@soulman35 A smiley face doesn't help me to believe you. I find it difficult to understand how you can listen to her story and still be puzzled as to what you would do. "I think it helps to remember that God is good, and God is in control, rather than believing that we are just subject to chance." It may help you but that doesn't give you the right to sacrifice a child's health because you're afraid of living in an uncertain world. Everybody is. You're not special in that regard.
@Smithpolly My smile is sincere. If you were sitting here you would see my sincerity. You have very strong opinions about this it sounds like and evidently you feel like one particular method is the best. Liz does admit that people don't always have a good outcome of that condition even in hospitals. My point is that that one road is not infallible. I wanted to get you to consider that. But yes, absolutely, I would want to see it healed one way or another. So yes I am genuine.
@soulman35 So your objection to bringing her to the hospital in this case is solely because you don't think modern medicine is advanced enough to treat this particular condition? In which case, I assume if you were the parent of Robyn Twitchell, you would have brought him to hospital straight away.
@Smithpolly I would not have had an objection if the parents had chosen to bring the child to the hospital. You asked what I would have done. I answered it is hard to say because I wasn't there and Christian has worked well for me. One has to be ready to have a fair conversation. And at some point to agree to disagree and wish each other well. I wish you well. I wished Liz well. She wished me well. It seems that you want it to be one way. I see more than 1 way. Can you wish me well?
@soulman35 The day you can wish Robyn Twitchell alive again is the day I can wish you well? All I ask is that when you tell people your quirky heartwarming story about your burnt hand, you tell his story, too. He can't tell it for himself.
@Smithpolly Somehow you seem to want me to be able to control what other people do or have done, and it's just not within the scope of my abilities. I live my own life, share my own stories, love people and love healing, and love what Christian Science has done for me, how I have helped others with it. I take things on a case by case. I don't judge, I do my best. Try to be a good and fair person. Not everyone thinks that is good enough, but it's the best I can do. Good night.
@Smithpolly We agree there. It is tragic. I just don't see the value of taking only the tragedies of any genre of healing, be it material medicine or any other form of healing, and seeking to invalidate all the good that has been accomplished by those methods. It's not constructive to me. Let's take what has worked, hold fast to that, build on that, compare notes, and work together to build a perfect principle of healing. The world needs that in my opinion. I think it's possible.
@soulman35 I'm not asking that you only take the tragedies. I am, however, asking that you do take them. You say "Let's take what has worked, hold fast to that". For Robyn Twitchell, taking him to a hospital for treatment would have worked. The Christian science method killed him. And just because you don't find his story "constructive to me" doesn't make it any less true or any less worthy of being told.
@Smithpolly His story may be instructive to some people, and you are definitely out there telling it. I will continue to tell my own story which is my right to tell. My experience is my own. Christian Science saved my life 20 years ago, and it has made me all the more patriotic that I have the right to study it in this country and talk about how it helps me. I respect your right to express your opinion. I have my own relationship with these teachings. That's how it's going to stay.
@soulman35 You say you study Christian Science. Robyn Twitchell is part of that story. And he deserves better than to be swept under the carpet like some dirty little secret.
@Smithpolly Here's my final analysis of this conversation. My opinion is that you are angry and misguided, though you do care about children. You think I am misguided and irresponsible. We will have to leave it at that, because I can't spend any more time on this particular conversation with you. I hope you have a peaceful holiday.
@soulman35 You're right. Robyn Twitchell does not make for a pleasant conversation and we must never think unpleasant thoughts, must we? So Robyn Twitchell must be forgotten and hidden away. Time to go back to your happy place now.
@Smithpolly Probably what I should have said is "Fair enough" you know what you would have done in the situation. But then it leaves the question unanswered - what would happen if that didn't work, you see? It is good that you feel confident in what you believe. But we have different experiences and consequently different approaches. Can we agree to disagree? Liz and I hugged at the end of our conversation. She hugged me tight. This should be about love and having real conversation.
@soulman35 Robyn Twitchell died of a peritonitis caused by a bowel obstruction that medical professionals declared would have been easily correctable. Would you have brought him to a hospital or would you have let him die?
@Smithpolly If I myself or a loved one were facing anything that wasn't healed fast, I would find out what was wrong one way or another and talk things over with the doctor and work out a course of healing that would both bring the best relief, and carry the best odds of a complete healing. I have done this in certain cases. And it has worked and the doctors were always respectful and worked with me. But I have to go. Best wishes to you.
I am watching it, but I am already familiar with her story, in fact I talked to her one on one a couple of years ago in Boston. She is a really cool lady. I felt her sincerity when I was talking to her, and her opinions are understandable based on her experience. She was very respectful towards me. My experience has been completely different. It's not my place to say what people should or should not do for themselves or their kids. I say do whatever relieves suffering. CS works for me.
@soulman35 I'm not asking you to tell other people what they should or should not do for themselves or their kids. I simply asking what you would do as the parent in this situation?
Most folks really don't know the difference. Especially the guy who chose Scientology "because he is more interested in metaphysics". CS is metaphysics at it's finest. Scientology is strange and cult-ish. I've had experience... But there is no need to have heated argument about either persuasion, they are both peaceful and generally harmless :)
Most folks really don't know the difference. Especially the guy who chose Scientology "because he is more interested in metaphysics". CS is metaphysics at it's finest. Scientology is strange and cult-ish. I've had experience... But there is no need to have heated argument about either persuasion, they are both peaceful and generally harmless :)
do you know the difference? Why are you even asking this question, and what does your video mean. Christian Science is SO SO SO VERY different from Scientology.
You might as well be walking around like an idiot asking people, Baptist or Jew?
Pepsi or Green tea...
Do something with your time that is worth wile instead of making these retarded videos.
These videos crack me up, and the guy is fun and funny. I am a Christian Scientist. I can have an aspirin if I want one, but I don't need one. I can't even remember the last time I had a headache. However, several years ago I burned my hand and couldn't stand the pain after a few hours. I called a Christian Science practitioner, and in within five minutes the pain was gone. Skin healed up in 3 days. True story.
@Smithpolly Probably have it set, and then heal it with Christian Science. But why is it always a broken leg! lol I have had some pretty gnarly wipe outs skating and skiing and have come out pretty unscathed. I like to think that my prayers which affirm my substance to be spiritual rather than material, help to protect me and perhaps even prevent accidents. I think it helps to remember that God is good, and God is in control, rather than believing that we are just subject to chance.
@Smithpolly You might not have to. It's hard to say what you would do in a situation. I know where my understanding is for the most part. If it didn't snap back into place, knowing myself, I would have it put back and rely as much as possible on metaphysics because it has worked for me for 20 years with lots of healings. The main thing for me would be overcoming fear in a situation like that. But that's just me. Who knows what someone else might do. Whatever works.
@Smithpolly I am watching it, but I am already familiar with her story, in fact I talked to her one on one a couple of years ago in Boston. She is a really cool lady. I felt her sincerity when I was talking to her, and her opinions are understandable based on her experience. She was very respectful towards me. My experience has been completely different. It's not my place to say what people should or should not do for themselves or their kids. I say do whatever relieves suffering. CS work 4 me.
@soulman35 I don't know what I would have done. I wasn't in the situation. I don't judge Liz, and I don't judge her parents. I know from my own experience that Christian Science heals. I have seen both sides of this issue being the only CS in my family. I have lost loved ones under very difficult circumstances who suffered greatly under conventional treatment. Everyone is doing their best. The issue is deeper than what is often presented. We should all be seeking a perfect way to heal
@millball you need to research a little more. it's only a certain group inside christian science that makes them appear as a cult. get your facts right.
@emmacita2009 Scientologists reckon people are eternal. That attribute is only to God. AntiChrist Science according to some frail sickly woman, whom God with his abundant grace, managed to become well again came up with the heretical absurdies such as reality is just an illusion, sin is only a state of the mind but to mention a few. I know my facts Emma; I wouldn't state without them. Reality is real. Man is actually sinful. Jesus is Holy and died so that sinners could enter heaven! amen!
This video just shows how ignorant people are to the workings of certain religions, and how these beliefs have caused suffering and death to many of its followers.
@MorbidRomantic666 It would be more intelligent to research both of these religions before you start criticizing either one. More individuals die from medical treatment EVERY day than have died being treated by Christian Science. Please don't insult something you don't know about.
@albelle25 First of all, I know quite a bit about both religions; especially Scientology. And, yes, I'm certain more people die in the care of licensed physicians than through treatment by Christian Science. However, that is because most people are rational enough to seek medical science for treatment than faith healing. And I'm certain, statically, you would find a higher percentage of people recovering through medical treatment than with simple faith healing.
I've learned a great deal from studying Christian Science as presented by Mary Baker Eddy, even attribute to it the spiritual healing I've experienced, but I probably could find something helpful in the study of Scientology too. Come to think of it, I've also learned from science, music, history....
Fascinating poll ~ Thanks for putting this out there. Christian Science as taught by Mary Baker Eddy (Mother of modern Metaphysics) came to my attention long after the docs had given up the case. Thank God for healing alternatives!
"'Science and Health* [Mrs. Eddy's magnum opus] is beyond this generation's understanding. It is the _pure_ science. And, to think that a woman knew this over eighty years ago!'" ~ Albert Einstein
*See TheSecretCoop Channel for the S&H 700 Project ~ Cheers!
the 'science' of Christian science is believing Faggot jesus will instantly heal them. My god, what a curse on their rational mind it is. The fact that some christians do get rich preaching the tripe of Christianity is simply proof Jesus is 1) real 2) the devil There's a couple people at the top of Christianity who get rich off the fools, while spreading this 'kill me, fuck me' satanic religion. A giant pyramind was erected on her birthplace in 1921 because she was a Freemason
What is it that is missing in Scientology that you seem to believe Christian Science has the answer for? What is it in Scientology that erks you the most?
@madhackrviper How many religious groups label 'metaphysics' as a part of their belief system; you seem to know a lot about this subject, I look forward to your informative answer.
So if somebody has a messed up hip instead of getting a biocompatible hip implant we should just pray to christian science and jesus that all the pain will go again and the person doesn't have an immensely painful ever deteriorating joint? Maybe the celebrities should start praying that their ferrari's will get fixed by God instead of taking them in for a tune up.
Wow. How empirical? You could get a similar response by asking the question "Intestate or nonstarter?" People like this show their hate very well, while trying to prove someone else as a hater.
Christian's are not good people, They delude themselves and others, and raise their children on fear. Christians are cowardly humans with no respect for Gods creation. They piss all over it with lies and manipulation. Just wait and see the replies to this post. Watch the loonies weigh in.
Scientology! we have phyiscal proof about how the world works, DNA testing, medicine . . . everything the human race needs! what we dont need is to "believe" in a book! a book can be written by anyone! for all we know . . . someone could have gotten bored many years ago and decided to right this book and call it "The Bible"!
@alexmigda you should study up a little more about it before you say that. It's the science behind what Jesus was able to accomplish. that's basically it in a nutshell
They are two complete opposite things. Christian is a very well respected Religion. It teaches about Jesus, the way He heals and all about Metaphysics. I could go on & on, bit space here is limited. To know more, got to a Christian Science Church or Reading Room. You can also go online to spirituality . com
I'm not a Christian Scientist but I've heard only good things about it. A few comments here claim that CS has "killed" people which I find hard to believe, especially the one that said he/she lost 5 loved ones because of CS. In fact, I've lost many more family and friends while under standard medical care. Every year, more than 300,000 people in the US alone DIE from drug side effects, not counting other medical procedures which pushes that annual figure even higher, and nobody seems to care!
edwong very good reply! It is ignorant to say CS has "killed' people since CS uses not matirial means of healing,does not touch patients, prescribes no special foods or drinks.
Noone has ever died or has ever been killed by CS! It is impossible!!!!!
@Jame243 Thanks for your input. Can't say the same about the ignorant idiot who gave me a thumbs down. I guess they can't bear the truth! I have lost 3 relatives to cancer while they were undertaking MEDICAL TREATMENT and I'm not ranting about how ineffective chemotherapy and radiation are, but I know where NOT to look if in the very unlikely event I ever developed that condition. Thanks again. and to our GOOD HEALTH!
My good friend edwong3 thank you for your good reply; CS is a practical Spiritual Science and it has been demostrated countless times if the rules of Spiritual Mind healing are applied and strictly adhered too!!!!!!
I have applied to myself and I have been healed always. Jesus said :Your Faith has saved you! Jesus was a Spiritual Scientist. CS explains what is this Faith that saves and heals so you can undestand it now and go and practice it on yourself and help others also.
@edwong3 Well, god sure is doing a bang up job of helping his devout followers! I am sorry for you loss, and I hope that science advances far enough that people will not resort to talking to themselves to heal their various ailments.
@edwong3 That is true Ed. In fact one study shows the the number one killer in the Unites States are medical facilities, medications, surgeries on people that don't need them and side effects from prescribed medications. That is statistical fact. Yet medical facilities that do not attribute anything to God aren't vilified. Its also ironic that the medical symbol happens to be a serpent coiled around a staff. We are told time and again in the Bible that the serpent was a liar.
@DocHymes Really? The "number one killer" is a whole list of things? (snicker) Medical errors account for more deaths than heart disease? Complications of diabetes? Smoking? Various cancers? I didn't know that.
I'll be honest, if modern medicine hurt more people than it helped, it wouldn't be utilized to the degree that it is. And it sure as hell works better than prayer.
@rmcdaniel423 "I didn't know that"..... Ignorance is bliss .. isn't it .. ~ and ~
"if modern medicine hurt more people than it helped, it wouldn't be utilized to the degree that it is. ..And it sure as hell works better than prayer." Really ? tell that to the physicians who usually say "there is nothing more we could do for him" and to the taxpayer who is now footing the bill for this colossal slave trade legislation. Point being the body will be dust in a few decades ever heard of faith ?
The significance of the serpent has been interpreted in many ways; sometimes the shedding of skin and renewal is emphasized as symbolizing rejuvenation, while other assessments center on the serpent as a symbol that unites and expresses the dual nature of the work of the physician, who deals with life and death, sickness and health. Products deriving from the bodies of snakes were known to have medicinal properties in ancient times.
@edwong3 wrote " I'm not a Christian Scientist but I've heard only good things about it."
Here's a little anecdote. Nothing definitive - just one case. My neighbors were CS when I was in high school. One year, there was a small epidemic of pink eye (conjunctivitis) in the school. Neighbor girl got it. It is simply treated with antibiotics. But, left untreated and only prayed for, it can lead to ocular damage or even blindness. She had to beg my sister to share her meds and keep it secret. Sad.
@rmcdaniel423 Life has taught me that healing can only come from within oneself. Now there are "catalysts" that can help to initiate the body's healing process such as a medicine or medical procedure, an herbal remedy, a homeopathic preparation, massage therapy, correct diet, surgery, psychotherapy, and PRAYER. Worst conditions than pink eye have been overcome without medicine through other means other than antibiotics, but if that is what is available then use it with the faith it will help.
@edwong3 The fact that antibiotics kill bacteria is not a matter of "faith".
I believe that prayer may have meditative effects that are beneficial to the healing process. I believe that is no different than non-prayer meditation/relaxation. I also believe the double blind scientific studies that show prayer is equal to random luck and coincidence driven by other circumstances. My problem is with the few people who deny methods known to work, relying only on "faith". Especially with kids.
@rmcdaniel423 I'm not arguing that antibiotics don't kill bacteria. It's just that you may not realize it can have it's negative effects too. People have died taking antibiotics or have had at least some allergic reaction to it. I for one am allergic to Penicillin and some other types of antibiotics, but I NEVER GET AN INFECTION anyway! In reality I don't believe much in prayer as taught by religion, but rather in scientific application of prayer with modern energy psychology methodologies.
@edwong3 By coincidence, I happen to work in the medical field. I do know there are risks involved. The risks are outweighed by the potential benefit. Just ask a third world country that is lacking in modern medicine, where simple infections kill children all the time.
I also know enough about physiology to call your claim of "never get an infection" false. All people are infected all the time. Your body just usually fights it off naturally, so you never notice.
@rmcdaniel423 Well good for you if you work in the medical field! I'm not debating the value of modern medicine. Heck if I got involved in a bad car accident, or had a severe heart attack or stroke, I am the first to want to go to an emergency room in a mainstream hospital. But this is not what we're talking about. I do acknowledge all forms of healing, but it seems you're hell bent on discrediting any alternatives, and giving standard medicine more credit than it deserves. Yes, I'm (Con't)
@rmcdaniel423 (Con't) aware that are bodies do fight off so called "infections" that just don't manifest superficially enough to take any additional measures. I do know that we all have cancer cells living in our bodies at all times, but a healthy immune system can keep them in check. Trust me I've done my homework. But the most significant advances in health will not come from the pharmaceutical or medical fields, but the realm of bio energy, and quantum physics. Prayer is a serious study.
Before you judge the success of Christian Science prayer, please check whether Christian Science has actually been practiced, and whether a Christian Science Practitioner has been called to the case, and also whether you can prove that medicine would have cured the trouble.
Judy O. No. No. Your whole construct is off. First of all, the success of CS prayer is one thing; calling in a CS pract is a second thing. You are saying that CS isn't "practiced" unless the person jumps to your rule number two & phones up (and pays!) a CS Pract. who has had 2 weeks of "training" to do "absentee" mental work for the patient! Sounds pretty scammy to me. Which is precisely why I left CS after 5 members of my family DIED during CS treatments (& paid the CS Practitioner. plenty!)
I would honestly have to go with Scientology. Sure most people think it is crazy but it is a bit more logical than Christianity. And don't even get me started on christian "science" denying children medical attention in favor of a fairy tale story.
You are wrong! In Christian Science, you can go to Dr.s and have Medicine. In Christian Science, you are taught that you can heal as Jesus did, without medicine. As far as Metaphysics, you can't learn more about it than through Christian Science.
yeah kinda like those christian science people in washington who watched their kid die instead of saving him by taking him to a hospital christian sscience is the most twisted form of christianity.
Well, considering Agnostic Atheist takes the stance that "There's no way we can know; there's probably not a creator, but we can never know unless there's evidence," I assume that's what you're talking about. You might be confusing Agnostic Atheism with Gnostic Atheism, which is the stance that "There is no creator, GTFO." Most Atheists put themselves in the former
I thought this video was humerous. I laughed. I was brought up in christian science . I dont think that the scientologists who see this movie would like it. This is a pro christian science movie.
How about making a religion where you believe that something made the universe and it's infinite timeline (Not time-ray as Christians call it.) but you just don't know what. We'll call it... Non-Atheism...?
@didioriol no christian science is focused on trying to prove that evoluution is not true and that the story of creation in the bible with adam and eve bla bla, so unless you may be a christian who is also a scientist, but your only a christian scientist if your work is to do with proving the bibles version of creation. And you could argue that christian scientists arent real scientists since they butcher the scientific method.
You die-hard Christian Scientists never give up do you. Always defending dead ol Mary Baker Eddy. The religion is a farce, give it up. It has encouraged more people to go to early graves just because they were too ashamed to admit that their religious beliefs were nothing short of toxic denial and insanity. Those of you who defend it are so mixed up it it just plain sad. I am so glad I dropped out before I got incurably sick like all the other CSists I knew. Thank God the church is folding!
Christian $cience is not a religeon. They just wanted tax exempt status for themselves. It was founded by a science fictionwriter who declared " I will start a religeon. That is where the money is.
I am sorry you think that as a Christian Scientist you cannot take medicine. As a matter of fact nothing says that you cannot....some ppl are crazy fanatic ill give u that, but you don;t have to insult Cristian Scientist just because you had a bad experience...btw the church in not folding
I love this video! The guy is fun and funny. I vote for Christian Science! I love all of Mary Baker Eddy's writings! Reading Rooms Rock! Thank goodness we are Americans and have freedom of religion! Oh yeah, and freedom of speech!
I'm just holding out hope for the ultimate combination of contradictions, paradoxes, and illogical conclusions: Christian Scientology. They will believe L. Ron Hubbard is God and Tom Cruise is Jesus...
@Idude893 Christian Science has nothing to do with chemistry or biology or any of those sciences... nor does it try and mix those sciences with religion
2. Not all the people who believe Jesus is God are part of a religion
3. Not all Christian scientists are jackasses, examples include Max Planck, Heisenberg, Pauli, Maxwell (one of the top ranked infleuntial scientists), Copernicus, Galilei, Kepler, Bacon, Kelvin, and lets not forget the most infleuntial scientists in all of history Issac Newton.
How could Sir Isaac Newton be a Christian Scientist when that religion wasn't even INVENTED yet? And YES, all religions are cults. I was raised as a Christian Scientist, and am now an Atheist and I really think you should read up on Christian Science before you start posting about scientists who are Christians.
"How could Sir Isaac Newton be a Christian Scientist when that religion wasn't even INVENTED yet?"
you mean Christian scientism, or him beign a Christian? Issac newton was a Christian scientist, his belief system was Christianity and he was the most infleuntial scientist, he was an unorthodox Aryan, not a christian scientism.
newton wasn't that, you misconstrue what I said, you should read my comment first.
@ogirv101 as much as i would love to believe all those people were christian scientists i think ur confusing "christian scientists" for scientists that are christians
There is no contradiction between CS and natural science rather, a refreshing realisation among Christian Scientists that human beings can look beyond materialism. If you're worried about Christian Science being "scientific" read some philosophers of science like Thomas Kuhn or Paul Feyerabend and you'll find you'll be far less sure about what you think you know
CS is way ahead of the public debate about science and religion. Because it describes God in terms such as infinite Spirit, Principle, Father-Mother, incorporeal Life, Truth, Love, I find it is possible to appreciate the spiritual truth in the Bible and to call myself a Christian, while also agreeing with the likes of Richard Dawkins and Stephen Hawking that there is no bearded man in the sky.
A lot of people today admit to having a spiritual inclination but are not attracted by religiosity, superstitious dogma or scientific illiteracy. Real Christian Science is the exact opposite of all of these. I had experience of several Christian denominations as a young person, and have come to believe that Christian Science, at its best, is Christianity, at its best.
how is christian science a cult? just leave them alone... they are probably the most loving, caring people you will ever meet. Mary Baker Eddy never claims herself to be above Jesus in any way.
thank u i mean everyone is saying we r a cult cuz we dont think jesus and god r the same person. jesus is gods son he says it himself in the bible that he is the son of god and alot of ppl think that he could heal bcuz he was god...then how do u explain how the deciples did it? how do u explain how ppl do it 2day all the time!
Ok all the people who are saying that CS is a cult. you are, im sorry to say, ENTIRELY WRONG. I have like 10 CS friends (I am not), and i have attended their church services because i got stuck with one of them. It is completely normal. there are no panic buttons, alarms, documentations, or anything. they r normal people!! and any sensible person would take the precautions to have alarms. there is such a thing as money. Anyways dont poison peoples idea about CS before they know it.
how long have you been invovled? I'm going on a year living with the first reader of a church in the atlanta area and the cs committee on publication (I'm in fostercare). while they are normal people (and the nicest i have ever met), they are considered a cult to some because they base their entire system off a womans ideas which were "biblically based" but I never read about animal magnitism, that sin and death are not real in my bible. In addition i do wonder when jesus spoke about hypnotism.
its called a "spiritual interpretation. thats why Mary Baker Eddy talks about what Jesus was implying. And the hypnotism Jesus was talking about was what Mrs. Eddy calls error, or sin. REMEMBER...INTERPRETATION. Try reading the last one hundred pages of a science and health.
"Scientology, i dunno, celebrities do it"
That's a great reason. Therefore it must be good.
bobbymozza 1 week ago
Yes, I truly do. :)
soulman35 1 month ago
@soulman35 A smiley face doesn't help me to believe you. I find it difficult to understand how you can listen to her story and still be puzzled as to what you would do. "I think it helps to remember that God is good, and God is in control, rather than believing that we are just subject to chance." It may help you but that doesn't give you the right to sacrifice a child's health because you're afraid of living in an uncertain world. Everybody is. You're not special in that regard.
Smithpolly 1 month ago
@Smithpolly My smile is sincere. If you were sitting here you would see my sincerity. You have very strong opinions about this it sounds like and evidently you feel like one particular method is the best. Liz does admit that people don't always have a good outcome of that condition even in hospitals. My point is that that one road is not infallible. I wanted to get you to consider that. But yes, absolutely, I would want to see it healed one way or another. So yes I am genuine.
soulman35 1 month ago
@soulman35 So your objection to bringing her to the hospital in this case is solely because you don't think modern medicine is advanced enough to treat this particular condition? In which case, I assume if you were the parent of Robyn Twitchell, you would have brought him to hospital straight away.
Smithpolly 1 month ago
@Smithpolly I would not have had an objection if the parents had chosen to bring the child to the hospital. You asked what I would have done. I answered it is hard to say because I wasn't there and Christian has worked well for me. One has to be ready to have a fair conversation. And at some point to agree to disagree and wish each other well. I wish you well. I wished Liz well. She wished me well. It seems that you want it to be one way. I see more than 1 way. Can you wish me well?
soulman35 1 month ago
@soulman35 The day you can wish Robyn Twitchell alive again is the day I can wish you well? All I ask is that when you tell people your quirky heartwarming story about your burnt hand, you tell his story, too. He can't tell it for himself.
Smithpolly 1 month ago
@Smithpolly Somehow you seem to want me to be able to control what other people do or have done, and it's just not within the scope of my abilities. I live my own life, share my own stories, love people and love healing, and love what Christian Science has done for me, how I have helped others with it. I take things on a case by case. I don't judge, I do my best. Try to be a good and fair person. Not everyone thinks that is good enough, but it's the best I can do. Good night.
soulman35 1 month ago
@soulman35 You do judge. You judge that Robyn Twitchell's story is not a pleasant one. And you judge right.
Smithpolly 1 month ago
@Smithpolly We agree there. It is tragic. I just don't see the value of taking only the tragedies of any genre of healing, be it material medicine or any other form of healing, and seeking to invalidate all the good that has been accomplished by those methods. It's not constructive to me. Let's take what has worked, hold fast to that, build on that, compare notes, and work together to build a perfect principle of healing. The world needs that in my opinion. I think it's possible.
soulman35 1 month ago
@soulman35 I'm not asking that you only take the tragedies. I am, however, asking that you do take them. You say "Let's take what has worked, hold fast to that". For Robyn Twitchell, taking him to a hospital for treatment would have worked. The Christian science method killed him. And just because you don't find his story "constructive to me" doesn't make it any less true or any less worthy of being told.
Smithpolly 1 month ago
@Smithpolly His story may be instructive to some people, and you are definitely out there telling it. I will continue to tell my own story which is my right to tell. My experience is my own. Christian Science saved my life 20 years ago, and it has made me all the more patriotic that I have the right to study it in this country and talk about how it helps me. I respect your right to express your opinion. I have my own relationship with these teachings. That's how it's going to stay.
soulman35 1 month ago
@soulman35 You say you study Christian Science. Robyn Twitchell is part of that story. And he deserves better than to be swept under the carpet like some dirty little secret.
Smithpolly 1 month ago
@Smithpolly Here's my final analysis of this conversation. My opinion is that you are angry and misguided, though you do care about children. You think I am misguided and irresponsible. We will have to leave it at that, because I can't spend any more time on this particular conversation with you. I hope you have a peaceful holiday.
soulman35 1 month ago
@soulman35 You're right. Robyn Twitchell does not make for a pleasant conversation and we must never think unpleasant thoughts, must we? So Robyn Twitchell must be forgotten and hidden away. Time to go back to your happy place now.
Smithpolly 1 month ago
@Smithpolly Probably what I should have said is "Fair enough" you know what you would have done in the situation. But then it leaves the question unanswered - what would happen if that didn't work, you see? It is good that you feel confident in what you believe. But we have different experiences and consequently different approaches. Can we agree to disagree? Liz and I hugged at the end of our conversation. She hugged me tight. This should be about love and having real conversation.
soulman35 1 month ago
@soulman35 Robyn Twitchell died of a peritonitis caused by a bowel obstruction that medical professionals declared would have been easily correctable. Would you have brought him to a hospital or would you have let him die?
Smithpolly 1 month ago
@Smithpolly If I myself or a loved one were facing anything that wasn't healed fast, I would find out what was wrong one way or another and talk things over with the doctor and work out a course of healing that would both bring the best relief, and carry the best odds of a complete healing. I have done this in certain cases. And it has worked and the doctors were always respectful and worked with me. But I have to go. Best wishes to you.
soulman35 1 month ago
@soulman35 Tell his story or don't tell your own.
Smithpolly 1 month ago
I am watching it, but I am already familiar with her story, in fact I talked to her one on one a couple of years ago in Boston. She is a really cool lady. I felt her sincerity when I was talking to her, and her opinions are understandable based on her experience. She was very respectful towards me. My experience has been completely different. It's not my place to say what people should or should not do for themselves or their kids. I say do whatever relieves suffering. CS works for me.
soulman35 1 month ago
@soulman35 I'm not asking you to tell other people what they should or should not do for themselves or their kids. I simply asking what you would do as the parent in this situation?
Smithpolly 1 month ago
What was the point of this video?
acidstars9 1 month ago
im a christian scientist :)
IPlayCodNoobs 5 months ago
@IPlayCodNoobs Sucks for you...
TheWarPlanet 4 months ago
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Most folks really don't know the difference. Especially the guy who chose Scientology "because he is more interested in metaphysics". CS is metaphysics at it's finest. Scientology is strange and cult-ish. I've had experience... But there is no need to have heated argument about either persuasion, they are both peaceful and generally harmless :)
palebluedot100 10 months ago
Most folks really don't know the difference. Especially the guy who chose Scientology "because he is more interested in metaphysics". CS is metaphysics at it's finest. Scientology is strange and cult-ish. I've had experience... But there is no need to have heated argument about either persuasion, they are both peaceful and generally harmless :)
palebluedot100 10 months ago
@palebluedot100 Generally harmless. That wasn't the case for Robyn Twitchell,
Smithpolly 1 month ago
do you know the difference? Why are you even asking this question, and what does your video mean. Christian Science is SO SO SO VERY different from Scientology.
You might as well be walking around like an idiot asking people, Baptist or Jew?
Pepsi or Green tea...
Do something with your time that is worth wile instead of making these retarded videos.
jasvvolo 11 months ago
Christian science. Hahaha they crack me up!
dafatboy101 11 months ago
These videos crack me up, and the guy is fun and funny. I am a Christian Scientist. I can have an aspirin if I want one, but I don't need one. I can't even remember the last time I had a headache. However, several years ago I burned my hand and couldn't stand the pain after a few hours. I called a Christian Science practitioner, and in within five minutes the pain was gone. Skin healed up in 3 days. True story.
soulman35 1 year ago 5
@soulman35 How about if you break a leg?
Smithpolly 1 month ago
@Smithpolly Probably have it set, and then heal it with Christian Science. But why is it always a broken leg! lol I have had some pretty gnarly wipe outs skating and skiing and have come out pretty unscathed. I like to think that my prayers which affirm my substance to be spiritual rather than material, help to protect me and perhaps even prevent accidents. I think it helps to remember that God is good, and God is in control, rather than believing that we are just subject to chance.
soulman35 1 month ago
@soulman35 Why do you need to have it set?
Smithpolly 1 month ago
@Smithpolly You might not have to. It's hard to say what you would do in a situation. I know where my understanding is for the most part. If it didn't snap back into place, knowing myself, I would have it put back and rely as much as possible on metaphysics because it has worked for me for 20 years with lots of healings. The main thing for me would be overcoming fear in a situation like that. But that's just me. Who knows what someone else might do. Whatever works.
soulman35 1 month ago
@soulman35 Can I ask you to look at the Liz Heywood video on Youtube and ask what you would have done as the parent in this situation?
Smithpolly 1 month ago
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@Smithpolly I am watching it, but I am already familiar with her story, in fact I talked to her one on one a couple of years ago in Boston. She is a really cool lady. I felt her sincerity when I was talking to her, and her opinions are understandable based on her experience. She was very respectful towards me. My experience has been completely different. It's not my place to say what people should or should not do for themselves or their kids. I say do whatever relieves suffering. CS work 4 me.
soulman35 1 month ago
@soulman35 I don't know what I would have done. I wasn't in the situation. I don't judge Liz, and I don't judge her parents. I know from my own experience that Christian Science heals. I have seen both sides of this issue being the only CS in my family. I have lost loved ones under very difficult circumstances who suffered greatly under conventional treatment. Everyone is doing their best. The issue is deeper than what is often presented. We should all be seeking a perfect way to heal
soulman35 1 month ago
@soulman35 I wasn't in that situation either but I know what I would have done.
Smithpolly 1 month ago
@Smithpolly And I hope the outcome would have been everything that you hoped. Truly.
soulman35 1 month ago
@soulman35 Do you? Truly?
Smithpolly 1 month ago
2 jokes. 2 fantasylands. 2 groups of idiots.
externalpower 1 year ago
Neither is the way to go.
phokusone79 1 year ago
Celebirties do it? Thats your answer??
YeshuaisYahweh1 1 year ago
@YeshuaisYahweh1 RIGHT? does that guy have a brain!?
emmacita2009 11 months ago
@emmacita2009 Yea, he is a dumbass.
YeshuaisYahweh1 11 months ago
Neither, both are a damnable cult.
millball 1 year ago
@millball you need to research a little more. it's only a certain group inside christian science that makes them appear as a cult. get your facts right.
emmacita2009 11 months ago
@emmacita2009 Scientologists reckon people are eternal. That attribute is only to God. AntiChrist Science according to some frail sickly woman, whom God with his abundant grace, managed to become well again came up with the heretical absurdies such as reality is just an illusion, sin is only a state of the mind but to mention a few. I know my facts Emma; I wouldn't state without them. Reality is real. Man is actually sinful. Jesus is Holy and died so that sinners could enter heaven! amen!
millball 11 months ago
This video just shows how ignorant people are to the workings of certain religions, and how these beliefs have caused suffering and death to many of its followers.
Question: Christian Science or $cientology?
My Answer: Fuck them both!
MorbidRomantic666 1 year ago
@MorbidRomantic666 It would be more intelligent to research both of these religions before you start criticizing either one. More individuals die from medical treatment EVERY day than have died being treated by Christian Science. Please don't insult something you don't know about.
albelle25 1 year ago
@albelle25 First of all, I know quite a bit about both religions; especially Scientology. And, yes, I'm certain more people die in the care of licensed physicians than through treatment by Christian Science. However, that is because most people are rational enough to seek medical science for treatment than faith healing. And I'm certain, statically, you would find a higher percentage of people recovering through medical treatment than with simple faith healing.
MorbidRomantic666 1 year ago
@MorbidRomantic666 christian science isn't faith healing.
emmacita2009 11 months ago
I've learned a great deal from studying Christian Science as presented by Mary Baker Eddy, even attribute to it the spiritual healing I've experienced, but I probably could find something helpful in the study of Scientology too. Come to think of it, I've also learned from science, music, history....
HealingScienceToday 1 year ago
it is great to hear that Cristian Science is so topical there.
Two local Churches of Christ Scientist closed down because few people lived near them any more; London UK.
I still have all the literature that was provide free of charge from the basket out front of the reading room.
cheers.
from,
del-boy.
MarulanChristianDior 1 year ago
Neither. Both are equally stupid.
SmileysRevenge100 1 year ago
Fascinating poll ~ Thanks for putting this out there. Christian Science as taught by Mary Baker Eddy (Mother of modern Metaphysics) came to my attention long after the docs had given up the case. Thank God for healing alternatives!
"'Science and Health* [Mrs. Eddy's magnum opus] is beyond this generation's understanding. It is the _pure_ science. And, to think that a woman knew this over eighty years ago!'" ~ Albert Einstein
*See TheSecretCoop Channel for the S&H 700 Project ~ Cheers!
thesecretcoop 1 year ago
neither....
1ProbablyHateYou 1 year ago
I love it. Mary Baker Eddy created quite a stir. I love Christian Science :)
soulman35 1 year ago
"Scientology"
"...Why?"
"uhh I dunno, celebrities do it, seems ahh, I'd like to ahh do wha-"
"Great!"
a4d2d0 1 year ago
I doubt many knew what either was.
lol @ "Celebrities do it"
RetroGameKid 1 year ago
the 'science' of Christian science is believing Faggot jesus will instantly heal them. My god, what a curse on their rational mind it is. The fact that some christians do get rich preaching the tripe of Christianity is simply proof Jesus is 1) real 2) the devil There's a couple people at the top of Christianity who get rich off the fools, while spreading this 'kill me, fuck me' satanic religion. A giant pyramind was erected on her birthplace in 1921 because she was a Freemason
SimonCowellAI 1 year ago
@SimonCowellAI You then obviously. . .have no idea what christian science is don't ya :3
Congrats on the rant, I give a 9.5/10 for being close-minded.
Scotish223332 1 year ago
Christian Science!! i have been raised in it my entire life as have my family :)
WhatsHotWhatsNot20 1 year ago
What is it that is missing in Scientology that you seem to believe Christian Science has the answer for? What is it in Scientology that erks you the most?
TheBronagh 1 year ago 2
Christian science is by far the more metaphysical religion so that one guy most have mixed them up. Hahaha.
madhackrviper 1 year ago
@madhackrviper How many religious groups label 'metaphysics' as a part of their belief system; you seem to know a lot about this subject, I look forward to your informative answer.
TheBronagh 1 year ago 2
how can you have christianty and science in the same sentence? its an oxymoron. religion is faith science is fact
ellimist6 1 year ago 2
So if somebody has a messed up hip instead of getting a biocompatible hip implant we should just pray to christian science and jesus that all the pain will go again and the person doesn't have an immensely painful ever deteriorating joint? Maybe the celebrities should start praying that their ferrari's will get fixed by God instead of taking them in for a tune up.
chris9986 1 year ago
Wow. How empirical? You could get a similar response by asking the question "Intestate or nonstarter?" People like this show their hate very well, while trying to prove someone else as a hater.
danielharmonizer 1 year ago
Christian's are not good people, They delude themselves and others, and raise their children on fear. Christians are cowardly humans with no respect for Gods creation. They piss all over it with lies and manipulation. Just wait and see the replies to this post. Watch the loonies weigh in.
MrStoneMasher 1 year ago
Scientology! we have phyiscal proof about how the world works, DNA testing, medicine . . . everything the human race needs! what we dont need is to "believe" in a book! a book can be written by anyone! for all we know . . . someone could have gotten bored many years ago and decided to right this book and call it "The Bible"!
RyuzakiLawliet1 1 year ago
christian science does not kill you dont lose people to it christian science teaches you how to heal without medicine and belive
greenmegan13 1 year ago
Scientology and Christian Science are nothing alike.
jtkalehua 1 year ago
What kind of choice is that?! "Christian science" or "Scientology"? How about adding, "God doesn't exist, moron" to the list of choices.
peregrin666 1 year ago 2
@peregrin666 well said, my friend! XD
RyuzakiLawliet1 1 year ago
christian science is an oxymoron that makes me cringe
alexmigda 1 year ago 11
@alexmigda God created science along with everything else, therefor, it's not an oxymoron.
m7l5t3 1 year ago 4
@alexmigda you should study up a little more about it before you say that. It's the science behind what Jesus was able to accomplish. that's basically it in a nutshell
emmacita2009 11 months ago
@alexmigda • How do you figure ?
It is the science of Christianity.
56jensen 8 months ago
They are two complete opposite things. Christian is a very well respected Religion. It teaches about Jesus, the way He heals and all about Metaphysics. I could go on & on, bit space here is limited. To know more, got to a Christian Science Church or Reading Room. You can also go online to spirituality . com
jonsaguard 1 year ago
god isnt real cause he was a COMMUNIST
lifes40123 1 year ago
I'm not a Christian Scientist but I've heard only good things about it. A few comments here claim that CS has "killed" people which I find hard to believe, especially the one that said he/she lost 5 loved ones because of CS. In fact, I've lost many more family and friends while under standard medical care. Every year, more than 300,000 people in the US alone DIE from drug side effects, not counting other medical procedures which pushes that annual figure even higher, and nobody seems to care!
edwong3 2 years ago 2
edwong very good reply! It is ignorant to say CS has "killed' people since CS uses not matirial means of healing,does not touch patients, prescribes no special foods or drinks.
Noone has ever died or has ever been killed by CS! It is impossible!!!!!
Jame243 2 years ago
@Jame243 Thanks for your input. Can't say the same about the ignorant idiot who gave me a thumbs down. I guess they can't bear the truth! I have lost 3 relatives to cancer while they were undertaking MEDICAL TREATMENT and I'm not ranting about how ineffective chemotherapy and radiation are, but I know where NOT to look if in the very unlikely event I ever developed that condition. Thanks again. and to our GOOD HEALTH!
edwong3 2 years ago
My good friend edwong3 thank you for your good reply; CS is a practical Spiritual Science and it has been demostrated countless times if the rules of Spiritual Mind healing are applied and strictly adhered too!!!!!!
I have applied to myself and I have been healed always. Jesus said :Your Faith has saved you! Jesus was a Spiritual Scientist. CS explains what is this Faith that saves and heals so you can undestand it now and go and practice it on yourself and help others also.
Jame243 2 years ago
@edwong3 Well, god sure is doing a bang up job of helping his devout followers! I am sorry for you loss, and I hope that science advances far enough that people will not resort to talking to themselves to heal their various ailments.
JIHADIST1 1 year ago
@edwong3 That is true Ed. In fact one study shows the the number one killer in the Unites States are medical facilities, medications, surgeries on people that don't need them and side effects from prescribed medications. That is statistical fact. Yet medical facilities that do not attribute anything to God aren't vilified. Its also ironic that the medical symbol happens to be a serpent coiled around a staff. We are told time and again in the Bible that the serpent was a liar.
DocHymes 1 year ago
@DocHymes Really? The "number one killer" is a whole list of things? (snicker) Medical errors account for more deaths than heart disease? Complications of diabetes? Smoking? Various cancers? I didn't know that.
I'll be honest, if modern medicine hurt more people than it helped, it wouldn't be utilized to the degree that it is. And it sure as hell works better than prayer.
rmcdaniel423 1 year ago
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@rmcdaniel423 "I didn't know that"..... Ignorance is bliss .. isn't it .. ~ and ~
"if modern medicine hurt more people than it helped, it wouldn't be utilized to the degree that it is. ..And it sure as hell works better than prayer." Really ? tell that to the physicians who usually say "there is nothing more we could do for him" and to the taxpayer who is now footing the bill for this colossal slave trade legislation. Point being the body will be dust in a few decades ever heard of faith ?
DocHymes 1 year ago
@DocHymes - See christian = paranoid coward.
The significance of the serpent has been interpreted in many ways; sometimes the shedding of skin and renewal is emphasized as symbolizing rejuvenation, while other assessments center on the serpent as a symbol that unites and expresses the dual nature of the work of the physician, who deals with life and death, sickness and health. Products deriving from the bodies of snakes were known to have medicinal properties in ancient times.
MrStoneMasher 1 year ago
@edwong3 wrote " I'm not a Christian Scientist but I've heard only good things about it."
Here's a little anecdote. Nothing definitive - just one case. My neighbors were CS when I was in high school. One year, there was a small epidemic of pink eye (conjunctivitis) in the school. Neighbor girl got it. It is simply treated with antibiotics. But, left untreated and only prayed for, it can lead to ocular damage or even blindness. She had to beg my sister to share her meds and keep it secret. Sad.
rmcdaniel423 1 year ago
@rmcdaniel423 Life has taught me that healing can only come from within oneself. Now there are "catalysts" that can help to initiate the body's healing process such as a medicine or medical procedure, an herbal remedy, a homeopathic preparation, massage therapy, correct diet, surgery, psychotherapy, and PRAYER. Worst conditions than pink eye have been overcome without medicine through other means other than antibiotics, but if that is what is available then use it with the faith it will help.
edwong3 1 year ago
@edwong3 The fact that antibiotics kill bacteria is not a matter of "faith".
I believe that prayer may have meditative effects that are beneficial to the healing process. I believe that is no different than non-prayer meditation/relaxation. I also believe the double blind scientific studies that show prayer is equal to random luck and coincidence driven by other circumstances. My problem is with the few people who deny methods known to work, relying only on "faith". Especially with kids.
rmcdaniel423 1 year ago
@rmcdaniel423 I'm not arguing that antibiotics don't kill bacteria. It's just that you may not realize it can have it's negative effects too. People have died taking antibiotics or have had at least some allergic reaction to it. I for one am allergic to Penicillin and some other types of antibiotics, but I NEVER GET AN INFECTION anyway! In reality I don't believe much in prayer as taught by religion, but rather in scientific application of prayer with modern energy psychology methodologies.
edwong3 1 year ago
@edwong3 By coincidence, I happen to work in the medical field. I do know there are risks involved. The risks are outweighed by the potential benefit. Just ask a third world country that is lacking in modern medicine, where simple infections kill children all the time.
I also know enough about physiology to call your claim of "never get an infection" false. All people are infected all the time. Your body just usually fights it off naturally, so you never notice.
"Scientific Prayer" = oxymoron
rmcdaniel423 1 year ago
@rmcdaniel423 Well good for you if you work in the medical field! I'm not debating the value of modern medicine. Heck if I got involved in a bad car accident, or had a severe heart attack or stroke, I am the first to want to go to an emergency room in a mainstream hospital. But this is not what we're talking about. I do acknowledge all forms of healing, but it seems you're hell bent on discrediting any alternatives, and giving standard medicine more credit than it deserves. Yes, I'm (Con't)
edwong3 1 year ago
@rmcdaniel423 (Con't) aware that are bodies do fight off so called "infections" that just don't manifest superficially enough to take any additional measures. I do know that we all have cancer cells living in our bodies at all times, but a healthy immune system can keep them in check. Trust me I've done my homework. But the most significant advances in health will not come from the pharmaceutical or medical fields, but the realm of bio energy, and quantum physics. Prayer is a serious study.
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gassyfartypoop 2 years ago
i dont know why they are comparing the two i think peple just get confused with the name.
SociatalEffecta 2 years ago
Before you judge the success of Christian Science prayer, please check whether Christian Science has actually been practiced, and whether a Christian Science Practitioner has been called to the case, and also whether you can prove that medicine would have cured the trouble.
JudyOsmundson 2 years ago
Judy O. No. No. Your whole construct is off. First of all, the success of CS prayer is one thing; calling in a CS pract is a second thing. You are saying that CS isn't "practiced" unless the person jumps to your rule number two & phones up (and pays!) a CS Pract. who has had 2 weeks of "training" to do "absentee" mental work for the patient! Sounds pretty scammy to me. Which is precisely why I left CS after 5 members of my family DIED during CS treatments (& paid the CS Practitioner. plenty!)
menderfire9 2 years ago
Neither, Science is neither Christian or part of Scientology
questionsamson 2 years ago
christian scientology
thenewrapstyle 2 years ago
YOU'VE CREATED A MONSTER
thatsMrSmileytoyou 2 years ago
I would honestly have to go with Scientology. Sure most people think it is crazy but it is a bit more logical than Christianity. And don't even get me started on christian "science" denying children medical attention in favor of a fairy tale story.
goonodeath 2 years ago
Both are fucked up. Scientology has KILLED people. i would pick christian science becuz at least that is easier to deal with. I mean disprove.
metalsaw666 2 years ago
Mormon - Christ Science = no doctrine after death
KingdomOrmond 2 years ago
really what was the point?
kitsunetears 2 years ago
none, fuck both choices >_>
Vikije666 2 years ago
You are wrong! In Christian Science, you can go to Dr.s and have Medicine. In Christian Science, you are taught that you can heal as Jesus did, without medicine. As far as Metaphysics, you can't learn more about it than through Christian Science.
jonsaguard 2 years ago
yeah kinda like those christian science people in washington who watched their kid die instead of saving him by taking him to a hospital christian sscience is the most twisted form of christianity.
necrotic43 2 years ago
necrotic43, it seems you have a very twisted view on life if that is what you believe. Maybe you should go to church.
jonsaguard 2 years ago
Eddy, in Science and Health With Key To the Scriptures, writes, "Man has certain inalienable rights such as reason, conscience and self-government."
watcher1ful 2 years ago
I was raised in CS... Mo Rocca- "you can't have aspirin!" lol... The guy likes the reading room.
reflectivegoat 2 years ago
you are so ignorant
auzio 2 years ago
Can I choose Atheist science? You know, real science?
LindwurParty 2 years ago
nicely put! :)
UbiquitousticDawkins 2 years ago
How about Agnostic Science? You know, real science where religious beliefs aren't concluded with?
Rko180 2 years ago
If you mean Agnostic Atheist, then yes, that's what I meant.
LindwurParty 2 years ago
I meant that science has no direct affiliation with religious beliefs :P
Rko180 2 years ago
Well, considering Agnostic Atheist takes the stance that "There's no way we can know; there's probably not a creator, but we can never know unless there's evidence," I assume that's what you're talking about. You might be confusing Agnostic Atheism with Gnostic Atheism, which is the stance that "There is no creator, GTFO." Most Atheists put themselves in the former
LindwurParty 2 years ago
Ok, just making sure ;)
Rko180 2 years ago
I thought this video was humerous. I laughed. I was brought up in christian science . I dont think that the scientologists who see this movie would like it. This is a pro christian science movie.
johnbarton1950 2 years ago
Christian science. (im just a christian)
Mariamparker 2 years ago
How about making a religion where you believe that something made the universe and it's infinite timeline (Not time-ray as Christians call it.) but you just don't know what. We'll call it... Non-Atheism...?
NakedCreep 2 years ago
i am a christian scientist......
subarcticheatwave 2 years ago
@subarcticheatwave look im a good student i belive in science and i believe in god.
that makes me a christian scientist?
didioriol 1 year ago
@didioriol no christian science is focused on trying to prove that evoluution is not true and that the story of creation in the bible with adam and eve bla bla, so unless you may be a christian who is also a scientist, but your only a christian scientist if your work is to do with proving the bibles version of creation. And you could argue that christian scientists arent real scientists since they butcher the scientific method.
PooeyBum11 1 year ago
i believe in the flying spaghetti monster
matoisy 2 years ago 2
Christian Science. It is not an oxymoron. Science means the "knowledge of truths." So, CS is the knowledge of the truths of Christianity.
AQHAprincess195 2 years ago
Despite being a complete oxymoron... Christian Science.
SolMaster 2 years ago
Cristian Science, because i dont worship a giant monster in the sky. (neither if i could -.-)
neofriends 2 years ago
both Scientology and Christian Science try to Imitate the real thing.......SCIENCE.
tonyvalenteDOA 2 years ago
..No. I'm a Christian Scientist and we don't even talk about science, that's the most thing people are confused about.
pancakewafflesticks 2 years ago
i wasn't confused, i was being sarcastic.
tonyvalenteDOA 2 years ago
What do Christian Scientist say about home remedies? Do they ever use it instead of medication?
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alanbargainbooks 2 years ago
You die-hard Christian Scientists never give up do you. Always defending dead ol Mary Baker Eddy. The religion is a farce, give it up. It has encouraged more people to go to early graves just because they were too ashamed to admit that their religious beliefs were nothing short of toxic denial and insanity. Those of you who defend it are so mixed up it it just plain sad. I am so glad I dropped out before I got incurably sick like all the other CSists I knew. Thank God the church is folding!
menderfire9 2 years ago
Christian $cience is not a religeon. They just wanted tax exempt status for themselves. It was founded by a science fictionwriter who declared " I will start a religeon. That is where the money is.
dao3rd 2 years ago
No, Scientology was founded by a sci fi writer, dao3rd.
maddiecheeks 2 years ago 2
get your facts straight. Christian science is a religion and it was not invented by a science fictioner
amapolamartinez 2 years ago
Scientology was invented by a SI FI writer.
jonsaguard 2 years ago 13
@dao3rd Mary Baker Eddy wasnt a sci fi writer...
ceaserowns1 2 years ago
I am sorry you think that as a Christian Scientist you cannot take medicine. As a matter of fact nothing says that you cannot....some ppl are crazy fanatic ill give u that, but you don;t have to insult Cristian Scientist just because you had a bad experience...btw the church in not folding
amapolamartinez 2 years ago
A must watch - E2s14T6x5AM
2009uzzi 2 years ago
I love this video! The guy is fun and funny. I vote for Christian Science! I love all of Mary Baker Eddy's writings! Reading Rooms Rock! Thank goodness we are Americans and have freedom of religion! Oh yeah, and freedom of speech!
soulman35 2 years ago
I'm just holding out hope for the ultimate combination of contradictions, paradoxes, and illogical conclusions: Christian Scientology. They will believe L. Ron Hubbard is God and Tom Cruise is Jesus...
DomicileImbecile 2 years ago
Christian Science tries to impossibly mix science and religion, Scientology is a cult that steals your money and split up families.
Idude893 2 years ago
@Idude893 Christian Science has nothing to do with chemistry or biology or any of those sciences... nor does it try and mix those sciences with religion
ceaserowns1 2 years ago
I've met some very nice jackasses
Angelo9123 2 years ago
All religions are cults, but you have to know that all Christian Scientists are jackasses.
michellestmarie 2 years ago
"All religions are cults"
1. No they aren't
2. Not all the people who believe Jesus is God are part of a religion
3. Not all Christian scientists are jackasses, examples include Max Planck, Heisenberg, Pauli, Maxwell (one of the top ranked infleuntial scientists), Copernicus, Galilei, Kepler, Bacon, Kelvin, and lets not forget the most infleuntial scientists in all of history Issac Newton.
ogirv101 2 years ago
How could Sir Isaac Newton be a Christian Scientist when that religion wasn't even INVENTED yet? And YES, all religions are cults. I was raised as a Christian Scientist, and am now an Atheist and I really think you should read up on Christian Science before you start posting about scientists who are Christians.
michellestmarie 2 years ago
"And YES, all religions are cults."
Prove it with empirical evidence moron.
"How could Sir Isaac Newton be a Christian Scientist when that religion wasn't even INVENTED yet?"
you mean Christian scientism, or him beign a Christian? Issac newton was a Christian scientist, his belief system was Christianity and he was the most infleuntial scientist, he was an unorthodox Aryan, not a christian scientism.
newton wasn't that, you misconstrue what I said, you should read my comment first.
ogirv101 2 years ago
Your ignorance speaks for itself.
michellestmarie 2 years ago
What are you talking about?
You told me that all rleigions are cult, I said give me proof, you don't respond,a nd i'm ignroant. =p
You misconstrue my comment and i'm the ignorant, what a moron. Come back with some proper inteligence imbecile.
ogirv101 2 years ago
@ogirv101 as much as i would love to believe all those people were christian scientists i think ur confusing "christian scientists" for scientists that are christians
ceaserowns1 2 years ago
Why does it have to be something or something...Why can't you take the good from both and disregard the rest?
sgintn 2 years ago
The fundamentals of CS are to love God (good) and to love your neighbour. I dont know about Scientology
Angelo9123 2 years ago
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Angelo9123 2 years ago
There is no contradiction between CS and natural science rather, a refreshing realisation among Christian Scientists that human beings can look beyond materialism. If you're worried about Christian Science being "scientific" read some philosophers of science like Thomas Kuhn or Paul Feyerabend and you'll find you'll be far less sure about what you think you know
Angelo9123 3 years ago
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Angelo9123 3 years ago
CS is way ahead of the public debate about science and religion. Because it describes God in terms such as infinite Spirit, Principle, Father-Mother, incorporeal Life, Truth, Love, I find it is possible to appreciate the spiritual truth in the Bible and to call myself a Christian, while also agreeing with the likes of Richard Dawkins and Stephen Hawking that there is no bearded man in the sky.
Angelo9123 3 years ago 3
A lot of people today admit to having a spiritual inclination but are not attracted by religiosity, superstitious dogma or scientific illiteracy. Real Christian Science is the exact opposite of all of these. I had experience of several Christian denominations as a young person, and have come to believe that Christian Science, at its best, is Christianity, at its best.
Angelo9123 3 years ago
Both answers are wrong therefore u r all idiots who answered one or the other .
Tempest357 3 years ago
how is christian science a cult? just leave them alone... they are probably the most loving, caring people you will ever meet. Mary Baker Eddy never claims herself to be above Jesus in any way.
jimstark51 3 years ago
thank you.
rupesyomoma 3 years ago
thank u i mean everyone is saying we r a cult cuz we dont think jesus and god r the same person. jesus is gods son he says it himself in the bible that he is the son of god and alot of ppl think that he could heal bcuz he was god...then how do u explain how the deciples did it? how do u explain how ppl do it 2day all the time!
mifofif 2 years ago
Ok all the people who are saying that CS is a cult. you are, im sorry to say, ENTIRELY WRONG. I have like 10 CS friends (I am not), and i have attended their church services because i got stuck with one of them. It is completely normal. there are no panic buttons, alarms, documentations, or anything. they r normal people!! and any sensible person would take the precautions to have alarms. there is such a thing as money. Anyways dont poison peoples idea about CS before they know it.
rupesyomoma 3 years ago
how long have you been invovled? I'm going on a year living with the first reader of a church in the atlanta area and the cs committee on publication (I'm in fostercare). while they are normal people (and the nicest i have ever met), they are considered a cult to some because they base their entire system off a womans ideas which were "biblically based" but I never read about animal magnitism, that sin and death are not real in my bible. In addition i do wonder when jesus spoke about hypnotism.
kelleybells 3 years ago
its called a "spiritual interpretation. thats why Mary Baker Eddy talks about what Jesus was implying. And the hypnotism Jesus was talking about was what Mrs. Eddy calls error, or sin. REMEMBER...INTERPRETATION. Try reading the last one hundred pages of a science and health.
rupesyomoma 3 years ago
Funny, I wounder how many sane people said neither, that were edited out. Poor insane people.. "Christian Science" or Scientology"...lol
putittogether 3 years ago