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  • Why! Is this asshole still in office?

  • save that "Solemn Oath" shit for your wife, asshole. Where were your constitutional values when we went to Iraq? Defending Iraq's constitution is not in our constitution, scumbag.

  • Ensign 2004: "For those who say that the Constitution is so sacred that we cannot or should not adopt the Federal Marriage Amendment, I would simply point out that marriage, and the sanctity of that institution, predates the American Constitution and the founding of our nation."

  • He needs to go into bible study. Twist that thing to fit your needs. Classy.

    Constitution says nothing about capitol gains or "death" inheritance tax cuts either. Sure did act on them. Or even the profit of drug & health care corps.

  • Apparently didn't take an oath when he married his wife, did he?

  • neither did slick willy.

  • So, no attempt by Ensign to be a better person than "slick willy" (the wing-nut's favorite comeback, I see).

  • I think he went to go take a poop. He's gonna' be gone a while, cause' he's full of it.

  • I am glad Paris Hilton had a grandfather who took the risk of starting the Hilton Hotel chain and built it into the massive chain that it is. I'm sure the thousands of families who were and are employed by the chain are thankful of the risks he took. Being envious for how Conrad spent his money or who he gave his money to is infantile. Conrad gave more to society than 99.% of people.

  • Ya' know, a better name for democrats would be envycrats.

  • Where did I say she was less stupid?  I think she's a bum.

  • and you are telling me that you feel the government has the right to tell Conrad Hilton how he should have spent his money?

  • Conrad Hilton eventually employed thousands of people, something the 8-5 worker would never do. Yes, Conrad Hilton should be able to give his money to whoever he wants, even a spoiled granddaughter.

  • Except I didn't say taxes had nothing to do with it. Your reading skills are lacking.

  • By not addressing what I said, that means you have no problem with it, right? Good, then i'm glad we agree about what the American Revolution was about.

    I'd love to hear your little conspiracy theory about why Obama "really" wants health care.

  • Once again, the key wasn't "taxation," but "representation." The colonies wanted political sovereignty.

    Which is why after the war, they were independent, and THERE WERE STILL TAXES.

  • 1. The constitution says nothing about the degree of taxation.

    2. You clearly have no idea what socialism is.

    3. Now you seem to be saying that the problem isn't taxation, but what the taxes are funding. Please make up your mind.

  • I'll tell you what Socialism is, it is for stupid people who cannot count. They want others to pay their bills and feel others should work harder so they don't have to.

  • You actually think that the millionaires are doing more "hard work" than the poor? Seriously? So you think Paris Hilton works harder than a McDonald's employee?

  • poolman - Paris Hilton was the granddaughter of the man who worked his ass building a huge and very successful hotel chain. Conrad Hilton took tremendous risks, especially early in his career. Yes, he worked a hellava' lot harder than a 8-5 worker, taking no risks with weekends off.

  • Ah, let me see if I understand this . . .

    Paris Hilton doesn't have to do any work because her grandfather did all the work, and Paris Hilton shouldn't have to pay more taxes for it. Plus she's also less stupid than poor people who have to work hard.

    Wow, that makes perfect sense.

  • So......... You are telling me that the person who works at McDonalds gives more to Society than Conrad Hilton did?

  • It's funny that you're avoiding the mention of Paris Hilton, as if she's exempt from society thanks to everything other people did for her.

  • What is your fixation with Paris Hilton?  Are you envious because she inherited money or is famous because who she is? I could care less about her. Believe me, she pays plenty of income taxes.

  • Paris Hilton probably pays more taxes than you and I make in several years.

  • I must be name calling because you've neglected something so essential to historical fact in order to support your flawed argument.

    The revolution wasn't a protest of taxation, it was a protest of being treated like a political nonentity. If it was about taxation, why the hell would the founding fathers write taxation into the constitution?

    Please think a little more.

  • You idiot, we didn't revolt over being taxed. The entire point of the revolution was "no taxation without representation." We wanted the right to be politically recognized if we were going to be taxed.

  • So you agree that taxes are constitutional, yes?

  • Since when have taxes and tariffs ever been unconstitutional? The government's right to tax is IN the constitution.

    "Section 8: The Congress shall have power To lay and collect taxes"

  • The entire reason it's not an amendment is because it's not equivalent to the amendments.

    You don't have a right to choose whether or not to pay taxes.

    You don't have a right to choose whether or not to commit murder.

  • Except that's not what I said. There was nothing at the time resembling a health care system.

  • Even on Christmas Day?

  • It is laughable that healthcare reform is a conflict to the Constitution.

  • You may call it healthcare reform, but it is gonna be a disaster. When democrats had to bribe fellow democrats just to vote on it, you know it is a bowl of crap. As for conflict, hell yes it is. When people in my state have to pick up the tab for nebraska and other states who got sweetheart deals, damn right it is unconstitutional.

  • Yeah, well we know and his wife knows about Ensign's "solemn oaths" -

    This guy is disgusting.

  • i'm sorry, but what about that vow he made to his wife?

  • If you believe in the constitution then you better shut down the illegal and immoral wars that were started by NOT following the constitution. He must also be against illegal spying, detentions and the Patriot Act! If he for this then he is a great threat to the constitution not a defender of it.

  • jackass

  • you don't take an oath to crap in the toilet either - so what? Doesn't mean you don't crap.

  • I wonder how having an extramarital affair with a former campaign staffer who is married to one of his former legislative aides supports the constutition.

  • Nice, the senator have taken an oath to defend the constitution... sit on their hand and defend the constitution

    Don't mind debating and producing law.. just defend the constitution (like with the patriot act) do nothing else, nice pay to do nothing.

  • what a fucking douche bag.

  • Ensign is the typical conservative hypocrite-- honor- family values and failed oaths.

    "Christian politicians and evangelical leaders commonly follow an unspoken rule not to meet behind closed doors with women staff members or travel alone with them... John Ensign, who is running for senate in Nevada will not be alone in a car with a woman." -- Washington Post, September 30, 1999

    I guess John and his $96K mistress took separate cars.

  • no the constitution's job is to regulate interstate commerce.

  • Could not even respect his marriage oath. Hypocritical liar!!!!

  • Besides the obvious douche-comment about " - not to reform health-care" BS...

    Did he just say "or [to] do anything else that we think is good to do"?

    Soulless, fucking, republicans...

    If the Bible had said "just from a cliff on Christmas morning", we wouldn't see him next week... to-the-letter neanderthal, wtf

  • Ensing should be sodomized and than lobotomized...

  • No. Stop preaching violence.

  • the fucked his staffer's wife....

    lol

  • * meant to say

    the guy fucked his staffer's wife...

  • Yes Senator, we got it the first five times you said it.

    So how did you feel about warrantless wiretapping? Did that fit the US Constitution?

    How did you feel about Congress relinquishing the power to declare war to the President?

  • Eat a DICK YOU COCK SUCKING IDIOT! Don't bring up the bible you adulterous whore!

  • You know what, though? Ensign brings up a good point: why the hell do elected officials have to be sworn in with a bible, anyway? That fact only reinforces the idea to loonies like him that America is a "christian nation."

  • Nothing pisses me off more than selective constitutionalism like Ensign is doing here. The only TRUE constitutionalist in Congress is Ron Paul. All others are phonies who use the Constitution only when it benefits them.

  • @whoo689

    Well even Ron Paul likes to ignore the separation of church and state, and the 16th amendment.

    And in general tries to act like all federal legislation is illegitimate.

    And while I can certainly understand his rhetoric on how libertarianism is supposed to "self regulate" market externalities.

    greyfalcon. net/ paul1.png

    The huge loophole however is that people, like himself, merely refuse to admit that market externalities even exist, and thus avoid paying for them.

  • Externalities and the solution to them (ie- Pigovian taxes) is the elephant in the room that free market types refuse to talk about. I guess refusing to admit that externalities exists is as good a way of doing that as any.

  • As if health care is incompatible with the constitution?

  • @p00lman, What makes it compatible?

  • What makes it incompatible?

  • The "Tenther" movement would claim the Tenth Amendment means the federal govt can't do anything that it is not specifically given the power to do in the (original, non-amended) constitution. I disagree.

    I do agree, however, that people shouldn't be mandated to buy a policy. That won't stand up in court. This should be done the way every other civilized country does it, with healthcare insurance being a public service paid for through taxes. That wouldn't run afoul of the Constitution.

  • Agree, individual mandate is absolutely outrageous.

    Those dick heads create captive market for the most unnecessary, the most corrupt, the most expensive and inefficient industry in this country.

    If Supreme Court doesnt throw individual mandate to garbage we are screwed...

  • @p00lman The lack of authority over health care in Article 1.

  • Nope, see the Necessary and Proper clause. Also, see Section 9.

  • I've read that clause.

    "for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers"

    "Foregoing" means "previously stated," as in the powers listed in Article 1, Section 8. So, I don't think Congress is creating an $900 billion Post Office.

    What specifically about Section 9, though?

  • More specifically in Section 8, "and provide for the common defence and general welfare."

    And I mentioned Section 9 because it talks about limits, and does not mention anything about health care.

  • Why list 18 specific authorities if Congress has the unlimited ability to appropriate money?

    You'll note that it says "provide for the common Defence" (in the enumerated point about taxes), but then further down the list, lists specific points about declaring war and running the military. Wouldn't it be fair to assume, then, that by fulfilling the rest of the enumerated duties, they are promoting the general welfare?

  • Nope. Some points, like "promoting the general welfare" are intentionally vague to take into account situations that have yet to occur. In that day, there was no such thing as health care. How could they possibly discuss it in the constitution?

  • Intentionally vague? Really?

    If they said "common defence", why didn't they leave it at that and not go on in detail about Congress' specific authorities?

    Because "general welfare" wasn't intentionally vague.

    "They are not to do anything they please to provide for the general welfare.... [G]iving a distinct and independent power to do any act they please which may be good for the Union, would render all the preceding and subsequent enumerations of power completely useless"

    - Thomas Jefferson

  • And which enumerations of power does health care reform render useless?

  • p00lman, It's the principle. If Congress has the ability to legislate and appropriate whatever they want, it makes the Constitution useless.

  • Except that 1. It doesn't violate the constitution, and 2. It's what the American people want.

  • p00lman, 1. It's outside what's authorized in the Constitution, therefore it violates it.

    2. Fine. Then amend it.

  • Constitutional? Lordy, lordy ...

  • how about "diaper" david vitter's solemn oath to his wife? did his prostitutes help him keep it solemn?

  • Health care reform is unconstitutional under the 10th amendment.

    The Constitution is a document of enumerated powers, not unlimited powers. The whole purpose of the US Const is to limit the power of govt.

    If they want to regulate health care, they MUST pass a constitutional amendment in order to do so, because health care is not an enumerated power.

  • @freesk8

    10th amendment just says states are allowed to ignore federal laws

    Catch being the combination of Article 6's supremacy clause and Amendment 16 tend to squash that.

    And the way in which 16 works is that it gives congress the power of determining how to distribute tax revenues.

    Sure, a state can ignore federal laws, however they will be missing out on reimbursement of federal tax revenues

    i.e. That never happens.

    As for enumerated powers go, last I checked there's the Commerce Clause

  • health care reform is perfectly constitutional under article 1 section 8. your interpretation is wrong, probably because you hate America.

  • John Ensign is one of those Family Values Republicans like Diaper Dave Vitter and Larry "Widestance" Craig.

  • ....so we have to IGNORE?..... that the Obamas are HEAD of IMMORAL crackpots ..... with them taking blood money from Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorhn - WeatherUnderGround Unabombers as the basis for the start up for their SCAM-pain?....... you gotta be all fired evil to call those two cop killers your best peeps!...... and they all went to that HIDDEN TAPE in LA Times vault "Death-to-Israel" Dinner Dance for Terrorists and the Unabombers and Baama & Mitchies danced the night away with PURE EVIL!

  • like i said tpm is no different than the rest. why did they take down the day in 100 seconds. fear thats why. fear.

    go get your check and get the fuck out

  • Fear of what?

    The "Day in 100 Seconds" segment was posted back when TPM posted fewer clips. Now it posts so many more. Who cares?

  • @p00lman

    who cares. man thats some bullshit. it just so happens that tpm is on my tv when that disappears? they used to be underground and now all their roots are showing. something

    smells like shit check your soul brotha did u step in it

  • It's bullshit that TPM changed its format? Er, you mean like how ALL media programs eventually change their format?

    What is your big conspiracy theory reason for the change?

  • @p00lman

    big conspiracy theory yea. wait til the next site like tpm comes around and they change their shit to get to the next hurdle of viewers. its a rat race and no one is winning

  • So should taxes and drug laws.........

  • @Lukachicago19 = they just called it "Harry Christmas"........in honor of our last FREEDOM FROM TRYANNY CHRISTMAS.... and the Dim goob who took it = AWAY!

  • @Luka = i told one of these eco nazi crackpots who want the rest of US to finance Obamas Crap Care Ideals = to take themselves & their old skid marked one pair of hanes undies & EAT SAND (on Midway Isd)& rely on Obama "care packages of old goverment cheese" & when they have had ENOUGH?... they can call me & all of us will run out in our 100 foot Yawl called "REDNECKS"...& bring them back to a Republican heated world of 24 hour StarBucks & heated 90,000FTGrcry stores & we'll go there in a HumVEE!

  • @luka - all i was trying to point out was that its hypocritical for republicans to invoke the constitution only some of the time when it suits them politically and not ALL of the time.

  • @memama2

    Last I checked.

    If you refuse to pay any tax, and refuse to pay a fine, then you get served with jail time.

    How is this any different?

  • @greyflcn = this is a SPECIAL "new gift" marxist Obama is gifting into America!..... came right out of his brain pan - thru his DIM delusionary cult club - and into our lives (even though people do not WANT IT).......... thats "how its different"..........and we did not even get to VOTE ON IT.....just the stupid 60 dunce Dims of the Universe did ~

  • @memama2

    You know it's rather cute how it says you're 54 on your profile, but you write with the maturity of a 14 year old :P

    That said, I agree this bill is probably a bad one.

    It just annoys me when people invoke the Constitution, when they don't even seem to know or care what the document or it's amendments even say.

  • @greyflcn = gosh the elite like you with your BIG "Head-O-Popcorn" ......... are so nice to deem a response to anyone with LESS STATUS then yourself! ....... did ya VOTE for Yomama ?- cause that would explain your "response"

  • I wonder if the protection of the Constitution includes Criminal Activities like Adultery and bride to hide Adultery?

  • @JerezJulio

    Adultery isn't criminal

    That said, I agree Ensign isn't the most "moral representative" they could put out there.

    But then again, that's probably why it is him. Since it's not like his reputation can get much worse.

  • I can't find anything in the constitution that empowers congress to pass a law forcing a citizen to purchase a product or service from another person.

  • I'm progressive and I agree, lets see what SCOTUS has to say.

  • @TheMadronas = its a freak show - and the jails will be filled with people who REFUSED and got a $25,000 fine? .......so Obama= thanks! THE Seniors have been HAD!..... and the kids will get to pay THE BILLS = forever! (you can e-mail/YouTube account= me and I will bake you a cake with a plastic Al Gore eco-file and FREE YOU) ........ and anyone else you know .......Merry Christmas!

  • @lukachicago - look who's calling someone a coward - a person who is so scared shitless, they'll surrender their rights to the government.

  • I'm unfamiliar with this argument - in what way does the proposed legislation not conform to the Constitution?

  • ahahah

    this idiot republican clearly does not understand his role as US Senator.

  • Wow, what an asshole. "We didn't take an oath to reform healthcare, therefore, why should we care about it?"

  • WOW, what a dipshit. A "representative" that actually spoke about his oath, and the powers provided congress through the Constitution. How dare he!!

    It would mean something if the guy wasn't a true "republicon". They will get the majority of the congress in 2010, and we can only hope we have voted in enough NON PROFESSIONAL Politicians as possible. Maybe they can rescind all this BS UNCONSTITUTIONAL legislation for corporations, that the Demtards seem to love.

  • As with 99% of the "debate" that goes on on the Senate floor, that little bit of fluff was intended to be rhetorical red meat thrown to an energetic segment of the current Republican base (the "Tenthers"). By the same token, it can also be red meat thrown to the ant-Republican base.

    Neither of those two purposes require that it make any sense, however, and it didn't. Intellectual consistency is the only thing that's ever really "rationed" in the Senate these days.

  • Was Ensign banging His Best Friend's Wife...

    Was he thinking about the his Solemn Oath he made to hie Wife...

    While on C-Street.

    Since he's Against Government Run Health Care, he should start by Getting Rid of Government Run-Socialized Medi-Care.

  • this just IN!..........DIMS had party with expensive booze and dancing on the tables and MOCKING AMERICANS.......who do not want this OBAMA BILL

  • yours are obviously the ravings of a lunatic.

    intelligent people will simply disregard your babblings.

    you will change no minds, nor would you have your mind changed by reasonable argument.

    therefore, you are wasting your time, and wasting air and space here on this earth.

    get well soon.

  • Where was he during the Patriot Act?

  • ENSIGN has ZERO INTEGRITY.

    fucker swore an oath when he got married, didn't he?

    didn't keep him from cheating on his wife with the wife of one of his staffers!!

    Ensign = SWINE.

  • Not just one of his staffers.... his BEST FRIEND of 20 + years...... Then his father, a Vegas casino tycoon, tried to buy him off with like $70,000 or something to get him to shut up about it to the press..... Absolutely disgusting..... Sure..... I'll believe what THIS guy has to say......

  • $96k i think

  • These people give me a fucking headache.

  • Michael Savage is a joke and a douche.

    anyone who pushes his poisonous nutjob litany must surely be the same.

    get well soon.

  • @baronmorris = another drone of the king ~~~~~zzzzzzbee Obama! ~~~ and bizzee brandishing their LYING BY OMMISION~~~zzz to the other crackpot drones and grifters and commies and ~~~~zzzz becoming more africanized each day!!!! ~~zzzz now the collective hive is ~~~zzz LYING ABOUT THE CO$T OF THIS OBAMA CRAP CARE~~~~~zzzzzz and they keep sayin "it's fwee!"...... and "it's gonna save"....lol!!!!!!! LYING BY OMMISION = wait till the Obama TAX BILL comes to a mailbox at the end of your drivway !!!

  • Just VOTE EM ALL OUT IN 2010. Maybe THEY will figure out that they are going to keep their oath, and represent the people who elect them; not the people who buy them.

    If these retards want reform, elect someone who will bring some REAL CHANGE that starts in campaign/lobbyist reform FIRST!

    F*cking zombies!

  • @bigc028282 = I would vote for Dennis Miller or Bob Dole or anyone who is ready to KILL MORE TERRORISTS and reduce everyones Taxes to near nothing = thats the person who will get my VOTE!......... I would have rather given $1000 or $2000 bucks to the Salvation Army "charity fund for uninsured" and had them distribute it = rather than RUIN my ability to pay for my Provate medical care and end up with illegals pig piling onto this Obama Crap CARE = plus ROB SENIORS % DISABLED? = pathetic

  • ..thank you every single Republican Senator that has tried to OUT! the LYING BY OMMISION of these DIMS who would and have: "sold their soul to the devil" on Christmas EVE!..thank you for all your great effort & telling this country THE TRUTH!....this is Obama Crap Care & it is going to be built off the bankrupt Medicare system & steal even their LAST DIME - off the most needy of the needy and widows and foster care kids!.......who could believe the Fancy Nancy and owebaama would walk ~ OVER THEM

  • ok. it's official. ur retarded.

    UHC CEO Stephen Hemsley has $745 MILLION in stock options. 2007 pay $13.2mil; 2008 $3.2 mil.

    CIGNA CEO Edward Hanway made $120mil in last 5yrs. Stock options = $28mil.

    Humana CEO Michael McCallister's made $10.3mil in 07. $1,017,308 in 08. Stock options = $60mil.

    LARGEST GOLDEN PARACHUTE in history of corporate America goes to William McGuire of UnitedHealth 1.4 BILLION DOLLARS!

    How many DENIED life saving procedures does that take?

    BLOOD MONEY!!

  • This guy is a retarded mama's boy

  • although he is hypocritical when he decides to obey the constitution he is absolutely right in saying that the federal govt does not have the power to do what it is doing with health care right now.

  • is this guy stupid?

  • JUst War is in the Constitution

  • they're on the take. the daily show pays them to read these lines

  • hahaha  good one ;-)

  • a republican spouting off about defending the trampled american constitution.lmfao

  • take a oath have values do not have affair with your campaign stuff women.

  • I'll bet he also made a solemn oath to not c-- in his staffer's mouth.

    What about the solemn oath he gave to his wife to remain faithful?

  • The consitution explicitly permits torturing muslims and warrantless wiretapping but the founding fathers clearly didn't care a lot about the right to "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness"... I mean, clearly if someone can't afford healthcare, we should just let them die! To do anything else would be communist!

  • oath, ensign,... comedy just writes itself doesn't it???

  • They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security.

    Benjamin Franklin.

    Whiny American sissy.

  • Hey Ensign, how does your wife feel about you not defending your marriage oath you whore?

  • Mommy...Daddy....can you pay off my mistress so I can stay in the Senate and pontificate about taking solemn oaths?

  • So good to get a lecture about ethics from this guy. priceless!

  • Ensign's oath:

    To Defend and Protect the Republican Party, So Help me Rush Limbaugh

  • Oh yeah, I forgot-this is the guy who fucked his best friend's wife.

  • Why do left wing people let these assholes get away with pimping the constitution for purposes of propaganda?

  • Oh geez, that's the left-wing media bias for ya...

  • Lying, cheating, dishonesty and disrespectful ness apparently isn't forbidden in the oath either.

  • I hope somebody shoves these words back in his face the next time Ensign tries to outlaw abortion or ban gay marriage.

  • It doesn't say anything about HR 3221 in there either but he voted yes. that sent $4 billion from the federal government to state and local governments to assist with the redevelopment of abandoned and foreclosed properties. Why can't the states do that themselves?

  • Since when did people in congress start caring about the Constitution?

  • We don't take an oath to do anything that we think is good for America. Moron..

  • How is Cynthia Hampton doing John?

  • Why didn't I hear this from Republicans when trying to pass the Patriot Act? It's ridiculous they only play the constitution when its convenient for them.

  • LOL....he's lecturing about a solemn oath???

  • Screws his best friends wife... what a guy..

    Stinking pile...

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