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  • very laggy ... I like android or symbian more

  • Thank God for Windows Phone 7

  • My HTC touch viva with 187Mhz is very bether , i dont lag on Start menu :)

  • watch my newly purchased Ciphone C6 Ver. 2 16Gig :)

  • this phone lags so bad...!! i have windows mobile i fell like throwing it out of the window getting a nexus soon

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  • reason they need honicone layout is because the screen on devices so far sucks..... compared to the type android and iphone phones (at least my guess)

  • iPhone and iPod touch....CAN'T BEAT THAT !!

  • zune xbox and windows os is great but windows mobile is a huge FAIL it looks nice but dsnt do a damn thing id even get a wak ass iPhone before i went windows mobile

  • @MrCierniu

    its beta so relax.. we will compare when the final release comes out

  • @MrCierniu I guess you own an iphone ...

  • Windows Mobile 7 needs to come out soon. I love Microsoft and most of their products.

  • this beta sucks the real winmo 6.5 is much better

  • which cell is that btw??

  • @Amityt0791 htc hd

  • This is a very very early beta of windows mobile 6.5, but newer builds such as 21xxx are ALOT more stable, and they are the ones pressent in the newer released HTC Imagio and Tilt2...But Honeycomb is gone, you might be able to get a CAB file to get it. I pretty much loving windows mobile 6.5, I remember I loved my dad's 6.1 HD, now I hate it :P Flick Scroll is just awsome

  • Can you please reply to me how and where I could install the windows mobile 6.5 (For Omnia i900) Pleaseee =S Reply with a complete guide if u may =)

  • cool... the owner of this video deletes critical comments!

    I posted beforehand:

    it's a very laggy user interface as you would expect it from microsoft. Just a bunch of new features added to the antique Windows Mobile Core... I'll stick to my iPhone.

    It's actually very funny... two years ago Steve Ballmer laughed at Apple and the iPhone... now they desperately try to copy it... even the name: iPhone --> myPhone (LOL). Can't Microsoft produce new ideas of their own?

  • you're absolutely right! I also think it's very laggy!

  • It's laggy because it's not a finished product when this video was made. If you buy a WM6.5 phone today it wont be laggy.

  • I've used Windows Mobile for years and it's not laggy? Where did you get that from? In this video it lags because it's not a finished product and the video itself is very old. If you've ever used a newly released WM6.5 phone you'd know that it's not laggy at all.

  • THEY CAN AND THEY DID.

  • I smell a ignorent macfag

  • @coulditbekronau

    no... just a frustrated former windows mobile user...

  • god dam thats slow!! compared to the iphone!!

  • It's not good, are they fckin stupid.

    They should have made the honey comb crap have different pages it would help out business people be more organized. Think about it when you get apps and all that stuff youll need to scroll aaaallllllll the way down.

    Tell them if you can it would be a great improvement!

  • Just put catalogs on there.. works good..

  • this if a fast interface like the iphone but i like 6.1 better. and whats up with the touchflo gone?

  • So where's touchflo?

  • i like the UI on the Touch pro 2 better than windows mobile 6.5

  • How do i get windows mobile 6.5 on my verizon xv6800??

  • how do i install the windows mobile onto my samsung omnia??

  • You'll need to find a ROM. I don't know where you can get them from, but HTCowners get them from xda-developers or elsewhere. You can try asking there; good chance somebody there owns one.

  • i am really looking forwar to the new windows mobile 6.5 version its going to be awesome

  • i don't like the honeycrap...it looks childish

  • honeyfagy sh i t SUCKS d ick...

    that sh i t AIND cool,i love windows bars, and "windows" windows ...

    this steals the nice professional look of windows mobile software

    6.5 is total failure...to me

  • Bring Back the HONEYCOMB!

  • is the honeycomb sticky on screen?

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  • suckkkkkkkkkkkk

  • i hate it when he says:

    "Hey Guys!"

    i mean what a douche

  • i hate it too

  • Beta is not a valid excuse for that laggy interface. Beta is supposed to be like a final release except for small bugs. This is a major down. It would not be very condonable even for an Alfa version.

    Too bad. I had hopes for 6.5, but MS failed to deliver yet again.

  • its a beta/alpha and thats pretty early...

    alpha - beta - RC - RTM - Final

  • Consider the fact that the 6.5 OS was released from MS, but the XDA Developers community modified it and made it work for this phone. HTC did not do this, and it wasn't professionally done, as it wasn't supposed to be done. The final version will be better, and there is now a handful of phones that work with 6.5, and keep in mind that this video was released February 18th. Its 6 months passed that date.

  • Thanks for the info.

    I wish MS started supporting capacitive touchscreens. The only OS that supports them (besides OS X) is Android. I don't count Blackberry with their Storm, that was a failure. HTC Hero looks nice, only major complaint - it's laggy as heck, though HTC promissed to fix it with software update. If WinMo and Android become as fast and smooth as iPhone, I'll be all over them. Multitasking and no ridiculous Apple app store approval process FTW.

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  • amen brother, u said it right godamnit, the fuck is wrong with ms, 1st vista now this, wtf bill.!!

  • not true at all, beta's can be the first release of a program, that is then built upon in further versions. plus, this is not a windows mobile 6.5 device, it is not designed to run 6.5

  • The video is actually titled alpha. I think he made a mistake in the video. If you didn't notice, this video was created in February. There have been many updates to WM6.5 since then that make it much more responsive.

  • I like the guy's voice, it's comfortable to listen to.

  • nerd

  • its laggy because of the beta ? beta is microsofts new favorite word nowadays. eyerything is in beta. This will be as laggy as shown in the vid when released. a beta and a final wont have a different UI...THEY JUST CAN GET IT UNLAGGED!!!

  • Thats a really retarded thing to say. You cant possibly beta test software

  • SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWLY!

  • LAWL! You know why they use a hexagonal shape for the start menu? 'Cause all the devices touchscreens, this shitload will run on, are crapalicious! LMAO!

  • I want touch flo 3d and 6.5 and no honeycomb but the iconic 6.1 style

  • just a noob question guys..please answer.

    Would installing wm 6.5 replace the current touch flo 3d interface of HTC devices such as my very own touch pro 2? i really like the current UI on my phone and I dont really see why the new look on the 6.5 would be any better in my own opinion.

  • when WM6.5 is officially release then HTC will release a update that will combine htc touch flo 3d and the WM6.5 UI.

    Its better if you dont install alpha version.

  • I have a custom ROM with HTC Touchflo late build with 6.5... runs as my production phone - fantastic.

  • Agh! D: I accidentally clicked one star. Meant to click five though! :D Great review. Sorry about that

  • i like the touch flo 3d better, it looks cooler. im going to buy the htc diamond 2, so will it be the same as he showed on the htc hd or what eva? or will it look different on the diamond 2?

  • where can u download the beta of 6.5 from?

  • what phone do you have? i have a tmobile wing and i got a rom from xda and it works alot better than what this one was showing. i like 6.5 better. the only thing i noticed was if i open explorer it sucks all my memory for programs up and i have to restart it to get it back to normal

  • I love how you WinMo lovers are like "will ship with really nice wallpaper.. yeah some sexy wallpaper probably a great feature for most people. yeah."

  • I wonder how HTC will intergrate Touchflo 3D with WM6.5?

  • Maybe they will do something new :o

  • Check also Slide rule on Iphone. It's pretty cool ...

  • i think on my phone i have like the first windows mobile i want to see if they can do an up date

  • dose it gooing to work with Htc touch pro 6.5??

  • Can i have the window 6.5 on my Samsung omnia i900?

  • I think so, why not?

  • I understand thats a "beta" version and it might might have bugs but it looks very slow. WindowMoblile have been in business for so long but they still don't know how to make a fast and proper GUI, they are trying to copy Iphone & still can't in terms of GUI and responsiveness. I have an Windombile device with 6.1, a blackberry & an Iphone. both blackberry & iphones are really easy to use. admitted the GUI on iphone is amazing accept not having flash sucks, i'm interested to see how the 6.5 is

  • You, sir, are incorrect!

    I have WinMo 6.5 on my T-Mobile Wing (A lot worse device than the one in the video) and it runs very smoothly. Scrolling works wonderfully, unlike in the video. This was just an early alpha, but the beta that I'm running works great, even on a real old phone like mine.

  • I'm defensibly correct from what I see in the video its a Fact it appears painfully slow and sluggish, I had the 6.1 pro and it was garbage thats why I ad to let it go. however I have not seen or tested the final version (6.5) to see how responsive and smooth it is. but i really doubt that its going to be even near as responsive and smooth as the iphone. but again we have to see it to believe it. :) by the way i'm not iphone fanboy because of many none sense restriction and lack of flash.

  • You have no justification to say that.

    The video was using a terribly alpha version of WinMo 6.5.

    I am running 6.5 and I can say with confidence that scrolling works smoothy and just like an iPhone. You have no experience to speak.

  • Is Windows Mobile 6.5 available for download?

  • not officially yet.. but the alpha version is!!

  • plz try to install into your iphone 3.0 firmware and tell us wm 6.5 slower or 3.0 firmware iphone... actually iphone slower, coz i tried both

  • do you have an iphone? They are not lighting fast you know. The commercials lie.

  • all your questions will be/have been answered at xda-developers

  • help i have a problem im instaled wm 6.5 in me treo 750 and i can`t run videos gp3 only media runs in me mobile i try recodering videos with me treo but don`t work gp3

  • xda developers rocks

  • fking niceeeeeeee

  • will we b able 2 use ringtones for text messages? n when will this release?

  • windows cheat codes (watch here) 10 second in to 1st video

  • may you helper me for download windows mobile 6.5 . where i find the download it full

  • Wait to see WM 7, than u can fuck ur iShit !

  • what are the system requirements for this?

  • Touch HD, Xperia X1, Touch Diamond 2 or Touch Pro 2 specs basically.

  • You guys at pocketnow are great. On the other side microsoft with their products is not ... unfortunately ... I have touch hd /blackstone/ and it is just LAGGY sometimes ... SOMETIMES ? what does it mean? Iphone is not laggy , never laggy... why device like htc touch hd with great procesor is ? The answer is windows mobile ... I want to see smooth motion on my device, i dont want to restart it every day ...microsoft ! do something!

  • you restart it every day?I have it and it doesnt lag anymore,I installed the new rom from the htc website,its seems to lag less,should try...

  • yh the new rom is alot better than this one especially the scrolling you should try it :)

  • In case you guys haven't noticed already. All the "big 3" mobile manufacturers are releasing 3 new touch phones this summer and they're all running the Symbian series 60 5th edition. Those are Nokia N97, Samsung i8910 Omnia HD, and Sony Ericsson Idou. In addition, the chairman of T-Mobile's parent company have announced that they'll not be producing WM units for contracted sales anymore, but that Google Android will be the "New Windows Mobile". I guess that's pretty much it for WM huh.

  • iPhone MacOS or Googles Android is much better than this ... wm really sucks

  • Very, Very, Very Slow :(

  • will there be rom update for treo 800 or htc mogul? i have both running 6.1 professional and this looks pretty cool if it gets much faster

  • the htc finger menus are still better than these

  • good review, but this device looks alot slower than the apple iphone in terms of interaction

    when you were moving your fingers over the hexagon buttons, it was lagging compared to the apple device

  • listen to the first few sentences, "beta of windows 6.5 from xda-developers"

  • its a beta!

    brains are not for sale

  • great video but windows 6.5 look really stupid

  • I like touch flo 3D a lot more. The only thing I like about 6.5 is the nicer 3D-like graphics.

  • It reminds me of windows 3.1 hehe.

    I'm done with Windows mobile It is still unreliable and will be.. I have HTC Touch HD paid over 1000 when came out .I compare it with with my wife Iphone and can't wait for next version os and hardware I'm going to be an Iphone user!

  • Windows mobile more advanced than iphone OS

  • So with the say HTC Touch Diamond2 or an HTC phone with Touch Flow 3D, will it run both TF3D and Windows Mobile 6.5? or will it only run one of them? and are you able to choose which you want to run?

  • both :)

  • The "little window in the center" does move!

    There are 2 ways of scrolling.you scroll the list ora you scroll the little window

  • i dont like the hexagon starmenu :( i bet it will slow down everything

  • I think that Standard Touch Flo 3D thath HTC Touch HD has is more interesting, this is quite boring :)

  • that was what i was going to say. i think the touch flo 3d is much more fluid, especially because touch flo 3d 2 is coming out and it will be better than the first

  • Why is Windows Mobile always so sluggish? *why i went for Android* Hopefully its solved in the final release.

  • I have really no idea why:

    I have the touch hd,it isnt fluent as iphone even though it has a very good hardware,maybe because its more business oriented full with programs;

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  • this wm 6.5 dont have touchflo interface huh?

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  • whens the official release of wm 6.5?

  • 2010

  • ef that, thats wm 7's release, 6.5 is supposed to be relseased sometime this year. but whennn

  • It will be released in June - July this year

  • i just read yesterday in an article that its going to be relseased may 11

  • Well, yes- but it's just the official launch event at Microsoft Tech-Ed 2009 in Los Angeles. The RTM will follow soon, and then a few higher-end devices may get an upgrade path.

    I'm just really anxious for "Pink" the WinMo Zune project. Hoping to see how well that goes.

  • Nice review, but the reviewer obviously hasn't used the standard HTC Touch HD with old WinMo 6.1. The software already on the HTC Touch HD is similar, with the scrolling, stop scrolling with a touch, 3D-like shaded bars etc.

    OK, so it'll be more official and through-out the actual OS & not just on the HTC based stuff.

    Whats SAD about WinMo OS is the stupid WHiTE backgrounds with BLACK text. So stupid & so ugly!

    Look at the HTC skin/Ui.. white text on a black background is so much Better!!!

  • will this work on the xperia x1?

  • beta or not - it's just made with ugly and disabled concept of UI.

    even it wil be sliding a bit smoother in Release Candidate version - all this disturbing unhumanous pop-up'ing crap will be the same.

    WM never again.

  • this is too slow.

  • It's a beta. It's not finished yet. He mentions that the finished version will work a lot faster.

  • i dont know , i think i didnt like it

    may be because i'm used to the old looking windows mobile but all i can say is that we have to keep up wz the cahnges

  • It's that slow because it's a hacked alpha, ace.

  • You are saying a lot of nonsense things!

  • What nonsense?

  • LoL the HTC Touch HD has 288mb of ram...

    Its just this is in the beta stage and its not very stable or fast.

  • That particular phone(HTC Touch HD) has about 288MB of ram. The reason it is slow is because its an alpha; there are still many bugs to work out.

  • Yeah, I heard there's a much faster version out. I don't know where I would find a video of that though.

  • You must be kidding me...

    Android is still lame, and iPhone is just fair, but Microsoft is really showing you can do worse than worst.

    The funniest part is "Now you can see more of the Today background"..

    WAKE UP ! We want to see information, not backgrounds.

    But some idiots at Microsoft think it's fun scrolling the Today screen with the finger like a stupid monkey just to see how many emails are in my inbox.

    WM never again.

  • wow thats pretty cool.. i just bought a samsung epix sgh-i907, will windows 6.5 work on it?

  • i really want to see 6.5 in Omnia *-* it's much faster than HTC

  • looks like zunes gui

  • when will these devices come to the us

  • Microsoft is sucking more than ever. I dot know how they have the guts to show this piece of software crap

  • apple sucks much much more than microsoft

  • I'm not saying microsoft sucks or anything like that, but it seems pretty slow..., i think they should work on it a little bit more., well its not the shipping version so i hope the "shipping version" would be better.

  • even tho this is just a alpha of wino 6.5 i can say it is gonna just be much better than the iphone but it really depends on the phone

  • btw, you call it beta, but the video title is alpha. Which one is it?

  • Please let me know how task manager works and if the X really does close the app.

  • +1 chars

  • Lol.. the file manager presentation failed. The whole scrolling thing was a big LOL.

    It's funny how he shown iPhone VS Windows Mobile - iPhone was snappy and simple... Windows was slow and buggy.

  • Its funny how you don't know wm 6.5 is in alpha and running on hardware not made for it and the iphone is over a year old and running on hardware designed for it. Judge it when its released.

  • what does brick your device mean

  • It's when your phone is unusable (software wont work), so the phone is like a "brick", can't do anything... therefore it's called "brick" the device.

  • sknaht

  • Haha that's cool very entertaining to watch especially when i'm at work right now! I need to start watching more of youtube. YOUTUBE has EVERYTHING!

  • Wait if you got windows mobile 6.1 when 6.5 comes can you like connect the phone to the computer and update it????

  • Yes but it may not be officially available from your phone's carrier; manufacturer.

  • Cant i run WM6.5 and Touchflo3d both at the same time???

  • you can if htc puts windows mobile 6.5 and touch fl 3d in their phones

  • Yes you can. But in this video there is just WM 6.5

  • I just don't get it, why anyone who does not like this sluggish and ugly WM gets negative thumbs down??

    Honestly I love WM6 and been using it for months and I HAVE NO IPHONE!, but why don't you have the courage to admit iphone is far smoother and better looking?

    We can only improve when we see and learn from the defects.

    WM is much slower and uglier than Iphone. Like it or not, It needs to be improved!

  • parsani people also have personal opinions u know

  • exactly! that's my point.

    In my opinion it is still not good enough. I believe Microsoft and manufacturers should improve their products so that users like me enjoy their WM. looking at iphone I always feel we are way behind it. and my complain is that Iphone came out 2yrs ago and it is a looooooooooong time for cell industry. How come WM devices can not compete yet?

    I would like my WM device to be as smooth and fast as Iphone, cause I don't like apple and I love being able to install WM apps

  • I don't know what you mean by "compete", but I thought Windows Mobile devices outsold the iPhone last year.

  • of course!

    but we are talking about Samsung+HTC+Sony+Imate+LG sales combined. by "compete" I mean function-wise.

    Do you really believe WM devices are as smooth and crash-free as Iphone?

    I love to see a device running WM that is way smoother and faster than Iphone

  • *Looks at Touch Pro* Actually, yes. The reason why iPhone appears so "smooth" is because it lacks multitasking; only one app can be used at a time. Open an app, go to the homescreen and open another one. Guess what? The app you opened previously will be closed.

  • You are mistaking my friend, Iphone does not actually close the apps, you can listen to your music and surf the web using safari. I experienced that even in the middle of a game if you go to the homescreen and open another app, once you go back it continues exactly at the point you left. What about scrolling? what about the excellent safari? what about fantastic photo album and multitouch? When do we get the same features on WM devices? How come even 650Mhz processor can not run WM smoothly?

  • The only app that seems to be able to run in the background is "iPod". Opera mobile is just as good as Safari. Touchflo 3D has a great photoalbum. Multitouch isn't really necessary.

  • Actually it has a 528 Mhz CPU.

    And the Windows 6.5 thats running on the HD is just a Beta version which is not even made for this device. It's like installing android on a Touch HD - it won't run smooth.

    This video is just about how the Windows Mobile 6.5 looks. Btw - It doens't look good. Let's wait for an all new WM7

  • i believe that problem will be updated in the next software update coming next month probably.

  • This looks promising if Microsoft can work out the speed so it runs faster. That's what pisses me off about the current Windows Mobile. It's just so SLOW!

  • i like WM but i think that honeycomb looks so tacky and bad. if you have a winmo phone, get the point ui home 2 interface it's so much better than this and TF3D

  • Yup - it's not an official beta. It comes from XDA-Devs as mentioned.

  • I've always been a fan of WM, and had several devices, but let's face it,

    not only there's no improvements, but WM6.5 destroyed the last things we cared for!

    take a close look it is not smooth at all, menu is pretty sluggish too.

    I don't buy the idea that it is not smooth because of the BETA version, from experience we know there would never be much improvements. take X1 as an example.

    Iphone came out two years ago and is still much better, no company could get even close,

    it's a shame

  • its not an official beta. xda developers supposedly made it

  • much better than 6.1...only if the menu was black hmmm hopefully its fully customisable