in the ur beloved apocrypha that says plainly the vanity of praying for the dead...as far as ur church authority goes..peter was never pope..matt 16 Jesus said peters confession was the rock which the church will be built upon..not peter..we c in gal2 that peters ministry was to the gentiles..did u know he had a wife(1cor9) and a son 1peter5..ur church was built upon a lie and has a false gospel and has no authority in Christ..reality check.
I hv rd that vs that tells u can pray for the dead. u ever notice how it doesnt say who said he was noble? it certainly isnt God. believe that..stop and think about what u r doing when u pray for the dead. if u pray for someone in hell, then ur saying God is harsh and unjust in their punishiment and u r praying against God. if someone is in heaven and u pray for them then u r saying God is witholding a good thing from them. either way u r accusing God..i hv done some research and thre is a vs
There is good and evil, light and dark, no grey area, if people try to bend God's rules to suit their own desires, it cannot work: God is not mocked: Gal. 6:7. Jesus is the Way the Truth and the Life. John 14:6. Notice that our Lord said 'the' way and not 'a' way. Jesus said to him, 'I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.' John 14:6. Read John 3:3 to find out how our souls can be saved.
Amen, I say to you my brother. For you had the courage to unveil the ignorance of the Protestant Reformers and bravely embrace the fullness of Truth that Christ revealed through His Church that he has instituted for the salvation of souls. Do not be afraid of those that contradict you, for you are supported with a growing family of a 1 billion + Catholics, who all strive everyday to be living witnesses of God's Good Message.
Jesus would be sad that his legacy,2000 odd yrs down the track is being debated and manipulated to such an extent.why not use this forum to debate who is going to go out and save the next child from forced prostitution,or is going to head down to the local homeless hangout to offer blankets,who will relieve a parent from the exhaustion of caring for an autistic child.This is how you spread the glory of God,by example not via lazy bible recitals.if you know it,do it.If u have wings fly. : )
@Mcstroke57 We do not pray to statutes and that is really stupid of you to say but yes we pray to saints because we ask them to pray for us and they like to pray for us because they are nice people who are alive in heaven. Jesus said He will not leave us orphans (Jn14:18) meaning He'll leave us Father's and John calls us his children meanings He's our Father. Jesus says Abraham is the father of all Jew's. There is a lot about Catholicism you don't know so plz go study Catholic doctrine
@LatinPrayers The Bible nowhere instructs believers in Jesus to pray to anyone other than God. The Bible nowhere encourages, or even mentions, believers asking individuals in heaven for their prayers.
"There is a lot about Catholicism you don't know" I know that Roman Catholicism is the most evil organization in the world and murdered MILLIONS. Also that the Pope is a sorry excuse for a human being who protects pedophiles and has blood on his hands.
@Mcstroke57 It is a sin for us Catholics to pray to statues and if you'd study scripture you'd see that God ordered Moses to put images on the Ark of the Covenant the angels seraphim and cherubim. You do not know a lot about Catholic doctrine. You should go study Catholicism and its origin. I did and that's why I converted. "Apostolic Succession" is key word... Go study Apostolic Succession at the least. Your claims are not based on real evidence but your own opinions.
@Mcstroke57 If god forids making images in Exodus 20.....why does he instruct them to make images of Cheribums for the top of the Arc of the Covenant in Exodus 25?
@Mcstroke57 What is the origin of the Bible? Fact: did you know that it was put together by Catholic bishops in the year 325 AD at the First Counsel of Nicaea and then was declared to be the Inspired Word of God then 50 copies were made by Catholic monks. Before they didn't have a Bible to interpret their faith and if they did they'd still look to oral tradition and what the Catholic Church taught. Most of the books that were not chosen were declared to be heretical. What if they chose wrong?
@Mcstroke57 Sounds like you are part of a non-christian cult. The trinity has been a part of Christian teaching since the earliest times. It is Biblical and orthodox.
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Avro Manhattan (1914--1990) was a writer and philosopher, primarily known for his criticisms of the Roman Catholic Church (see anti-Catholicism). Having covered various political topics throughout his career, Manhattan is perhaps best remembered as the author of several works analyzing the Vatican's role in world politics and global affairs.
Obviously the 1st century Church must have been in gross error because they weren't anything like the Protestant churches, right? Obviously, the founding Fathers of the Church must have been knee-deep in idolatry and against the very Word of God since they didn't confess and teach what Protestantism confesses and teaches, right? Consequently, it is very hard to say that anyone outside of Protestantism can truly be saved, right? No wonder Protestants are so prideful!
The RCC is a cult. I was raised in the RCC. The only way you would enter into that is if you really didn't know Christ in the first place. The RCC can be very convincing, because they can make up anything they want. Their Authority is the Pope and the Church, not Sola Scriptura. Where the RCC differs from the bible, the RCC claims Authority and they add to scripture. Just look at their Catholic Encyclopedia, lies piled on top of more lies to fit their eisegetical interpretation of scripture.
@personal011782 I'm not sure what drove you away from Catholicism, but it is objectively clear that it is the one Church than Christ founded, and left for us as the "pillar and foundation of truth" (1 Timothy 3:15). It is in the Catholic Church that we stand fast in the traditions handed down to us from the apostles, whether they are written or spoken (2 Thess 2:15). There's simply no getting around the fact that Catholicism is the first Christian Church. May God bless you and bring you home.
@Mcstroke57 Jesus says that he created one church, not multiple. We know from history that this Church had the same beliefs and structure that Catholicism does. Check out the Early Church Fathers - there are a few websites out there with their writings. If you need a link, let me know. Historians all agree that the Catholic Church is the first Christian Church, so if you'd like to take up a career in history and research it, be my guest. God bless.
@Mcstroke57 I don't intentionally ignore anything. However, you essentially ignored everything I said in my message. For a good look at the fallacy of pagan influence in Catholicism, check out this article:
catholic.com/tracts/is-catholicism-pagan
Why do historians agree that the Catholic Church is the first Christian Church, but you don't? Who's better equipped to answer that question?
@Mcstroke57 It doesn't. The Church was first known as "The Way", but people claimed to be a part of this Church and continued to believe heretical things, so the early Church Fathers named the Church Catholic, from the Greek according to (kata-) the whole (holos), which means universal. The name "Catholic" was already in widespread use by the turn of the first century.
Why do historians agree that the Catholic Church is the first Christian Church, but you don't?
Where is most of Christ's LIFE in the Bible for that matter? ALL AUTHORITY has been given BY Christ to His Church. What is BOUND in earth is bound in heaven.. These were the words given BY JESUS to Peter. When Peter was martyred under Nero in 67 AD, it was decided by Bishops of the Church to keep the seat of Peter in Rome after he died. He got to Rome in 42AD. Paul too was martyred under Nero in 64AD. He was beheaded. Find his beheading in the Bible. Find Peter's crucifixion there
PS, per my other mesg.. since all authority had been deigned by God to His Church and "what's BOUND on earth is BOUND in heaven", then TERMS, names etc are thus BOUND with God. (Mass, pope etc)
In TWO of Peter's non-biblical epistles (& yes, he DID write other epistles that arent contained in scripture just as there were other GOSPELS that arent in the Bible), Peter referred to THE CHURCH as "KATHOLIKOS", a Greek word to describe The Church meaning "Universal, whole, complete"
Your assembly isnt "THE CHURCH", though.. Your point? You poor fundies outside THE CHURCH of the Bible dont know any better. You lack sound knowledge of the scriptures, exegesis, Christian history, the fact that all of the apostles & Paul, Timothy, Titus, Philemon, Luke, Mark, Barnabus, Apollos, Linus (2Tim4:21), Clement (Phil4:3) etc, were all BISHOPS of THE CHURCH. 1Tim3; Tit1:7; Heb13:17; 1Tim5:17; 1Pt2:25, 5:1-5; 2Cor10:8; Tit2:15; 1Pt2:5,9; 1Cor11:2; 2Thes2:15, 3:6
@personal011782 You never really understood the Catholic faith or you would not have left it for a belief that the eary church would not recognise. The new 'reformation' beleif in sola scriptura is the reason why there are so many protestant denominations. The Catholic church put your Bible together.
The Roman Catholic Church teaches unbiblical doctorines like the Age of Accountability and celebrates Pagan holidays Like Christmas and Easter Also pray to Saints and Mary which is completely unbiblical.
@eberhartmatt Stand by what we have in common but be interested enough to read what you disagree with and you may be suprised to find that what you thought Catholics believe is actually different from what they actually believe.
1) Confessing to another human being is not unlike attempting to call a closed outlet store when you really should be calling corporate headquarters. In essence, a useless behavior, and a waste of time. 2) Communion is symbolic, not literal; a remembrance and a reverence. Because we frown upon cannibalism, as does God. Why? Because it is wrong. 3) Purgatory is not only an absurd myth, it is an unspeakable offense to Christ for believing that Calvary was not sufficient. Lose your delusion.
Jefferson, this regurgitating of anti-catholic polemic is not coming from you, rather it is what you are hearing from biased preachers and ill-informed authors. You cannot understand the true Church of Christ until you take off your modern-day preconceptions and recognise the Catholic Church of history founded directly upon St Peter and the Apostles by Our Lord Jesus Christ.
This was very beautiful, thank you for sharing. I am finding myself in the same dilemma at the moment with regards to family being protestant, however my boyfriend is Catholic and is helping me with the transition. I have never felt more drawn to a religion before, I feel I am truly on the right path. God Bless.
THIS FACT! The Catholic Church has always tried to keep the European as dumb possible. An example of this hiding of truth can be seen in the coverup of the Pedophile Priest and Gays that run the Catholic Church. The Spanish Inquisition, The Crusades, WWI, and WWII, all involve the Catholic Church manipulating, lying to, stealing from, and murdering the people of Europe. WWII is nothing but the Catholic Church and Rothschild using Ashkenazi Khazars(non-Semites/Zionist) for another Crusade.
"Check out my YouTube channel/playlists and websites for present-truth materials, Three Angels' Messages and God's last-mercy warning to His people in these last days.
Papacy = Antichrist / Little Horn / Beast from the Sea
Roman Catholicism = Whore of Babylon
Investigative Judgement has commenced in 1844 (1st Angel's Message)
Ellen G. White, 1827-1915 = End-time Prophet Sent of God
7th-day Sabbath = Seal of God
Sunday Worship to be Enforced as Mark of the Beast"
So you walk in to Roman Catholicism knowing nothing about it's history and are then lead to believe by a book with a mild apologetic to it? What kind of bible college and seminary teach no church history?
Why did you covert? Because you didn't know what Sola Fide meant in the first place as a protestant.
well i know what catholocism teaches and i know most of their teaching is unbiblical..Do you know that the rcc believes u dont necessarily have to receive Christ or believe the gospel. this is a false gospel to say the least. Do u know what paul says to those who have a different gospel. He says they should be accursed..praying to the dead is not only sinful it is pagan. So, ur testimony is suspect..i do research on the rcc so i know what im talking about it.
I'll state it to you too! The assembly that you belong to isnt even "The Church" of the Bible. You're part of the cascade of invented assemblies that popped up after Luther. These assemblies are not The Church of the Bible. Your assembly holds NO authority from God.
Your assembly doesnt even "FOLLOW" The Bible, a name for the collection of books given BY The Catholic Church in the 4th century after The Church COMPILED the scriptures to make up what's KNOWN AS THE BIBLE
@Fallschirmjaeger29 friend ur mistaken on all points..i suppose u want to ref matt 16 as Jesus starting the church on peter..u couldnt be more wrong. peters confession is what His church is built on..withiout it , we are a pitiful social club..i have pretty good proof too..for starters, peter never even acknowledges being pope and neither does any of his contemporairies. Scripture never even acknowledges peter traveling to rome..it was only jerusalem and babylon...
@SONOFGODALSO also..paul tells us his ministry was to the gentiles and peters was to the jews in gal 2..so u see he wasnt pope over the whole church....the Holy Spirit is the "vicar" of Christ.. and He alone testifies of Jesus...it seems ur salvation is tied up in a church..church doesnt save. Jesus does. in any case, there are many churches in Christ but one body..so one can be baptist nondenom etc and still be a believer in Christ ..what does Jesus say rev 2-3..Hear what the Spirit says to
@SONOFGODALSO Churches..plural...Jesus is the cornerstone not a pope..Jesus is the rock and the pope isnt..Paul tells us at thehead of every man is JEsus and not a pope..Paul warns us that to go beyond what is written and u will become puffed up..this is certainly true of the rcc and many in its congregation..Ultimately, whether the rcc is the church Jesus started is irrevelevant today because the rcc has departed from the true gospel..the rcc believes u dont have to believe the gospel or rcv
@SONOFGODALSO Christ as Lord in order to be saved..the rcc has a false gospel friend..this makes the tree and its fruit bad..and it cant produce any good fruit...this is according tothe bible..also,,the rcc has revised most of history so that it can gain power..modernday nicolaitans...
@SONOFGODALSO First the Holy Church, later the scripture, wholly compiled by the Catholic Church, Jesus never commAnded to write the Bible, the name is not even in the scriptures.
The assembly you belong to is not "The Church", though.. Jesus didnt begin His Church in the 16th century when the "reformers" began their cascade of invented "assemblies". Sure, you "think" the assembly you belong to is The Church. Jesus began His "CHURCH" and all of the apostles were Bishops. The entire NT was written by Bishops, & Paul, Barnabus, Luke, Mark, Philemon, Apollos, Linus (2Tim4:21), Clement (Phil4:3) were all BISHOPS! -> 1Tim3; Tit1:7; Heb13:17; 1Pt2:25;1Tim5:17
The Holy Spirit is not the vicar of Christ! The Holy Sp is GOD. A vicar is the same as a representative, or a "deputy" so to speak.. "a BISHOP is a representative of GOD" Tit1:7
THE POPE IS A "BISHOP" AND THE SUCCESSOR TO THE APOSTLE PETER!! You disagree. It doesnt matter. The "assembly" you belong to isnt even "The Church". You "think" it is. You belong to an "offshoot" of The Church, nor does your assembly hold any "authority" from God. Authority rests w/ Bishops. 2Cor10:8
@Fallschirmjaeger29 u r mistaken on all pts frnd..when Jesus sd upon this rock iwill build his church He was spkg of peters confession..w/o it the church is a pitiful social club..but i hv proof tho i doubt u care..in Gal 2 paul is contrasting his ministry w/peters.. he sd peters ministry was to the Jew only...this right proves peter was never pope..ultimately, it doesnt matter if peter was pope..the rcc has started preaching a false gospel..u rnt concerned but u should be..in the cat art841
@SONOFGODALSO and 847 it says there is more than one way to be saved..u can in ur own ignorance of the gospel or the cross and not rcv Jesus as Lord and still make it into heaven..this is a false gospel..Paul says those who have a false gospel shld be accursed..so again u need to be concerned..
Paul was A BISHOP IN "THE CHURCH".. He speaks of "the office of Bishop" in 1Tim3 & Titus 1:7.. Timothy and Titus were also BISHOPS of the Church. The entire NT was written by BISHOPS of The Church. In Acts when the apostles ordained others, they did so by the laying on of hands. This was "ordaining" others which stil occurs today. Who is YOUR Bishop? If you follow the Bible, you'll see that ordaining comes by a process of laying on of hands, AND that there's the OFFICE OF BISHOP
I'm not mistaken at all. Again, you have NO "authority". Your "private exegesis" is not the final word. In fact, your assembly is not even a recognized "Church". U belong merely to an assembly that is an "offshoot" of THE CHURCH. Your assembly was invented sometime in the last 500 yrs by someone. The fullness of the Christian faith comes thru the Body of Christ, His CHURCH. Christ is the HEAD and the faithful are His body. His CHURCH is tended by the successor to Peter, a BISHOP
@Fallschirmjaeger29 ur mistaken on most pts..i keep telling u this..paul was an apostle..he says it over and over..the Holy Spirit is the "vicar" of Christ. Jesus said He would send the Holy Spirit Who would testify about HIm and be our Counselor and Teacher..ur right in tht Holy Spirit is God..i noticed u never replied about the rcc's false gospel..this is an important point...it makes a tree good or bad..i will tell in the last days there will be a great apostasy..i think ur apart of that..
@SONOFGODALSO u shld also take a look at rev 17..the harlot is the rcc..the harlot has so many characteristics of the rcc it is shocking..lets talk about that...she sits on a beast that sits on 7 hills(rome)...she is rich cause she has a gold chalet..she is wearing red and purple(primary colors) of rcc leadership..she is drunk with the blood of the saints..noone has persecuted christians more than the rcc..note her end..she is destroyed..why wld u wnt to be apart of a church that has
@SONOFGODALSO systematically covered up for pedophile priests for decades maybe even centuries? it came to light recently that a priest wanted to go public with the abuse and ur church prevented him saying it was against church law....
It sad that there has been scandal in The Church. One case is too many, and these people will answer to Christ for sure, clergy or not. Yet, there are many similar cases in assemblies outside the Church in Christian "assemblies" too. In fact, a year ago there was a fundy preacher in the next county where I lived who was arrested for molesting kids and for child porn.
But see? You're a typical "pharisee" fundy. Again, your "assembly" isnt even THE CHURCH of the Bible
No, einstein, the "harlot" of Revelation is JERUSALEM.. In HALF of the OT it speaks of God's displeasure of His chosen people. I guess you dont read the OT do you? It spells it out in Ez16, namely Ez16:15. Read the whole chapter. Scarlet, purple, gold, jewels, incense --> ALL in the OT regarding Jerusalem. "Come out of her "is Isa 52
Jerusalem sits on 7 hills: Mounts Acra, Bezetha, Gared, Goath, Moriah, Ophel & Zion. You dont know any better. You're a typical fundy sychophant
When reading the bible, you should remember that the authors did not divide their work into chapter and verse - the church did. Realize then, that rev 18 is a continuation of Rev 17, and you will clearly see that that babylon is ancient Rome in that section. Note the items of trade - horses, chariots etc, and the account of the great city burning. Ancient Rome burned in 64 AD.
"noone has persecuted christians more than the rcc" ??? Try ancient Rome - much better fit.
Well, actually Revelation is re: Jerusalem. Scarlet, purple, gold, jewels etc can all be traced back to Exodus. Refer to chapt 28 on ..
Also, the whore is Jerusalem. Ezek16 (16:15). Chariots, horses, trade, fine linens, wax, wood, incense etc etc can all be found in the OT. God blessed HIs people with an abundance of riches but Jerusalem eventually became a cesspool. In fact, about half of the OT is God's displeasure of Jerusalem
There are parts of Revelation that indeed refer to Jerusalem; but not that particular part. And yes, there are many cities that sit on 7 hills.
Ancient Rome was the center of world commerce at the time. Remember too that a third of ancient Rome burned to the ground in 64 AD, fully in harmony with Rev 18. Nero blamed the Christians for that fire and tortured them mercilously in revenge.
BTW Rome had a bad habit of catching fire - again in 69AD and yet again in 80AD.
True, Rome was a commercial center, however, so was Jerusalem. In the OT, gold, jewels, wood, wax, incense, scarlet, purple, horses, chariots etc can all be found regarding Jerusalem.
In Ezek16 (16:15) it tells of "the woman" & "the whore"..Read that chapter. Plagues are ch. 14. Rome never received a plague in the Bible. Jerusalem did. Also later in Rev it speaks of a "new" Jerusalem.
"Come out of her" is Isaiah 52. Jerusalem is definitely the depicted city on 7 hills in Rev, not Rome
I don't think we can be absolutely sure which city Rev 17 &18 refers to. Bible scholars can't even agree. Many cities were referred to as Great City and Babylon - both Jerusalem and ancient Rome, among others. Fact is, not that long ago, I argued for Jerusalem myself, and I reserve the right to change my mind again:) I would have mentioned that if weren't for the 500 letter limit in last post. One thing is for sure though, it isn't referring to modern day Rome or the RCC!
The Holy Spirit is not the "vicar of Christ".. This is precisely WHY you're NOT the "final word" on matters of scriptural exegesis. The CHURCH is the final word, and NO, your "assembly" is NOT the Church. You "think" your assembly is the CHurch, but Christ Himself will tell you that your assembly is not the Church. You belong to an invented "assembly" that someone began in the lastr few hundred yrs.
The pope is the successor to Peter. Christ put Peter in charge to TEND His Flock
Nowhere in the Bible have I ever read Paul stating that the HS was the vicar of Christ. He CANT. He and Christ are ONE in the same as God. Jesus is NOT the Holy Spirit and the HS is not Jesus, but theyre ONE. The HS is not Jesus' "deputy representative", which is what a vicar is. . Jesus explicity told Peter in Jn21 to "tend His flock". When Peter was martyred, Linus (2Tim4:21) succeeded him. Clement of Phil4:3 was Peter's 3rd successor. Benedikt today is the 265th successor
Im part of the great apostasy, eh? Guess what, chief? I'll state it again: Your ASSEMBLY is NOT THE CHURCH OF THE BIBLE! You have ZERO, repeat NO AUTHORITY GIVEN TO YOU FROM GOD. NONE. Not you, not your "preacher", not I, not ANYONE has "authority" from God except for the person who holds the Keys. That person is a BISHOP and Peter's successor. You disagree.. It doesnt matter. You're not even "of" the true CHURCH Christ began. He'll even tell you that. You people dont know better
Im not mistaken on anything that i write. You're not even "OF" the Church! Why should I believe how YOU interpret scripture? LOL! Ur certainly well intentioned, but you have no authority, and as such what you produce is merely "private interpretion" of the Bible which is prohibited. In 2Pet1:20, 3:16, Peter states "no part if scripture is for PRIVATE interpretion and ... the UNLEARNED distort the sctures to their own destruction"
You're wrong. Jesus ORDAINED all of His apostles as Bishops. He appointed Peter to be the head Bishop among the apostles.
You all think the Bible fell outta the sky, dontcha? The BIBLE was named "The Bible" by THE CHURCH. The Bible came about from the yrs 384-397 AD. The BIble was ratified in 419 by Bishop pope Boniface I.. Which books got omitted? Didja know that in TWO of Peter's non-biblical epistles that he referred to "THE CHURCH" as "Katholikos"? --> Greek for "Universal"
The Catholic Church CANT preach a false gospel --> it is the CHURCH which is divinely protected by the Holy Spirit.. In fact, the apostles & Paul HAD NO WRITTEN gospel when they preached the gospel. The "written" gospels werent even out! This is called Sacred Tradition, which is NOT to be confused with "human" tradition. Sacred Tradition is also the word of God. In fact, the BIBLE could not have been written WITHOUT Sacred Tradition.. 1Cor11:2, 23, 15:3; 2Thes2:14-15; Gal1:11-12
I'm not wrong on anything I have written. Your assembly is not THE CHURCH. You hold no authority deigned to you from Jesus.Neither you, nor your preacher, nor I hold any authority from God unless that's been given by HIM.
Jesus deigned His authority to His apostles who were the 1st Bishops. Who is Linus of 2Tim4:21? You dont know do you? How about Clement of Phil 4:3?
How did Mark write his gospel if he wasnt an apostle? Luke also? You people OUTSIDE THE CHURCH dont know
When Matthew wrote his gospel, he wrote it in Greek. In Mt16:17-19, when Jesus tell Peter, "Peter I give YOU the Keys to the Kingdom", the "you" in this gospel which Matthew writes is in the 2nd person singular of "you" which in Greek is spelled differently than the plural of "you", thus singling Peter out to have the Keys. If Christ meant for all of the apostles to have the Keys, Jesus surely wouldve made this known and the Greek spelling would have been different in the gospel
It's been almost 3 years, but this testimony is extremely powerful. I went through a similar type of conversion over the past 3 years, but from Secular Atheism to Roman Catholicism. Your arguments are convincing and your testimony here, powerful. God Bless you and your family.
How sad a person goes from "protestantism," to Catholicism. to go from faith alone, grace alone and Christ alone to a system of bondage and works what a terrible story. "I marvel ... removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed
@citizenfitz no sad for you if your trusting in your "good works," to save you or keep your salvation you'll be judged by your "works," and no one well get into heaven by their works "for all have sinned and come short of the glory of God." Rom. 3:23
The assembly you belong to isnt even "The Church" of the Bible, though. The apostles were the 1st Bishops of the Church. Peter presided over the other apostles as the chief apostle per Christ's words in Mt16:17-19 & Jn21:15-18. Refer also to Peter's words in 1Pt2:25; 5:1-5. Paul tells of the office of Bishop in 1tim3; titus1:7. An elder is a Bishop. Read Paul's words in 1Tim5:17; Heb13:17. The pope is a Bishop, so is a cardinal. In 2 of Peter's non-biblical epistles he wrote "katolikos"
@Fallschirmjaeger29 1 Peter 2:25 "Shepherd and Bishop of your souls," read the verses before that, who is it talking about Jesus Christ or Peter? Jesus is the Good Shepherd and Bishop of our souls not Peter. Back up to verse 9 Peter is talking to fellow believers "ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation." When has the Pope ever called you Catholics "a royal priesthood, an holy nation," NEVER. "In 2 of Peter's non-biblical epistles," Peter never wrote them their frauds :)
no it isnt. That's what you're taught to believe. In fact. Your denomination only was invented in the last coupla hundred yrs. The apostles were all divinely ordained.. "It was not you who chose Me, rather I chose you AND I ORDAINED YOU" -Jesus, Jn15:16.
ALL of the writers of the NT, cbat, WERE BISHOPS IN THE CHURCH! In fact, Mark accompanied Peter from Antioch to Rome in 42 AD and compiled his gospel based on Peter's sermons in Rome. Didja know that? Mark was bishop of Alexandria
All of the apostles were Bishops. Paul was a bishop. So were Timothy, Titus, Barnabus, Clement (Phil 4:3), Linus (2Tim4:21), Philemon etc etc.. There were other gospels not included in the Bible. There were other epistles not included. In 2 of Peter's NON-BIBLICAL epistles, he referred to THE CHURCH as "Katholikos". Ignatius of Antioch (Bishop & martyr) used the term "Katholikos" in most of his writings c. 105-110AD. This is Greek for "Catholic" meaning "universal, whole, complete"
@Fallschirmjaeger29 you've just showed your authority is not the Bible, it is in MEN, Linus and Clement are never called apostles in anywhere in the Bible, your just proving Romanism is the oldest cult in business, "my denomination," which you dont know what it is, follows Bible believing Christianity, their has always been true christians, "Waldensians, Albigensiens, Cathars, Paulicans, ect. read some history by others instead of a bunch of Jesuits. your puny mantras "no it isn't." meaningless
@cbat36 Jesus gave MEN (St. Peter) the authority to infallibly interpret Holy Scripture. The Bible itself is an inanimate book that can do nothing until someone picks it up and begins to INTERPRET the Word of God. The Bible is very important, but if us Sinners are allowed to interpret it any way we want, we are bound to make errors, which is the ENTIRE HISTORY of the Protestant Heresies.
Christ created his Universal (Catholic) Church upon St. Peter and gave it all authority.
@drdst17 Are you claiming that Peter was sinless? Are you claiming that the Magisterium is sinless? no they aren't "all have sinned and come short of the glory of God." Rom. 3:23 only Jesus was without sin and that's because he is "God manifest in the flesh," 1 Tim. 3:16. Your in a cult because you follow a man The Pope I follow God. Christ is the foundation of the church not Peter Jesus said "Thou art Peter and upon THIS ROCK I will build MY church." Matt. 16:18.
@drdst17 cont. Did Jesus say Upon You I will build my church? No he said Upon THIS, then later he said MY church so it's Christ's church not Peters, your just parroting what the Magisterium would have you believe. The Holy Spirit is our teacher we dont need a man to teach us anything, "Ye need not that any man teach you," 1John 2:27
@cbat36 Your interpretation is incorrect. Jesus EXPLICITLY called Peter the "rock" upon which he would build His Church.
You purposely take Biblical Quotes out of context and twist them to fit your worldview, which Protestant Heretics have been doing for the past 500 years.
And it is better to "parrot" the Magisterium which has Christ's authority, than to follow some other Heretic or our own interpretations. The sin of arrogance is strong in you.
@drdst17 "the sin of arrogance is strong in you," I quote the Bible and you call me arrogant? your problem is with God not me, you need to resort to Ad Hominem attacks, you haven't stated how those Bible verses are wrong, so You Romanists are the Hereticks not us Bible believers I actually believe the Bible you dont you accept only Church tradition and what THEY TELL YOU IS TRUE, so you are therefore in a CULT
@cbat36 Matthew 16:18, when Christ gave Peter the Keys to the Kingdom of Heaven and created His Church. The Church, centered on the Bishop of Rome as Peter's successor, has ALL AUTHORITY in determining the truth of Sacred Scripture. The Bible Alone (sola scriptura) theory is pure and utter heresy and defeats the virtue of FAITH by adhering to one's own private interpretation of Scripture.
You heretics do not "follow" the Bible: you JUDGE it with your own interpretations. That is not "faith".
@drdst17 you haven't answered my questions, you have resorted to name calling, and parroting typical Romanist interpretations. PROVE PETER is the BISHOP OF ROME! PROVE PETER WAS EVEN IN ROME! In Acts chap. 15 James the half brother of Jesus made the final decision not Peter answer that. But again your silence says everything Ignored my question of where the Magisterium is in the Bible and 1 John 2:27 which states that we dont need a man to teach us The HOLY SPIRIT is our teacher, I believe that!
It doesnt HAVE to be in the Bible that Peter was in Rome! Not all of Jesus did is in the Bible. Does that mean they didnt take place? The martyrdoms of the apostles arent in the Bible. Does that mean they didnt take place? Which was the only apostle to escape martyrdom and where? This isnt in the Bible. Did you know that the epistles came out before the written gospels? Why are they parked BEHIND the written gospels of the epistles came out FIRST? Who decided this arrangement, scholar?
@Fallschirmjaeger29 thats right keep ignoring 1 John 2:27 you Romanists cant handle the truth, "And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven." answer that Papist? "a certain woman ""(first recorded Romanist)"" of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked. But he said, Yea RATHER blessed are they that HEAR the WORD OF GOD, and KEEP IT." Luke 11:27-28. Answer that Papist?
Jesus never said that the "authority" was the Bible. The term Bible came out in the 4th century, and guess what? The name Bible was given by THE CHURCH. cbat, your assembly is not even a recognized CHURCH in the eyes of God. Yes, He has a place for people in assemblies on the outside since He is a God of love, but Jesus didn't begin your assembly. At some point after so called "Reformers" of the 16th century came along, the cascade of "invented" denoms sprang up. These arent The Church
@ conspunk: Atheism is NOT a religion! You are showing your ignorance, dude. Religion, by definition, involves a belief in god(s). Atheism is the LACK of belief in god(s). Therefore, atheism is not a religion.
You prayed in the bathroom? You prayed where people take a dump, pee and god knows what else? ewww... why didn't you go somewhere else where it was cleaner?
The National Socialist Movement has wrought this miracle. If Almighty God granted success to this work, then the Party was His instrument.
-Adolf Hitler, in his proclamation to the German People on 01 Jan. 1939
[I] never lost my belief, in the midst of setbacks which were not spared me during my period of struggle. Providence has had the last word and brought me success.
Did I just R-O-L-LLLLLLLL YOU!!!?? Oh yes I did!!!
Why don't you want to talk about Hitler's religion anymore? Is it because I PROVED from his own mouth that he on many many times said he was Christian and that the Nazi Party is fighting FOR Christianity?
Oh yes!!! Handle the truth bitch!!! Smell it!! It smells goooood.
" We tolerate no one in our ranks who attacks the ideas of Christianity... in fact our movement is Christian. We are filled with a desire for Catholics and Protestants to discover one another in the deep distress of our own people."
-Adolf Hitler, in a speech in Passau, 27 October 1928, Bundesarchiv Berlin-Zehlendorf, [cited from Richard Steigmann-Gall's The Holy Reich]
To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before in the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice.... For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people....
-Adolf Hitler, in his speech in Munich on 12 April 1922
"The Party, as such, stands for positive Christianity, but does not bind itself in the matter of creed to any particular confession. It combats the Jewish-materialist spirit within and without us."
- Point 24 Programme of the German National Socialistic Party.
In the Bible we find the text, 'That which is neither hot nor cold will I spew out of my mouth.' This utterance of the great Nazarene has kept its profound validity until the present day.
"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter.... In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders."
-Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942)
No one in the history of mankind has been killed in the name of atheism. Using your logic it was Hitler's Christianity that lead to him killing so many people.
Sorry but you are fucking retarded.
And I CBF looking up how many Albigensians were killed but the Pope at the time bragged that he had burned 20,000 men women and children at the stake in a single day, he was actually thrilled by it.....
No problems. I seriously can't wait to have my way with that whore! Wanna do tag team? Oh wait no, you're probably a bt itchy down there... nevermind.
I went to the lab for 3 hours and I come back and you've flooded me with stupid replies. This alone proves you are some fat uneducated 40y.o retard in his Mum's basement.
How can you NOT look at Mary Magdelene and not want to penetrate her sexually? She is the Pagan goddess of fertility for crying out loud, the biggest slut mankind has ever conceived of! I went to a college run by Opus Dei and they has a statue of her in the common room, I used to invisage stripping her naked, bending her over the altar and having my way with her. Then she would give birth to some great immortal being, and that would make me GOD. xD
I have posted more than one study, all of them by legitimate sociological journals.
You see, in academia, unlike religion, you can't publish bullshit as it will never be accepted by a legitimate journal. The study needs to contain objective PROOF, which if nyou read the articles they provide all the data from which the conslusions were drawn. This is why I base my worldview on science and intellect, not "faith" and Bronze Age mythology like yourself.
Who cares if France has riots, that means absolutely nothing.
Sweden was actually very Christian back then, as was most of Europe. Plus they had every moral right to stay out of the war and no-one knew the extent of the deaths until the end of the war. Idiot.
It doesn't matter that Japan recognized Confucianism because it's not even a religion, it's a philosophical system of ethics. Idiot.
I would much rather be nerdy and STD-free than a poorly educated religious zealot with syphilis and child maintenance.
I love how you got caught on your own lie, saying that theists were more moral, then I pull out the studies and expose you as the ignorant fool you are. LOL.
"Indeed, the data examined in this study demonstrates that only the more secular, pro-evolution democracies have, for the first time in history, come closest to achieving practical “cultures of life” that feature low rates of lethal crime, juvenile-adult mortality, sex related dysfunction, and even abortion. The least theistic secular developed democracies such as Japan, France, and Scandinavia have been most successful in these regards."
Slandering and lying about the author of the paper won't change the facts idiot.
You want some more proof?! OK.
"Higher rates of belief in and worship of a creator correlate with higher rates of homicide, juvenile and early adult mortality, STD infection rates, teen pregnancy, and abortion."
Gregory, P.S. (2005). Cross-National Correlations of Quantifiable Societal Health with Popular Religiosity and Secularism in the Prosperous Democracies, Journal of Religon and Society 7.
I don't need you to show me any studies, because I have them right here:
"Sociologist Phil Zuckerman analyzed previous research on atheists and morality, and concluded that the more atheists and agnostics there are in a society, the more moral it is."
Zuckerman, Phil (2009). "Atheism, Secularity, and Well-Being: How the Findings of Social Science Counter Negative Stereotypes and Assumptions". Sociology Compass 3 (6): 949–971.
I have about 100 of these studies to back it up... :D
I can't wait til Jesus comes in his spaceship, I am going to strap him downm backards on the cross and force my fist covered in broken glass fown into his tight unwilling rectum until blood and fecal matter starts to spurt out around the sides. This is called "Voltaire's angry glove".
Because those are the ONLY definitions that are within the context of what we are talking about.
I will be just as retarded as you for a second:
'OMG! You "sacrifice" youselves to Jesus, that must "slaughter an animal or person", that's a definition of sacrifice, not in context but I''m conspunk and I'm retarded so that doesn't matter!'
Religion: "the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power , especially a personal God or gods."
Faith: "strong belief in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual conviction rather than proof."
What you're saying is that when someone refuses to believe there is some invisible man in the sky that that is "faith". I don't think I've ever heard such crap in my life.
Atheist follow objective testable reality; SCIENCE, not 'faith'.
..a religion, with clearly defined rules, eschatology and a philosophy by which to live. Religion is a means of understanding our existence.
Does atheism have anything approaching "clearly defined rules?" Not in the least. There is only one "rule," and that is the rule of the definition of "atheism" - not having any belief in any gods. Other than that, atheists are free to do whatever they want and still be called atheists.
I already answered your retarded question: 'Darwinism doesn't disprove "God" in general, but it DOES prove the Bible is a load of shit.'
And no matter how much crap you post it won't lend any authenticity to your bizarre claim that atheism is a religion, but then again talking sense to someone who is in the depths of religious psychosis is utterly pointless.
So if you don't have anything to say other than that, please don't talk to me.
Do you know where Mary Magdalene is? I need to rent a prostitute but don't have much money so I was thinking she might do it for a couple of sheckles more than it costs to buy dog food...
You haven't even said what "God" means in this context. Darwinism doesn't disprove "God" in general, but it DOES prove the Bible is a load of shit.
Atheism: from Greek atheos, from a- 'without' + theos 'god'. There is no "faith" or belief system in atheism; nor does it have clerical hierarchies, sacred narratives/history, traditions, laws, an explanation of the meaning of life, congregations, initiations, rituals, prayer........ it's the very opposite of a "religion".
I refuse to reply to you because I am far too sick of talking to stupid people.
You don't even know what atheism is, use a bloody dictionary.
And no I don't agree with Darwins assessments of races because I am a Neo-Darwinist, I take Darwin's work in the context of modern science, and modern science shows races do not even exist, it is merely a social construct.
Now please either pick up a dictionary or stop talking to me.
Mary is a filthy whore, and if I could I would get a whole heap of fetuses, crucify her on a cross but this time backwards, and kick the fetuses up into her calloused dry-rot vagina while Cher sings "if I could turn back time". Anyone with me??
The Illuminati, who sold their souls for Lucifer, have an obligation to teach the world the wrong names of the Trinity. The purpose of this is so you condemn yourself upon judgment. When Christ asks "Who do you say that I am?" make sure and tell others to answer, :"You are God."
If you give the Illuminati answer, "You are the son of a talking fire (the Lord)," you will quickly find out what Freemasonry has done to you and you will have an eternity to think about it. fatimamovement d o t c o m
“May our cries of pain always be accompanied by faith, by hope and by the witness of our love of God. I also express my hope, that there will be an end to hostility and prejudice against the catholic church”
READ 1TIMOTHY CH 3 BISHOPS ARE TO HAVE 1 WIFE AN RULE THERE FAMILY AND HOUSE WELL BUT THERE NOT ALLOWED TO GET MARRIED IN THE VATICAN1TIMOTHYCH 4 SAYS FORBIDDING TO MARRY IS THE DOCTRIENS OF DEVILS. READ IT AN YOU DECIDE
Catholic are christians, please dont say that Catholics are not christian because is ignorance and just show your religion is anti-catholic and that is really bad.
The Catholic Church comes before the Bible. If you protestant can read the Bible today say thanks to the Catholic Church.
And your convertion is extremely connected with the wat yiu treat the onces that are differents than you.
I am a catholic, already have been a protestant but the day you stop to study...is impssible to continue protestant, because of studying I became catholic back.
Catholic means UNIVERSAL, so we are Catholic Christians, as in, UNIVERSAL CHRISTIANS, because are Christians who follow ONE FAITH, for we are ONE, HOLY, CATHOLIC, and APOSTOLIC.
We are the ONLY Christian Church that existed in the tenth century, fifth century and first century
and when he had found him, he brought him to Antioch. And for an entire year they met with the church and taught considerable numbers; and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch.
You would rather be a Christian instead of Catholic? That does not make any sense.
Catholics are Christians. What you meant was that you would rather be a Protestant Christian instead of a Catholic Christian.
The term Catholic was first used round the turn of the first century AD. It was used to describe the unity of the local congregations. It quickly was used to describe the true Church from the heretical.
Thank you for sharing your story. I liked the part about your experience with the rosary. I had a similar experience too. One night during my family reunion trip I got a high fever and my throat was hurting so bad that it felt like a knife was piercing it. That night I wraped my throat around the blanket and prayed the Hail Mary prayer over and over until I fell asleep. I woke up the next morning to find that my throat was better and my fever was gone. May GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY!
These set of videos must be the most tragic I have ever seen. You use the language of truth and you were raised in truth, but have turned to the lies of a church that has turned away from the truth of Scripture. Your fellow RCs will have the excuse that they did not know any better but you will not have that excuse. May God in his mercy, love and Grace remove the scales from your eyes and bring you back to the truth you were brought up with. God Bless.
The sorcery of isis with her "panic beads" has bewitched you. Was it really that easy for them to get you to observe heathen traditions such as lent, rosary beads and icon/image devotion? Sounds like they first sparked your interest with their pomp and pagentry, some people are just naturally inclinded towards that stuff while others of the mind of Christ reject it.
in the ur beloved apocrypha that says plainly the vanity of praying for the dead...as far as ur church authority goes..peter was never pope..matt 16 Jesus said peters confession was the rock which the church will be built upon..not peter..we c in gal2 that peters ministry was to the gentiles..did u know he had a wife(1cor9) and a son 1peter5..ur church was built upon a lie and has a false gospel and has no authority in Christ..reality check.
SONOFGODALSO 1 week ago
I hv rd that vs that tells u can pray for the dead. u ever notice how it doesnt say who said he was noble? it certainly isnt God. believe that..stop and think about what u r doing when u pray for the dead. if u pray for someone in hell, then ur saying God is harsh and unjust in their punishiment and u r praying against God. if someone is in heaven and u pray for them then u r saying God is witholding a good thing from them. either way u r accusing God..i hv done some research and thre is a vs
SONOFGODALSO 1 week ago
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There is good and evil, light and dark, no grey area, if people try to bend God's rules to suit their own desires, it cannot work: God is not mocked: Gal. 6:7. Jesus is the Way the Truth and the Life. John 14:6. Notice that our Lord said 'the' way and not 'a' way. Jesus said to him, 'I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.' John 14:6. Read John 3:3 to find out how our souls can be saved.
KingdomSeeker2012 1 week ago
Amen, I say to you my brother. For you had the courage to unveil the ignorance of the Protestant Reformers and bravely embrace the fullness of Truth that Christ revealed through His Church that he has instituted for the salvation of souls. Do not be afraid of those that contradict you, for you are supported with a growing family of a 1 billion + Catholics, who all strive everyday to be living witnesses of God's Good Message.
borromc1 2 weeks ago
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@borromc1 Open your eyes to the truth and seek the Lord only without any denomination.
Roman Catholicism is the most evil organization in the world that murdered innocent people and abused who knows how many children.
Your "Pope" is lier,sinner and a sorry excuse for a human being who protects pedophiles and has alot of blood on his hands.
Mcstroke57 1 week ago
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Jesus would be sad that his legacy,2000 odd yrs down the track is being debated and manipulated to such an extent.why not use this forum to debate who is going to go out and save the next child from forced prostitution,or is going to head down to the local homeless hangout to offer blankets,who will relieve a parent from the exhaustion of caring for an autistic child.This is how you spread the glory of God,by example not via lazy bible recitals.if you know it,do it.If u have wings fly. : )
sped1407 2 weeks ago
Delayed though it may be, Welcome Home :D
Pax et Bonum
redbaron998 3 weeks ago
The Roman Catholic Church teaches unbiblical doctorines like the trinity and celebrates Pagan holidays like Christmas
Catholics pray to Saints and Mary which is completely unbiblical.
Catholics bow down before images and statues and pray to them !
Catholics have Sunday as the Sabbath.
Catholics disobey the Bible by calling the priest "Father." (read Matthew 23:9)
CATHOLICS CHANGED GOD'S COMMADMENTS !
Mcstroke57 3 weeks ago
@Mcstroke57 We do not pray to statutes and that is really stupid of you to say but yes we pray to saints because we ask them to pray for us and they like to pray for us because they are nice people who are alive in heaven. Jesus said He will not leave us orphans (Jn14:18) meaning He'll leave us Father's and John calls us his children meanings He's our Father. Jesus says Abraham is the father of all Jew's. There is a lot about Catholicism you don't know so plz go study Catholic doctrine
LatinPrayers 3 weeks ago
@LatinPrayers The Bible nowhere instructs believers in Jesus to pray to anyone other than God. The Bible nowhere encourages, or even mentions, believers asking individuals in heaven for their prayers.
"There is a lot about Catholicism you don't know" I know that Roman Catholicism is the most evil organization in the world and murdered MILLIONS. Also that the Pope is a sorry excuse for a human being who protects pedophiles and has blood on his hands.
WAKE UP !
Mcstroke57 3 weeks ago
@Mcstroke57 It is a sin for us Catholics to pray to statues and if you'd study scripture you'd see that God ordered Moses to put images on the Ark of the Covenant the angels seraphim and cherubim. You do not know a lot about Catholic doctrine. You should go study Catholicism and its origin. I did and that's why I converted. "Apostolic Succession" is key word... Go study Apostolic Succession at the least. Your claims are not based on real evidence but your own opinions.
LatinPrayers 3 weeks ago
@LatinPrayers You bow down before them and pray towards them on your knees which seems like you are praying to them.
The scripture forbids us bowing and making images of God.(Exodus 20:4-5.)
"God ordered Moses to put images on the Ark of the Covenant the angels seraphim and cherubim." So what ?
That is no exuse for making images of God and bowing to them.
"You should go study Catholicism and its origin." You should do that yourself.
If I am wrong correct me with scripture.
Mcstroke57 3 weeks ago
@Mcstroke57 If god forids making images in Exodus 20.....why does he instruct them to make images of Cheribums for the top of the Arc of the Covenant in Exodus 25?
prairiemark 2 weeks ago
@prairiemark God never said to make images of him and bow down before them.
read Exodus 20:4-5
It clearly forbids bowing down before graven images.
Mcstroke57 2 weeks ago
@LatinPrayers You Catholics bow before statues for proof look it up on google "catholic mary worship" and is forbidden Exodus 20:4-5.
Mcstroke57 3 weeks ago
@Mcstroke57 What is the origin of the Bible? Fact: did you know that it was put together by Catholic bishops in the year 325 AD at the First Counsel of Nicaea and then was declared to be the Inspired Word of God then 50 copies were made by Catholic monks. Before they didn't have a Bible to interpret their faith and if they did they'd still look to oral tradition and what the Catholic Church taught. Most of the books that were not chosen were declared to be heretical. What if they chose wrong?
LatinPrayers 3 weeks ago
@LatinPrayers The Roman Catholic Church banned reading the bible and burned it.
Also, so what if you "compiled" the scriptures. God's word is God's word and you disobey it.
Mcstroke57 3 weeks ago
@Mcstroke57 Okay, you tell me this... What is God's word?
LatinPrayers 3 weeks ago
@LatinPrayers The scriptures !
Mcstroke57 3 weeks ago
@Mcstroke57 Oh, I was pretty sure that Jesus Christ is the Word of God.
LatinPrayers 3 weeks ago
@Mcstroke57 Sounds like you are part of a non-christian cult. The trinity has been a part of Christian teaching since the earliest times. It is Biblical and orthodox.
prairiemark 2 weeks ago
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@prairiemark It is not biblical and nowhere found in scripture.
"Sounds like you are part of a non-christian cult." It sounds like you are following man made teachings,doctrines and your church instead of God.
Mcstroke57 2 weeks ago
Welcome home brother.
felipe5083 3 weeks ago
Catholicism is cool
Nuns with guns and shit
NathanRomml 1 month ago
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beware youtube user megazordman2, he has been posting inflamatory comments about christianity. Please go to his channel youtube dot com slash megazordman2 and report him 10-20 times a day until youtube bans him. Stop letting these people get away with it.
RethinkingAmerica 1 month ago
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Avro Manhattan (1914--1990) was a writer and philosopher, primarily known for his criticisms of the Roman Catholic Church (see anti-Catholicism). Having covered various political topics throughout his career, Manhattan is perhaps best remembered as the author of several works analyzing the Vatican's role in world politics and global affairs.
AL33355 1 month ago
Obviously the 1st century Church must have been in gross error because they weren't anything like the Protestant churches, right? Obviously, the founding Fathers of the Church must have been knee-deep in idolatry and against the very Word of God since they didn't confess and teach what Protestantism confesses and teaches, right? Consequently, it is very hard to say that anyone outside of Protestantism can truly be saved, right? No wonder Protestants are so prideful!
Celestiaetterra 1 month ago
Convert to Islam , Know the Islam before you convert. Real peace and Truth is in Islam Only
knight0519 2 months ago
God Bless You!
lovevintageheritage 2 months ago
The RCC is a cult. I was raised in the RCC. The only way you would enter into that is if you really didn't know Christ in the first place. The RCC can be very convincing, because they can make up anything they want. Their Authority is the Pope and the Church, not Sola Scriptura. Where the RCC differs from the bible, the RCC claims Authority and they add to scripture. Just look at their Catholic Encyclopedia, lies piled on top of more lies to fit their eisegetical interpretation of scripture.
personal011782 2 months ago
@personal011782 I'm not sure what drove you away from Catholicism, but it is objectively clear that it is the one Church than Christ founded, and left for us as the "pillar and foundation of truth" (1 Timothy 3:15). It is in the Catholic Church that we stand fast in the traditions handed down to us from the apostles, whether they are written or spoken (2 Thess 2:15). There's simply no getting around the fact that Catholicism is the first Christian Church. May God bless you and bring you home.
cburton103 2 months ago
@cburton103 What proof do you have that The Roman Catholic church is God's church ?
The Roman Catholic church celebrates pagan festivals, commit idolatry and etc...
Mcstroke57 2 months ago
@Mcstroke57 Jesus says that he created one church, not multiple. We know from history that this Church had the same beliefs and structure that Catholicism does. Check out the Early Church Fathers - there are a few websites out there with their writings. If you need a link, let me know. Historians all agree that the Catholic Church is the first Christian Church, so if you'd like to take up a career in history and research it, be my guest. God bless.
cburton103 2 months ago
@cburton103 So you ignore all the Pagan connections that Catholicism has ?
Mcstroke57 2 months ago
@Mcstroke57 I don't intentionally ignore anything. However, you essentially ignored everything I said in my message. For a good look at the fallacy of pagan influence in Catholicism, check out this article:
catholic.com/tracts/is-catholicism-pagan
Why do historians agree that the Catholic Church is the first Christian Church, but you don't? Who's better equipped to answer that question?
cburton103 2 months ago
@cburton103 Where does the bible speak about a church named "THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH" ?
Mcstroke57 2 months ago
@Mcstroke57 It doesn't. The Church was first known as "The Way", but people claimed to be a part of this Church and continued to believe heretical things, so the early Church Fathers named the Church Catholic, from the Greek according to (kata-) the whole (holos), which means universal. The name "Catholic" was already in widespread use by the turn of the first century.
Why do historians agree that the Catholic Church is the first Christian Church, but you don't?
cburton103 2 months ago
@Mcstroke57
Where is most of Christ's LIFE in the Bible for that matter? ALL AUTHORITY has been given BY Christ to His Church. What is BOUND in earth is bound in heaven.. These were the words given BY JESUS to Peter. When Peter was martyred under Nero in 67 AD, it was decided by Bishops of the Church to keep the seat of Peter in Rome after he died. He got to Rome in 42AD. Paul too was martyred under Nero in 64AD. He was beheaded. Find his beheading in the Bible. Find Peter's crucifixion there
Fallschirmjaeger29 2 weeks ago
@Fallschirmjaeger29 Peter never went to rome.
Mcstroke57 2 weeks ago
@Mcstroke57
PS, per my other mesg.. since all authority had been deigned by God to His Church and "what's BOUND on earth is BOUND in heaven", then TERMS, names etc are thus BOUND with God. (Mass, pope etc)
In TWO of Peter's non-biblical epistles (& yes, he DID write other epistles that arent contained in scripture just as there were other GOSPELS that arent in the Bible), Peter referred to THE CHURCH as "KATHOLIKOS", a Greek word to describe The Church meaning "Universal, whole, complete"
Fallschirmjaeger29 2 weeks ago
@Mcstroke57
Your assembly isnt "THE CHURCH", though.. Your point? You poor fundies outside THE CHURCH of the Bible dont know any better. You lack sound knowledge of the scriptures, exegesis, Christian history, the fact that all of the apostles & Paul, Timothy, Titus, Philemon, Luke, Mark, Barnabus, Apollos, Linus (2Tim4:21), Clement (Phil4:3) etc, were all BISHOPS of THE CHURCH. 1Tim3; Tit1:7; Heb13:17; 1Tim5:17; 1Pt2:25, 5:1-5; 2Cor10:8; Tit2:15; 1Pt2:5,9; 1Cor11:2; 2Thes2:15, 3:6
Fallschirmjaeger29 2 weeks ago
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Mcstroke57 2 weeks ago
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@Fallschirmjaeger29 There are no bishops in the bible.
"You lack sound knowledge of the scriptures, exegesis, Christian history"
I know that Roman Catholicism is the most evil organization in the world that murdered innocent people and abused who knows how many children.
Your "Pope" is lier,sinner and a sorry excuse for a human being who protects pedophiles and has alot of blood on his hands.
Mcstroke57 2 weeks ago
@personal011782 You never really understood the Catholic faith or you would not have left it for a belief that the eary church would not recognise. The new 'reformation' beleif in sola scriptura is the reason why there are so many protestant denominations. The Catholic church put your Bible together.
22grena 2 months ago
@personal011782 PRAISE THE LORD !
Mcstroke57 2 months ago
The Roman Catholic Church teaches unbiblical doctorines like the Age of Accountability and celebrates Pagan holidays Like Christmas and Easter Also pray to Saints and Mary which is completely unbiblical.
Mcstroke57 3 months ago
@Mcstroke57 That was a completely original and well supported argument you just made...
farsight001 2 months ago
as a protestant, i disagree with a lot of what Catholicism stands for, but this post is very heart felt and seems genuine. i respect him for that
eberhartmatt 3 months ago
@eberhartmatt Stand by what we have in common but be interested enough to read what you disagree with and you may be suprised to find that what you thought Catholics believe is actually different from what they actually believe.
22grena 2 months ago
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Jeremiah is being very honest with his God, himself and his neighbours. God bless him.
Denis4truth 3 months ago
Jeremiah is being very honest with his God, himself and his neighbours. God bless him.
Denis4truth 3 months ago
1) Confessing to another human being is not unlike attempting to call a closed outlet store when you really should be calling corporate headquarters. In essence, a useless behavior, and a waste of time. 2) Communion is symbolic, not literal; a remembrance and a reverence. Because we frown upon cannibalism, as does God. Why? Because it is wrong. 3) Purgatory is not only an absurd myth, it is an unspeakable offense to Christ for believing that Calvary was not sufficient. Lose your delusion.
JeffersonDinedAlone 3 months ago
Jefferson, this regurgitating of anti-catholic polemic is not coming from you, rather it is what you are hearing from biased preachers and ill-informed authors. You cannot understand the true Church of Christ until you take off your modern-day preconceptions and recognise the Catholic Church of history founded directly upon St Peter and the Apostles by Our Lord Jesus Christ.
Denis4truth 3 months ago
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Revolutionary!
Check out this video on Youtube: Prophecy 101: Islam and Satan by Walid Shoebat
When you've seen the video, spread the word. Share it with others! Let the world know that Islam is the true religion of the Devil!
OurChristJesus 3 months ago
Wow! Dude, your wife friggin ROCKS! Great story.
Peace be with you :)
MNskins11 4 months ago
good story, could you please tell me the name of the song at the start?
BlindFaith1985 5 months ago
This was very beautiful, thank you for sharing. I am finding myself in the same dilemma at the moment with regards to family being protestant, however my boyfriend is Catholic and is helping me with the transition. I have never felt more drawn to a religion before, I feel I am truly on the right path. God Bless.
meoff66 6 months ago
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THIS FACT! The Catholic Church has always tried to keep the European as dumb possible. An example of this hiding of truth can be seen in the coverup of the Pedophile Priest and Gays that run the Catholic Church. The Spanish Inquisition, The Crusades, WWI, and WWII, all involve the Catholic Church manipulating, lying to, stealing from, and murdering the people of Europe. WWII is nothing but the Catholic Church and Rothschild using Ashkenazi Khazars(non-Semites/Zionist) for another Crusade.
Born2Flesh 7 months ago
Friends, on the Rosary and John Paul II's attempt to mangle it, google for this article in the Seattle Catholic:
The Twenty Mysteries of the Rosary? by John Vennari
Jitpring 7 months ago
Read Pius IX's 1925 encyclical Quas Primas, on the social reign of Christ the King. The Conciliar Church ignores this encyclical, of course.
Jitpring 7 months ago
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"Check out my YouTube channel/playlists and websites for present-truth materials, Three Angels' Messages and God's last-mercy warning to His people in these last days.
Papacy = Antichrist / Little Horn / Beast from the Sea
Roman Catholicism = Whore of Babylon
Investigative Judgement has commenced in 1844 (1st Angel's Message)
Ellen G. White, 1827-1915 = End-time Prophet Sent of God
7th-day Sabbath = Seal of God
Sunday Worship to be Enforced as Mark of the Beast"
SeventhDayRemnant 7 months ago
Calvinism and Catholicism talk about a false choice, their both dead wrong
cbat36 7 months ago
So you walk in to Roman Catholicism knowing nothing about it's history and are then lead to believe by a book with a mild apologetic to it? What kind of bible college and seminary teach no church history?
Why did you covert? Because you didn't know what Sola Fide meant in the first place as a protestant.
MRKetter81 7 months ago
well i know what catholocism teaches and i know most of their teaching is unbiblical..Do you know that the rcc believes u dont necessarily have to receive Christ or believe the gospel. this is a false gospel to say the least. Do u know what paul says to those who have a different gospel. He says they should be accursed..praying to the dead is not only sinful it is pagan. So, ur testimony is suspect..i do research on the rcc so i know what im talking about it.
SONOFGODALSO 8 months ago
@SONOFGODALSO
I'll state it to you too! The assembly that you belong to isnt even "The Church" of the Bible. You're part of the cascade of invented assemblies that popped up after Luther. These assemblies are not The Church of the Bible. Your assembly holds NO authority from God.
Your assembly doesnt even "FOLLOW" The Bible, a name for the collection of books given BY The Catholic Church in the 4th century after The Church COMPILED the scriptures to make up what's KNOWN AS THE BIBLE
Fallschirmjaeger29 7 months ago
@Fallschirmjaeger29 friend ur mistaken on all points..i suppose u want to ref matt 16 as Jesus starting the church on peter..u couldnt be more wrong. peters confession is what His church is built on..withiout it , we are a pitiful social club..i have pretty good proof too..for starters, peter never even acknowledges being pope and neither does any of his contemporairies. Scripture never even acknowledges peter traveling to rome..it was only jerusalem and babylon...
SONOFGODALSO 7 months ago
@SONOFGODALSO also..paul tells us his ministry was to the gentiles and peters was to the jews in gal 2..so u see he wasnt pope over the whole church....the Holy Spirit is the "vicar" of Christ.. and He alone testifies of Jesus...it seems ur salvation is tied up in a church..church doesnt save. Jesus does. in any case, there are many churches in Christ but one body..so one can be baptist nondenom etc and still be a believer in Christ ..what does Jesus say rev 2-3..Hear what the Spirit says to
SONOFGODALSO 7 months ago
@SONOFGODALSO Churches..plural...Jesus is the cornerstone not a pope..Jesus is the rock and the pope isnt..Paul tells us at thehead of every man is JEsus and not a pope..Paul warns us that to go beyond what is written and u will become puffed up..this is certainly true of the rcc and many in its congregation..Ultimately, whether the rcc is the church Jesus started is irrevelevant today because the rcc has departed from the true gospel..the rcc believes u dont have to believe the gospel or rcv
SONOFGODALSO 7 months ago
@SONOFGODALSO Christ as Lord in order to be saved..the rcc has a false gospel friend..this makes the tree and its fruit bad..and it cant produce any good fruit...this is according tothe bible..also,,the rcc has revised most of history so that it can gain power..modernday nicolaitans...
SONOFGODALSO 7 months ago
@SONOFGODALSO First the Holy Church, later the scripture, wholly compiled by the Catholic Church, Jesus never commAnded to write the Bible, the name is not even in the scriptures.
WELCOME HOME, JEREMIAH!
Coetus777 6 months ago
@SONOFGODALSO
The assembly you belong to is not "The Church", though.. Jesus didnt begin His Church in the 16th century when the "reformers" began their cascade of invented "assemblies". Sure, you "think" the assembly you belong to is The Church. Jesus began His "CHURCH" and all of the apostles were Bishops. The entire NT was written by Bishops, & Paul, Barnabus, Luke, Mark, Philemon, Apollos, Linus (2Tim4:21), Clement (Phil4:3) were all BISHOPS! -> 1Tim3; Tit1:7; Heb13:17; 1Pt2:25;1Tim5:17
Fallschirmjaeger29 4 months ago
@SONOFGODALSO
The Holy Spirit is not the vicar of Christ! The Holy Sp is GOD. A vicar is the same as a representative, or a "deputy" so to speak.. "a BISHOP is a representative of GOD" Tit1:7
THE POPE IS A "BISHOP" AND THE SUCCESSOR TO THE APOSTLE PETER!! You disagree. It doesnt matter. The "assembly" you belong to isnt even "The Church". You "think" it is. You belong to an "offshoot" of The Church, nor does your assembly hold any "authority" from God. Authority rests w/ Bishops. 2Cor10:8
Fallschirmjaeger29 4 months ago
@Fallschirmjaeger29 u r mistaken on all pts frnd..when Jesus sd upon this rock iwill build his church He was spkg of peters confession..w/o it the church is a pitiful social club..but i hv proof tho i doubt u care..in Gal 2 paul is contrasting his ministry w/peters.. he sd peters ministry was to the Jew only...this right proves peter was never pope..ultimately, it doesnt matter if peter was pope..the rcc has started preaching a false gospel..u rnt concerned but u should be..in the cat art841
SONOFGODALSO 4 months ago
@SONOFGODALSO and 847 it says there is more than one way to be saved..u can in ur own ignorance of the gospel or the cross and not rcv Jesus as Lord and still make it into heaven..this is a false gospel..Paul says those who have a false gospel shld be accursed..so again u need to be concerned..
SONOFGODALSO 4 months ago
@SONOFGODALSO
Paul was A BISHOP IN "THE CHURCH".. He speaks of "the office of Bishop" in 1Tim3 & Titus 1:7.. Timothy and Titus were also BISHOPS of the Church. The entire NT was written by BISHOPS of The Church. In Acts when the apostles ordained others, they did so by the laying on of hands. This was "ordaining" others which stil occurs today. Who is YOUR Bishop? If you follow the Bible, you'll see that ordaining comes by a process of laying on of hands, AND that there's the OFFICE OF BISHOP
Fallschirmjaeger29 4 months ago
@SONOFGODALSO
I'm not mistaken at all. Again, you have NO "authority". Your "private exegesis" is not the final word. In fact, your assembly is not even a recognized "Church". U belong merely to an assembly that is an "offshoot" of THE CHURCH. Your assembly was invented sometime in the last 500 yrs by someone. The fullness of the Christian faith comes thru the Body of Christ, His CHURCH. Christ is the HEAD and the faithful are His body. His CHURCH is tended by the successor to Peter, a BISHOP
Fallschirmjaeger29 4 months ago
@Fallschirmjaeger29 ur mistaken on most pts..i keep telling u this..paul was an apostle..he says it over and over..the Holy Spirit is the "vicar" of Christ. Jesus said He would send the Holy Spirit Who would testify about HIm and be our Counselor and Teacher..ur right in tht Holy Spirit is God..i noticed u never replied about the rcc's false gospel..this is an important point...it makes a tree good or bad..i will tell in the last days there will be a great apostasy..i think ur apart of that..
SONOFGODALSO 4 months ago
@SONOFGODALSO u shld also take a look at rev 17..the harlot is the rcc..the harlot has so many characteristics of the rcc it is shocking..lets talk about that...she sits on a beast that sits on 7 hills(rome)...she is rich cause she has a gold chalet..she is wearing red and purple(primary colors) of rcc leadership..she is drunk with the blood of the saints..noone has persecuted christians more than the rcc..note her end..she is destroyed..why wld u wnt to be apart of a church that has
SONOFGODALSO 4 months ago
@SONOFGODALSO systematically covered up for pedophile priests for decades maybe even centuries? it came to light recently that a priest wanted to go public with the abuse and ur church prevented him saying it was against church law....
SONOFGODALSO 4 months ago
@SONOFGODALSO
It sad that there has been scandal in The Church. One case is too many, and these people will answer to Christ for sure, clergy or not. Yet, there are many similar cases in assemblies outside the Church in Christian "assemblies" too. In fact, a year ago there was a fundy preacher in the next county where I lived who was arrested for molesting kids and for child porn.
But see? You're a typical "pharisee" fundy. Again, your "assembly" isnt even THE CHURCH of the Bible
Fallschirmjaeger29 4 months ago
@SONOFGODALSO
No, einstein, the "harlot" of Revelation is JERUSALEM.. In HALF of the OT it speaks of God's displeasure of His chosen people. I guess you dont read the OT do you? It spells it out in Ez16, namely Ez16:15. Read the whole chapter. Scarlet, purple, gold, jewels, incense --> ALL in the OT regarding Jerusalem. "Come out of her "is Isa 52
Jerusalem sits on 7 hills: Mounts Acra, Bezetha, Gared, Goath, Moriah, Ophel & Zion. You dont know any better. You're a typical fundy sychophant
Fallschirmjaeger29 4 months ago
@SONOFGODALSO
When reading the bible, you should remember that the authors did not divide their work into chapter and verse - the church did. Realize then, that rev 18 is a continuation of Rev 17, and you will clearly see that that babylon is ancient Rome in that section. Note the items of trade - horses, chariots etc, and the account of the great city burning. Ancient Rome burned in 64 AD.
"noone has persecuted christians more than the rcc" ??? Try ancient Rome - much better fit.
182RG 4 months ago
@182RG
Well, actually Revelation is re: Jerusalem. Scarlet, purple, gold, jewels etc can all be traced back to Exodus. Refer to chapt 28 on ..
Also, the whore is Jerusalem. Ezek16 (16:15). Chariots, horses, trade, fine linens, wax, wood, incense etc etc can all be found in the OT. God blessed HIs people with an abundance of riches but Jerusalem eventually became a cesspool. In fact, about half of the OT is God's displeasure of Jerusalem
Jerusalem also sits on 7 hills, not just Rome
Fallschirmjaeger29 3 months ago
@Fallschirmjaeger29
There are parts of Revelation that indeed refer to Jerusalem; but not that particular part. And yes, there are many cities that sit on 7 hills.
Ancient Rome was the center of world commerce at the time. Remember too that a third of ancient Rome burned to the ground in 64 AD, fully in harmony with Rev 18. Nero blamed the Christians for that fire and tortured them mercilously in revenge.
BTW Rome had a bad habit of catching fire - again in 69AD and yet again in 80AD.
182RG 3 months ago
True, Rome was a commercial center, however, so was Jerusalem. In the OT, gold, jewels, wood, wax, incense, scarlet, purple, horses, chariots etc can all be found regarding Jerusalem.
In Ezek16 (16:15) it tells of "the woman" & "the whore"..Read that chapter. Plagues are ch. 14. Rome never received a plague in the Bible. Jerusalem did. Also later in Rev it speaks of a "new" Jerusalem.
"Come out of her" is Isaiah 52. Jerusalem is definitely the depicted city on 7 hills in Rev, not Rome
Fallschirmjaeger29 3 months ago
PS:
the 7 hills of Jerusalem are Mounts Acra, Bezetha, Gared, Goath, Moriah, Ophel, & Zion
Fallschirmjaeger29 3 months ago
@Fallschirmjaeger29
I don't think we can be absolutely sure which city Rev 17 &18 refers to. Bible scholars can't even agree. Many cities were referred to as Great City and Babylon - both Jerusalem and ancient Rome, among others. Fact is, not that long ago, I argued for Jerusalem myself, and I reserve the right to change my mind again:) I would have mentioned that if weren't for the 500 letter limit in last post. One thing is for sure though, it isn't referring to modern day Rome or the RCC!
182RG 3 months ago
@SONOFGODALSO
The Holy Spirit is not the "vicar of Christ".. This is precisely WHY you're NOT the "final word" on matters of scriptural exegesis. The CHURCH is the final word, and NO, your "assembly" is NOT the Church. You "think" your assembly is the CHurch, but Christ Himself will tell you that your assembly is not the Church. You belong to an invented "assembly" that someone began in the lastr few hundred yrs.
The pope is the successor to Peter. Christ put Peter in charge to TEND His Flock
Fallschirmjaeger29 4 months ago
@SONOFGODALSO
Nowhere in the Bible have I ever read Paul stating that the HS was the vicar of Christ. He CANT. He and Christ are ONE in the same as God. Jesus is NOT the Holy Spirit and the HS is not Jesus, but theyre ONE. The HS is not Jesus' "deputy representative", which is what a vicar is. . Jesus explicity told Peter in Jn21 to "tend His flock". When Peter was martyred, Linus (2Tim4:21) succeeded him. Clement of Phil4:3 was Peter's 3rd successor. Benedikt today is the 265th successor
Fallschirmjaeger29 4 months ago
@SONOFGODALSO
Im part of the great apostasy, eh? Guess what, chief? I'll state it again: Your ASSEMBLY is NOT THE CHURCH OF THE BIBLE! You have ZERO, repeat NO AUTHORITY GIVEN TO YOU FROM GOD. NONE. Not you, not your "preacher", not I, not ANYONE has "authority" from God except for the person who holds the Keys. That person is a BISHOP and Peter's successor. You disagree.. It doesnt matter. You're not even "of" the true CHURCH Christ began. He'll even tell you that. You people dont know better
Fallschirmjaeger29 4 months ago
@SONOFGODALSO
Im not mistaken on anything that i write. You're not even "OF" the Church! Why should I believe how YOU interpret scripture? LOL! Ur certainly well intentioned, but you have no authority, and as such what you produce is merely "private interpretion" of the Bible which is prohibited. In 2Pet1:20, 3:16, Peter states "no part if scripture is for PRIVATE interpretion and ... the UNLEARNED distort the sctures to their own destruction"
Peter is a BISHOP. This is the ONE TRUE CHURCH
Fallschirmjaeger29 4 months ago
@SONOFGODALSO
You're wrong. Jesus ORDAINED all of His apostles as Bishops. He appointed Peter to be the head Bishop among the apostles.
You all think the Bible fell outta the sky, dontcha? The BIBLE was named "The Bible" by THE CHURCH. The Bible came about from the yrs 384-397 AD. The BIble was ratified in 419 by Bishop pope Boniface I.. Which books got omitted? Didja know that in TWO of Peter's non-biblical epistles that he referred to "THE CHURCH" as "Katholikos"? --> Greek for "Universal"
Fallschirmjaeger29 4 months ago
@SONOFGODALSO
The Catholic Church CANT preach a false gospel --> it is the CHURCH which is divinely protected by the Holy Spirit.. In fact, the apostles & Paul HAD NO WRITTEN gospel when they preached the gospel. The "written" gospels werent even out! This is called Sacred Tradition, which is NOT to be confused with "human" tradition. Sacred Tradition is also the word of God. In fact, the BIBLE could not have been written WITHOUT Sacred Tradition.. 1Cor11:2, 23, 15:3; 2Thes2:14-15; Gal1:11-12
Fallschirmjaeger29 4 months ago
@SONOFGODALSO
I'm not wrong on anything I have written. Your assembly is not THE CHURCH. You hold no authority deigned to you from Jesus.Neither you, nor your preacher, nor I hold any authority from God unless that's been given by HIM.
Jesus deigned His authority to His apostles who were the 1st Bishops. Who is Linus of 2Tim4:21? You dont know do you? How about Clement of Phil 4:3?
How did Mark write his gospel if he wasnt an apostle? Luke also? You people OUTSIDE THE CHURCH dont know
Fallschirmjaeger29 2 weeks ago
@SONOFGODALSO
When Matthew wrote his gospel, he wrote it in Greek. In Mt16:17-19, when Jesus tell Peter, "Peter I give YOU the Keys to the Kingdom", the "you" in this gospel which Matthew writes is in the 2nd person singular of "you" which in Greek is spelled differently than the plural of "you", thus singling Peter out to have the Keys. If Christ meant for all of the apostles to have the Keys, Jesus surely wouldve made this known and the Greek spelling would have been different in the gospel
Fallschirmjaeger29 4 months ago
It's been almost 3 years, but this testimony is extremely powerful. I went through a similar type of conversion over the past 3 years, but from Secular Atheism to Roman Catholicism. Your arguments are convincing and your testimony here, powerful. God Bless you and your family.
drdst17 8 months ago
How sad a person goes from "protestantism," to Catholicism. to go from faith alone, grace alone and Christ alone to a system of bondage and works what a terrible story. "I marvel ... removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed
cbat36 8 months ago
@cbat36 Good for him. Sad for you....
citizenfitz 8 months ago
@citizenfitz no sad for you if your trusting in your "good works," to save you or keep your salvation you'll be judged by your "works," and no one well get into heaven by their works "for all have sinned and come short of the glory of God." Rom. 3:23
cbat36 8 months ago
@cbat,
The assembly you belong to isnt even "The Church" of the Bible, though. The apostles were the 1st Bishops of the Church. Peter presided over the other apostles as the chief apostle per Christ's words in Mt16:17-19 & Jn21:15-18. Refer also to Peter's words in 1Pt2:25; 5:1-5. Paul tells of the office of Bishop in 1tim3; titus1:7. An elder is a Bishop. Read Paul's words in 1Tim5:17; Heb13:17. The pope is a Bishop, so is a cardinal. In 2 of Peter's non-biblical epistles he wrote "katolikos"
Fallschirmjaeger29 8 months ago
@Fallschirmjaeger29 1 Peter 2:25 "Shepherd and Bishop of your souls," read the verses before that, who is it talking about Jesus Christ or Peter? Jesus is the Good Shepherd and Bishop of our souls not Peter. Back up to verse 9 Peter is talking to fellow believers "ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation." When has the Pope ever called you Catholics "a royal priesthood, an holy nation," NEVER. "In 2 of Peter's non-biblical epistles," Peter never wrote them their frauds :)
cbat36 8 months ago
@cbat36
no it isnt. That's what you're taught to believe. In fact. Your denomination only was invented in the last coupla hundred yrs. The apostles were all divinely ordained.. "It was not you who chose Me, rather I chose you AND I ORDAINED YOU" -Jesus, Jn15:16.
ALL of the writers of the NT, cbat, WERE BISHOPS IN THE CHURCH! In fact, Mark accompanied Peter from Antioch to Rome in 42 AD and compiled his gospel based on Peter's sermons in Rome. Didja know that? Mark was bishop of Alexandria
Fallschirmjaeger29 8 months ago
-contd-
All of the apostles were Bishops. Paul was a bishop. So were Timothy, Titus, Barnabus, Clement (Phil 4:3), Linus (2Tim4:21), Philemon etc etc.. There were other gospels not included in the Bible. There were other epistles not included. In 2 of Peter's NON-BIBLICAL epistles, he referred to THE CHURCH as "Katholikos". Ignatius of Antioch (Bishop & martyr) used the term "Katholikos" in most of his writings c. 105-110AD. This is Greek for "Catholic" meaning "universal, whole, complete"
Fallschirmjaeger29 8 months ago
@Fallschirmjaeger29 you've just showed your authority is not the Bible, it is in MEN, Linus and Clement are never called apostles in anywhere in the Bible, your just proving Romanism is the oldest cult in business, "my denomination," which you dont know what it is, follows Bible believing Christianity, their has always been true christians, "Waldensians, Albigensiens, Cathars, Paulicans, ect. read some history by others instead of a bunch of Jesuits. your puny mantras "no it isn't." meaningless
cbat36 8 months ago
@cbat36 Jesus gave MEN (St. Peter) the authority to infallibly interpret Holy Scripture. The Bible itself is an inanimate book that can do nothing until someone picks it up and begins to INTERPRET the Word of God. The Bible is very important, but if us Sinners are allowed to interpret it any way we want, we are bound to make errors, which is the ENTIRE HISTORY of the Protestant Heresies.
Christ created his Universal (Catholic) Church upon St. Peter and gave it all authority.
drdst17 8 months ago
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@drdst17 Are you claiming that Peter was sinless? Are you claiming that the Magisterium is sinless? no they aren't "all have sinned and come short of the glory of God." Rom. 3:23 only Jesus was without sin and that's because he is "God manifest in the flesh," 1 Tim. 3:16. Your in a cult because you follow a man The Pope I follow God. Christ is the foundation of the church not Peter Jesus said "Thou art Peter and upon THIS ROCK I will build MY church." Matt. 16:18.
cbat36 8 months ago
@drdst17 cont. Did Jesus say Upon You I will build my church? No he said Upon THIS, then later he said MY church so it's Christ's church not Peters, your just parroting what the Magisterium would have you believe. The Holy Spirit is our teacher we dont need a man to teach us anything, "Ye need not that any man teach you," 1John 2:27
cbat36 8 months ago
@cbat36 Your interpretation is incorrect. Jesus EXPLICITLY called Peter the "rock" upon which he would build His Church.
You purposely take Biblical Quotes out of context and twist them to fit your worldview, which Protestant Heretics have been doing for the past 500 years.
And it is better to "parrot" the Magisterium which has Christ's authority, than to follow some other Heretic or our own interpretations. The sin of arrogance is strong in you.
drdst17 8 months ago
@drdst17 "the sin of arrogance is strong in you," I quote the Bible and you call me arrogant? your problem is with God not me, you need to resort to Ad Hominem attacks, you haven't stated how those Bible verses are wrong, so You Romanists are the Hereticks not us Bible believers I actually believe the Bible you dont you accept only Church tradition and what THEY TELL YOU IS TRUE, so you are therefore in a CULT
cbat36 7 months ago
@drdst17 show me one place in the Bible where there is a Magisterium? Also please respond to 1 John 2:27, you've ignored my Bible references
cbat36 7 months ago
@cbat36 Matthew 16:18, when Christ gave Peter the Keys to the Kingdom of Heaven and created His Church. The Church, centered on the Bishop of Rome as Peter's successor, has ALL AUTHORITY in determining the truth of Sacred Scripture. The Bible Alone (sola scriptura) theory is pure and utter heresy and defeats the virtue of FAITH by adhering to one's own private interpretation of Scripture.
You heretics do not "follow" the Bible: you JUDGE it with your own interpretations. That is not "faith".
drdst17 7 months ago
@drdst17 you haven't answered my questions, you have resorted to name calling, and parroting typical Romanist interpretations. PROVE PETER is the BISHOP OF ROME! PROVE PETER WAS EVEN IN ROME! In Acts chap. 15 James the half brother of Jesus made the final decision not Peter answer that. But again your silence says everything Ignored my question of where the Magisterium is in the Bible and 1 John 2:27 which states that we dont need a man to teach us The HOLY SPIRIT is our teacher, I believe that!
cbat36 7 months ago
@cbat36
It doesnt HAVE to be in the Bible that Peter was in Rome! Not all of Jesus did is in the Bible. Does that mean they didnt take place? The martyrdoms of the apostles arent in the Bible. Does that mean they didnt take place? Which was the only apostle to escape martyrdom and where? This isnt in the Bible. Did you know that the epistles came out before the written gospels? Why are they parked BEHIND the written gospels of the epistles came out FIRST? Who decided this arrangement, scholar?
Fallschirmjaeger29 7 months ago
@Fallschirmjaeger29 thats right keep ignoring 1 John 2:27 you Romanists cant handle the truth, "And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven." answer that Papist? "a certain woman ""(first recorded Romanist)"" of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked. But he said, Yea RATHER blessed are they that HEAR the WORD OF GOD, and KEEP IT." Luke 11:27-28. Answer that Papist?
cbat36 7 months ago
@cbat36
Jesus never said that the "authority" was the Bible. The term Bible came out in the 4th century, and guess what? The name Bible was given by THE CHURCH. cbat, your assembly is not even a recognized CHURCH in the eyes of God. Yes, He has a place for people in assemblies on the outside since He is a God of love, but Jesus didn't begin your assembly. At some point after so called "Reformers" of the 16th century came along, the cascade of "invented" denoms sprang up. These arent The Church
Fallschirmjaeger29 7 months ago
@ conspunk: Atheism is NOT a religion! You are showing your ignorance, dude. Religion, by definition, involves a belief in god(s). Atheism is the LACK of belief in god(s). Therefore, atheism is not a religion.
byroniac 9 months ago
You prayed in the bathroom? You prayed where people take a dump, pee and god knows what else? ewww... why didn't you go somewhere else where it was cleaner?
indimaya 9 months ago
@conspunk
Jesus Christ.
You have just posted like 6 full comments.... and you think I'm actually fucking bother to read them all.
This alone proves everything I have been trying to say; you are a fucking loser!
Unlike you I actually have things to do, so if you don't mind...
OrthodoxDarwinist 9 months ago
@conspunk
The National Socialist Movement has wrought this miracle. If Almighty God granted success to this work, then the Party was His instrument.
-Adolf Hitler, in his proclamation to the German People on 01 Jan. 1939
[I] never lost my belief, in the midst of setbacks which were not spared me during my period of struggle. Providence has had the last word and brought me success.
-Adolf Hitler, speech of 23 Nov. 1939
HAHAHAHA ROLLED AGAIN, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
OrthodoxDarwinist 9 months ago
@conspunk
HAHAHAHAHAHHA
I thought we were talking about Hitler??
Did I just R-O-L-LLLLLLLL YOU!!!?? Oh yes I did!!!
Why don't you want to talk about Hitler's religion anymore? Is it because I PROVED from his own mouth that he on many many times said he was Christian and that the Nazi Party is fighting FOR Christianity?
Oh yes!!! Handle the truth bitch!!! Smell it!! It smells goooood.
OrthodoxDarwinist 9 months ago
@conspunk
" We tolerate no one in our ranks who attacks the ideas of Christianity... in fact our movement is Christian. We are filled with a desire for Catholics and Protestants to discover one another in the deep distress of our own people."
-Adolf Hitler, in a speech in Passau, 27 October 1928, Bundesarchiv Berlin-Zehlendorf, [cited from Richard Steigmann-Gall's The Holy Reich]
OrthodoxDarwinist 9 months ago
@conspunk
To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before in the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice.... For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people....
-Adolf Hitler, in his speech in Munich on 12 April 1922
OrthodoxDarwinist 9 months ago
"The Party, as such, stands for positive Christianity, but does not bind itself in the matter of creed to any particular confession. It combats the Jewish-materialist spirit within and without us."
- Point 24 Programme of the German National Socialistic Party.
In the Bible we find the text, 'That which is neither hot nor cold will I spew out of my mouth.' This utterance of the great Nazarene has kept its profound validity until the present day.
-Adolf Hitler, speech in Munich, 10 April 1923
OrthodoxDarwinist 9 months ago
"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter.... In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders."
-Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942)
I have about 200 to follow. FAIL!
OrthodoxDarwinist 9 months ago
@conspunk
No one in the history of mankind has been killed in the name of atheism. Using your logic it was Hitler's Christianity that lead to him killing so many people.
Sorry but you are fucking retarded.
And I CBF looking up how many Albigensians were killed but the Pope at the time bragged that he had burned 20,000 men women and children at the stake in a single day, he was actually thrilled by it.....
OrthodoxDarwinist 9 months ago
@conspunk
No problems. I seriously can't wait to have my way with that whore! Wanna do tag team? Oh wait no, you're probably a bt itchy down there... nevermind.
OrthodoxDarwinist 9 months ago
@conspunk
I went to the lab for 3 hours and I come back and you've flooded me with stupid replies. This alone proves you are some fat uneducated 40y.o retard in his Mum's basement.
OrthodoxDarwinist 9 months ago
@conspunk
How can you NOT look at Mary Magdelene and not want to penetrate her sexually? She is the Pagan goddess of fertility for crying out loud, the biggest slut mankind has ever conceived of! I went to a college run by Opus Dei and they has a statue of her in the common room, I used to invisage stripping her naked, bending her over the altar and having my way with her. Then she would give birth to some great immortal being, and that would make me GOD. xD
OrthodoxDarwinist 9 months ago
@conspunk
I have posted more than one study, all of them by legitimate sociological journals.
You see, in academia, unlike religion, you can't publish bullshit as it will never be accepted by a legitimate journal. The study needs to contain objective PROOF, which if nyou read the articles they provide all the data from which the conslusions were drawn. This is why I base my worldview on science and intellect, not "faith" and Bronze Age mythology like yourself.
OrthodoxDarwinist 9 months ago
@conspunk
Who cares if France has riots, that means absolutely nothing.
Sweden was actually very Christian back then, as was most of Europe. Plus they had every moral right to stay out of the war and no-one knew the extent of the deaths until the end of the war. Idiot.
It doesn't matter that Japan recognized Confucianism because it's not even a religion, it's a philosophical system of ethics. Idiot.
OrthodoxDarwinist 9 months ago
@conspunk
I would much rather be nerdy and STD-free than a poorly educated religious zealot with syphilis and child maintenance.
I love how you got caught on your own lie, saying that theists were more moral, then I pull out the studies and expose you as the ignorant fool you are. LOL.
Go worship your sky daddy.
OrthodoxDarwinist 9 months ago
@conspunk
The Catholic Church also has a worse history of blood lust than nearly any extant institution on the planet......
Have you ever heard of the Albigensians? Oh that's right you freaks ethnically cleansed them off the face of the planet!
OrthodoxDarwinist 9 months ago
"Indeed, the data examined in this study demonstrates that only the more secular, pro-evolution democracies have, for the first time in history, come closest to achieving practical “cultures of life” that feature low rates of lethal crime, juvenile-adult mortality, sex related dysfunction, and even abortion. The least theistic secular developed democracies such as Japan, France, and Scandinavia have been most successful in these regards."
OrthodoxDarwinist 9 months ago
@conspunk
Slandering and lying about the author of the paper won't change the facts idiot.
You want some more proof?! OK.
"Higher rates of belief in and worship of a creator correlate with higher rates of homicide, juvenile and early adult mortality, STD infection rates, teen pregnancy, and abortion."
Gregory, P.S. (2005). Cross-National Correlations of Quantifiable Societal Health with Popular Religiosity and Secularism in the Prosperous Democracies, Journal of Religon and Society 7.
OrthodoxDarwinist 9 months ago
@conspunk
I don't need you to show me any studies, because I have them right here:
"Sociologist Phil Zuckerman analyzed previous research on atheists and morality, and concluded that the more atheists and agnostics there are in a society, the more moral it is."
Zuckerman, Phil (2009). "Atheism, Secularity, and Well-Being: How the Findings of Social Science Counter Negative Stereotypes and Assumptions". Sociology Compass 3 (6): 949–971.
I have about 100 of these studies to back it up... :D
OrthodoxDarwinist 9 months ago
@conspunk
Actually it has been proven that correlation wise, Atheists have better education, income, and are a lot less likely to commit crimes or rape people.
So yea.....
OrthodoxDarwinist 9 months ago
@conspunk
I can't wait til Jesus comes in his spaceship, I am going to strap him downm backards on the cross and force my fist covered in broken glass fown into his tight unwilling rectum until blood and fecal matter starts to spurt out around the sides. This is called "Voltaire's angry glove".
OrthodoxDarwinist 9 months ago
@conspunk
Because those are the ONLY definitions that are within the context of what we are talking about.
I will be just as retarded as you for a second:
'OMG! You "sacrifice" youselves to Jesus, that must "slaughter an animal or person", that's a definition of sacrifice, not in context but I''m conspunk and I'm retarded so that doesn't matter!'
OrthodoxDarwinist 9 months ago
Oxford Dictionary;
Religion: "the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power , especially a personal God or gods."
Faith: "strong belief in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual conviction rather than proof."
What you're saying is that when someone refuses to believe there is some invisible man in the sky that that is "faith". I don't think I've ever heard such crap in my life.
Atheist follow objective testable reality; SCIENCE, not 'faith'.
OrthodoxDarwinist 9 months ago
@conspunk
I already answered your question dipshit.
..a religion, with clearly defined rules, eschatology and a philosophy by which to live. Religion is a means of understanding our existence.
Does atheism have anything approaching "clearly defined rules?" Not in the least. There is only one "rule," and that is the rule of the definition of "atheism" - not having any belief in any gods. Other than that, atheists are free to do whatever they want and still be called atheists.
OrthodoxDarwinist 9 months ago
@conspunk
I already answered your retarded question: 'Darwinism doesn't disprove "God" in general, but it DOES prove the Bible is a load of shit.'
And no matter how much crap you post it won't lend any authenticity to your bizarre claim that atheism is a religion, but then again talking sense to someone who is in the depths of religious psychosis is utterly pointless.
So if you don't have anything to say other than that, please don't talk to me.
OrthodoxDarwinist 9 months ago
@conspunk
Do you know where Mary Magdalene is? I need to rent a prostitute but don't have much money so I was thinking she might do it for a couple of sheckles more than it costs to buy dog food...
OrthodoxDarwinist 9 months ago
@conspunk
You haven't even said what "God" means in this context. Darwinism doesn't disprove "God" in general, but it DOES prove the Bible is a load of shit.
Atheism: from Greek atheos, from a- 'without' + theos 'god'. There is no "faith" or belief system in atheism; nor does it have clerical hierarchies, sacred narratives/history, traditions, laws, an explanation of the meaning of life, congregations, initiations, rituals, prayer........ it's the very opposite of a "religion".
Idiot.
OrthodoxDarwinist 9 months ago
@conspunk
I refuse to reply to you because I am far too sick of talking to stupid people.
You don't even know what atheism is, use a bloody dictionary.
And no I don't agree with Darwins assessments of races because I am a Neo-Darwinist, I take Darwin's work in the context of modern science, and modern science shows races do not even exist, it is merely a social construct.
Now please either pick up a dictionary or stop talking to me.
OrthodoxDarwinist 9 months ago
@conspunk
Atheism is the complete LACk of religion you idiot.
Secondly you clearly don't understand anything about it, nor darwinism. So please refrain from commenting on things you don't understand.
OrthodoxDarwinist 9 months ago
Mary is a filthy whore, and if I could I would get a whole heap of fetuses, crucify her on a cross but this time backwards, and kick the fetuses up into her calloused dry-rot vagina while Cher sings "if I could turn back time". Anyone with me??
OrthodoxDarwinist 9 months ago
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fatimamovement 9 months ago
God bless you and welcome home to the one and true Catholic Church!
tallabas 9 months ago
“May our cries of pain always be accompanied by faith, by hope and by the witness of our love of God. I also express my hope, that there will be an end to hostility and prejudice against the catholic church”
-P. BENEDICT XVI
279cute 10 months ago
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michael1956able 10 months ago
Catholic are christians, please dont say that Catholics are not christian because is ignorance and just show your religion is anti-catholic and that is really bad.
anapaulacarlson 11 months ago
@anapaulacarlson
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TheCatholicCommunity 11 months ago
The Catholic Church comes before the Bible. If you protestant can read the Bible today say thanks to the Catholic Church.
And your convertion is extremely connected with the wat yiu treat the onces that are differents than you.
I am a catholic, already have been a protestant but the day you stop to study...is impssible to continue protestant, because of studying I became catholic back.
God bless you all
Viva Jesus Christ
Viva Pedro
Viva the Roman Catholic Church
Viva Bendict XVI
anapaulacarlson 11 months ago
@anapaulacarlson Nah, I rather be Christian instead of Catholic. I'll pass.
JesusforLife2 11 months ago
@JesusforLife2
Catholic means UNIVERSAL, so we are Catholic Christians, as in, UNIVERSAL CHRISTIANS, because are Christians who follow ONE FAITH, for we are ONE, HOLY, CATHOLIC, and APOSTOLIC.
We are the ONLY Christian Church that existed in the tenth century, fifth century and first century
Acts11:26
and when he had found him, he brought him to Antioch. And for an entire year they met with the church and taught considerable numbers; and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch.
TheCatholicCommunity 11 months ago
@JesusforLife2
You would rather be a Christian instead of Catholic? That does not make any sense.
Catholics are Christians. What you meant was that you would rather be a Protestant Christian instead of a Catholic Christian.
The term Catholic was first used round the turn of the first century AD. It was used to describe the unity of the local congregations. It quickly was used to describe the true Church from the heretical.
This all took place within 100 yrs after Christ.
baldonebear 9 months ago
@JesusforLife2
You do realize that all Christians are bible believing and obeying, right? The difference is what/whose teachings do they believe?
In your view, how does one become born again, and can you back up that view from the first 2 centuries AD?
baldonebear 9 months ago
I have just started the process of converting to Catholicism.
redsoxfan426 1 year ago 2
Thank you for sharing your story. I liked the part about your experience with the rosary. I had a similar experience too. One night during my family reunion trip I got a high fever and my throat was hurting so bad that it felt like a knife was piercing it. That night I wraped my throat around the blanket and prayed the Hail Mary prayer over and over until I fell asleep. I woke up the next morning to find that my throat was better and my fever was gone. May GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY!
elementaldragon244 1 year ago
These set of videos must be the most tragic I have ever seen. You use the language of truth and you were raised in truth, but have turned to the lies of a church that has turned away from the truth of Scripture. Your fellow RCs will have the excuse that they did not know any better but you will not have that excuse. May God in his mercy, love and Grace remove the scales from your eyes and bring you back to the truth you were brought up with. God Bless.
eemo1873 1 year ago
@eemo1873 If you don't mind my asking, what do you believe the Church teaches that is contrary to Scripture?
TheCatholicWolf 1 year ago
The sorcery of isis with her "panic beads" has bewitched you. Was it really that easy for them to get you to observe heathen traditions such as lent, rosary beads and icon/image devotion? Sounds like they first sparked your interest with their pomp and pagentry, some people are just naturally inclinded towards that stuff while others of the mind of Christ reject it.
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
Your story is fascinating.. What made you decide to join catholic.??
Skyethur 1 year ago