transmission and do not need to double shift.
@jac0441 You need to watch the video again. He is double clutching and executing heel toe. Double clutching is pointless without using heel toe .... and Visa Versa
This guy is right its not double clutching he is down shifting at the same time as he is slowing down and bringing the RPM's up so the engine doesnt slow it down but the brakes do. Hence hill toe movement between the gas and brake pedal.
I do this on my car for almost EVERY down shift... clutch lasts longer... because you're matching the speed of the drive shaft to the engine. When you come into a corner you need to apply the brake as well, so it's the "heel-toe-double-clutch-downshift".... which he does in this vid a couple of times too.
he uses heel and toe to match the speed of engine and gearbox intake(conserves the clutch) and he uses double clutching to match speed between both gearbox shafts(conserves the synchro rings)
@hirirsi I googled it and found out (because I had no idea either) That its needed in unsynchronized manual gearboxes to prevent the tranny from breaking. It also cuts down on wear in modern gearboxes in theory
It´s possible to do downshifting and heel and toe while I´m clutching??I think this is faster than heel and toe with double clutch,because in this way you clutch only once,am I right??
@Nivolaneuve1 u smart ass...this is a professional rally driver and uses this method and u think u know better?next time keep ur comment four yourself...
And double clutching downshifts isn't pointless, that's like saying downshifting is pointless. You should downshift; you should match the rpms when you down shift; you should double clutch to reduce wear when downshifting.
You can double clutch up-shifting, as well. (I don't)
Moving parts wear. . . faster than normal moving parts wear faster. . .
@dozedrift There's really no need in most situations but if your car has a gear that is a little difficult to shift into, it can make your shift easier. I once had a Geo Metro which was like that in second gear. I always double clutched when downshiftig.
@superco0l88 No because its revving the engine up to higher RPM's so in turn when he shifts into a lower gear its less torque on the engine and its easier on the clutch since its not just engaging and spining to those higher RPM's with no help at all.
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granny shifting not double clutching like u should! lucky that 100 shots of nos didnt blow the welds on the intake! Now me and mad scientist have to take a rip apart the block, and replace piston rings u fried!
XxGeNuiN3xX 3 weeks ago
isn't that rev matching?!
OoZeROEpiCBruTaloO 4 weeks ago
Omg I have to see that in slow motion to get what's he doin'.
moh459 1 month ago
@moh459 clutch-N-lower gear
barclay2099 1 month ago
@nattapolcha I see what you mean now. I thought he was going through one gear per clutch engagement, but it's definitely two clutch presses per downshift. Thanks for clarifying.
billythekid 1 month ago
ignorant question : why does he have to double clutch ? can't he just press the clutch, downshift with the heel and toe and then release the clutch ? make it all in one movement ? why does he have to first put it it neutral, then downshift ?
pcgamesolution 1 month ago
@pcgamesolution Because he do double clutching rev match. Depress clutch at first to release stress on dog-clutch and move lever to N then release clutch to reconnect engine and tranny. When he blip throttle while engine connect to tranny power from engine rotate tranny to match wheel speed, so engine-tranny-wheel match together. Finally depress clutch again to cut-off engine power then move lever to lower gear and release clutch to reconnect engine to tranny. Perfectly match :)
nattapolcha 1 month ago
@pcgamesolution If you're FIA GT or V8 supercar racer you won't worry about double clutching rev-match because it can't do. Only heel-toe or normal rev-match can do because that's use sequential shifter rather than H-shifter. Double clutching take an advantage by using H-shifter because you can downshift as skip gear sequence (ie; 6th to 3rd). If you use H-shifter and do normally heel-toe, you can't downshift as skip gear. You'll hear grinding noise and tranny can't engage.
nattapolcha 1 month ago
WTF PRO
DanBang10 1 month ago
VEGETA !!
kent8blue2007 1 month ago
@kent8blue2007 lol how do you think?? XD
nattapolcha 1 month ago
As I'm sure others have pointed out, he's not double clutching, he's activating the clutch once for each gear shift. Sometimes he's down shifting multiple times before upshifting, with rapid actuation of the clutch (and brake and gas) but this is not double clutch shifting.
billythekid 1 month ago
@billythekid You're absolutely wrong. He's doing double clutch rev-match. Maybe your eye can't catch his footwork. He use H-patern gearbox but he do rev-match downshift as sequential instead skip sequence.
nattapolcha 1 month ago
I'm new at manual. So when you heel toe, do you press the gas a little bit?
iXiSWiiFTiXi 2 months ago
@iXiSWiiFTiXi yes...you hit the gas (with your heel) while breaking (with your toe)...hence heel and toe ;).a lil bit more is involved ie clutch, downshifting etc...but thats the jist of it...the purpose of heel and toe i think is to already b in the right gear when exiting a corner...but i would imagine it could be used for other stuff also, (maybe drifting...but idk) but if you are new to manual i really dont recommend using these techniques as they can do damage to your car if not done right
jaypierre904 2 months ago
funny how it says double. i see over quadruple clutching. lol
TheMustangfan101 3 months ago
@TheMustangfan101 Shit, me too lmao.
D0mSupra 2 months ago
DK
BoostPhD 3 months ago
streets closed pizza boy
itzzspencer 3 months ago 11
@itzzspencer
Find another way home!
ha ha ha, you know the pizza guy is actually the director?
GenomeSoldier71 3 months ago
@GenomeSoldier71 It's amazing, almost every car racing video i go there's a F&F quote in it haha, i was thinking about it when i searched this video up
TheDM75 3 months ago
@itzzspencer God damn speed racers.
syzeone71 2 weeks ago
Nice heel-toe work as well.
HPG45 3 months ago
like if fast and furious brought you here! :]
Kruptmexican33647 4 months ago
if u dont heel toe.. well.. it's a cheating method cause the car remains stable under braking while downshifting to low gears..
AntDX316 4 months ago
Im confused.. Isnt heal-toe just a way of doing double clutch shifts? It looks like the same thing to me.. Is the heal-toe thing when you need to brake at the same time as downshifting? Can anyone explain the difference?
Svumpukkel4eva 5 months ago
@Svumpukkel4eva I just answered my own question simply by googling it.. Nvm :)
Svumpukkel4eva 5 months ago
@Svumpukkel4eva looks like he puts toe on brake and heel to accelerator on down shift.
Most downshifts use the brakes else you will blow a gasket or a seal of something bigger.
BrisbaneGoFish 4 months ago
@BrisbaneGoFish its called heel-toe...
stephencoxismint 3 months ago
did he win? :)
RepublicCommando29 5 months ago
its like f@cking ballet!!! just tap dancing over the pedals.
twistedtoobe 5 months ago
didnt even read the description but i instantly knew it was a suby :)
LeCobra992 5 months ago
not hating but why double clutch a full syncro box it wastes time unless its a dog engagement box or a old skool crash box . still youve got it well dialed in.
666gravedigger 6 months ago
granny shiftin' not double clutchin' like ya should
JKirkleski 6 months ago 64
@JKirkleski IT DOES'NT MATTER IF YOU WIN BY AN INCH OR A MILE........WINNING IS WINNING......
gixxer450 5 months ago
@gixxer450 GRANNY SHIFTING WHEN YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOUBLE CLUTCHING!
rawfusion45m 4 months ago
@rawfusion45m YOU LUCKY THAT 100 SHOT OF "NOS" DIDN'T BLOW THE WELDS ON THE INTAKE!
gixxer450 4 months ago
@JKirkleski lol all talk
TheBoyChur 4 months ago
@JKirkleski haha vin disel
BakinErryDay 3 months ago
@JKirkleski your lucky that hundred shot of nos didn't blow the welds on the intake, ..... almost had me?.... Now me and the mad scientist got to rip apart the block and replace the piston rings you fried, ask any racer and real racer, it don't matter if u win by and inch or a mile, WINNINGS WINNING! i know like every word to that film i could literally watch it in my head
stephencoxismint 3 months ago 2
@JKirkleski Where is that line from? I see it everywhere
Catchaontheflipsyde 3 months ago
@Catchaontheflipsyde Fast and Furious 1
5ky5tr1d3r 2 months ago
@JKirkleski Lucky that hundred shot of NOS didn't blow the welds on the intake.
dragythuno 2 months ago
Bugeye Subaru FTW
Nikabbott 6 months ago
i never realized i drove that good till seeing this...this is how i drive my daily driver 5speed soch neon with full bult on...i shift/drive just like him.
CleddaSrh 6 months ago
i didnt even realize what he was doing until 2:08 with the heel-toe.. but after that, my mind was blown to say the least. this is talent (im 16 just learning how to drive so save the shit)
fuckthewmg1 6 months ago in playlist drift
@bigwillchill it keeps your rpms up
166614 7 months ago
what is the purpose of double clutching?
bigwillchill 7 months ago
@bigwillchill Consider the driveline in 3 segments: 1. The engine 2. Clutch / Front half of gearbox 3. Rear half of gearbox / Final drive (diff). Double clutching synchronises the speed of the front half of the gearbox to the final drive (diff / roadspeed), and the throttle blip during the double clutching synchronises the engine rpm, to the front half of the gearbox speed. When executed together, the whole driveline has a similar rotational speed, making gear changes smooth.
boardmanj 6 months ago
@boardmanj so just to make gear shifting smoother? (you didnt need to explain the engine clutch rear diff thing) but for others who dont know its cool.
ive never had trouble down shifting, rev the engine a little before shifting and it helps down shift from a straight away to a sharp turn
bigwillchill 6 months ago
damnit, makes me wish my tranny and clutch was that easy to use :(
redsohc 7 months ago
double clutching isnt always about saving syncros, its about keeping the revs at the optimum place while decelerating
p1ayerB 7 months ago
lol hat 0:40 he double clutches, brakes and stepped on the gas at same time ^^ i already tried this at my car but it isnt possible there -.-
Hardc0reHumm3l 7 months ago
double clutching is not full nessicary in transmmissions with synchros, in dog boxes it is. if you dont the next lower gear will be spinning faster and will make a grind when ingageing. he has to release and press the clutch in again because he needs to alter the speed to the transmission (because you cant change whe speed of the transmission with the clutch in)
JasonMann8 8 months ago
@JasonMann8 you say its not necessary yet hes doing it. When you double clutch your downshifting and saving the synchros some work.
JaaS0on 7 months ago
wow
ChrisYoungGunn 8 months ago
Double clutching is for downshifts not upshifts. U don't need to hold or match revs on upshifts cos u shud be fully throttling anyway :-)
ledger1978 8 months ago
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Hes not even double clutching
robbyrob707 8 months ago
@robbyrob707 So he's stomping on the clutch pedal twice because he has tourettes? He could easily just rev match on the heel toe but he chooses to double clutch.
Talta184 7 months ago
@Talta184 he does heel toe at 0:43
shadooky 7 months ago
when does he double clutch? all im seeing is normal clutch use and heel toe
gerard4811 8 months ago
@gerard4811 When he pushes in the clutch and gas multiple times within like a second lol
famousbro1 8 months ago
so double clutching is so that ur rpms stay up so u dnt loose the power when shifting.
uri112189 8 months ago
@uri112189 double clutching is downshifting/braking usually for turns, and not messing the balance of the car. If you just let go of the clutch while breaking without hitting the gas i believe you risk locking up the driving wheels.
JaaS0on 7 months ago
He must be really late
Sunfadedlovejaded 8 months ago 26
Unless he has straight cut gears, there is NO need for double clutching....none. Single clutching a car and using the throttle is all you need to do. If it was so important he would double clutch on the upshifts too.
LT1HILLINGHOE 9 months ago
@LT1HILLINGHOE you never double clutch on up shifts, because the rpms are already up there is no need to match the rpms
kyledude120 9 months ago
@kyledude120 Bullcrap. Get in a semi truck where you have to double clutch on upshifts AND downshifts and employ your logic. See how far you get when it won't shift and instead just grinds grinds grinds.....you can't force a Fuller semi transmission either. Like I said earlier, there is never a need to double clutch a car and if it were important, he would double clutch on the way up thru the gears too.
LT1HILLINGHOE 9 months ago
@LT1HILLINGHOE You're right, there's no need to double clutch a synchronized transmission. The point of double clutching here isn't to keep the gears from grinding, but to prevent the lurch you get on a downshift by matching the engine RPMs, and retaining as even weight distribution as possible. This is how race drivers don't spin or lose time in corners. Drifters also use heel-toe control and double clutching to maintain control during a drift, another topic and application entirely, though.
trippzero 9 months ago
@trippzero Yeah heel and toe is fine...I have used that technique many times. But, double clucthing is pointless. Using the throttle properly and single clutching is adequate for any application in a car. If you do that there won't be any lurching.
LT1HILLINGHOE 9 months ago
@LT1HILLINGHOE You're right again, sir. Single clutch (or none at all even,) is peachy (though clutch-less shifting isn't recommended.) I retract my previous statement on the "why" he's double clutching. I can't believe I didn't think of it before. it's a race ready car, some (or even half) of the dogs on his synchros have probably been removed for the sake of shifting speed. Single clutch upshifts are probably ok, but on a downshift, better safe than risk losing time over a bad shift.
trippzero 9 months ago
@LT1HILLINGHOE double clutching saves synchros or makes up for the lack of them.
JaaS0on 7 months ago
@JaaS0on Double clutching saves synchros? A gear is mesh cut so they are synchronized with each other so no double clutching is necessary but instead you say double clutching is needed to save a synchronizer? Tell you what...you do all the double clutching you want and I'll just single clutch as always and never have any "synchronizer" problems while passing you. Go into a respected transmission shop with your synchronizer logic and see how many laughs you get from transmission specialists.
LT1HILLINGHOE 7 months ago
@LT1HILLINGHOE sorry i read the "saving synchros" from ppl on a forum discussing how they work. As far as single vs double, could you please explain to me why this race driver is doing DCHT and not just HT if it is faster?
JaaS0on 7 months ago
@JaaS0on Maybe he wants to exercise his leg, maybe he doesn't have a synchronized tranny or maybe he just sucks at racing. Ask that driver who is doing the clutching if it is that important to you because I don't care how he drives or how many times he clutches. I only speak for myself.
LT1HILLINGHOE 7 months ago
@JaaS0on Race cars typically use straight cut unsynchronized gear boxes. That's why.
trippzero 7 months ago
@trippzero Definitely true, and also helps in a car with a synchro gearbox as it reduces or eliminates the amount of work the synchro's need to do.
boardmanj 6 months ago
thats insane
DaJ50 9 months ago
isn't that called Heel-toeing? although i saw he the driver double clutch, it's still call heel-toe because he uses his heel to blip the throttle? I thought Double clutching is just shifting down gear without braking.
mashimartin 9 months ago
@mashimartin He's doing both. Heel-toe is used to apply throttle while breaking (obviously) He's using it to double clutch his downshifts while breaking so he has the least amount of breaking time to increase lap times and maintain control. Heel-toe can also be used to apply throttle while in gear, while breaking and counter steering to control a car in a slide (drifting.)
trippzero 9 months ago
when i tried this i made the gearbox sound like a screw driver in a pencil sharpener
therealTOTOfan 9 months ago
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therealTOTOfan 9 months ago
ok so nutrul gas, shift to low gear , gas .. , or nutrul ,low gear , gas?
* sorry for spelling mistakes im 14 don't even race yet*
DeathxPredator5 9 months ago
@DeathxPredator5 you do clutch in, neutral, clutch out, gas, clutch in, lower gear, then clutch out
plofisto777 9 months ago
has no one thought of the car not having scynros? might just be a straight cut gear box with no sync, as in he has to double clutch in order to down shift.... and also if it did have scynros they would prolly be shredded after one track day
zf1krew 10 months ago
I don't know if I'm right but double clutching are often done when you on speeding on higher rpm then downshfiting to match the rev and the clutch. If you drive a like normal on pubilcity then i don't think you need to double clutch. IF the clutch and syncros goes bad then drop the tranmssion and inspect and change..
red666A 10 months ago
I don't understand the need for clutching two times. One can often pull out of gear when the gearbox isn't put under load. Then it's easy to adapt rpm and make a quick clutched shift. This helps a lot when downshifting on trucks where the clutch disk and clutch shaft are heavy, big parts. The synchro rings don't handle it well.
davidplatenkamp 10 months ago
At 2:08 = epic :D it looks like he's running
Palatenko 10 months ago 44
@Palatenko People dont relise how hard it is to actually do this. Major props Gary.
civic0412 9 months ago
23 females watched this video...
toeganssoftware 11 months ago
23 people drive paddle shifters
whorunsthisbitch 11 months ago
Now i got a question for you
what gear was he in??????
kj21012 11 months ago
what is it good for?
surlograsp 11 months ago 2
@surlograsp To save your clutch and syncros, and to have your engine at a high rpm going into the turn so you dont slow down when you down shift due to engine braking
noptig 10 months ago
@noptig yeah i know, but why -> opening -> closing -> throttle -> opening -> shifting -> closing?! and not just -> open -> throttle ->shifting -> closing? thats my question.
surlograsp 10 months ago
@surlograsp If you use your second example, the clutch spins way faster than the engine, and only single clutching wouldn't allow your clutch to slow down. Double clutching lets your clutch slow down, and rev matching (Throttle) makes your engine speed up. These combined will get your engine rpm and clutch rpm close, minimizing slippage when shifting, saving your clutch and syncros.
noptig 10 months ago
@noptig eh guy? the clutch pressure plate is jointed with the axle of the transmission, isn it? or is the clutch for grading the actuator from the engine and the gear box spins with the clutch?
surlograsp 10 months ago
@surlograsp you get the point
noptig 10 months ago
@noptig ok, i understand you, but what is with the springs of the clutch? i think double clutching is not good for them.
surlograsp 10 months ago
@surlograsp absolutley nothin, say it agian HUUUH!
maciek523 10 months ago
@maciek523 ? for sure, its good for the clutch and the synchronization.
surlograsp 10 months ago
@maciek523 ! you mean the song!xD
surlograsp 10 months ago
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Fa1c0n11 10 months ago
so to down shift spam the clutch and that will make shift a gear down? and to go up a gear just put down the clutch once?
*novice with this kind of stuff
killjoybacon 11 months ago
@killjoybacon Push the clutch in, put in neutral, rev engine, push in clutch and downshift.
Gibsonguitar4life 11 months ago
i always wondered how to double clutch. turns out my brother taught me to drive like this
Cabose1fn 11 months ago
My girlfriend drives like that
zekus1 11 months ago
@zekus1 what?!
ChrisLARun 11 months ago 2
@ChrisLARun Its true
zekus1 11 months ago
@zekus1 she's a keeper
socc3rfanatic1 11 months ago
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@zekus1 "My girlfriend drives like that"
Marry her...NOW.
MikeW259 10 months ago
That is insane!!! Thumbs up if you think paddle shift racers are pussy.
bukakee1 1 year ago 241
@bukakee1 its called technology
quanhn 11 months ago
@quanhn The prius 3 is a piece of the best technology, that at least normal people can afford. I don't see you driving or bying a Prius.
A99YearOld 11 months ago
@A99YearOld youre kidding right? what kind of argument is that... climate control is a relatively new piece of technology, yet we dont see it in race cars. why? because it has nothing to do with racing. paddle shifters on the other hand, are of use in racing. you dont make sense. what youre sayign about the prius is irrelevant in this argument. we are not trying to save gas here, were trying to go faster.
quanhn 11 months ago
@A99YearOld the Prius is over hyped rubbish that cannot live up to it's claims.
dfragglet 10 months ago
@dfragglet Overhyped by the "Oh god, my gas pedal got stuck" .. yes, but that kinda pathetic shit only happens in America. In every other country in the world the Prius is an amazing piece of technology, liked by some and disliked by others, as everybody has the right to have his or her opinion. It lives up to it's claims, but at the end of the day it'll be the driver that needs use a car in the way it should be used.
A99YearOld 10 months ago
@A99YearOld the Prius is supposed to be a "greener" car but how can it do that when the battery contains nickel, which is mined in Ontario Canada. That smelted nickel then has to travel (via container ship) to Europe to be refined, then to China to be made into "nickel foam," then to Japan for assembly, and finally to the country where the car is sold. so it costs a great deal, both in money and in pollution.
dfragglet 10 months ago
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A99YearOld 10 months ago
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A99YearOld 10 months ago
@A99YearOld the process of smelting nickel causes huge amounts of pollution and causes acid rain, it claims a mpg of 75mpg but there are diesel's out there that can do that. before a Prius even rolls of the dealer forecourt it's done as much damage to the environment as a Land rover Discovery V6 twin turbo diesel that spends all day running up and down the M4.
dfragglet 10 months ago
@dfragglet I saw that episode of Top Gear too, so your whole story is based on the 2nd generation Prius. Since the launch of the 3rd generation Prius all of the batteries are built in a factory in Japan. This is the same factory that got hit by the earthquake and tsunami. See this article: motors.mega.mu/news/2011/03/15/toyota-says-quake-hit-plants-escape-major-structural-damage/ ("But the temblor... and power shutdowns").
A99YearOld 10 months ago
@dfragglet In the end I agree with you that there aren't any green cars. It will always be up to the driver to drive environment friendly or not, it has nothing to do with the car itself. I think that people that drive environment friendly are better off with a slightly larger engine, since that will do less rpm at the same speed and gear than a smaller engine. Again: it's all about how you drive your car.
A99YearOld 10 months ago
@bukakee1 the one and only way to drive a car manual!
joshirr 10 months ago
@bukakee1 Or for F1 or rally when you can't take a hand of the steering wheel...
leagle0147 10 months ago
@leagle0147 yea..cuz f1 and rally cars never used to be standard manuals or anything *rolls eyes*
skadubreggae187 10 months ago
@skadubreggae187 yeah, and F1's and rally cars never used to go so fast.
leagle0147 10 months ago
@leagle0147 um rally cars went just as fast if not faster in the '80's before paddle shifters look up group B cuz it was banned cuz they went too fast and killed too many people. and the Venom GT out runs the Veyron Super Sport to 215mph with a regular stick with a clutch 15.6 seconds from 0-215mph the Veyron SS takes over 20 seconds to do it
kissofdeathracing1 4 months ago
@bukakee1 I totally agree it's pussy, but in a really high powered car (like a RWD Zonda R) It's probably best to keep two hands on the wheel at all times :) If you value your life, that is.
DanG323 9 months ago
@bukakee1 unless its formula one.
TheZoelzer2 9 months ago
@bukakee1 what about formula 1 :O
KevnutsWho 9 months ago
@bukakee1 you cant be talking about being a pussy when youre driving a AWD subi, plus have you ever heard of an F1 driver? they use paddles and let me see you call them a pussy when driving one of these pussy mobiles.
burritomaker69 7 months ago
@burritomaker69 the 171 people who agree with me have thumbs up.
bukakee1 7 months ago
@bukakee1 I believe in Formula 1 or Indy that Paddle shifters are great but in drifting/nascar/class racing, then its pussy shit bull shit for sure!
HeavyMetalMike666 6 months ago
@bukakee1 i dont even consider them racers lol
masochistnteam 6 months ago
@bukakee1 so formula 1 drivers are pussies?
jayxtreme6 6 months ago
The concept is called rev matching in some magazine I read years back. Maybe Import Tuner or something. Rev matching is simply giving your engine some gas before you let the clutch out into gear so the engine speed is about the same as it would be in gear. The result is a smooth engagement and transition from gear to gear or neutral into gear. If you don't rev match you get that jerking feeling of near whiplash when your engine surges from 750rpms to 5,300 rpms.
jac0441 1 year ago
so, when giong around a turn he down shifts then double clutches for a boost?
onedayillpay 1 year ago
This isn't double clutching, it's a badass showing us how to properly heel-toe when downshifting. A double clutch shift is pressing in clutch, shifting to neutral, reving motor, pressing in clutch a second time (hence the double), and putting into next gear. If your car isn't 20 years old, you probably have syncros in your transmission and do not need to double shift.
jac0441 1 year ago
@jac0441 You need to watch the video again. He is double clutching and executing heel toe. Double clutching is pointless without using heel toe .... and Visa Versa
Mart34 1 year ago
@jac0441
This guy is right its not double clutching he is down shifting at the same time as he is slowing down and bringing the RPM's up so the engine doesnt slow it down but the brakes do. Hence hill toe movement between the gas and brake pedal.
Rookie77328 1 year ago
that is an angry car
mikel1982 1 year ago
This spec is a flat 4 right?
monard91 1 year ago
what is the point to double clutch?
brandon184839 1 year ago
He probably has a Dog Box or another name is crash box so he has to double clutch
ehow.com/facts_7577582_crash-gearbox.html
pfnr37 1 year ago
this guy can do the Double clutch, i can do the Dick Clutch. . .
AndyRoddick969 1 year ago
@AndyRoddick969 so you clutch your dick? I guess you let go long enough to type though eh? haha
zeppelin67637 1 year ago
@AndyRoddick969 i hope you did'nt think that was funny
catnipfever22 1 year ago
what about tripple clutch? quadruple clutch?
dmamerica 1 year ago
I do this on my car for almost EVERY down shift... clutch lasts longer... because you're matching the speed of the drive shaft to the engine. When you come into a corner you need to apply the brake as well, so it's the "heel-toe-double-clutch-downshift".... which he does in this vid a couple of times too.
TickleExpress 1 year ago
he double clutches to keep his rpm high right??
loodabeast 1 year ago
@loodabeast
NOPE
he uses heel and toe to match the speed of engine and gearbox intake(conserves the clutch) and he uses double clutching to match speed between both gearbox shafts(conserves the synchro rings)
maggimann123 1 year ago
@maggimann123 thanks for clarifying dude
loodabeast 1 year ago
kinda noob for me to ask this but why 'double' clutch. why cant you rev match with the clutch depressed?
hirirsi 1 year ago
@hirirsi I googled it and found out (because I had no idea either) That its needed in unsynchronized manual gearboxes to prevent the tranny from breaking. It also cuts down on wear in modern gearboxes in theory
EaAddict360 1 year ago
@hirirsi Oh, I forgot to add that (if you didn't know) each shift is actually two. One into neutral, then one into the desired gear.
EaAddict360 1 year ago
thats how i drive when i need to go shit in toilet home :D tumbs up if u like it
Technofreak01 1 year ago
how does double clutching help? i've never understood it!
CatchThePanda 1 year ago
@CatchThePanda This guy explains it pretty well youtube (dot) com/watch?v=pI3cHXnGEx4
RingoFreakingStarr 1 year ago
thats how my bus driver used to drive her 5speed blue bird
DevinL16 1 year ago
whats the point of doing this???
danii7boii 1 year ago
@danii7boii it reduces wear on the sycromesh of the transmission and allows for smoother shifts
Atv821 1 year ago
It´s possible to do downshifting and heel and toe while I´m clutching??I think this is faster than heel and toe with double clutch,because in this way you clutch only once,am I right??
Nivolaneuve1 1 year ago
@Nivolaneuve1 u smart ass...this is a professional rally driver and uses this method and u think u know better?next time keep ur comment four yourself...
danylaly09 1 year ago
@danylaly09 hey mother fucker!!!I´m just asking to you,you answer to me in this way????why don´t you read Alain Prost`s book???
Nivolaneuve1 1 year ago
Double clutch heel toeing :D
And double clutching downshifts isn't pointless, that's like saying downshifting is pointless. You should downshift; you should match the rpms when you down shift; you should double clutch to reduce wear when downshifting.
You can double clutch up-shifting, as well. (I don't)
Moving parts wear. . . faster than normal moving parts wear faster. . .
moto557Si 1 year ago
He must have bad syncros or something.... Kinda useless to double clutch any new car, and by new I mean any car after 1980's ?
dozedrift 1 year ago
@dozedrift or he's in a car with a race transmission that has no syncros.
alwaystired512 1 year ago
@dozedrift if he had bad syncros he would fix them don't u think? everybody is so smart...that's incredible...
danylaly09 1 year ago
@danylaly09 Well I dont see any need for this driving style.
dozedrift 1 year ago
@dozedrift There's really no need in most situations but if your car has a gear that is a little difficult to shift into, it can make your shift easier. I once had a Geo Metro which was like that in second gear. I always double clutched when downshiftig.
gregryf 1 year ago
can double clutch in any car that has a clutch? and is double clutching up two gears bad for your engine? and the other way around?
matthewrockslol22 1 year ago
<3 omg
bigace511 1 year ago
Can you imagine this is why women secretly wear high heels! Hmmm I might be on to something.
TheRickRod 1 year ago
obviously its a professional driving, I wander how I would look on video?
Austum 1 year ago
to me its seems like his clutching in and gasing it at the same time
wouldnt that fuck up the clutch even quicker?
superco0l88 1 year ago
@superco0l88 id assume this is some kind of professional and buying new clutches every week is not a concern to him
GodspeedAdam 1 year ago
@superco0l88 No because its revving the engine up to higher RPM's so in turn when he shifts into a lower gear its less torque on the engine and its easier on the clutch since its not just engaging and spining to those higher RPM's with no help at all.
gorecraz 1 year ago