I come here to watch Ray play, and see a bunch off comments of ppl arguing over whether or not he's better than David.
Both David and Ray are amazingly epic kickass drummers, with their own unique, style. Neither sounds like the other,and never will. So, fans, stop arguing about them. Stop saying "Oh if David were in the band, the music wouldn't sound like this." or "Ray is better/David is better."
Who the fuck CARES who is better? They are BOTH awesome.
@DrPoon i dont think ray luzier is a kid, not sure but i think he's in his 30's. he's good, never gave him a listen cause korn blows goats!!! god awfull shite.
im sorry guys but i used to always tell my friends david was better but this new gut has alot of fucking emotion. i noticed it right at 1:05 but david is definitly still unique as fuck cause he has that drum set with that one low ass drum snare that booms when he hits it. you can notice it alot on issues.
@DNME87 ALREADY DID. JUST OPEN YOUR EYES AND ACCEPT THE FACT THAT DAVID IS WAY OUT-CLASSED BY RAY IN ALL CATEGORY OF DRUMMING. BUT HE WAS KORN'S DRUMMER, SO RESPECT.
@luzier13x who said that i didnt accept the fact?... im just giving an honest opinion.
you shouldnt be such a crytbaby about that.
i prefer david's drumming style.
he had such variety of styles at once and always stayed cool.
no offense to luzier, but david,fieldy and well oke.. head (because they didnt replace 'm) had their mayor insturmental twist in the band. as one leaves, korn immediatly gets a change of style. you have to understand that too..
@DNME87 can anyone els hir say that dave's got more variety styles than ray? i guess u missed the part wer ray made all simple korn drum fills into a very complex one. i know, cos im a drummer myself.and b4, i play blind with my band relaxed. cos its basic drums. now, thanks to ray, its not that easy to play anymore, IF, i opted to take on rays version. hehe! comprende?
@luzier13x he's a funk drummer that uses multible style at once while drumming even a single solo. Ray cant even tip to that. ray gets a heavy drumset of which he has to get everything out of.. David knew how to get the best out of even simple drums. where ray failed with ''my time / are you ready to live''
definitly! i just know that David would of done that song allot better. and that was kinda on a standard drumset. ray fucked the drumming up in that song.
@gentx13 Yeah but you have to understand that there are actually people out there that like bands like Nickelback, Evanesence, Blue October, Creed, etc.... People ARE stoopid! Ray is the best frickin' drummer around. I like Josh Freese too.
fuck david he left korn without saying anything and never speaks to jon or munky or anybody, that asshole, im glad they got ray hes 10 times better anyway
Ray is good, but don't talk in such disrespect about david, he made some sweet tracks with korn, sure, how he left korn is weird, but he was awesome, when i first heard korn had a new drummer, i thought: he gotta suck, simply because of the fact he wasn't david, but when i heard him, i took it back immidiatly , he is good, and so was david
@Robbirdolierook Yeah, I'm not saying that david was a bad drummer, because david was incredible!! i'm just saying that i think it was wrong of him to just leave like that and just not give a shit about Korn or any of the band members anymore.
@chromeaddict love the way he moves. i suppose u like drummers who concentrate so hard they forget that how u play is as important as what u play. a musician is an entertainer at the end of the day
i was kinda wishin they could've gotten him but i now he was workin' with ozzy at the time so it wouldn't have worked out but ray is a great addition to the band
I totally agree. Ray is more than enough talent for the type of music Korn makes. I only meant that, judging SKILL only, Ray is not as good as Mikey Bordin.
fuck david he left without saying shit...i dont like whn pple do that so i dont like him anymore as much as i used to love him.....GO RAY AND GO KORN...next album gona rock
I know this guy from drumming on one of the best guitar instrumental albums 'Darren Housholder'. Immense drumming and insane guitar, try get hold of it.
oh yeah he is WAAAY better than david. by far. if only he could have started out with korn when they started. hes amazing. i saw korn play live back in april and they are insanly awesome with him as their new drummer
When I saw korn on their "bitch we have a problem tour", Ray was an absolutely outstanding drummer and also performer as he really really made his presence known even from behind that huge kit.
Perhaps the best drummer I've ever seen. This video is very much a compliment to that!
choujidesu: If you believe this...you would be laughed at by the Korn community itself. David's drumming was horrible live and Jonathan Davis himself said on Modlife that they had to use programs to make David's drumming precisely on tempo for recording. They haven't had to do that with Ray, according to JD. David didn't have the passion for drumming for a long time...he even sold his drums when he quit Korn, if that's not a clear indication.
Even if you listen to the Korn: Live in Montreux (2004) DVD, David doesn't play his OWN drum riffs properly. He just half ass does everything and it made Korn sound horrible for the longest time. (Not dissing the other members, but a drummer IS a crucial part to the sound of a band). Anyways, the point is Ray Luzier = God.
From what you said, how is anyone supposed to develop the conclusion that Luzier is a deity? You were talking about David the whole time and then switched at the last sentence that Ray is God.
idk if anyone saw the live version if Faget w/ ray..but he threw some double bass tht wasnt in there b4...KoRn is going to kick more ass with him (not that david wasnt good) i just think that he got tired of it or ran out of ideas. this guys is fresh and a different style, it should b interesting to c the new album
I hung with Ray backstage at the David Lee Roth/Sammy Hagar tour and there isn't a more down to earth musician on the planet. The interview in Drumhead magazine gave him 12 pages and several full page ads for his endorsements. On top of it all, he is a phenomenal player who I also had the pleasure of seeing him tear up my drumset at one of my gigs. Awesome!!!!
OMG someone who feels the exact same as me. He really fucking does man korns drumming was lacking since follow the leader.. Even though issues is my fav record.. But the drums just werent there. This guy really brings the feel of self titleds drumming back. Just listen to Kidnap the sandy claws thats fucking badass.
Yeah he is a drummer that makes the guitars just so much heavier. He is like vinnie paul in pantera. Dime was an amazing guitarist but his tone wasnt a heavy tone so vinnies drums just made it crunch. Alot of bands are like that and I missed when korn was like that now they are like that again.
He sure does. I'm looking foward to hearing what he does in the studio with the three original Korn guys! What makes this even better, is that Korn is working with original producer Ross Robinson again. Get ready for a brutal sonic assault!
It is official... i quote "In an interview with Star Central, it is now confirmed that Ray Luzier, once back-up band member of Korn, as of 2009, has now become a full time member of the band"!
This left David out and no hope for redemption....
Head is the the one with hope to redeem himself.... I hope he does... i still hope!!!!
Head prob wont though :( he didnt leave korn for god or religion he left 4 his family cause it was just impossible by 2005 :( korn would be the shit again with him abnd davids sadly never coming back
KoRn be better with their instruments? Fieldy was nominated a few years ago like the third better bassist of the world!!!! JD vocals, well that has no discussion, THAT MAN VOICE IS THE BEST IN THE METAL WORLD! Munkey by himself is a good guitarist but when he played with Head they were the best duo guitarist in the world (true fact according critics)
I come here to watch Ray play, and see a bunch off comments of ppl arguing over whether or not he's better than David.
Both David and Ray are amazingly epic kickass drummers, with their own unique, style. Neither sounds like the other,and never will. So, fans, stop arguing about them. Stop saying "Oh if David were in the band, the music wouldn't sound like this." or "Ray is better/David is better."
Who the fuck CARES who is better? They are BOTH awesome.
REIREI29 3 months ago
GEEPERS... Luzier HITS the drums HARD.... i have his Video... he is a very good drummer as well... as informative instructor.......
bcdigiart141 7 months ago
like his drumset setup
yajs77 11 months ago
Best rock drummer out there right now.
byLivio 1 year ago
HOLYY SHIIT!!!!!!! THIS GUYS INSANE!
AbattoirDream 1 year ago
Powerful, but oh so damned smooth and surgical.
TheWitchOvAgnesi 1 year ago
This kid is good no doubt about it.
Probably better, skill wise, than David.
That said, I still don't think he can match the unique hip-hop sound David used to put into the early Korn albums.
DrPoon 1 year ago
@DrPoon i dont think ray luzier is a kid, not sure but i think he's in his 30's. he's good, never gave him a listen cause korn blows goats!!! god awfull shite.
sparkles67 1 year ago
the begining was the hot for teacher drum solo.
FinalSmash874 1 year ago
que EXCELENCIA
erickembolia 1 year ago
the new stuff from korn is pretty bad ass. please don't talk about the untitled cd.. it was the worst piece of plastic I have ever purchased..
jeffmcaraturnbull 1 year ago
im sorry guys but i used to always tell my friends david was better but this new gut has alot of fucking emotion. i noticed it right at 1:05 but david is definitly still unique as fuck cause he has that drum set with that one low ass drum snare that booms when he hits it. you can notice it alot on issues.
mrchadchad1 1 year ago
ray has stil^^
blubberblub28 1 year ago
who said david is better than ray? are you guys fuckin deaf? or maybe blind. hhaha. he's not even half of what ray's got. damn pussy's.
gentx13 1 year ago
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David Silveria beats ray by a frickin long shot! he plays the drums allot more relax and controlled. its gonna be difficult replacing him.
DNME87 1 year ago
@DNME87 ALREADY DID. JUST OPEN YOUR EYES AND ACCEPT THE FACT THAT DAVID IS WAY OUT-CLASSED BY RAY IN ALL CATEGORY OF DRUMMING. BUT HE WAS KORN'S DRUMMER, SO RESPECT.
luzier13x 1 year ago
@luzier13x who said that i didnt accept the fact?... im just giving an honest opinion.
you shouldnt be such a crytbaby about that.
i prefer david's drumming style.
he had such variety of styles at once and always stayed cool.
no offense to luzier, but david,fieldy and well oke.. head (because they didnt replace 'm) had their mayor insturmental twist in the band. as one leaves, korn immediatly gets a change of style. you have to understand that too..
DNME87 1 year ago
@DNME87 can anyone els hir say that dave's got more variety styles than ray? i guess u missed the part wer ray made all simple korn drum fills into a very complex one. i know, cos im a drummer myself.and b4, i play blind with my band relaxed. cos its basic drums. now, thanks to ray, its not that easy to play anymore, IF, i opted to take on rays version. hehe! comprende?
luzier13x 1 year ago
@luzier13x he's a funk drummer that uses multible style at once while drumming even a single solo. Ray cant even tip to that. ray gets a heavy drumset of which he has to get everything out of.. David knew how to get the best out of even simple drums. where ray failed with ''my time / are you ready to live''
definitly! i just know that David would of done that song allot better. and that was kinda on a standard drumset. ray fucked the drumming up in that song.
DNME87 1 year ago
@gentx13 Yeah but you have to understand that there are actually people out there that like bands like Nickelback, Evanesence, Blue October, Creed, etc.... People ARE stoopid! Ray is the best frickin' drummer around. I like Josh Freese too.
TheMikoras 3 days ago
I watch ray videos with DLR when I do my van halen drum covers. He destroys!!
skydrumz 1 year ago
what song is this at 1:00?
jkarpy 1 year ago
David is a great drummer,... But Ray is by FAR a more technical drummer....
Norminaz 2 years ago 4
hot for the teacher
danea2008 2 years ago
fuck david he left korn without saying anything and never speaks to jon or munky or anybody, that asshole, im glad they got ray hes 10 times better anyway
1993clb 2 years ago 6
your right about david being an asshole but ray isnt better than david
LostPrototyp3 2 years ago
i think he is, you may not think so, but i do
1993clb 2 years ago 3
fair enough. i just think david was better for korn
LostPrototyp3 2 years ago 4
@1993clb
Ray is good, but don't talk in such disrespect about david, he made some sweet tracks with korn, sure, how he left korn is weird, but he was awesome, when i first heard korn had a new drummer, i thought: he gotta suck, simply because of the fact he wasn't david, but when i heard him, i took it back immidiatly , he is good, and so was david
Robbirdolierook 1 year ago
@Robbirdolierook Yeah, I'm not saying that david was a bad drummer, because david was incredible!! i'm just saying that i think it was wrong of him to just leave like that and just not give a shit about Korn or any of the band members anymore.
1993clb 1 year ago
He just feels what he plays and he feels the music.... one think many drummers don't care about! ... like his playing very much!
mmzdrums 2 years ago
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Dude can def play but he moves around like some fairy or some shit what the fuck is he doing? Kook.
chromeaddict 2 years ago
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chromeaddict 2 years ago
@chromeaddict love the way he moves. i suppose u like drummers who concentrate so hard they forget that how u play is as important as what u play. a musician is an entertainer at the end of the day
aaronalwines 2 years ago
name of the first song? :) please
pablus80 2 years ago
david silveria couldnt hold Ray Luziers ball sweat
GarytheIrishDrummer 2 years ago 4
I agree that Ray blows David out of the water, but better than both of them is former David fill-in and Faith No More drummer, Mikey Bordin.
Drratburn 2 years ago
i was kinda wishin they could've gotten him but i now he was workin' with ozzy at the time so it wouldn't have worked out but ray is a great addition to the band
SinistaMinista666 2 years ago
I totally agree. Ray is more than enough talent for the type of music Korn makes. I only meant that, judging SKILL only, Ray is not as good as Mikey Bordin.
Drratburn 2 years ago
i agree with that, i always thought that mike did one helluva job fillin' in when david got hurt
SinistaMinista666 2 years ago
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David was way better
santaschode 2 years ago
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hes my fukking cousin
TheScarfacefreak25 2 years ago
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hes no korn drummer. david 4 life.
Exalt4KoRn 2 years ago
fuck david he left without saying shit...i dont like whn pple do that so i dont like him anymore as much as i used to love him.....GO RAY AND GO KORN...next album gona rock
dellbar515 2 years ago 4
since when is ray the new drummer. i like him. and i agree with dellbar515. that was a big mess with david quitting korn
Huakatschuba 2 years ago 2
5:14 Ting! lol!
Rxwbeez 2 years ago
I know this guy from drumming on one of the best guitar instrumental albums 'Darren Housholder'. Immense drumming and insane guitar, try get hold of it.
7thSense07 2 years ago
oh yeah he is WAAAY better than david. by far. if only he could have started out with korn when they started. hes amazing. i saw korn play live back in april and they are insanly awesome with him as their new drummer
numetal1992lb 2 years ago 3
wow hes amazing!!!i also i think he is better than david
davidthewhite 2 years ago 5
what kit is he playing?????
jsk8drummer 2 years ago
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tconnor222 2 years ago
ddrum
tconnor222 2 years ago
i know its obviously a ddrum thats who hes sponsored by i was asking for the specific model
jsk8drummer 2 years ago
i think a ddrum dios kit
george5030 2 years ago
does anyone know what the song is that starts at 1:00 =0
Ellmarko 2 years ago
the original band is better
gaminguy123 2 years ago
Dam he kicks ass holy shit! =O
murderfase 2 years ago
he's a jazz fan, it's easy to tell by some bits in this solo.
eltonjesus69 2 years ago
nice lil van halen exerpt there at the beginning
MeatJackn 2 years ago
this drumer is.......is...... just a very FUCKING AMAZING!!!!! awdasdfajkl!!
IkORn90 2 years ago 2
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IkORn90 2 years ago
When I saw korn on their "bitch we have a problem tour", Ray was an absolutely outstanding drummer and also performer as he really really made his presence known even from behind that huge kit.
Perhaps the best drummer I've ever seen. This video is very much a compliment to that!
nocktapuss 2 years ago
I don't like his drumming. It's too rushed for me. David was more fluid and in perfect bliss and harmony with Korm.
choujidesu 2 years ago
choujidesu: If you believe this...you would be laughed at by the Korn community itself. David's drumming was horrible live and Jonathan Davis himself said on Modlife that they had to use programs to make David's drumming precisely on tempo for recording. They haven't had to do that with Ray, according to JD. David didn't have the passion for drumming for a long time...he even sold his drums when he quit Korn, if that's not a clear indication.
Ravok 2 years ago
so is that why alot of the old korn drum tracks are simple?compared to what ray's playing.
KGPED 2 years ago
Even if you listen to the Korn: Live in Montreux (2004) DVD, David doesn't play his OWN drum riffs properly. He just half ass does everything and it made Korn sound horrible for the longest time. (Not dissing the other members, but a drummer IS a crucial part to the sound of a band). Anyways, the point is Ray Luzier = God.
Ravok 2 years ago 2
From what you said, how is anyone supposed to develop the conclusion that Luzier is a deity? You were talking about David the whole time and then switched at the last sentence that Ray is God.
lactoseowen32 2 years ago
Maybe you should read more of the comments so you can further understand the situation.
Ravok 2 years ago
idk if anyone saw the live version if Faget w/ ray..but he threw some double bass tht wasnt in there b4...KoRn is going to kick more ass with him (not that david wasnt good) i just think that he got tired of it or ran out of ideas. this guys is fresh and a different style, it should b interesting to c the new album
KoRnOtEp666 2 years ago 3
yeah i agree that he could have got tired, but i dont think that he ran out of ideas. he actually did a pretty good job on syotos i think.
i mean yeah he played only rythm stuff on songs like coming undone, but he really went of on getting off and politics.
anyway im sure ray will blow the hell out of the next record, man, hes a maniac.
kornfuckingfan 2 years ago 3
You are correct, he was playing Hot for teacher.
RandomPurpose 2 years ago
I hung with Ray backstage at the David Lee Roth/Sammy Hagar tour and there isn't a more down to earth musician on the planet. The interview in Drumhead magazine gave him 12 pages and several full page ads for his endorsements. On top of it all, he is a phenomenal player who I also had the pleasure of seeing him tear up my drumset at one of my gigs. Awesome!!!!
scooterbone 2 years ago
SWEET
reyknivel 2 years ago 2
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he should of stayed with ocdp
Craig3786 3 years ago
kick ass!!!
rilone1020 3 years ago 20
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pura bulla
preinozo 3 years ago
pura paja
StraTooS 3 years ago
chanca latas
preinozo 3 years ago
1:08 what song is this?
burubara 3 years ago 2
Hideous Sun Demons - The Mummy
You can hear this song on Hideous Sun Demons myspace site.
viktorgrafika 3 years ago 21
No trust me, he will be their permanent drummer...he better! lol
kornkid89 3 years ago 16
He has the chops the groove is reminiscent of the early days. He adds that old familiar flavor that korn use to have.
LifeJuice90 3 years ago 5
OMG someone who feels the exact same as me. He really fucking does man korns drumming was lacking since follow the leader.. Even though issues is my fav record.. But the drums just werent there. This guy really brings the feel of self titleds drumming back. Just listen to Kidnap the sandy claws thats fucking badass.
blackgamen 2 years ago
Yeah he is a drummer that makes the guitars just so much heavier. He is like vinnie paul in pantera. Dime was an amazing guitarist but his tone wasnt a heavy tone so vinnies drums just made it crunch. Alot of bands are like that and I missed when korn was like that now they are like that again.
LifeJuice90 2 years ago
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or Joey Jordison in Slipknot :)
KoRnOtEp666 2 years ago
He sure does. I'm looking foward to hearing what he does in the studio with the three original Korn guys! What makes this even better, is that Korn is working with original producer Ross Robinson again. Get ready for a brutal sonic assault!
RelytNacnud18 2 years ago 2
It is official... i quote "In an interview with Star Central, it is now confirmed that Ray Luzier, once back-up band member of Korn, as of 2009, has now become a full time member of the band"!
This left David out and no hope for redemption....
Head is the the one with hope to redeem himself.... I hope he does... i still hope!!!!
ferchobitt 2 years ago 4
Head prob wont though :( he didnt leave korn for god or religion he left 4 his family cause it was just impossible by 2005 :( korn would be the shit again with him abnd davids sadly never coming back
cannibalonXthedead 2 years ago
did you happen to read his book by any chance? what you make is a good hypothesis. but he left for his family, AND religion.
curiousdwarf93 2 years ago
lmao no i didnt but i need to i saw fieldy's book outside the music section in barnes &nobels x] i need to read them
cannibalonXthedead 2 years ago
Hot for teacher, intro!!!!! Van halen!!!!
slipjack666 3 years ago 6
Who is going to be their drummer cause alot of people are tellin me that it isnt this guy?
SlipknotPwnsFace 3 years ago
this guy is their drummer now
everythingidontlike 3 years ago 15
oh shit, i cant play, that pisses me off
mrsiix 3 years ago
ignore that, i wanted to say , that i cant still play hot for teacher i cant find how it goes
mrsiix 3 years ago
WOW...his style is good!
54literz 3 years ago 4
Wow he should be a full member of KoRn !
theguyovermesucks 3 years ago 5
therefor, Korn must become better with their instruments^^ i like'em but members must have nearly equal skill...
MIND4eva 3 years ago
KoRn be better with their instruments? Fieldy was nominated a few years ago like the third better bassist of the world!!!! JD vocals, well that has no discussion, THAT MAN VOICE IS THE BEST IN THE METAL WORLD! Munkey by himself is a good guitarist but when he played with Head they were the best duo guitarist in the world (true fact according critics)
ferchobitt 3 years ago 3
see, this is the kind of talk that a band like KoRn deserves! thank YOU for tellin' it like it really is!
rndmfreAk 3 years ago