that is funny as hell and what make it even more funny is that we have a name for it "the great Disappointment." the people back then were really stupid to follow that man.
@jack305666, and they're even more stupid now for following Ellen White. Seventh Day Adventism is built on deception. Ellen White revived William Miller's "The Great 1844 Disappointment" with the lie of "The Investigated Judgment." And Adventists act like idiots because they are under a veil of religious insecurity.
How these movements like JW's, Adventists and Camping, can continue to hold power in the light of their failed predictions is beyond belief. You'd think they would quietly go away, and disappear up their own fundaments, but no - their followers continue to believe in these cults of errors and thereby deceive and influence more along the way. Why don't they ever wake up?
He was right. Check the Bahai Faith which commenced on May 23 1844. The only mistake he made was he expected a physical return as opposed to a spiritual return.
Daniel 7:9 cannot be out of context, because if you read Daniel chapter 7 you can see a chronological order from the beginning of the chapter to the end. If you read Daniel 1-9 and Revelation totally harmonize. If you read a little later, the world has not ended yet Daniel 7:9 and over you can clearly see that. Hebrews 4:14 "Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.
May 23, 1844, in Elam, the Bab declared Himself to be the Promised One. Jeremiah 49:38 said "The Lord shall set His throne in Elam." This is where Daniel's visions took place. The Bab (Gate) was killed July 9, 1850 by a firing squad of 750 Muslim soldiers. He spoke of "Him Whom God shall make manifest." This is Baha'u'llah (Glory of God), imprisoned and exiled for 40 years, from Persia to Iraq, Constantinople, Adrainople, to Akka, in Israel. His followers still imprisoned, killed in Iran.
@radiomanguy Daniel 7:9 "I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool:his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire." Daniel 7:10 "A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: THE JUDGMENT was set, and the books were opened.
@radiomanguy Hebrews 4:14 can clearly show us that the God head operates in harmony with the Sanctuary. It is true that we are not saved by works, But you need to see that God wants us to do our part also. He is now ministering as our High Priest, He did not just die, he rose and entered the holy place, and later to the most holy place in which he is Ministering in our behalf.
I read up on William Miller. He sold white ascension robes to his followers so they can have something to wear when they go to heaven. What I can't understand is, why didn't he just give the robes to them instead? He couldn't spend the money if the world ended. (hint hint)
@SwampGator100 What book did you read? People who have scoured the primary sources would never make such a patently false statement. William Miller was certainly accused of that, but when a reward was offered to produce one such robe, no body could claim it. It was false. These people held a faith so unlike Christians today who love the world and are one with it. This movement is so unappreciated and little understood.
Me thinks Fat Tony has you pegged, you best be leaving this false church,these are no better off than the Catholics and muzzies . When I see people following these false religions, and refuse to see how false it is, even with tons of facts and false prophesies to prove it to them,It brings to mind this verse.......I shall send unto them a Strong Dream,and they shall dream a dream, in which they shall never awaken.
For false christ and false prophets shall rise and show great signs and wonders to decieve ,if possible, even the elect. See I have told you beforehand,Therefore if they say to you,Look he is in the desert! do not go out; or Look he is the inner rooms! do not believe it. For as the lighting comes from the east and flashes to the west, so shall the coming of the Son of Man be.But of that day and hour no one knows,not even the angels of heaven,but my Father only .
Fat tony has been on a crusade against the Seventh Day Adventist church for quite sometime.You wont find anything positive coming from him/her. No time spentn helping the poor, or giving Bible studies ,not directing people toward the Lord nor any such thing as that.These are all things the Seventh Day Adventist Church does.
If a person compares the doctrine of 1844 with the scriptures, you don't find it. Instead, you find many things which stand against it. If anyone is interested, I have a series of videos that delve into the 1844 topic.
Ask an SDA if they are saved by grace alone and they nod their head. But ask them if they are certain that they are saved and if they can be saved if they ceased Sabbath works,and this is what you get:
1. "Hmm not sure".
2. "I don't think so, shrug"
3. "I am working on it"
4. "I need to clean myself up first"
5. "There are a few sins I need to gain victory over first".
Can you see it? Adventists give lip service about salvation by grace alone, but they really rely on works to be saved!!!
@FatTonyAU Its funny you say that, because when I read the sermon on the mount, I don't find Jesus telling every one that they are saved by Grace alone. Instead I find him saying "Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commands and teaches men so shall be called least in the kingdom...and therefore whoever does and teaches men so shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven." Could it be that Christians today have erected a false standard from twisting Paul's words?
The SDA cult is the ONLY denomination in the world that teaches the "Investigative Judgment" doctrine, because the truth is that it's NOT taught in Bible, it's only taught in Ellen G White books, the Adventists false teacher and false prophet who have led millions astray with her false doctrines and false gospel. I speak from personal experience,I was a member of this deceptive cult for over 10 years,but one day I began to study Bible for myself and realised she taught a lot of error and deceit!
May the One Eternal Lord Joseph Smith have mercy on your soul, sister, for you have been mislead about the Truth through a corrupted version of what the blessed Forefather had truly envisioned for our faith. I testify before you that Joseph Smith, who has risen from death, is true Lord and Savior over all Creation and unto Him only do I live my life in truth, baring much fruit in the witness that my heart has confirmed.
@FatTonyAU And Jesus was the only jew on earth that said that the King of the Jews would die instead of leading Israel to a victory over the Roman Empire as was universally believed by the "main stream believers" of his time - So what's your point?
These question for Seventh-day Adventists will prove they are a cult who rely on Sabbath works to be saved:
If you stopped attending Church service on Sabbath, and instead began attending Church service on Sundays, can you still be saved by grace alone and still avoid receiving the Mark of the Beast?
YES OR NO?
OR will God reject you and will you receive the Mark of the Beast and be lost because you attended Church on Sundays and didn't perform weekly Sabbath works?
@FatTonyAU Yes I can and I have but you will not accept it, you run away and ignore it, you simply copy/paste your same spam statement over and over without having a proper conversation.
This is kinda getting fun because every time I see you spray the same insolent words around you make me smile. You make me happy because you made me reappraise my beliefs and I now believe them stronger. Thank you
@indimedia I am laughing so hard that my belly aches LOL :)
You are such a typical brainwashed and deceived Adventist!You are NO different to the others that I have asked those questions.You all do the same,run and hide from my questions and sidestep them,even consorting to lying to cover your bases so you can avoid answering my questions.The reason is that you are UNABLE to place those EGW statements into context,because the truth is they are ALREADY in context,proving EGW was a false teacher!
@FatTonyAU I am glad you are laughing, it is good for you ;) The fact is if you scroll down a little you will notice that I did answer your question. If you want to believe that EGW is a false teacher, then that's up to you. I will not condemn you for it. I simply ask for the same, I believe she has a lot to offer in her writings, I don't place them in league with the bible.
I believe in religious liberty and will respect your beliefs, I ask for the same.
@indimedia I have a question for you. I am hoping that you are not too frightened to answer it and don't sidestep it and try to run and hide from this question.
What did Ellen G White teach about the "Sunday laws" Mark of the Beast, and who will get it, and WHY will they get the "Sunday laws" Mark of the Beast?
If you are unable to answer that question, then go ask your SDA Pastor to answer it for you, and then come back here and tell everyone the answer.
@FatTonyAU Why do you run from my answers, I have answered this question already, directly! In fact I answered it with and EGW quote that outlines what she teaches.
I do not need to go to my 'pastor'. I have answered this but you ignored my answer and switched to different question, then when I answer that question you switch back to this one.
Your tactics are getting a little to predictable.
The bible states, "If your right hand makes you stumble, cut it off and throw it from you'. Have parts of your body made you sin? I am sure they have. Have you cut them off? If not then you are in contempt.
Is what I just said above right? Absolutely not because it is out of context.
Look at the R&H statement, EGW writes in the sentence before. He who says, "I am sinless," is self-deceived. To entertain such a thought is blasphemy.
@indimedia You keep telling lies after lies! You are in fact a pathological and habitual liar! You have NOT answered my question at all! STOP LYING, John 8:44!
"In order to let Jesus into our hearts, we must stop sinning." - {ST, March 3, 1890 par. 3}
"To be redeemed means to cease from sin." Review & Herald, Sept. 25, 1900.
" ... conversion is not completed until he attains to perfection of Christian character." Testimonies, Vol. 2, p. 505.
Paul says:"7Have I committed an offence in abasing myself that ye might be exalted, because I have preached to you the gospel of God freely?" 2 Corinthians 11:7 (King James Version). "So let each one give as he purposes in his heart, not grudgingly or of necessity; for God loves a cheerful giver" (2 Corinthians 9:7).Thiting back then were lambs, offerings what you harvested. We have all payments, bills, rental house to pay!!! How SDAs keeps wanting too much money like that!!!
They are money hungry; they lure you to their churches. Then they tell you to pay 10% of your checks,& you shouldnot eat pork, quail,frog meats..., neither cat fish. This is a weirdest denomination I've ever seen. In their services, they always say aloud to destroy the Catholics. In their booklets, they always say Catholic pope is the AntiChrist/ the Beast/ the whore of Babylon. They say Catholics are Con-men, whores, thieves.They throw off on Catholics like that just to get money!!!
@USVictory If this is the weirdest religion you have seen, then you have not lived my friend, because they are pretty mainstream to what I've seen around the world.
if you are in Jesus Christ and accept him as his savior, you will accept also his Precepts Exodus 20:1-17, your claiming that you are save but your still here in this dark world, exalting yourself is not Good, unless you must study the KJV Bible and the Spirit of Prophecy which is the testimony of Jesus Christ, Revelation 19:10 “… for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.” I love her writings even I'm not anymore a SDA, but I believe she is a 100% prophetess not 99.9% but 100%
I too was an SDA cult member for 12 years. I was too scared to leave because they had me brainwashed into thinking that I cannot be saved unless I had SDA membership and faith in EGW. But one day God spoke to my heart and clearly called me out of the SDA cult Babylon. Now I am free in Christ Jesus and now Jesus is my 100% complete Saviour, where before Jesus + Sabbath + Satan + EGW were my Saviours, but now only Jesus is my complete Saviour! Praise Jesus, Amen.
@indimedia Answer these questions honestly and directly:
1. How is a person justified and saved?
2. What does a person need to do once they have been justified and saved to remain justified and saved?
3. What can happen for a person to lose their justification and salvation and how can the person be justified and saved again?
(I bet he won't provide direct and honest answers because he knows his answers will expose his trust in his works to be saved. He is lost in Babylon(legalism)
@FatTonyAU :D I'm playing with you FatTonyAU, lighten up. I believe I have answered this question. You say I have not. We will have to agree to disagree.
@indimedia It's hilarious actually! Every single SDA I have asked those questions to, do one of 2 things:
1. Totally ignore me, run and hide.
2. Falsely claim they have answered me when in fact and reality, they never did. They lie about it because they cannot provide an answer, but due to their pride and self-righteousness they need to protect their ego, so they blatantly lie and claim they answered when they in fact never did.
Typical SDA rotten fruit! By their fruit you shall know them!
You are a lying Adventist with a forked tongue! You have NEVER answered my questions, so stop falsely claiming that you have!
Instead of parroting that you have answered me, just answer me. And if you have answered, then copy and paste that answer again here or give me the link to your answer!
Stop playing EGW games...admit your errors and come to Christ!
@FatTonyAU You are the one playing the EGW game, not I. I already have come to Christ. I have no need to 'explain' myself.
NO my tongue is not forked, its quite normal
NO I am not a parrot
YES I am sick of your spam.
We do not have to agree, I give you the respect to believe what you want without bombarding you where I feel your theology is wrong. I ask for the same
The fact is, we both might be wrong, i guess we will find out when we have this conversation in heaven.
@FatTonyAU Why do you persecute Jesus loving Christians?
Let look at R&H in context: "He who says, "I am holy, I am sinless," is self-deceived. To entertain such a thought is blasphemy. Not to see the marked contrast between Christ and ourselves is not to know ourselves. He who does not abhor himself can not understand the meaning of redemption. To be redeemed means to cease from sin.
Yep you took that out of context, what a beautiful statement, I am blessed for reading it today. Thank you.
@indimedia I have a question for you. I am hoping that you are not too frightened to answer it and don't sidestep it and try to run and hide from this question.
What did Ellen G White teach about the "Sunday laws" Mark of the Beast, and who will get it, and WHY will they get the "Sunday laws" Mark of the Beast?
If you are unable to answer that question, then go ask your SDA Pastor to answer it for you, and then come back here and tell everyone the answer.
@FatTonyAU Last time you asked me this question I quoted EGW for you and you said I did not answer. What more can I do???? My answer was an EGW quote responding to your question. Then you say i did not answer. You have ignored my answer and wrongfully accused me of not answering it.
ATTENTION ADVENTISTS: Ask your SDA Pastor this following question.
If I have faith in Jesus, yet attend Church on Sundays and not Saturdays(Sabbath), can I still be saved by faith and grace alone, and can I still avoid the coming Mark of the Beast (Sunday Laws)?
His answer will be NO, which will prove that Adventists rely on their Sabbath works to save them. They view the Sabbath as their god and saviour, and the truth is they believe they will be lost if they stop performing Sabbath works.
Ellen White had no great vision. William Miller having predicted multiple returns of the coming of Christ, walked out on his home spun religion. Those left holding on to nothing, like Ellen White, had to salvage Millers false theology. Ellen then discovered a way to redeem the total errors Miller had left, tell lies. There is no need to cleanse any sanctuary in Heaven that GOD resides in. This is to say GOD dwells in sin. The Bible mentions no sin in Heaven save Lucifer and his followers.
It is only by God's grace that Christ's return has been delayed. People, once the Word of God has reached all, we won't have to speculate on Christ's return. For those who didn't heed the call sadly will know when their sight is blinded and they are destroyed by the brightness of his coming and for those who have held on to the promise, they will joyfully be caught up to meet Christ in the air on that Great Day!
yeah It was a big disappointment when I found out that all I have been taught is just made up stuff from "smart" people through out the ages. How people have used religion to control you, and keep you on check.
I bet your life doesn't have disappointments, because you figured it all out. Congrats!
The whole thing was error from the start! SDA have tried in vain to hold on to the heresy of 1844 to try and put their church up on a pedestal as the only true church of God. Its a form of blasphemy.
@cornerstone111 for your information all religions are a BIG disappointment. Open your eyes and mind and you will see how what you have been following is absurd.
They were all right the end will come on day, but Jesus left us a little indicator as to those who will be shown saving grace at that time, Matt 5: only those who have chosen to be mercifull will be the ones shown mercy at that time. We each must search our hearts for extent we willing to extend that mercy. and I believe Ellen White was right, we should be mercifull toward animals as well.
Please pray this day for all the chickens in battery cages and pigs in hell holes.
Im a 20 yr old and that what I believed for sometime but as I read the Bible and the Spirit of Prophecy God, it is very very clear that it is by grace alone that we can be saved. Not by any acts or ordinances. No ifs or buts. And as we fall in love with God, we will seek to do His will and keep His commandments. It won't be a burden at all. It is something that we do because we love doing it for Him. And I am privileged to be a part of this church and of this last day movement.
@rbgwapa Yes, grace is the only thing! I have faith in God and accept Jesus as my lord and saviour, that`s why I don`t feel bad about routinely raping children and beating elderly people for money.
I was a member of the Seventh-day Adventist Denomination for 12 years but I have now resigned my membership because I came to understand and realise that I am saved by faith and grace alone, not by works or personal Sabbath keeping that the SDA teach. I teach the gospel of justification,sanctification and righteousness by faith alone. But now most Adventists abuse me and call me a child of Satan. Once I came out of Babylon/SDA I am set free in the grace and righteousness of Christ. Praise Jesus!
@The1Antonio1 I have been an adventist for 5 yrs. I came out of the baptist church. Never once in the 5 yrs have I been taught that I have to follow ellen white. I am saved by grace thru faith and not of my works lest I should boast. God says if we love him keep on sinning, NO. Keep his commandments. I love the law because I love him. I love the sabbath for the same reason. That is the day he gave us. Don't condem all sda churches because of your persnal ex. at the church you attended.
@The1Antonio1 I have been an adventist for 5 yrs. I came out of the baptist church. Never once in the 5 yrs have I been taught that I have to follow ellen white. I am saved by grace thru faith and not of my works lest I should boast. God says if we love him keep on sinning, NO. Keep his commandments. I love the law because I love him. I love the sabbath for the same reason. That is the day he gave us. Don't condem all sda churches because of your personal ex. at the church you attended.
Folks, this is so false; there was no handclaping in he church, Ellen White wrote against these things; also, William Miller is presented here as an insane preacher, out of his mind, shaking, shouting, like some lunatic. He was a godly, pious man, not someone out of his mind.
Adventists believe they are lost if they were to stop attending SDA Church Service every Sabbath to sing a song or two, pay their tithe, hear a sermon and go home. If they stopped doing this "work", they believe they are lost and will receive the future Mark of the Beast. Ask any Adventist if they believe they will be saved if they stopped attending SDA Sabbath Church Service! Their answer reveals they rely on personal Sabbath keeping to remain saved! There is your proof of SDA legalism!
I was a SDA for 12 years, and they are definitely a CULT! Since I resigned my SDA membership, I have been called evil, satan follower, lost and a deceiver by certain Adventists. SDA teach that only they are the selected and special "remnant church" and everyone else is deceived and will be lost when they receive the Mark of the Beast. SDA is a CULT! I know from personal experience, I was a member for 12 years. But God called me out of Babylon(legalism) and into the grace of God.
Incredible ignorance amongst not only our nation, but throughout the world. Most people who refute "all religions" have never studied what those religion believe. But again, that is what God's divine Word tells us will happen in the end times. "Come out of Babylon..."
@bryanbeltline however the ten wil not be the one that wil judge the world. infact the world is already judged by this one commandment. john 3:18
we can catagorize sin into those but i want you to understand that the word commandments in the new testament does not refer to the ten actualy Paul used the word law to describe those in the ten, there are many more commandments in the new. i wil have toget back to you i dont have time
@bryanbeltline many people from mormanism feel the same way about joseph smith and if there is amything wrong with aprophet I.E. a prophecy made that does not happen then the prophet should be evaltuated tobe authentice
SDA teach a false gospel of legalism and a false doctrine of the Investigate Judgment and what that false teaching does is add uncertainty for Adventists where they have NO IDEA if they are saved or not!
Jesus said in John 14:1-3 that if you trust in Him HE WILL COME BACK FOR YOU and take you to heaven!
But Adventists say NO! Even though you trust in Jesus, HE MAY NOT COME BACK FOR YOU TO TAKE YOU TO HEAVEN! SDA call Jesus a liar!
@The1Antonio1 When it comes down to it, God doesn't care whether you call yourself an 'Adventist' or not--he only WANTS for you to CHOOSE to live forever with him. As far as I know, this is what Seventh-day Adventists believe--they don't believe in 'once saved always saved' because God does not TAKE AWAY your freedom of choice... but if you remain in Christ, you CAN have assurance of salvation... not as an 'Adventist', but as a follower of THE WAY...
@thegambitking Your comments reveal your ignorance in what the SDA truly believe and truly teach.
Adventists believe they are lost if they were to stop attending SDA Church Service every Sabbath to sing a song or two, pay their tithe, hear a sermon and go home.
If they stopped doing this "work", they believe they are lost and will receive the future mark of the beast.
Ask any SDA if they believe they will be saved if they stopped attending SDA Sabbath Church Service! There is your proof!
@The1Antonio1 Which Adventists do you know??? Anyways, we should all waste less time squabbling over denominations and more time getting into God's word... I don't think of myself as an 'Adventist' as a denominational label... I think of myself as a SINNER who is SEEKING Jesus daily... and I believe that the Seventh-day Adventist church is correct in their keeping of the fourth commandment of the Bible--that doesn't mean that I am legalistic or judgmental towards others...
@thegambitking i was about to ask @The1Antonio1 the SAMMMMME question. I've been born and raised SDA and I don't know anyone who believes that they are lost if they aren't going to church every single Sabbath. There is more to the SDA belief system than going to church.
@Candie4JC I didn't go, since I'm in Sagunto, Spain, right now for an ACA programme, but my parents and brother went, I think... (As you can imagine, it's pretty crazy over here with the world cup and all--go Netherlands!)
@thegambitking Oh i have three friends there for the ACA program too. i was just talking to my bff about how lucky those three are to be there (and I guess you are too!) haha don't root for the netherlands TOO loudly over there haha! espero que estas teniendo mucho divertido en espana!!
did you guys get to watch any of the GC from there? I played in the GC Mass Orchestra, so that was an intense experience. never seen so many SDAs in my LIFE!!
@bryanbeltline there is more out of desire of ages than these some dealing with judas and others, my goal Here is just to Get people away from her teachings and Focus on the Word more. though her writings are nice and some are correct, they are feeled with her personal oppinions and views and we cant base our faith on that, it has to be a solid Word and that comes from God
@bryanbeltline actualy the ten commandments was Glorious but how much more is the new covenant? 2 corinthians 3
if the ten were the old what is the new? the letter kileth but the spirit Gives Life. there is nothing Like the precious Holy Ghost sister, all the ten did was point to Christ, it was a chool teacher till Jesus Got here
the ten commandments themselves do not mention anything about greed, or glutony, tor witchcraft and they dont even talk about repentance. in fact it wont be these that will condem the world but what we find is the world is already condemned by this john 3:18
Love fullfills them and the sabbath my dear sister is now rest in the Holy Spirit, that is the Mark that God puts on you! no longer a day that seperates God Bless!
@bryanbeltline very Good look on the elder sons, i want to point out that when the angel of the Lord came to Joesph he said Get up leave go to egypt, and the bible recounts that only him mary and Jesus went, also the geneology tree on both acounts do not mention another wife, but yes Jesus had brothers and sisters they all however were younger
Your first lie when you hinted that Adventists are keeping 10 Commandments, because the truth is Adventists are SINNERS and SINNERS breaks the 10 Commandments.
And James said if you stumble in just one point, you are guilty of breaking the WHOLE 10 COMMANDMENTS!
Bryan, are you claiming you are a perfect 10 Commandment keeper and are you claiming you never ever sin anymore?
Yes or No?
If No, then you admit you are a sinner, and that sinners are law breakers?
@bryanbeltline you also need to understand that the sabath was a shadow col 2:16-17 even in the greek sabataon is used representing the weekly sabath, the day of rest was pointing to a greater rest in Christ.
Mathew 11:28-29 rest for the soul, revelations 14:14
it is no longer a day but rest in the Holy Spirit. the Spirit is the seal of the new covenant, no longer the sabath ephesians 4:29
@bryanbeltline nehamiah 9 :14 states the sabbath was not revielled until moses.
exodus 31:16 states this was a covenant to the nation of Israel only
deuteronomy 5:1-3 states that the ten were only given to them at mt sinai.
hebrews 8:13, 2corinthians 3 galations 4 all talk about he old covenant going away which was the ten commandments and the law and that a newer covenent would be made
@bryanbeltline desire of the ages, she stated Jesus had older brothers. I own some of her books how can this be when He was born of a virgin. also she stated that jesus could not see past the grave though Christ Himself said destroy this temple in 3 days i will raise it. she even stated that Jesus did not know if God excepted Him as a sacrifice for the sins of the world
Romans 4:1-5 What then shall we say that Abraham, our forefather, discovered in this matter? If, in fact, Abraham was justified by works, he had something to boast about—but not before God. What does the Scripture say? "Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness." Now when a man works, his wages are not credited to him as a gift, but as an obligation. However, to the man who does not work but trusts God who justifies the wicked, his faith is credited as righteousness.
ATTENTION Adventists: Are you a perfect Sabbath keeper? Yes or No?
If Yes, then do you claim you are actually perfectly keeping the Sabbath Commandment without flaw at all?
And do you then claim you keep the whole 10 Commandments perfectly and that you are now sinless, because James said if you break 1 point you break the whole law! So you would need to be a perfect 10 Commandment keeper to be classified as a Perfect Sabbath Keeper.
If your answer is No,then you admit you are a Sabbath breaker?
I invite you to visit the website my husband and I started, "Sabbatismos: Finding Our Rest in Christ." (Just google "Sabbatismos"). We have written essays on EGW and the Investigative Judgment doctrine, which SDAs later proposed to explain why Christ didn't return in 1844 as Miller's calculations had indicated.
Clearly some people have strong opinions either way in this discussion. God only knows the hearts of each individual. I come from the point of view that first and foremost, God loves me and wants to save me. My relationship with Him is very important. He has touched my heart and I feel blest. I dwell in the joy of His Love. And yes, I am Adventist. :)
I believe in obedience to the 10 Commandments - but I do not believe like the SDA that my obedience contributes to me GETTING saved [Justification], STAYING saved [sanctification] now or later. If you read Galatians 4:21 and then Gal 3:1-3 with an open mind you will see that the FALSE GOSPEL that Paul opposed so vehemently was this: You initially get saved by faith in Jesus PLUS my own efforts. Jesus PLUS anything else to get saved or stay saved is the legalism of the first century.
I was a member of the Seventh-day Adventist Denomination for 12 years but I have now resigned my membership because I came to understand and realise that I am saved by faith and grace alone, not by works or personal Sabbath keeping that the SDA teach. I teach the gospel of justification, sanctification and righteousness by faith alone. But now most Adventists call me a child of Satan. Once I came out of Babylon/SDA I am set free in the grace and righteousness of Christ and I now see clearly.
@The1Antonio1 Acts 26:18 says sanctification comes by faith too. If you have renounced sanctification and the gospel of grace read Rom. 1:6; Rev.22:14. God has a place for you in his remnant church still. If you would like to study God's Word I'd be happy to share with you the clarity of the three angels' messages and answers your Bible questions.
@The1Antonio1 No one said we are not saved by grace, we are and that's the only way Abel, Noah, Abraham, and Moses were saved!!! The issue is you don't believe Christ can save us from sin Matt.1:21. and He can keep us from sinning Jude 24,25; 1Jn.3:9, Ps.119:11. But how can we have the mind of Christ and break His commandments Phil.2:5. LOVE (Jn.14:15)& GRACE (Rom.1:5) lead to faithfully obey by the power of the gospel and Christ working in us.
@The1Antonio1 actually u r not only saved by faith and grace alone, it takes much more than that u can have faith and show grace but u could be breaking the comments at the same time or u could be an adultery etc so really and truly u r not making any sense, i think u need to study the bible more and it's a shame u left the adventist church when it is the true church and u should know that ellen g white was a true profit, right now the devil is laughing at u
@jalisa146 Your message is a false gospel of legalism!! You are a false teacher and you are lost in works!!!
Your comments are TYPICAL of Adventists lost and deceived in legalism and you do not believe you are saved until you become perfect and sinless, exactly like Ellen White believed and taught.
You believe because you attend Church every Sabbath that God now loves you and that you are a "Commandment keeper". But truth is you are a SINNER and sinners breaks the Commandments!
@jalisa146 You and SDA say, "u r not only saved by faith and grace alone"
But bible says:
Ephesians 2:8-9 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— not by works, so that no one can boast.
Titus 3:5 he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit,
You and SDA contradict the bible because you are lost in legalism!
@jalisa146 who is the final authority God or ellen? because her writings in the desire of ages contridict the word of God, one has to be aliar. maybe you need to spend some times in her works to see her errors in her prophecies and some of the things she stated. and no brother your in darkness, your trying to justify yourself with the law and making Christ of no effect to you
Any Adventist who is still a sinner, YET still invited Jesus into their hearts do NOT believe in EGW, because EGW said the following; "In order to let Jesus into our hearts, we must stop sinning." Signs of the Times, March 3, 1898. So unless you have perfectly stopped sinning,(which nobody has), then you should not invite Jesus into your heart if you are an Adventist and if you believe in what EGW taught. EGW also said, "To be redeemed means to cease from sin." Review & Herald, Sept. 25, 1900
@rustysruger There will likely be some people who will try and point you to forerunner and say some other law was nailed to the cross or try and say it was the sacrifices of the new moons and sabbaths that were nailed to the cross. The difficulty is that the sacrifices were tied to the days. I tried to rationalize this verse when I was an SDA.
My husband and I became Seventh Day Adventist 5 years ago because of the Truth shown to us through the Bible and the Bible only. We look forward to the Day when our Lord comes in great glory.
I left the SDA because one day I realised I was lost in legalism and self-works where the SDA had convinced me that I will only be saved if I keep attending Church on Saturdays and tithing. In other words, I was saved by legalism, not by works.
The SDA Pastors in my Church taught that unless you attend Church on Saturdays you will get the mark of the beast and belong to Satan, hence, they teach that my personal works will save me.
Ellen White never called herself a prophet, and never put her writings before the Bible, and never said that they should be. The Bible first always. The seventh day is the sabbath from God and for man.
Adventists DO NOT believe in Imputed Righteousness i.e. Righteousness by faith. They believe in righteousness through Sabbath and Commandment keeping.
Ask an Adventist if they stopped attending Church on Saturday mornings if they can still be saved. Their answer is NO! Ellen White was a false teacher who has placed Adventists under works/legalism. She said: "In order to let Jesus into our hearts, we must stop sinning." Signs of the Times, March 3, 1898. Ironically she died a sinner.
I was a member of the Seventh-day Adventist Denomination for 12 years but I have now resigned my membership because I came to understand and realise that I am saved by faith and grace alone, not by works or personal Sabbath keeping that the SDA teach. I teach the gospel of justification, sanctification and righteousness by faith alone. But now most Adventists call me a child of Satan. Once I came out of Babylon/SDA I am set free in the grace and righteousness of Christ and I now see clearly.
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Any Adventist who is still a sinner, YET still invited Jesus into their hearts do NOT believe in EGW, because EGW said the following; "In order to let Jesus into our hearts, we must stop sinning." Signs of the Times, March 3, 1898. So unless you have perfectly stopped sinning,(which nobody has), then you should not invite Jesus into your heart if you are an Adventist and if you believe in what EGW taught. EGW also said, "To be redeemed means to cease from sin." Review & Herald, Sept. 25, 1900
"What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? Certainly not! How shall we who died to sin live any longer in it?
Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death?
Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life." Rom 6:1-4
Our sin killed us, we were dead, completely powerless, it was only by His grace that we were made alive. So as Christ was raised from the dead by the Father's glory, His Holy Spirit, we now walk by the Spirit, to a life opposite of breaking His law, a life of of keeping His commandments. John 14:15 We died to sin, we cannot live anymore in it.
@GloriousReturns, your comments are not even worth the keyboard it was typed on. One day you'll see the light, and hopefully, like bacteria, you won't be killed by it.
The1Antonio1, if that's all you think or see, then you are the one deceived. Compare taught docrines with Scripture, objectively do so, and you will recognize the soundness of beliefs highly criticized because it is not popular. Truth is not by majority vote, but by the Bible. indankse, read for edification, not for debate.
guitaoist, your Nietzsche is dead, and Jesus Christ is alive, make your calling and election sure. It's your choice: go with a dead man or with the risen Saviour!
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William, Ellen and Cindy, they are all as deceived as each other.
I was a Seventh-day Adventist but have since come out of Babylon, the SDA because they teach deceit and a gospel of works and not salvation through Jesus alone, but they teach salvation through Jesus + their own Sabbath keeping.
THis video does not give a complete picture, we should look into what really happened from a wide range of sources before writing the who thing off completely. we need to have a foundation for our beliefs, what ever they are eh?
I am fascinated by this story and I personally look forward to seeing it as well. Though they will in all likelihood edit the history to give EGW a positive seer status but nevertheless it will be interesting. We can only hope they will put in the historical facts such as the suicides, the people who starved themselves and their children because they sold everything and gave their money to the date setting movement. Let me know when it comes out
Who cares what you all jabbering on about? If you don't understand this without the comments of others your opinions are a waste... I want to see the whole thing, can't wait.
did he say they were impressed by his his knowledge of the bible his understanding of prophecy and his ability to explain things clearly and succinctly. i could have sworn Miller was wrong about prophecy and the imminent return of his sweet Jesus
"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the SON, but ONLY THE FATHER! be on guard! be alert! YOU DO NOT KNOW WHEN THAT TIME WILL COME! Mark 13:32-33.. now who is miller, white, smith and some stupid false prophet around the world including mohammad! NONSENSE!
baptist, 7th day adventist, jehovah witnesses and some protestant affiliated with this william miller.. great dissapointment with this religion also..
William Miller and Ellen White = Evangelicals
Evangelicals = delusional, crazy people!!!
420BongLord 1 month ago
William Miller and Ellen White = crazy people!!! Beware!!!!
Giselle5253 1 month ago
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angelcode777 2 months ago
that is funny as hell and what make it even more funny is that we have a name for it "the great Disappointment." the people back then were really stupid to follow that man.
jack305666 2 months ago
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@jack305666, and they're even more stupid now for following Ellen White. Seventh Day Adventism is built on deception. Ellen White revived William Miller's "The Great 1844 Disappointment" with the lie of "The Investigated Judgment." And Adventists act like idiots because they are under a veil of religious insecurity.
angelcode777 2 months ago
I guess in all their reading they forgot the bit "no-one knows the day or hour....."
Well it's all water under the bridge now, and whoever made the prediction was a false prophet, was he stoned to death?
ProGodAntiReligion 2 months ago
How these movements like JW's, Adventists and Camping, can continue to hold power in the light of their failed predictions is beyond belief. You'd think they would quietly go away, and disappear up their own fundaments, but no - their followers continue to believe in these cults of errors and thereby deceive and influence more along the way. Why don't they ever wake up?
45DidDid 3 months ago
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PublicChristianity99 3 months ago
ellen white was an american nut even worse than palin
chaka943 4 months ago
He was right. Check the Bahai Faith which commenced on May 23 1844. The only mistake he made was he expected a physical return as opposed to a spiritual return.
dharam9 4 months ago
Daniel 7:9 cannot be out of context, because if you read Daniel chapter 7 you can see a chronological order from the beginning of the chapter to the end. If you read Daniel 1-9 and Revelation totally harmonize. If you read a little later, the world has not ended yet Daniel 7:9 and over you can clearly see that. Hebrews 4:14 "Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.
medicello9 4 months ago
Jehovah's witnesses go door to door to enlist members... The SDA hold seminars on healthy eating to lure people to their cult...
imax1971 5 months ago
May 23, 1844, in Elam, the Bab declared Himself to be the Promised One. Jeremiah 49:38 said "The Lord shall set His throne in Elam." This is where Daniel's visions took place. The Bab (Gate) was killed July 9, 1850 by a firing squad of 750 Muslim soldiers. He spoke of "Him Whom God shall make manifest." This is Baha'u'llah (Glory of God), imprisoned and exiled for 40 years, from Persia to Iraq, Constantinople, Adrainople, to Akka, in Israel. His followers still imprisoned, killed in Iran.
fsmtdaler 8 months ago
religious nutters ....
zaqmlp1234 8 months ago
Only God knows the end of the world, Anyone trying to predict it is putting themselves above God.
SwampGator100 9 months ago
@SwampGator100 I agree. There is not any scripture that supports an investigative judgement.
radiomanguy 8 months ago
@radiomanguy Daniel 7:9 "I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool:his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire." Daniel 7:10 "A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: THE JUDGMENT was set, and the books were opened.
medicello9 4 months ago
@medicello9 That is not an investigative judgment and you are taking the scripture out of context. Read Titus 3:5 and Ephsian 2:8,9
radiomanguy 4 months ago
@radiomanguy Hebrews 4:14 can clearly show us that the God head operates in harmony with the Sanctuary. It is true that we are not saved by works, But you need to see that God wants us to do our part also. He is now ministering as our High Priest, He did not just die, he rose and entered the holy place, and later to the most holy place in which he is Ministering in our behalf.
medicello9 4 months ago
@medicello9 At boes not
radiomanguy 4 months ago
I read up on William Miller. He sold white ascension robes to his followers so they can have something to wear when they go to heaven. What I can't understand is, why didn't he just give the robes to them instead? He couldn't spend the money if the world ended. (hint hint)
SwampGator100 9 months ago
@SwampGator100 What book did you read? People who have scoured the primary sources would never make such a patently false statement. William Miller was certainly accused of that, but when a reward was offered to produce one such robe, no body could claim it. It was false. These people held a faith so unlike Christians today who love the world and are one with it. This movement is so unappreciated and little understood.
thinkingman07 9 months ago
Baha'i Faith began in 1844 in Persia...
macmac293 9 months ago
You'd never see a Jewish person do something so stupid.
MaxamillianArturo 9 months ago 2
Me thinks Fat Tony has you pegged, you best be leaving this false church,these are no better off than the Catholics and muzzies . When I see people following these false religions, and refuse to see how false it is, even with tons of facts and false prophesies to prove it to them,It brings to mind this verse.......I shall send unto them a Strong Dream,and they shall dream a dream, in which they shall never awaken.
DefendYourRights1 10 months ago
For false christ and false prophets shall rise and show great signs and wonders to decieve ,if possible, even the elect. See I have told you beforehand,Therefore if they say to you,Look he is in the desert! do not go out; or Look he is the inner rooms! do not believe it. For as the lighting comes from the east and flashes to the west, so shall the coming of the Son of Man be.But of that day and hour no one knows,not even the angels of heaven,but my Father only .
DefendYourRights1 10 months ago
Fat tony has been on a crusade against the Seventh Day Adventist church for quite sometime.You wont find anything positive coming from him/her. No time spentn helping the poor, or giving Bible studies ,not directing people toward the Lord nor any such thing as that.These are all things the Seventh Day Adventist Church does.
lexscripta1 10 months ago
If a person compares the doctrine of 1844 with the scriptures, you don't find it. Instead, you find many things which stand against it. If anyone is interested, I have a series of videos that delve into the 1844 topic.
Myhopeisinhim 11 months ago
Ask an SDA if they are saved by grace alone and they nod their head. But ask them if they are certain that they are saved and if they can be saved if they ceased Sabbath works,and this is what you get:
1. "Hmm not sure".
2. "I don't think so, shrug"
3. "I am working on it"
4. "I need to clean myself up first"
5. "There are a few sins I need to gain victory over first".
Can you see it? Adventists give lip service about salvation by grace alone, but they really rely on works to be saved!!!
FatTonyAU 11 months ago
@FatTonyAU Its funny you say that, because when I read the sermon on the mount, I don't find Jesus telling every one that they are saved by Grace alone. Instead I find him saying "Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commands and teaches men so shall be called least in the kingdom...and therefore whoever does and teaches men so shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven." Could it be that Christians today have erected a false standard from twisting Paul's words?
thinkingman07 9 months ago
Questions for Adventists:
1. Do you add or remove words from the Holy Scriptures? Y/N? If no, why not?
2. Do you agree with the SDA for removing "ATONEMENT" from Lev 16:10 in their Clear Word Bible to make it comply to EGW views and teachings? Y/N?
3. Is Satan your FINAL SIN BEARER? If yes, then show me where it teaches this in Scripture. If no, then do you reject what EGW taught regarding this?
4. Is the scapegoat [Lev 16: 10] Satan or the risen Jesus?
5. Will Satan pay for your sins?
FatTonyAU 11 months ago
The SDA cult is the ONLY denomination in the world that teaches the "Investigative Judgment" doctrine, because the truth is that it's NOT taught in Bible, it's only taught in Ellen G White books, the Adventists false teacher and false prophet who have led millions astray with her false doctrines and false gospel. I speak from personal experience,I was a member of this deceptive cult for over 10 years,but one day I began to study Bible for myself and realised she taught a lot of error and deceit!
FatTonyAU 1 year ago
@FatTonyAU
May the One Eternal Lord Joseph Smith have mercy on your soul, sister, for you have been mislead about the Truth through a corrupted version of what the blessed Forefather had truly envisioned for our faith. I testify before you that Joseph Smith, who has risen from death, is true Lord and Savior over all Creation and unto Him only do I live my life in truth, baring much fruit in the witness that my heart has confirmed.
Mormonites 11 months ago
@FatTonyAU And Jesus was the only jew on earth that said that the King of the Jews would die instead of leading Israel to a victory over the Roman Empire as was universally believed by the "main stream believers" of his time - So what's your point?
lexscripta1 10 months ago
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These question for Seventh-day Adventists will prove they are a cult who rely on Sabbath works to be saved:
If you stopped attending Church service on Sabbath, and instead began attending Church service on Sundays, can you still be saved by grace alone and still avoid receiving the Mark of the Beast?
YES OR NO?
OR will God reject you and will you receive the Mark of the Beast and be lost because you attended Church on Sundays and didn't perform weekly Sabbath works?
YES OR NO?
FatTonyAU 1 year ago
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kenjg67 1 year ago
@FatTonyAU I know you don't like explanations, just a simple answer, so here are the plain answers. If you want explanations just ask.
1. YES
2. NO
SDA is not a cult btw ;)
GamerDude573 1 year ago
@GamerDude573 I would like to ask you 2 questions please:
1. Do you believe you are infallible and have perfect understanding and perfect interpretation of entire Scripture? Yes or No?
2. If you answered No, then can you please tell me what part of Bible you have misunderstood and misinterpreted.
FatTonyAU 1 year ago
Is there any other SDA who can answer my question?:) (I bet there's not a single on who can answer directly!)
"In order to let Jesus into our hearts, we must stop sinning." - {ST, March 3, 1890 par. 3}
"To be redeemed means to cease from sin." Review & Herald, Sept. 25, 1900.
" ... conversion is not completed until he attains to perfection of Christian character." Testimonies, Vol. 2, p. 505.
If you claim those comments are taken out of context, then put them into context for me. Anyone?
FatTonyAU 1 year ago
@FatTonyAU Yes I can and I have but you will not accept it, you run away and ignore it, you simply copy/paste your same spam statement over and over without having a proper conversation.
This is kinda getting fun because every time I see you spray the same insolent words around you make me smile. You make me happy because you made me reappraise my beliefs and I now believe them stronger. Thank you
You have accused and come up short.
Thanks for making me smile ;)
indimedia 1 year ago
This is what the demon inspired false prophet Ellen G White wrote:
"In order to let Jesus into our hearts, we must stop sinning." - {ST, March 3, 1890 par. 3}
"To be redeemed means to cease from sin." Review & Herald, Sept. 25, 1900.
" ... conversion is not completed until he attains to perfection of Christian character." Testimonies, Vol. 2, p. 505.
If an SDA claim those quotes are taken out of context,ask them to put them into context, and watch them run and hide cause they cannot do it.
FatTonyAU 1 year ago
@FatTonyAU You will not accept the context!!! That is pretty plain and simple to see.
indimedia 1 year ago
@indimedia I am laughing so hard that my belly aches LOL :)
You are such a typical brainwashed and deceived Adventist!You are NO different to the others that I have asked those questions.You all do the same,run and hide from my questions and sidestep them,even consorting to lying to cover your bases so you can avoid answering my questions.The reason is that you are UNABLE to place those EGW statements into context,because the truth is they are ALREADY in context,proving EGW was a false teacher!
FatTonyAU 1 year ago
@FatTonyAU I am glad you are laughing, it is good for you ;) The fact is if you scroll down a little you will notice that I did answer your question. If you want to believe that EGW is a false teacher, then that's up to you. I will not condemn you for it. I simply ask for the same, I believe she has a lot to offer in her writings, I don't place them in league with the bible.
I believe in religious liberty and will respect your beliefs, I ask for the same.
Glad I can make you laugh :)
indimedia 1 year ago
@indimedia I have a question for you. I am hoping that you are not too frightened to answer it and don't sidestep it and try to run and hide from this question.
What did Ellen G White teach about the "Sunday laws" Mark of the Beast, and who will get it, and WHY will they get the "Sunday laws" Mark of the Beast?
If you are unable to answer that question, then go ask your SDA Pastor to answer it for you, and then come back here and tell everyone the answer.
I look forward to your answer.
FatTonyAU 1 year ago
@FatTonyAU Why do you run from my answers, I have answered this question already, directly! In fact I answered it with and EGW quote that outlines what she teaches.
I do not need to go to my 'pastor'. I have answered this but you ignored my answer and switched to different question, then when I answer that question you switch back to this one.
Your tactics are getting a little to predictable.
indimedia 1 year ago
@FatTonyAU A lesson of context:
The bible states, "If your right hand makes you stumble, cut it off and throw it from you'. Have parts of your body made you sin? I am sure they have. Have you cut them off? If not then you are in contempt.
Is what I just said above right? Absolutely not because it is out of context.
Look at the R&H statement, EGW writes in the sentence before. He who says, "I am sinless," is self-deceived. To entertain such a thought is blasphemy.
Its elementary my dear...
indimedia 1 year ago
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@indimedia You keep telling lies after lies! You are in fact a pathological and habitual liar! You have NOT answered my question at all! STOP LYING, John 8:44!
"In order to let Jesus into our hearts, we must stop sinning." - {ST, March 3, 1890 par. 3}
"To be redeemed means to cease from sin." Review & Herald, Sept. 25, 1900.
" ... conversion is not completed until he attains to perfection of Christian character." Testimonies, Vol. 2, p. 505.
Do you agree with those EGW comments? Y/N?
FatTonyAU 1 year ago
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@indimedia Put these EGW quotes into context for me:
"In order to let Jesus into our hearts, we must stop sinning." - {ST, March 3, 1890 par. 3}
"To be redeemed means to cease from sin." Review & Herald, Sept. 25, 1900.
" ... conversion is not completed until he attains to perfection of Christian character." Testimonies, Vol. 2, p. 505.
Stop running and cowering! You claim they are not in context, so what is the proper context? Tell me. You are making a fool of yourself atm!
FatTonyAU 1 year ago
@FatTonyAU Answer me this:
I am a baptised Seventh-day Adventist. Am I a Christian? YES or NO
I have faith in Jesus. Am I saved? YES or NO
indimedia 1 year ago
@indimedia I'll answer it for you dude:
1. Only God knows your heart. Being part of a church doesn't make you a Christian, but from what I've seen I would say yes.
2. Of course
GamerDude573 1 year ago
Paul says:"7Have I committed an offence in abasing myself that ye might be exalted, because I have preached to you the gospel of God freely?" 2 Corinthians 11:7 (King James Version). "So let each one give as he purposes in his heart, not grudgingly or of necessity; for God loves a cheerful giver" (2 Corinthians 9:7).Thiting back then were lambs, offerings what you harvested. We have all payments, bills, rental house to pay!!! How SDAs keeps wanting too much money like that!!!
USVictory 1 year ago
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They are money hungry; they lure you to their churches. Then they tell you to pay 10% of your checks,& you shouldnot eat pork, quail,frog meats..., neither cat fish. This is a weirdest denomination I've ever seen. In their services, they always say aloud to destroy the Catholics. In their booklets, they always say Catholic pope is the AntiChrist/ the Beast/ the whore of Babylon. They say Catholics are Con-men, whores, thieves.They throw off on Catholics like that just to get money!!!
USVictory 1 year ago
@USVictory If this is the weirdest religion you have seen, then you have not lived my friend, because they are pretty mainstream to what I've seen around the world.
indimedia 1 year ago
if you are in Jesus Christ and accept him as his savior, you will accept also his Precepts Exodus 20:1-17, your claiming that you are save but your still here in this dark world, exalting yourself is not Good, unless you must study the KJV Bible and the Spirit of Prophecy which is the testimony of Jesus Christ, Revelation 19:10 “… for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.” I love her writings even I'm not anymore a SDA, but I believe she is a 100% prophetess not 99.9% but 100%
TheRobinzz 1 year ago
read the Bible and figure it out, EGW is a Prophet 100% to me, not 99.9% but 100% I can prove that, any of you wants a comment, just comment me
TheRobinzz 1 year ago
I too was an SDA cult member for 12 years. I was too scared to leave because they had me brainwashed into thinking that I cannot be saved unless I had SDA membership and faith in EGW. But one day God spoke to my heart and clearly called me out of the SDA cult Babylon. Now I am free in Christ Jesus and now Jesus is my 100% complete Saviour, where before Jesus + Sabbath + Satan + EGW were my Saviours, but now only Jesus is my complete Saviour! Praise Jesus, Amen.
FatTonyAU 1 year ago
@FatTonyAU Ha ha ha - here you are again, same comment, copy/paste.
indimedia 1 year ago
@indimedia Answer these questions honestly and directly:
1. How is a person justified and saved?
2. What does a person need to do once they have been justified and saved to remain justified and saved?
3. What can happen for a person to lose their justification and salvation and how can the person be justified and saved again?
(I bet he won't provide direct and honest answers because he knows his answers will expose his trust in his works to be saved. He is lost in Babylon(legalism)
FatTonyAU 1 year ago
@FatTonyAU :D I'm playing with you FatTonyAU, lighten up. I believe I have answered this question. You say I have not. We will have to agree to disagree.
indimedia 1 year ago
@indimedia It's hilarious actually! Every single SDA I have asked those questions to, do one of 2 things:
1. Totally ignore me, run and hide.
2. Falsely claim they have answered me when in fact and reality, they never did. They lie about it because they cannot provide an answer, but due to their pride and self-righteousness they need to protect their ego, so they blatantly lie and claim they answered when they in fact never did.
Typical SDA rotten fruit! By their fruit you shall know them!
FatTonyAU 1 year ago
@FatTonyAU What is funny is that:
- I have answered you but you will not accept my answer
- I have been totally honest with you and you call me a liar
- I quoted EGW to you (as requested) and you ignored it
- You accuse me of being rotten fruit
- I have asked you questions and you did not answer
It is obvious you will not accept anything I say. That's cool, I'm not out to convert you, just to simply put my case forward.
PS Off to the GC in a week, got meetings there, can't wait
indimedia 1 year ago
@indimedia What answer? Where? Quote? Link?
You are a lying Adventist with a forked tongue! You have NEVER answered my questions, so stop falsely claiming that you have!
Instead of parroting that you have answered me, just answer me. And if you have answered, then copy and paste that answer again here or give me the link to your answer!
Stop playing EGW games...admit your errors and come to Christ!
FatTonyAU 1 year ago
@FatTonyAU You are the one playing the EGW game, not I. I already have come to Christ. I have no need to 'explain' myself.
NO my tongue is not forked, its quite normal
NO I am not a parrot
YES I am sick of your spam.
We do not have to agree, I give you the respect to believe what you want without bombarding you where I feel your theology is wrong. I ask for the same
The fact is, we both might be wrong, i guess we will find out when we have this conversation in heaven.
indimedia 1 year ago
@indimedia As I predicted,you ran from my questions! I will ask again:
Do you agree with the following EGW statements?
"In order to let Jesus into our hearts, we must stop sinning." - {ST, March 3, 1890 par. 3}
"To be redeemed means to cease from sin." Review & Herald, Sept. 25, 1900.
" ... conversion is not completed until he attains to perfection of Christian character." Testimonies, Vol. 2, p. 505.
If you claim those quotes are taken out of context, then put them into context for me.
FatTonyAU 1 year ago
@FatTonyAU Why do you persecute Jesus loving Christians?
Let look at R&H in context: "He who says, "I am holy, I am sinless," is self-deceived. To entertain such a thought is blasphemy. Not to see the marked contrast between Christ and ourselves is not to know ourselves. He who does not abhor himself can not understand the meaning of redemption. To be redeemed means to cease from sin.
Yep you took that out of context, what a beautiful statement, I am blessed for reading it today. Thank you.
indimedia 1 year ago
@indimedia Do you agree with the following EGW statements?
"In order to let Jesus into our hearts, we must stop sinning." - {ST, March 3, 1890 par. 3}
"To be redeemed means to cease from sin." Review & Herald, Sept. 25, 1900.
" ... conversion is not completed until he attains to perfection of Christian character." Testimonies, Vol. 2, p. 505.
If you claim those quotes are taken out of context, then put them into context for me.
Don't run and hide from this...answer me and be a man for once.
FatTonyAU 1 year ago
@indimedia I have a question for you. I am hoping that you are not too frightened to answer it and don't sidestep it and try to run and hide from this question.
What did Ellen G White teach about the "Sunday laws" Mark of the Beast, and who will get it, and WHY will they get the "Sunday laws" Mark of the Beast?
If you are unable to answer that question, then go ask your SDA Pastor to answer it for you, and then come back here and tell everyone the answer.
I look forward to your answer.
FatTonyAU 1 year ago
@FatTonyAU Last time you asked me this question I quoted EGW for you and you said I did not answer. What more can I do???? My answer was an EGW quote responding to your question. Then you say i did not answer. You have ignored my answer and wrongfully accused me of not answering it.
indimedia 1 year ago
ATTENTION ADVENTISTS: Ask your SDA Pastor this following question.
If I have faith in Jesus, yet attend Church on Sundays and not Saturdays(Sabbath), can I still be saved by faith and grace alone, and can I still avoid the coming Mark of the Beast (Sunday Laws)?
His answer will be NO, which will prove that Adventists rely on their Sabbath works to save them. They view the Sabbath as their god and saviour, and the truth is they believe they will be lost if they stop performing Sabbath works.
FatTonyAU 1 year ago
Ellen White had no great vision. William Miller having predicted multiple returns of the coming of Christ, walked out on his home spun religion. Those left holding on to nothing, like Ellen White, had to salvage Millers false theology. Ellen then discovered a way to redeem the total errors Miller had left, tell lies. There is no need to cleanse any sanctuary in Heaven that GOD resides in. This is to say GOD dwells in sin. The Bible mentions no sin in Heaven save Lucifer and his followers.
havenoneatall 1 year ago
@havenoneatall im with you.
ST8URCASE 1 year ago
that sort of sad but sucked because they gave up there money only if they had a bank they could offed saved it but no lol
n0ise420 1 year ago
epic fail
fallbread 1 year ago
It is only by God's grace that Christ's return has been delayed. People, once the Word of God has reached all, we won't have to speculate on Christ's return. For those who didn't heed the call sadly will know when their sight is blinded and they are destroyed by the brightness of his coming and for those who have held on to the promise, they will joyfully be caught up to meet Christ in the air on that Great Day!
ydani03 1 year ago
Happy Great Disappointment Day!
djhamstra 1 year ago
All religions are a bunch of made up stuff.
pachecosita 1 year ago
@pachecosita i bet your life is a reat disappoitment no offence
n0ise420 1 year ago
@n0ise420 hello!
yeah It was a big disappointment when I found out that all I have been taught is just made up stuff from "smart" people through out the ages. How people have used religion to control you, and keep you on check.
I bet your life doesn't have disappointments, because you figured it all out. Congrats!
pachecosita 1 year ago
The whole thing was error from the start! SDA have tried in vain to hold on to the heresy of 1844 to try and put their church up on a pedestal as the only true church of God. Its a form of blasphemy.
cornerstone111 1 year ago
@cornerstone111 for your information all religions are a BIG disappointment. Open your eyes and mind and you will see how what you have been following is absurd.
pachecosita 1 year ago
They were all right the end will come on day, but Jesus left us a little indicator as to those who will be shown saving grace at that time, Matt 5: only those who have chosen to be mercifull will be the ones shown mercy at that time. We each must search our hearts for extent we willing to extend that mercy. and I believe Ellen White was right, we should be mercifull toward animals as well.
Please pray this day for all the chickens in battery cages and pigs in hell holes.
Blessings
3finker 1 year ago
Im a 20 yr old and that what I believed for sometime but as I read the Bible and the Spirit of Prophecy God, it is very very clear that it is by grace alone that we can be saved. Not by any acts or ordinances. No ifs or buts. And as we fall in love with God, we will seek to do His will and keep His commandments. It won't be a burden at all. It is something that we do because we love doing it for Him. And I am privileged to be a part of this church and of this last day movement.
rbgwapa 1 year ago
@rbgwapa Yes, grace is the only thing! I have faith in God and accept Jesus as my lord and saviour, that`s why I don`t feel bad about routinely raping children and beating elderly people for money.
paolo27th 1 year ago
I was a member of the Seventh-day Adventist Denomination for 12 years but I have now resigned my membership because I came to understand and realise that I am saved by faith and grace alone, not by works or personal Sabbath keeping that the SDA teach. I teach the gospel of justification,sanctification and righteousness by faith alone. But now most Adventists abuse me and call me a child of Satan. Once I came out of Babylon/SDA I am set free in the grace and righteousness of Christ. Praise Jesus!
The1Antonio1 1 year ago
@The1Antonio1 I have been an adventist for 5 yrs. I came out of the baptist church. Never once in the 5 yrs have I been taught that I have to follow ellen white. I am saved by grace thru faith and not of my works lest I should boast. God says if we love him keep on sinning, NO. Keep his commandments. I love the law because I love him. I love the sabbath for the same reason. That is the day he gave us. Don't condem all sda churches because of your persnal ex. at the church you attended.
huminbyrd1 1 year ago
@The1Antonio1 I have been an adventist for 5 yrs. I came out of the baptist church. Never once in the 5 yrs have I been taught that I have to follow ellen white. I am saved by grace thru faith and not of my works lest I should boast. God says if we love him keep on sinning, NO. Keep his commandments. I love the law because I love him. I love the sabbath for the same reason. That is the day he gave us. Don't condem all sda churches because of your personal ex. at the church you attended.
huminbyrd1 1 year ago
matt 24;36
KnoxKnowsBest 1 year ago
Folks, this is so false; there was no handclaping in he church, Ellen White wrote against these things; also, William Miller is presented here as an insane preacher, out of his mind, shaking, shouting, like some lunatic. He was a godly, pious man, not someone out of his mind.
outhdare 1 year ago
This video clearly shows the insanity of religious beliefs. :)
olegaaso 1 year ago
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Adventists believe they are lost if they were to stop attending SDA Church Service every Sabbath to sing a song or two, pay their tithe, hear a sermon and go home. If they stopped doing this "work", they believe they are lost and will receive the future Mark of the Beast. Ask any Adventist if they believe they will be saved if they stopped attending SDA Sabbath Church Service! Their answer reveals they rely on personal Sabbath keeping to remain saved! There is your proof of SDA legalism!
The1Antonio1 1 year ago
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I was a SDA for 12 years, and they are definitely a CULT! Since I resigned my SDA membership, I have been called evil, satan follower, lost and a deceiver by certain Adventists. SDA teach that only they are the selected and special "remnant church" and everyone else is deceived and will be lost when they receive the Mark of the Beast. SDA is a CULT! I know from personal experience, I was a member for 12 years. But God called me out of Babylon(legalism) and into the grace of God.
The1Antonio1 1 year ago
Incredible ignorance amongst not only our nation, but throughout the world. Most people who refute "all religions" have never studied what those religion believe. But again, that is what God's divine Word tells us will happen in the end times. "Come out of Babylon..."
baffledoverit 1 year ago
@bryanbeltline however the ten wil not be the one that wil judge the world. infact the world is already judged by this one commandment. john 3:18
we can catagorize sin into those but i want you to understand that the word commandments in the new testament does not refer to the ten actualy Paul used the word law to describe those in the ten, there are many more commandments in the new. i wil have toget back to you i dont have time
God Bless
Acerrak 1 year ago
@bryanbeltline many people from mormanism feel the same way about joseph smith and if there is amything wrong with aprophet I.E. a prophecy made that does not happen then the prophet should be evaltuated tobe authentice
Acerrak 1 year ago
SDA teach a false gospel of legalism and a false doctrine of the Investigate Judgment and what that false teaching does is add uncertainty for Adventists where they have NO IDEA if they are saved or not!
Jesus said in John 14:1-3 that if you trust in Him HE WILL COME BACK FOR YOU and take you to heaven!
But Adventists say NO! Even though you trust in Jesus, HE MAY NOT COME BACK FOR YOU TO TAKE YOU TO HEAVEN! SDA call Jesus a liar!
The1Antonio1 1 year ago
@The1Antonio1 When it comes down to it, God doesn't care whether you call yourself an 'Adventist' or not--he only WANTS for you to CHOOSE to live forever with him. As far as I know, this is what Seventh-day Adventists believe--they don't believe in 'once saved always saved' because God does not TAKE AWAY your freedom of choice... but if you remain in Christ, you CAN have assurance of salvation... not as an 'Adventist', but as a follower of THE WAY...
thegambitking 1 year ago
@thegambitking Your comments reveal your ignorance in what the SDA truly believe and truly teach.
Adventists believe they are lost if they were to stop attending SDA Church Service every Sabbath to sing a song or two, pay their tithe, hear a sermon and go home.
If they stopped doing this "work", they believe they are lost and will receive the future mark of the beast.
Ask any SDA if they believe they will be saved if they stopped attending SDA Sabbath Church Service! There is your proof!
The1Antonio1 1 year ago
@The1Antonio1 Which Adventists do you know??? Anyways, we should all waste less time squabbling over denominations and more time getting into God's word... I don't think of myself as an 'Adventist' as a denominational label... I think of myself as a SINNER who is SEEKING Jesus daily... and I believe that the Seventh-day Adventist church is correct in their keeping of the fourth commandment of the Bible--that doesn't mean that I am legalistic or judgmental towards others...
thegambitking 1 year ago 2
@thegambitking i was about to ask @The1Antonio1 the SAMMMMME question. I've been born and raised SDA and I don't know anyone who believes that they are lost if they aren't going to church every single Sabbath. There is more to the SDA belief system than going to church.
did you go to GC?
Candie4JC 1 year ago
@Candie4JC I didn't go, since I'm in Sagunto, Spain, right now for an ACA programme, but my parents and brother went, I think... (As you can imagine, it's pretty crazy over here with the world cup and all--go Netherlands!)
thegambitking 1 year ago
@thegambitking Oh i have three friends there for the ACA program too. i was just talking to my bff about how lucky those three are to be there (and I guess you are too!) haha don't root for the netherlands TOO loudly over there haha! espero que estas teniendo mucho divertido en espana!!
did you guys get to watch any of the GC from there? I played in the GC Mass Orchestra, so that was an intense experience. never seen so many SDAs in my LIFE!!
Candie4JC 1 year ago
@bryanbeltline there is more out of desire of ages than these some dealing with judas and others, my goal Here is just to Get people away from her teachings and Focus on the Word more. though her writings are nice and some are correct, they are feeled with her personal oppinions and views and we cant base our faith on that, it has to be a solid Word and that comes from God
God Bless!
Acerrak 1 year ago
@bryanbeltline actualy the ten commandments was Glorious but how much more is the new covenant? 2 corinthians 3
if the ten were the old what is the new? the letter kileth but the spirit Gives Life. there is nothing Like the precious Holy Ghost sister, all the ten did was point to Christ, it was a chool teacher till Jesus Got here
Acerrak 1 year ago
the ten commandments themselves do not mention anything about greed, or glutony, tor witchcraft and they dont even talk about repentance. in fact it wont be these that will condem the world but what we find is the world is already condemned by this john 3:18
Love fullfills them and the sabbath my dear sister is now rest in the Holy Spirit, that is the Mark that God puts on you! no longer a day that seperates God Bless!
Acerrak 1 year ago
@bryanbeltline very Good look on the elder sons, i want to point out that when the angel of the Lord came to Joesph he said Get up leave go to egypt, and the bible recounts that only him mary and Jesus went, also the geneology tree on both acounts do not mention another wife, but yes Jesus had brothers and sisters they all however were younger
Acerrak 1 year ago
@bryanbeltline WRONG!!!!
Your first lie when you hinted that Adventists are keeping 10 Commandments, because the truth is Adventists are SINNERS and SINNERS breaks the 10 Commandments.
And James said if you stumble in just one point, you are guilty of breaking the WHOLE 10 COMMANDMENTS!
Bryan, are you claiming you are a perfect 10 Commandment keeper and are you claiming you never ever sin anymore?
Yes or No?
If No, then you admit you are a sinner, and that sinners are law breakers?
The1Antonio1 1 year ago
@bryanbeltline you also need to understand that the sabath was a shadow col 2:16-17 even in the greek sabataon is used representing the weekly sabath, the day of rest was pointing to a greater rest in Christ.
Mathew 11:28-29 rest for the soul, revelations 14:14
it is no longer a day but rest in the Holy Spirit. the Spirit is the seal of the new covenant, no longer the sabath ephesians 4:29
God Bless
Acerrak 1 year ago
@bryanbeltline nehamiah 9 :14 states the sabbath was not revielled until moses.
exodus 31:16 states this was a covenant to the nation of Israel only
deuteronomy 5:1-3 states that the ten were only given to them at mt sinai.
hebrews 8:13, 2corinthians 3 galations 4 all talk about he old covenant going away which was the ten commandments and the law and that a newer covenent would be made
Acerrak 1 year ago
@bryanbeltline desire of the ages, she stated Jesus had older brothers. I own some of her books how can this be when He was born of a virgin. also she stated that jesus could not see past the grave though Christ Himself said destroy this temple in 3 days i will raise it. she even stated that Jesus did not know if God excepted Him as a sacrifice for the sins of the world
there are more but those always stick out
Acerrak 1 year ago
Romans 4:1-5 What then shall we say that Abraham, our forefather, discovered in this matter? If, in fact, Abraham was justified by works, he had something to boast about—but not before God. What does the Scripture say? "Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness." Now when a man works, his wages are not credited to him as a gift, but as an obligation. However, to the man who does not work but trusts God who justifies the wicked, his faith is credited as righteousness.
The1Antonio1 1 year ago
ATTENTION Adventists: Are you a perfect Sabbath keeper? Yes or No?
If Yes, then do you claim you are actually perfectly keeping the Sabbath Commandment without flaw at all?
And do you then claim you keep the whole 10 Commandments perfectly and that you are now sinless, because James said if you break 1 point you break the whole law! So you would need to be a perfect 10 Commandment keeper to be classified as a Perfect Sabbath Keeper.
If your answer is No,then you admit you are a Sabbath breaker?
The1Antonio1 1 year ago
Hi Everyone!
I invite you to visit the website my husband and I started, "Sabbatismos: Finding Our Rest in Christ." (Just google "Sabbatismos"). We have written essays on EGW and the Investigative Judgment doctrine, which SDAs later proposed to explain why Christ didn't return in 1844 as Miller's calculations had indicated.
Blessings in Christ,
Sabbatismos
Sabbatismos49 1 year ago
Clearly some people have strong opinions either way in this discussion. God only knows the hearts of each individual. I come from the point of view that first and foremost, God loves me and wants to save me. My relationship with Him is very important. He has touched my heart and I feel blest. I dwell in the joy of His Love. And yes, I am Adventist. :)
crisamaranunciado 1 year ago
I believe in obedience to the 10 Commandments - but I do not believe like the SDA that my obedience contributes to me GETTING saved [Justification], STAYING saved [sanctification] now or later. If you read Galatians 4:21 and then Gal 3:1-3 with an open mind you will see that the FALSE GOSPEL that Paul opposed so vehemently was this: You initially get saved by faith in Jesus PLUS my own efforts. Jesus PLUS anything else to get saved or stay saved is the legalism of the first century.
The1Antonio1 1 year ago
I was a member of the Seventh-day Adventist Denomination for 12 years but I have now resigned my membership because I came to understand and realise that I am saved by faith and grace alone, not by works or personal Sabbath keeping that the SDA teach. I teach the gospel of justification, sanctification and righteousness by faith alone. But now most Adventists call me a child of Satan. Once I came out of Babylon/SDA I am set free in the grace and righteousness of Christ and I now see clearly.
The1Antonio1 1 year ago
@The1Antonio1 Acts 26:18 says sanctification comes by faith too. If you have renounced sanctification and the gospel of grace read Rom. 1:6; Rev.22:14. God has a place for you in his remnant church still. If you would like to study God's Word I'd be happy to share with you the clarity of the three angels' messages and answers your Bible questions.
ApocalypticGospel 1 year ago
@ApocalypticGospel Heheh, after I showed you Acts 26:18 you were shocked and surprised and now you change your tune and change your story :)
I was an SDA for years, there is nothing you can teach me that I want to be taught and that I do not already know.
Once I resigned from the SDA cult, I fell deeper in love with Jesus, closer to Him and am now free in God's saving grace, as a gift of His mercy.
Titus 3:5 he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy.
The1Antonio1 1 year ago
@The1Antonio1 No one said we are not saved by grace, we are and that's the only way Abel, Noah, Abraham, and Moses were saved!!! The issue is you don't believe Christ can save us from sin Matt.1:21. and He can keep us from sinning Jude 24,25; 1Jn.3:9, Ps.119:11. But how can we have the mind of Christ and break His commandments Phil.2:5. LOVE (Jn.14:15)& GRACE (Rom.1:5) lead to faithfully obey by the power of the gospel and Christ working in us.
You need to be humble and teachable. Peace
ApocalypticGospel 1 year ago
@The1Antonio1 Glad to hear that you are out. God's grace is so amazing. I was in for 24 years. I'd love to hear your testimony one day.
JesusIsEnough777 1 year ago
@The1Antonio1 actually u r not only saved by faith and grace alone, it takes much more than that u can have faith and show grace but u could be breaking the comments at the same time or u could be an adultery etc so really and truly u r not making any sense, i think u need to study the bible more and it's a shame u left the adventist church when it is the true church and u should know that ellen g white was a true profit, right now the devil is laughing at u
jalisa146 1 year ago
@jalisa146 Your message is a false gospel of legalism!! You are a false teacher and you are lost in works!!!
Your comments are TYPICAL of Adventists lost and deceived in legalism and you do not believe you are saved until you become perfect and sinless, exactly like Ellen White believed and taught.
You believe because you attend Church every Sabbath that God now loves you and that you are a "Commandment keeper". But truth is you are a SINNER and sinners breaks the Commandments!
The1Antonio1 1 year ago
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@jalisa146 You and SDA say, "u r not only saved by faith and grace alone"
But bible says:
Ephesians 2:8-9 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— not by works, so that no one can boast.
Titus 3:5 he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit,
You and SDA contradict the bible because you are lost in legalism!
The1Antonio1 1 year ago
@jalisa146 who is the final authority God or ellen? because her writings in the desire of ages contridict the word of God, one has to be aliar. maybe you need to spend some times in her works to see her errors in her prophecies and some of the things she stated. and no brother your in darkness, your trying to justify yourself with the law and making Christ of no effect to you
Acerrak 1 year ago
@jalisa146 anyone who refuses worship of God 7 days a week cannot even obey the first and greatest commandment Love GoD with all your heart and Soul!
the ideology of adventist cant even understand between church/ fellowship and what the sabbath was and is today.
you need to cast off the bond woman brother, cause your in bondage
Acerrak 1 year ago
Any Adventist who is still a sinner, YET still invited Jesus into their hearts do NOT believe in EGW, because EGW said the following; "In order to let Jesus into our hearts, we must stop sinning." Signs of the Times, March 3, 1898. So unless you have perfectly stopped sinning,(which nobody has), then you should not invite Jesus into your heart if you are an Adventist and if you believe in what EGW taught. EGW also said, "To be redeemed means to cease from sin." Review & Herald, Sept. 25, 1900
The1Antonio1 1 year ago
Colossians 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
rustysruger 1 year ago
@rustysruger There will likely be some people who will try and point you to forerunner and say some other law was nailed to the cross or try and say it was the sacrifices of the new moons and sabbaths that were nailed to the cross. The difficulty is that the sacrifices were tied to the days. I tried to rationalize this verse when I was an SDA.
JesusIsEnough777 1 year ago
My husband and I became Seventh Day Adventist 5 years ago because of the Truth shown to us through the Bible and the Bible only. We look forward to the Day when our Lord comes in great glory.
H3c0m1ngs0on 1 year ago
I left the SDA because one day I realised I was lost in legalism and self-works where the SDA had convinced me that I will only be saved if I keep attending Church on Saturdays and tithing. In other words, I was saved by legalism, not by works.
The SDA Pastors in my Church taught that unless you attend Church on Saturdays you will get the mark of the beast and belong to Satan, hence, they teach that my personal works will save me.
I came out of babylon/sda and now free in grace.
The1Antonio1 1 year ago
Ellen White never called herself a prophet, and never put her writings before the Bible, and never said that they should be. The Bible first always. The seventh day is the sabbath from God and for man.
redmackman 1 year ago 2
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Hello Everyone,
I invite you to visit the website my husband and I recently launched, "Sabbatismos." We pray you'll be blessed by what we have to share.
Blessings in Christ,
Sabbatismos (Heb. 4:9)
Sabbatismos49 1 year ago
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Adventists DO NOT believe in Imputed Righteousness i.e. Righteousness by faith. They believe in righteousness through Sabbath and Commandment keeping.
Ask an Adventist if they stopped attending Church on Saturday mornings if they can still be saved. Their answer is NO! Ellen White was a false teacher who has placed Adventists under works/legalism. She said: "In order to let Jesus into our hearts, we must stop sinning." Signs of the Times, March 3, 1898. Ironically she died a sinner.
The1Antonio1 1 year ago
I was a member of the Seventh-day Adventist Denomination for 12 years but I have now resigned my membership because I came to understand and realise that I am saved by faith and grace alone, not by works or personal Sabbath keeping that the SDA teach. I teach the gospel of justification, sanctification and righteousness by faith alone. But now most Adventists call me a child of Satan. Once I came out of Babylon/SDA I am set free in the grace and righteousness of Christ and I now see clearly.
The1Antonio1 1 year ago
@The1Antonio1 Wow that sad to hear, im very sad to hear people told you your a child of satan.
And you are right, we are saved by faith and grace alone. Could you elaborate why you left?
shenieva1 1 year ago
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Any Adventist who is still a sinner, YET still invited Jesus into their hearts do NOT believe in EGW, because EGW said the following; "In order to let Jesus into our hearts, we must stop sinning." Signs of the Times, March 3, 1898. So unless you have perfectly stopped sinning,(which nobody has), then you should not invite Jesus into your heart if you are an Adventist and if you believe in what EGW taught. EGW also said, "To be redeemed means to cease from sin." Review & Herald, Sept. 25, 1900
The1Antonio1 1 year ago
@The1Antonio1
"What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? Certainly not! How shall we who died to sin live any longer in it?
Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death?
Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life." Rom 6:1-4
Nirky 1 year ago
Our sin killed us, we were dead, completely powerless, it was only by His grace that we were made alive. So as Christ was raised from the dead by the Father's glory, His Holy Spirit, we now walk by the Spirit, to a life opposite of breaking His law, a life of of keeping His commandments. John 14:15 We died to sin, we cannot live anymore in it.
Nirky 1 year ago
@GloriousReturns, your comments are not even worth the keyboard it was typed on. One day you'll see the light, and hopefully, like bacteria, you won't be killed by it.
bravado2377 1 year ago
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Seventh Day Adventists are living proof that no matter how stupid the lie, if you make it big enough, some pack of fools will believe it.
GloriousReturns 1 year ago
The1Antonio1, if that's all you think or see, then you are the one deceived. Compare taught docrines with Scripture, objectively do so, and you will recognize the soundness of beliefs highly criticized because it is not popular. Truth is not by majority vote, but by the Bible. indankse, read for edification, not for debate.
guitaoist, your Nietzsche is dead, and Jesus Christ is alive, make your calling and election sure. It's your choice: go with a dead man or with the risen Saviour!
bravado2377 1 year ago 2
@bravado2377 Ya know, I have not seen Fred walking around recently, but neither Jesus.
And PLEASE don't give me some dramatic garbage about how I see him in his disciples. I can see Nietzsche just the same way.
GloriousReturns 1 year ago
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GloriousReturns 1 year ago
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William, Ellen and Cindy, they are all as deceived as each other.
I was a Seventh-day Adventist but have since come out of Babylon, the SDA because they teach deceit and a gospel of works and not salvation through Jesus alone, but they teach salvation through Jesus + their own Sabbath keeping.
The1Antonio1 1 year ago
@The1Antonio1 So choosing the road of deceit, sadly, has made you happy.
Why do you mislead people about what SDA really teaches?
Serafinos 1 year ago
@Serafinos
What do you believe Antonio is misleading about?
Myhopeisinhim 1 year ago
THis video does not give a complete picture, we should look into what really happened from a wide range of sources before writing the who thing off completely. we need to have a foundation for our beliefs, what ever they are eh?
john8:31,32
LeLavendra 1 year ago
I am fascinated by this story and I personally look forward to seeing it as well. Though they will in all likelihood edit the history to give EGW a positive seer status but nevertheless it will be interesting. We can only hope they will put in the historical facts such as the suicides, the people who starved themselves and their children because they sold everything and gave their money to the date setting movement. Let me know when it comes out
JesusIsEnough777 2 years ago
Who cares what you all jabbering on about? If you don't understand this without the comments of others your opinions are a waste... I want to see the whole thing, can't wait.
virgulec 2 years ago
did he say they were impressed by his his knowledge of the bible his understanding of prophecy and his ability to explain things clearly and succinctly. i could have sworn Miller was wrong about prophecy and the imminent return of his sweet Jesus
ufounddaz 2 years ago
"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the SON, but ONLY THE FATHER! be on guard! be alert! YOU DO NOT KNOW WHEN THAT TIME WILL COME! Mark 13:32-33.. now who is miller, white, smith and some stupid false prophet around the world including mohammad! NONSENSE!
indankse 2 years ago
baptist, 7th day adventist, jehovah witnesses and some protestant affiliated with this william miller.. great dissapointment with this religion also..
indankse 2 years ago
NIETZSCHE is the Cure for the Great Disappointment!
Please the video i posted just today to see the evidence...
guitaoist 2 years ago
Impressive! Is this from an upcoming movie?
Linda1305 2 years ago
Can't wait to see the whole thing.
gaylene21 2 years ago