Saucerdotal - The Mystery of UFO Propulsion - addendum 1

[moya138]

interesting.

[RobMonty248]

@ 8:23, in the supposed alien interview video, there is a point where the general is mad and the alien says telepathically, when we you learn that none of this technology is obtainable with out spirituality. That is what the aliens have we are not using because most people think GOD is Television and they do everything TV says. Meditation leads to the answers though hopefully the truely super smart people out will start to do as christ suggested, ASK to Receive. Meditate and ask, in time youll c

[HemiHead66]

Well, this one is way over my head.

[Bantokfomoki]

@HemiHead66 It's only "over your head" ... IF ... it's right. Otherwise, it's into the 'good idea file'. ;o)

[chfreund]

Okay, all very nicely drawn. But that is stuff for 10th grade school-pupils. Everyone that didn't sleep in school all day knows that with newton-physics you can only prove that it is almost impossible that in a mutual time-frame any ex-solar intelligent species visited us.

[Bantokfomoki]

I don't really understand what you're trying to say but what I'm trying to prove ... and have done so ... is that travel to other star systems in human life span time frames is impossible in the context of the standard model.

Perhaps you are alluding to relativistic considerations. In this case, you cannot avail yourself of those effects because those velocities are unobtainable by any conceivable means ... forever ... unless ... the currently understood laws of physics are false.

[chfreund]

@Bantokfomoki I am saying, that you can tell a 10th grade pupil to make the approach that you made, because your explanation looks like from the 19th century. The book is a science-fiction mystery book full of assumptions. Don't waste your time with it, or with disproving it. Hill himself writes in almost every relevant sentence things like: "If the UFOs mission is ..." or quotes other people and "Accordingly it looks .... ".

[Bantokfomoki]

... and your explanation of the UFO phenomena is... ??? I've encountered thousands of naysayers in my life and they all ... totally without exception ... have one thing in common. They have no ideas of their own to offer. Nothing ... nada ... zip. Give me YOUR ideas ... I gave you mine.

[chfreund]

@Bantokfomoki Just because one can not disprove a belief this is not a proof that this belief is correct or based on facts. My idea, based on current knowledge is: The probability that we get/got in contact with ET in the tiny time-span that we as a species exist is not noteworthy. I love sci-fi books and funny fiction-stories myself, but as an engineer I have to sadly admit that it is unplausible that there is or has been real ET-life on earth.

[Bantokfomoki]

My view here is that the earth has had an ET presence since this planet became really interesting to sighted beings. That would be about the Devonian period ... maybe 400 million years. I consider intelligent life not to have evolved until after population one stars existed with a wide variety of elements with which to construct life. So, I wouldn't place the evolution of intelligent life anywhere in the galaxy earlier than say 7 billion years ago. Thus, there's ample time to explore a galaxy.

[chfreund]

@Bantokfomoki BTW, my idea to all your mentioned "UFO phenomenon" is easy: In the case we would explore a planet filled with 6+ billion technologically inferior beings on it, we would collect them, take probes of all kinds of stuff and watch out like hell, that they do not know we exist. Sounds familiar to you? Thats the stuff that movi.... err ... UFO phenomena are made of. ;-)

[Bantokfomoki]

I believe it's your mind that's monotone ... dude ;o)

[Spulegence]

Fucking bored as hell....dude...use a non monotone voice please.

[RobMonty248]

Anything creating exhaust would need fuel. Nasa Studies with Microwave propulsion technology that does emit some kinda exhaust but it is very minute and the fuel source is abundant in many types also, more then one fuel type is availible in the AIR and in Space is what ive seen and also they show a working model!!!! Not sure if if has all that much to do with this video theory though, letting go of logical is the first step in my opinion. Math taught us its not possible on purpose is my thouhgt.

[RobMonty248]

My thoughts, The Logical mind will not comprehend this, Mayans supposidly understood this knowledge yet where is there examples of comlex math as such? Some things happen through thought itself, I beleive this technology will not advance till we do understand it is BIO-Technology as much as it is Physical, BIO being the most important as in, The mind will operate some of the things we do not understand in logical physical math, some of this is possible just by thinking it up, math isnt needed.

[marioalonso0304]

hola