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  • Lol. I LOVE abortion!

  • @bitememtv You should probably refrain from making ignorant comments on a situation that is as serious as this one is. If you want to be taken seriously, you should behave in a way that is fitting for the situation. When your ready to be taken seriously; do some research on abortion, develop some main points on why abortion is ok, get into a debate with me, and let me prove all of those main points to be incorrect.

  • They contacted the FBI:watch this vid- Plot To Undermine Planned Parenthood Fails

  • @irocktoohard Planned Parenthood wrote a letter to the Justice Dept. after they suspected they were being investigated. State law calls for Planned Parenthood to contact state authorities immediately which Planned Parenthood has not produced evidence that they did. Feel free to respond below with who and when Planned Parenthood contacted in accordance with state law. You can look but you won't find that they did.

  • Part 1 On January 24, Planned Parenthood released the following statement, titled "Planned Parenthood Informs Federal Authorities of Potential Sex Trafficking" [emphasis in original]: Last week, Planned Parenthood Federation of America (PPFA) alerted federal authorities to a potential multistate sex trafficking ring. Over a five day period, visitors to Planned Parenthood health centers in six states said they were seeking information from Planned Parenthood....

  • Part 2 @LiveActionFilms ...about health services Planned Parenthood could provide to underage girls who were part of a sex trafficking ring.

    Subsequent to alerting U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder, Planned Parenthood learned the identify of one of those involved and believes these visits are likely a hoax by opponents of legal abortion seeking to discredit Planned Parenthood, which delivers preventive health care and abortion services to three million women each year.

  • When you watch this call your members of congress and demand they stop funding this group. Why would any American support this and if the members of congress are so corrupt they need to be impEACHED. Black pimps hang around plane and bus station picking up yourn run aways and forcing them to be prostutes. Accord in to the report on Aids blacks and women are infected.

  • Whether it be "safe" or "unsafe" abortions, science has demonstrated that life starts at conception and that abortion ends that life.

    Making abortion "safe" does not change what it does.

  • @jgehb Throwing in your morals does not change the reason women need abortion!

  • @SuperHappyPuppy - question: how do you KNOW they are "FRUSTRATED"? You have facts to back that they are "frustrated"?

  • @jgehb Have you seen the way Lila Rose dresses and over-applies make-up? You can't tell me there's not something going on there! By the way, what kind of "facts" have you EVER seen that prove that someone is sexually frustrated? You expect me to show you photos of blue balls? It's a judgment, doofus. I'm entitled to my opinion, and Lila Rose and her brigade of pretend whores and pimps sure seem frustrated to me.

  • @SuperHappyPuppy Nice ad hom. Insulting Ms. Rose will not help you defend abortion.

  • @kbeardtheblackavengr Nothing but ad hominem attacks are possible with Lila Rose, since she doesn't actually put forward any logical arguments herself -- her methods are all about entrapment, and she goes to some pretty crazy lengths to create situations that arise from her own freaky fevered fantasies, not reality.

  • Don't force taxpayers to fund an organization that kills unborn children. In 2009, Planned Parenthood reported 332, 278 abortions.

  • @jgehb So women and young teenage girls should just go back to using metal coat hangers and dying WITH their unborn fetuses in their bathtubs because it's more humane than a significantly safer, medically equipped environment? You do realize some women aren't able to carry a baby to terms without life-threatening complications, right? Abortions aren't the exclusive solution for people who forget contraception. There's many reasons to HAVE to get one, even if they all end the same way.

  • @larbox - could you please provide me the numbers and the source(s) for those numbers regarding "women & young teenage girls should go back to using metal coat hangers and dying WITH their unborn fetuses (babies) in their bath tubs?"

    What are the statistics regarding women who must abort due to PHYSICAL "life threatening" circumstances? I'm not talking about the gray area "health of a woman", because that has been used to include not feeling like having the baby or financial circumstances.

  • @jgehb You make "not feeling like having the baby," sound like some everyday thing, on par with not wanting to do laundry on Thursdays. You can't really assume financial reasons aren't valid when having a baby costs upwards $9,000 a year, and if you're in the poverty bracket you already only make just over or under $15,000. That doesn't even include the price tag for a hospital birth in the U.S. Secondly, you wanted numbers? You got em'.

  • @larbox: numbers - my previous post requested numbers and sources behind those numbers regarding your comment, "women & young teenage girls should go back to using metal coat hangers and dying WITH their unborn fetuses (babies) in their bath tubs?" I was asking for the number of actual documented cases involving coat hangers before Roe v Wade. Also, you did not furnish in your response documented statistics for women who must abort due to their physical life being in jeopardy.

  • @jgehbI couldn't post the numbers last time. Youtube gave me some error but I thought it posted anyway. I'll amend this. Also, I'm blanketing the coat-hanger method with Stats from WHO regarding unsafe abortions as a whole. I only used that example as an extreme but well-known one. The statistics from WHO estimate that 20 million women a year have unsafe abortions, and that 68,000 die from the procedures. Look up unsafe abortions on wikipedia. The article has sourced citations.

  • @larbox Saving a mother's life: According to spuc.org.uk/students/abortion/­mothers (copy and paste into your browser youtube won't let me post links) the number between 1967 and 1990 for abortions conducted to save the mother's life are a pretty low stat: 151 I do not know if this is an international stat or not, though. I haven't read the source material. It's a really low stat, but on the other hand 68,000 women are still dying every year from unsafe, often illegal abortions anyway.

  • From the Associated Press: Last week, Planned Parenthood Federation of America (PPFA) alerted federal authorities to a potential multistate sex trafficking ring. Over a five day period, visitors to Planned Parenthood health centers in six states said they were seeking information from Planned Parenthood about health services Planned Parenthood could provide to underage girls who were part of a sex trafficking ring. (more coming)

  • I am so angry that there are women out there who somehow actually want to have sex and then afterward they force ME to pay for their abortions! If those sluts actually somehow manage to climax somehow, which I am not sure I believe women acctually do, because I've never seen it, they should be punished with a baby so they learn some personal responsibility. I sure as hell won't pay for their pleasures. Thye're dirty and they need to be taught a lesson but not with my money.

  • @PrudishFury I'm not going to go into your anti-abortionist reasoning because it's pretty ridiculous that you seem to think only slutty women get pregnant and want abortions; But rather the fact that you've never seen a woman climax and therefore that makes it a myth is right up there with Sigmund Freud's belief that every man wanted to bone their Mom because he wanted to. With the way you talk about women it's no surprise you don't know how touch one.

  • @SuperHappyPuppy in this case, yeah. i'm saying if it were real, planned parenthood just let a pimp get away with abusing women.

  • @Narnianchick Actually, Planned Parenthood contacted Law Enforcement after they left. I guess you were hoping they would publicly shame them and insist on sewing scarlet letters to their clothes?

  • @MsMirrorMirror where did you read/see/hear that?

  • @Narnianchick Part II, from the Associated Press: Subsequent to alerting U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder, Planned Parenthood learned the identify of one of those involved and believes these visits are likely a hoax by opponents of legal abortion seeking to discredit Planned Parenthood, which delivers preventive health care and abortion services to three million women each year.

  • Planned Parenthood isnt the only place to get abortions.

  • To those supporting this "choice" - you want "reproductive rights"? Then stop forcing your views on taxpayers by supporting the government's collection of taxpayer money to pay for abortions via Planned Parenthood. The government has no business forcing taxpayers to pay for abortion. Keep your "right to choose" out of my wallet! Here we have Planned Parenthood caught red handed ... how can you, the voices of "choice", support such corruption and deceit?

  • @jgehb I agree. Planned parenthood should get de funded now. This coming from a woman!

  • @jgehb Taxpayer dollars don't pay for abortions, you lazy idiot. Heard of the Hyde Amendment? You should have.

  • @SuperHappyPuppy - Planned Parenthood's "fact sheet" for 2009 reports 332,278 abortions in 2009. My tax dollars should not go to an organization that is snuffing out of life, whether those dollars are going directly to the killing of the unborn or not. Get out of murdering the unborn Planned Parenthood.

  • @jgehb What an idiot. 

  • @MsMirrorMirror - ???

  • The question here is why is taxpayer money being given to this outfit? If Planned Parenthood stays open with private funding or with a for profit business model that is one thing, but taking money from people who object to this through taxes is rediculous and defending the use of taxpayer dollars by pretending that Planned Parenthood will go out of business without the taxpayer dollars is pathetic.

  • @worddust Planned Parenthood won't go out of business without taxpayer dollars. It will just be able to provide fewer services to low income people who can't get healthcare elsewhere.

  • ok here's a good question: Why is it up to pro-lifers to do sting operations? Why isn't law enforcement doing their own investigations of these places? They do it all the time with, say, street drugs. What's up?

  • @toddmorrow1 Most likely law enforcement isn't interested because there aren't any actual crimes being committed at Planned Parenthood.

  • @NapoleonicDisorder the proper way to protect these women is to report the pimp so that they can be freed from the sex trade.

  • @Narnianchick I can't believe that pimp is still out there running around and corrupting young girls, introducting them to sex and then forcing them to have sex with all kinds of men for money, probably men who are much much older than they are and maybe thinking of their daughters while they touch their very very young breasts and their pussies which bearly have hair. THIS GUY IS STILL OUT THERE!!

  • @PrudishFury what is the point of this comment?

  • @Narnianchick There's a guy out there EXPLOITING YOUNG GIRLS AND PLANNED PARENTHOOD DOESN'T CARE!!  He needs to be STOPPED!!

  • "We do not want word to get out that we want to exterminate the Negro population" Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood, inspiration for Hitler's German Sterilization law as Nazi Doctor's were inspired by articles in the journal "Birth Control Review" which Sanger started. Planned Parenthood killed 330,000 babies last year with my taxpayer money. If family planning & birth control are private issues pay for it yourselves!

  • @BlackRepublican2010 The Hyde Amendment prevents federal funds from being used to pay for abortion services. Your taxpayer dollars went to pay for birth control, STD screening, cancer screening, and so forth. Not quite as exciting to scream about Pap smears, is it?

  • So..what is the government going to do about this ridiculous situation?  I'm from the Richmond, Va. area so this is extremely disturbing!

  • 'It's Not Planned Parenthood -- No, It's Planned Genocide'

  • @koledy123 You know, the human race seems to be ticking along just fine despite abortion. 7 billion miracles are enough.

  • @SuperHappyPuppy "Be glad of life because it gives you the chance to love and to work and to play and to look up at the stars." Henry Van Dyke

  • @koledy123 Wow, what a load of drivel. Thanks for demonstrating the "deep thoughts" of a typical pro-lifer.

  • @SuperHappyPuppy hey im pro-life and trust me i probably have more deep thoughts in a day than you have in a year

  • @SuperHappyPuppy its people like you who make me want to have alot of kids 

  • @musiciangirl591 I hate to be the one to break this to you, dear, but you have to have lots of sex to have lots of kids. I'm not sure you'll be able to handle that. You appear to be a bit prudish.

  • This organization is pretty depraved.

  • My question to this group is would it be better that these "prostitutes" did not get tested? So they could continually spread infectious diseases? It's confidential between doctors and patients like it is with a priest in confession. If you say that things said between doctors and patients to be unprotected then you have to agree for other things such as confession to be unprotected as well.

    Also, check your spelling. 1:53 "everything" is spelt incorrectly.  Pathetic.

  • @TheKramerkks Like former New York Governor Spitzer, He asked and was willing to pay more for whores who would have sex with him withouts condoms. That's why he need the 10 thousand dollar bank  transfer. These whores were expensive. The transfer was picked up by homeland security as "terror activity." So maybe the johns assume the risk.

  • @TheKramerkks You seem to know a lot about it. As far as I know there is no federal or state law protecting confessions to a priest. So be careful in what you say at confession. Maybe the priest will rat you out.

  • @TheKramerkks Confidentiality of doctor and patient. Not "manager of sex workers' talking about his ho's. This here video is analogous to your boss, going to the doctors receptionist and talking about all your sexually transmitted diseases. That don't sound confidential to me.

  • HIPAA does not only protect doctor patient confidentiality. HIPAA was designed to protect your health care information from being disseminated without your express consent. Furthermore, it takes much more than just hearsay to start an investigation with CPS. I don't feel the counselor was in the wrong. She gave accurate information on STDs, services offered, & judicial bypass. Also, tax dollars aren't used for abortions. Contraception and healthcare are funded via taxes.

  • maybe people should take better precautions on not getting pregnant instead of killing unborn babies!

  • For more info, google: Behind The Assault On Planned Parenthood - Huffington Post

    (sorry, I can't post the direct link, youtube doesn't allow posting a direct URL links)

  • Beautiful Lila Rose. A pretty face... uses deceit to manipulate and take information out of context in order to support her self proclaimed cause. Planned Parenthood provides much needed services to those who do not have medical insurance or a private health care provider. Of all the services that PP provides, only 2% is related to abortion.

    It's obvious that this video has been drastically edited. A good con artist can make people see and believe whatever the con wants them to believe.

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  • Vague statements such as "we kinda manage" does not imply that the man in the office is a pimp. Furthermore, HIPAA laws protect patients who come in to any medical facility for health care. If one of the 14-15 year olds had come in to the office and told the employee that she was being forced to provide sex services, then it would be appropriate to call the proper authorities. Hearsay is not appropriate grounds for notifying CPS or the police. HIPAA violations cost facilities thousands.

  • @noel1asn CPS pretty much operates solely on hearsay.

  • @noel1asn I thought HIPAA protected doctor patient confidentialities. So it's ethical for a guy to talk about the "medical needs" of third persons, young girls,described as illegal aliens, to facilitate abortions on the taxpayer dime. Why do you think the counselor here was later dismissed?

  • @TrueNovice Planned Parenthood has specifically not used federal funding for abortions. Before you judge get the facts correct. 

  • @TheKramerkks If money is not used directly to pay for abortions it could be used to pay the planned parenthood electric bill or any other support services. Money is pretty fungible.

  • @TheKramerkks Actually it all goes to the same pot to let them expand with there 63 million dollars in profit each year.

  • So again I have to ask which would you (the accuser) do.

    1. Deny them medical help? Which would be unethical.

    2. Detain them against their will? Which would be illegal.

    3. Call the police in while they were still in the office? Witch very well could have cause danger to the other patients. Of course all of these are not the jobs of Nurses and Doctors. The only reason you don't answer this is because you can't while still arguing that PP was in the wrong.

  • Thank you for exposing this corrupt, sick organization. Planned Parenthood needs to be cut from ALL funding from taxpayers.

  • This is not a big deal. That worked did what she should have done. She is concerned about those women and was hoping to be able to make sure they were healthy. It is not her place to bust up the prostitution ring it IS her place to look after the health of those women. If she had chastized him and sent him out of the room he could have beaten the woman with him and never sought health care for any others. You conservatives are all the same and judge without having any knowledge.

  • This isn't about pro life or choice. This is about Human Slavery.

    Forced Labor is most prevalent in five sectors of the US economy ::: Prostitution and sex services (46%); domestic service (27%); agriculture (10%); sweatshop/factory work (5%); and restaurant and hotel work (4 %).

    Half of the victims of Human Trafficking are children. Children are Victims. And we got choices to act. When reality is SLAVES DON'T have choices.

    Check out SLAVERYMAP. Slavery IS IN your backyard.

  • I still support planned parenthood and choice mainly because of all the people who work for the pro life side. I would be more on their side if they were not all bigoted and hated gays amoung promoting spirituality that is not life loving or even spiritual. I choose our ancient pagan gods and these people would hate me.

  • @theindigonation

    You are ignorant and bigoted for saying that. What a hypocrite.

  • @vmcnick that doesn't matter to me call me what you will. I am just standing up for truth.

  • @theindigonation

    Congratulations, you are the exact same person you claim to be fighting against.

    Then again, I shouldnt expect any more from a youtube poster.

  • If you want the FULL footage of this investigation without edits go to the link in bottom left corner of video

  • I promise you they aren't edited or doctored man. There's edits to make the video look good and take out parts where the conversation digresses or gets boring. They're not trying to frame planned parenthood. Planned Parenthood exposed themselves. And If LiveAction has only caught PP in the action a few times, how many other clinics all across the country are doing and have been doing this same thing? It's baffling and we cannot ignore this. Even PP hasn't denied the truth of these videos

  • It's just not real. There is no harem to rescue the non-existent girls from. The characterization of a pimp & his harem doesn’t match with anything on the tape or with the reality of the prostitution industry outside of Las Vegas brothels, Old Westerns or 1001 Arabian Nights. He first said he & the girl in the room are involved in "sex work" (the counselor seems to take this to indicate something like a strip club, she mentions one they serve)

  • @Sonofman1231 Even if it wasn't prostitution, any and ALL "sex work" by a minor is illegal.

  • Then the tape skips ahead 80 secs before he mentions ages. Seems strange to me what was said there? Did they indicate they know of underage sex workers rather than saying they employ them? There are a number of things which could be said in that time which completely change the conversation & the counselor's take on it. Later in the tape there are short edits in odd places.

  • We have to assume they took those segments out because they didn't support the narrative they were trying to put forth. Either way, the truth is elusive given what we are being presented. Hopefully the FBI will figure it out & anyone acting inappropriately will lose their jobs &/or face criminal charges if they did not report suspected abuse. There are laws for that which cover medical professionals. HIPAA privacy does not cover confidentiality when it comes to suspected abuse.

  • Even if there are pimps in our country with a house full of kids they sell for sex, I think we can assume they are not going to PP or the local health department for assistance & support any sooner than they would call police for a John that stiffed them, it would be too risky & assistance & helpfulness is not what one would expect.

  • That's one of the reasons the video is so shocking at face value, because we don't expect them to offer assistance when it comes to childhood sex slaves. I think they, the PP personnel, have to know that too. I mean aren't they wondering what is up with someone who comes in & says these things? Do we really think they are that dumb? The whole idea is ludicrous & the staff at these locations saw it as such...

  • @Minxcomix Nothing was "exposed". The tapes are doctored as usual. Why do all LiveAction movies always leave out the context. Before the "pimp" mentions the age of any girls there is missing footage, anything could have been said there including that he only knew of underage girls in the business rather than they work for him which would change the situation a bit. Whatever though... anyone that is ready to make a decision on this footage is obviously not interested in determining the truth.

  • @Sonofman1231 LiveAction has made readily available a link which shows the full unedited footage. You will see a button on the video which will direct you to it. How easy Live Action makes it for you to see it. You are more then welcome to watch it if you choose to be fully informed. This is the footage which was sent to the FBI.

  • @Minxcomix Oh, well if they say it's what they sent to the FBI then I'll know it's unedited! These guys never lie.

  • PP liars. Here's hoping ALL their federal money disappears!!

  • Planned Parenthood is a vile and sick bunch of baby killers. You should search on youtube for "DA speaks about abortionist charged with murder- Graphic".

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  • @dryanmorr That is totally false. I encourage you to go look it up because it's the complete reverse way around.

    Regardless of what states have laws on it or not, these video from liveactionfilms clearly show that it is happening anyways. Under the table. And they encourage and aid human sex trafficking

  • @Jimb0can How can you say that this is edited?? It clearly is not. No one is making anything up. This is reality. Planned Parenthood is taking advantage of women and I don't want my taxpayer dollars going to sex trafficking. Why should I be forced to pay for that?

  • @The10FingeredMan How can he say it is edited? What are you smoking? The tape counters clearly indicate editing and that is just what they allowed us to see as editing. Tax dollars to sex trafficking? Wow, you really know how to boil an issue down to it's lowest possible lie. If everything in life were as simple as you think, our decisions would be easy, but the world is not black and white.

  • This is edited by right wing facists. They love to make shit up. Remember Acorn anyone? The only thing these conservatives care about is their agenda. They make up lies and this people is called slander.

  • Live Action can't answer my questions because they know that it only goes to defuse their little hoax. Oh and surprise, surprise the political masters are trying to get planned parenthood's funding cut. Their reasoning If it worked on Acorn it'll work here. Silly just plain silly. Your doing more harm to poor people for your right wing corporate masters agenda.

  • That guy is a good actor. He was totally believable

  • So again I have to ask which would you (the accuser) do.

    1. Deny them medical help? Which would be unethical.

    2. Detain them against their will? Which would be illegal.

    3. Call the police in while they were still in the office? Witch very well could have cause danger to the other patients. Of course all of these are not the jobs of Nurses and Doctors. The only reason you don't answer this is because you can't while still arguing that PP was in the wrong.

  • @Richardisdorky Actually, it is not unethical to deny them medical help in this context. What they should have done was to call the cops to arrest the "pimp", and call child welfare authorities to take care of the underage kids. They really should have known better. It took a great deal of courage for the undercover actors to do what they did. 

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  • @Nonamearisto Please explain the ethical code you base this on. In what context is it ever justified to deny someone medical treatment or advice? So you would go with answer three call the police, and hope that no one is injured in the likely waylay that the "pimp" would start give that would have been a violation of trust from the medical staff. As for the hoaxers courage, well how we're the courageous? How did they display courage? I see nothing courageous about their this childish hoax.

  • @Nonamearisto By that logic it is ethical for a priest to go call the police on someone that has just confessed to them, which is probably against what you believe. You can't just pick and choose what is ethical and what isn't. As for the actors, their behavior was actually rather childish by exploiting a worker whose job it is to look out for the health of these people and is restricted by doctor-patient confidentiality in terms of wrong-doing.

  • This video is doctored. See the real version at: /watch?v=o5nL2j2B9W0

    In addition, Planned Parenthood made sure to contact the authorities, contrary to the right-wing propaganda.

  • planned parenthood did nothing wrong as far as I can see.

  • In order to report child abuse you must have an intended victim. In order to do so one of the sex workers would have to say "I am a sex worker, I am sleeping with men over the age of 18, and I don't like it/ don't want to do it" and she would have to be 14 or younger. That is a child abuse that can be reported. You can't call CPS and say "I think a pimp might be looking for medical services for his underage girls go investigate him" they will laugh at you.

  • @SocialJustice84

    So you are suggesting that they should do the sting with real underage pregnant sex workers?

    Also, the sex slave doesn't have to say "I am a sex worker, I am sleeping with men over the age of 18, and I don't like it/ don't want to do it"

    If a health care professional suspects it, they are required to report it, buy law. 

  • and on a side note....how many of you pro-lifer anti-abortion types eat eggs? because you do know that eggs are the same as an aborted fetus..the egg gets fertilized then lain then before it can be incubated until term it is taken away.

  • @vampireeyes00 Ummm....really? So, I guess, according to that line of thinking, those who consume full-grown chickens should advocate murder of humans? That is sooooo not the same thing! And I am a vegan, by the way, and yet I know humans and animals are not the same! And eggs and unborn babies are not the same!

  • or what if you get pregnant and your doctors tell you that because of complications or that your uterus is in the wrong position having this child may kill you....would you then take the chance of dying in childbirth just so your unborn child can have a life with out a mother? or would you save your family the heartache of losing a wife or daughter?

  • so my question for all of you anti-abortion prolifers.....what about women who are brutally raped and get pregnant from that? do they not have a right to abort a child from something so painful? because really who would want to live with that memory facing you everyday and how would you explain that to your child of said misfortune?

  • @vampireeyes00 Less than 1% of all abortions in this country are from rape....the other 1 million are for other reasons, mostly, not ready for a child, too young, etc.

  • @vampireeyes00

    The religious backed Republicans are trying to do a runaround on that by passing a law that would call rape victims 'Accusers' until the person that raped them is found guilty. Because the current law states that only a rape 'Victim' can get an abortion that occurred from a rape, and by the time the raper is found guilty, it would be too late to get an abortion.

  • If PP wants to cover up child sexual abuse they should learn fronm the experts...the Catholic Church!

  • yes. how dare planned parenthood provide medical care to vulnerable populations. how dare they use medical confidentiality laws to protect their patients. how dare they provide birth control, counseling, hiv testing, and gyno visits to men and women regardless of immigration, financial, sex status. what an awful awful thing... let women live in peace live action!

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  • @Richardisdorky "Witch" is a witch, like Halloween..."which" is the word you are looking for.

  • @JenniferPvlsh Thank for pointing out my spelling error, it is some much more important then the message.

  • @Richardisdorky Well, I am kinda joking with you about the spelling....but I honestly must say.... One need not support cradle-to-grave entitlements in order to say abortion - which brutally murders a child (watch Silent Scream if you doubt the horror) should be outlawed. One thing does not justify another; it is like saying because there are starving people we should allow shoplifting of food....yes, it sucks that people starve, but that does not negate the wrongness of theft.

  • @JenniferPvlsh Well as fair as your point is the issue of abortion isn't really the issue I've been trying to address. My question have all been a matter of the ethics and morality purposed by this hoax. Being a man I know that I really don't have a say on the matter of abortion and try and take an objective view when it comes to that issue. Which is a obvious oversight of Live Action. They are of course a very polarized group,and have made a it a mission to only serve their own interests.

  • @JenniferPvlsh As for your cradle to the grave entitlements. So how many people should starve to death in our great nation of freedom so that a few can pay less taxes. How many should go uneducated so that a few can go to private schools. How many should live in abject poverty so that a few can save a few bucks on there car payments. The ideology of the personal gain over the common good is unnatural. You want to here of horror. Today ten people will dead in the U.S. from starvation.

  • @JenniferPvlsh Saying it sucks that people starve is a understatement. It one of the most pointless waist of life. Given that twenty five people die every hour from heath problems involving eating to much. his is not personal freedom Vs. "entitlements". This is a true moral test. How many death by starvation is an acceptable number? Where are your morals? And yes if you"re starving to death you should get a walk on shoplifting. If starving is not that big of a problem try it? I have, it sucks

  • @Richardisdorky Yeah, I am not saying people who steal because they are starving should go to jail....I am saying that we should not, as a society, legalize theft for arbitrary reasons; and we should not, as a society, condone abortion just because of arbitrary reasons either. I also never said starving was no big deal. We need to have laws that protect the most vulnerable in a society....I have no problem with that. That means the poor, the sick, the hungry....and it also includes the unborn.

  • @JenniferPvlsh So you have no problem with your so called entitlements. You just want to add one to it. That being that the zygote has the same rights as the child in a bad public school who needs a education so that they can have a successful life. Well I don't know if I can agree with that. I think that groups like PP which have the main goal of providing heath care, and teaching safe sex should not be a point of ridicule simply because the give the unsavory choice of abortion.

  • @Richardisdorky But then when do we care about the kid who is struggling in school? He is nothing more than a zygote who had a bit more time. From the moment of conception until our late teens, we are growing and changing. So, at what point do we determine, "This person counts, not that one"? Month 2? Month 9? Birth? Viability? Age three? And I have to say PP is about making money and that is it. They are "for profit" organization and the largest abortion provider in the world.

  • @JenniferPvlsh Yes they are a for profit organization. So are most of the Hospitals in this country what does that have to do with anything? Oh I know nothing.So like I said imperfect world. As for when is it a person. Well I can't say and I don't really have to. I'm a man and this is not my choice. Like is said not a perfect world. Of course this is all pointless. As the old saying goes the genie is out of the bottle. The world is in a constant state of flux.

  • @Richardisdorky Well, Richard, I gotta go to bed! it has been great debating with ya and I think we could both go on like this for days! Take care!

  • @JenniferPvlsh Truly was. I receipt your candor even when you are wrong. Good night too you as well Jennifer. Remember as far as I'm concerned you can have the right to do what ever you want with your body.

  • @Richardisdorky Thanks and p.s. I was never wrong...lol....

  • @JenniferPvlsh A choice that would be negated by teaching birth control methods and safe sex to our children. I can agree that it would be great if we didn't have to have the option of abortion, because there weren't any unwanted pregnancies or pregnancies that could kill the mother. Sadly this is a imperfect world so we need a imperfect solution. So would you agree that until we have a perfect world that we have to do the best we can with what we have? It's all imperfect in the end.

  • @JenniferPvlsh Now these will be my last question. Are you a woman? If not. The reproduction rights of women is not yours to dismiss. If you are then your opinions on the matter only apply to your life. It is a slippery slope, when you take away the medical rights of women on the issue of abortion how long before women are not aloud to the choice of getting pregnant in the first place? How long before the force breeding begins? These are all things that have happened before. Slippery slope.

  • @Richardisdorky Yes, I am a woman! And abortion only became legal in 1973, until then people were not being denied their right to have kids or not get pregnant or anything. And I really think you or any other guy has just as much right to say something about this. But, yes, to answer your question, I am female :o)

  • @JenniferPvlsh You missed my point. There was a time in this country where a woman was owned by her husband. In that time if a man wanted a child the woman had no choice. Fortunately that time has past. With the attitude of most anti-abortion idealist this is a very bad thing to regress on. You have rights that you wouldn't have had 40, 80, or 100+ years ago. Do you really want to temp those that would take them all away by giving up this one? I know I wouldn't.

  • This is not journalism the is special pleading. They only want to discredit Planned Parenthood because they do abortion. Sorry to break it to you folk, but abortion is legal, and fully supported by federal. I know it sucks if you don't like the idea of abortion. Well then don't have one problem solved.

  • You have still not managed to meet the burden of proof that a crime was committed. You are simply targeting them because you are anti-abortion, If you really cared about the underage sex trafficking you'd go after the pimps. This a case of bias smear tactics and that's all

  • Thank-you for doing the work the dinosaur media won't. They turn a blind eye to corruption. They are the enablers.

  • @heyitsmejc Wow. For a nationwide organization, that's a pretty harsh statement.

  • I've got to keep asking, what should they have done. No one has really answered

    1. Deny them medical help? Witch would be unethical.

    2. Detain them against their will? Witch would be illegal.

    3. Call the police in while they were still in the office? Witch very well could have cause danger to the other patients. Of all of these are NOT the jobs of Nurses and Doctors. The only reason you don't answer this is because you can't while still arguing that PP was in the wrong.

  • You guys are stretching this by leaps and bounds. I get it, though.

    The "pimp" and "prostitute" need to get paid, too! Live Action will deliver!

    The stupidity in the country frightens me.

  • PP says that they are "committed to high quality reproductive health care"

    That's like a junk yard saying they are "restoration specialist"

  • Anybody that believes ANYTHING from an Anti-Choice group don't deserve to be taken seriously. This has already been debunked as nothing but a fabrication to discredit an organization that helps women. I hope whoever did this 'sting' gets sued for slander.

  • @Jarock316 I could say the exact same thing about Pro-Choice people too.

  • @KradEelav

    Pro-Choice people don't need to fabricate evidence nor rely on outdated religious dogma to justify their actions. Pro-Life(Barf) are not about life, they're about controlling women. Look at how many Pro-Life(Barf) groups are deeply rooted in religion(mostly Christianity) that says a women should have no rights and be sub-servant to her husband.

  • @Jarock316 In the words of the late George Carlin. "Their pro-life until your born then they couldn't give a fuck about your life after that."

  • @Richardisdorky It is "they're", not "their". And yeah, sure, pro-life people really don't care about others.....you are basing that fact on what, exactly? What a comedian said???

  • @JenniferPvlsh The demand from the same people that we raise the retirement age, remove SSI, Privatize most if not all public care, the desire to end welfare, cutting funding to public schools while giving tax brakes to private ones, it's a long list. All things that most pro-lifers vote for as well as anti abortion. No matter how much my grammar or spelling may be my point is no less valid. Any more pointless observations about my spelling or do you have a real answer to the question I posed?

  • @Richardisdorky

    Another quote be Carlin that includes your list. 'When you're pre-born your fine, when you're pre-school your fucked'.

  • @Jarock316 So the right of a woman to have an abortion is more important that the baby's right to be born? There is nobody trying to say women HAVE to get pregnant; that would, undoubtedly, be controlling. However, once pregnant, the right of a child to be born is more important than the woman's right to choose. If I smoke, and I light up on a plane, YOUR right to breathe clean air trumps MY right to do what I want with my body; not a great analogy, I know!!

  • @JenniferPvlsh

    A baby isn't a baby until it takes its first breath. Until then, it's a fetus and has no rights. What about the woman that dying because of her pregnancy? Would you rather have her die just to keep her baby still alive and without a mother? And I suppose you support bans on birth control just because it goes against nature. And the last thing you mention has no bearing on the topic at hand, nice try on the deflection of the issue being discussed.

  • @Jarock316 A baby magically becomes a baby when it is born? Wait, how about in the birth canal? What if it is going to aborted and then is born prematurely the next day-baby or no? You're the expert! Oh, and I guess you are too illiterate to understand an ANALOGY when you see one! Blah, blah. Debating you is like debating my dog, only much easier! Yes, women die every day because of the terminal disease of pregnancy-what a smokescreen. The million abortions/year are all due to medical reasons!

  • Why do so many on the left hate babies?

    Abortion is so mean.

  • @InternetDisciple What are you talking about?

  • @pumpkinpjays

    When I asked why it was so that so many on the left hate babies, what I wanted to know was why so many on the left hates babies.

    Let me know if you still don't understand.

  • @InternetDisciple I see. I guess I think it's a stretch to believe that 50% of the American population, or "the left", as you refer to them, hates babies. That's also inconsistent with the ballooning population in this country.

    "Abortion is so mean." There's the more interesting statement.

  • @pumpkinpjays

    "I guess it's a stretch to believe that 50% of the American population, or "the left", as you refer to them, hate babies."

    I did not say that all the left hates babies. I asked why so many on the left hate babies.

    Let me know if you still don't understand the difference.

  • @InternetDisciple Well, I think it's a lot like somebody asking, "Why do so many on the right hate women?" Would that statement make any sense to you? Of course not. I sure hope not, anyway.

    This country's getting attacked by enough people; I'd like to believe that, while Americans may have our differing opinions, the majority of us would choose not to attack each other or to make such vast generalizations.

  • @pumpkinpjays

    "Well, I think it's a lot like somebody asking..."

    Really? How many on the right are murdering women in murder mills like so many on the left is murdering babies in abortion mills?

    (Nice red herring. I can see that you don't want to defend the hatred of babies by so many on the left.)